Jaron Seth Bloshinsky / Jazz Jennings / I Am Jazz - Puberty Blockers: Not Even Once

Suck it, Bowers. I hope your amhole throbs every day for what you did to that poor boy.

Mengele Bowers would probably enjoy that.

Springboarding off the topic of Jaron's sex life (or lack thereof): I've never known a single MtF who wasn't very loudly into BDSM or who didn't wheedle and coerce his partner (male or female) into dominating him. Extreme sexual submissiveness seems to feed into their need to reinforce their delusion of being weak and easily overpowered like any regular smol gurly-wurl uwu.

I don't necessarily get that vibe from Jaron which makes me wonder if he's just more discrete than your average troon; or, alternately, if he's still young enough to retain a measure of bashfulness around the minute details of the actual act of sex — a quality that seems to dissipate entirely in older troons who often go out of their way to exhibitionistically violate others' personal boundaries surrounding the topic); or if it's just more evidence of how this fantasy of being a member of the weaker sex in our dimorphous species was never something that was authentically Jaron's in the first place.

Of course, I understand that it could also just be a function of individual variation and he might not have any interest in those common troon power dynamics at all; "common" isn't a synonym for "universal," I know. But even then, I'd observe that it's hard to read what Jaron's authentic sexual preferences and peccadilloes even could be beyond a flat, obligatory avowal of being "pansexual" and hoping that his mutilated penis has enough depth for penetration. (Why Jaron? What would make penetration authentically desirable to someone who has never experienced it?)

That it's hard to read Jaron for any authentic sexual appetite is not necessarily a bad thing — a kid who's had the most graphic and intimate parts of his parent's abuse and neglect play out on camera should be encouraged to nurture a sense of privacy and discretion surrounding the details of something as intimate as his personal sex life. But, again, the lack of authentic sexual expression or even playfulness coming from a kid who flaunts everything else on camera could suggest how thoroughly that aspect of his humanity has been destroyed.

If you sterilized and obliterated the human capacity for sexual pleasure from any other group of people it would conceivably be considered a human rights violation (e.g. FGM) or an act of genocide (e.g., Article 2.d. of the CPPCG). But apparently if you do this to healthy young men, grooming them for this eventuality while they're still young boys, it's perfectly fine in our societies. A cool trend even! Stunning and brave! Crazy sexy cool! Er, crazy sexless cool!

Idpol (whether feminist or meninist) is the most retarded of political lenses, so I'm not going to sperg about what this means for young men in our societies but it does make one wonder who out there is going to protect the next two year old Jarons of the world when those boys' dumb bitch parents decide it's more convenient, exciting and meaningful that they be girls even if that means they don't ever get to experience important, natural, profoundly impactful facets of human life like basic sexual pleasure or parenthood.
 
I still doubt Jazz had sex, but if he did, could that have been what triggered his monstrous weight gain and depression? Yes, I know he was like this before, but those problems could have been amplified by a terrible sexual experience that made him realise that his "vagina" will never work. He was already binge eating during the show, but he didn't get this big.

There was some TERF quote that went something like “nobody really thinks a man can become a women, but a depressingly large amount of people think that a man should get what he wants” and that just sums up troonery for me. Everything else just flows from that.
Nah, if that was the case, not only FtMs wouldn't exist, but JKR wouldn't be as hated. She only raised her voice of concern after so many girls started getting butchered, precisely because she's a feminist.

I have seen terfs saying this too, and I've even mentioned here before that they call it male privilege and sometimes, it does feel like this, but objectively speaking, I think it's rather liberal privilege.
 
I think Jazz' "sex, but not really sex" comments could be a few things:

1. Amir or whoever got one thrust in (anus? amhole?) and Jazz did not like it so they stopped. I heard many a story like this as a teen, but with real women.

2. Had sex using amhole, but did not feel anything. If you've ever heard an FGM victim describe sex, it's kind of like that; just... zero arousal. Not a sexual feeling, just uncomfortable and awkward, if not painful.

3. Incest with Sander. This is not my take, but Exulansic put it forward as a theory last night on a livestream and it would not surprise me. It's of note that when Jazz said she "just wasn't ready", Sander responded with, "...then why did you consent?" It could be read as him being involved, or him just trying to ham-fist woke lingo into the conversation. Either way, that's a weird ass comment to make to someone opening up about an unpleasant sexual experience.
Another scenario could be that Amir or whoever made a play for the frankenvag but ran screaming away in disgust once he got close enough to realize just how gross and nonvaginalike it is.

Did Amir know Jazz before the surgery? Maybe Amir tried to play with Jazz's micropeen but it wouldn't function due to the chemical castration.
 
Is that true? In Sex Change Hospital he always made it sound as though he was speaking from personal experience when he spoke with his experiments patients.
oh look, my mistake: he had surgery later in life, after whole ass marriage with kids; I was mistaken, for I certainly remembered his unfulfilled wish to have peenus yeetus in his teen.

Well, then let it throbe, let it throbe, let it throbe 🧑‍🎄
 
I’m thinking Amir tried to dip the tip for a second or something. I actually don’t think Jazz is lying, but I surprised to hear this tidbit come out. Not as surprised as hearing his brother ask if there was penetration. Like the fuck? I think it’s even a lot weirder in the context that he’s supposed to see Jazz as a sister. But anyone suggesting Sander and Jazz have an incestuous relationship is retarded and should touch grass.

Speaking of Sander, I think people have already covered how rapey this situation is, but just fucking LOL at this whole shit show. Even when Sander has his solo interview, all he can say is “Gee whiz Hope sure is a big girl” and call her “glowing” and shit like that but never once has he used an adjective that would suggest he’s attracted to her — the whole girldick thing aside.

I really hate this faux-spiritual language troons use to describe falling in love with “the person” as if it’s purer than all those carnal, lusting, cis people. Literally not a group of people on earth more obsessed with genitals and sex yet they have the gall to start policing other people’s “preferences”.

Also, as someone mentioned, it’s so condescending how they treat Peppermint. She’s so fun and trans and black! I’m sure he loves the attention far too much to care how patronizing it is.

That said, I’m glad this is on tv. Unless you’re completely steeped in the Koolaid there’s no fucking way you watch this shit and be like fuck yeah hulking black transwomen are women!
 
I really hate this faux-spiritual language troons use to describe falling in love with “the person” as if it’s purer than all those carnal, lusting, cis people. Literally not a group of people on earth more obsessed with genitals and sex yet they have the gall to start policing other people’s “preferences”.
I really love the crude language that Reggae and Dancehall artists use to describe those same dutty relationships.

Sizzla: Nah Apologize
Rastaman don't apologize to no batty-bwoy// The girls dem sexy, and dem pussy fat// Yeah, all the girls the boys dem looking at// Some bwoy bow down...bow down doing what?//Nothing in the world could ever have me doing that// Ah don't care if they ban me// Damn, me say fi bu'n battyman, yuh cyah wrong me// Yow, me nah born over England, a real African this// Real real real Rastaman this! boom!

Shabba Ranks: Mama Man
it’s not right, it is wrong, a man a push his penis in a shit tank// gunshot is the solution// the one them that carry AIDS in our island, no homosexual my friend// if man from Jamaica would legalize gun, to kill battyman would be the greatest one, bow, bow, and them get shot down,

Capleton: Buggering
Buggering// We nuh inna di almshouse// Because we love fi see di gal dem wi di sexy riddim
Buggering// Nah support di system// When a man a bugger man clean yuh gun pon him (clean yuh gun = mag dump, not clean it)// Buggering// We nuh inna di almshouse ting// An when yuh, matic a yard mi say night offering// Buggering// Nah support di system// Cah we know say buggerism it not here

Patois is a beautiful language.
 
I really hate this faux-spiritual language troons use to describe falling in love with “the person” as if it’s purer than all those carnal, lusting, cis people. Literally not a group of people on earth more obsessed with genitals and sex yet they have the gall to start policing other people’s “preferences”.
"we're having an emotional connection, not a sexual one."

COPE.
 
"we're having an emotional connection, not a sexual one."

COPE.
Yeah, cause they can't have no sexual relationships. Jazz doesn't really know what sex is. Female puberty is way more than just estrogen. There's a lot of stuff that happens in the pituitary gland, hypothalamus, and thyroid glands that goes on. Look at Shauna Rae on TLC's new show.
1640365197010.png

Her ovaries are fine, but her pituitary gland got destroyed by radiation. Similar to Andy Milonakis. He has growth hormone insufficiency. Nothing to do with testosterone or estrogen. You can sort of sense that Shauna Rae is an adult because of the way she talks, looks, dresses, her facial expressions, etc. She isn't like one of those abused 12 year olds doing drag. People act different ways at different stages in their lives.

It creeps me out because hearing Jazz talk about sex stuff, I can tell that his voice is that of a 10 year old boy, not a 20-something woman that he pretends to be. And he isn't just stuck at age 10 because of the puberty blockers; it's because he's so messed up that he hasn't really had much good mental development since then. Traumatized people continue to act like children. You see that in many lolcows, like Chris Chan and Eugenia Cooney.

The internet and TV have screwed with many people's abilities to sense subtle things about each other.
 
I still doubt Jazz had sex, but if he did, could that have been what triggered his monstrous weight gain and depression? Yes, I know he was like this before, but those problems could have been amplified by a terrible sexual experience that made him realise that his "vagina" will never work. He was already binge eating during the show, but he didn't get this big.
I don't think Jazz is lying about having had some kind of sexual experience. What seems likely is that it was extremely underwhelming, awkward or outright painful and that it shattered his preconceptions about sex being this magical and fulfilling experience. If it was Amir, he probably noped right the fuck out after the trauma of amhole exposure, and Jazz was left with the realization that all the surgeries were for nothing.

I could see a few scenarios in which the experience itself, the fallout from the experience, or Jazz reflecting on what happened lead to him becoming wildly depressed and binge eating to cope.
 
I kind of wonder if Bowers has weighed in about Jaron's weight gain directly with the family. I remember that in Sex Change Hospital Bowers took an FtM to task for her obesity because, naturally, obesity makes it more difficult for the body to heal and also made it difficult to clean her genitals. Bowers made a show of complaining about the build up of "dick" cheese in that patient's genitals because she was too fat to clean herself properly. 🤢 Bowers also insisted on patients eating a strict vegan diet while they were in-patient and was pretty snotty and overbearing about it. I think that was more about the conceit that a vegan diet was hulthiest for the patience rather than about weight but you could kind of tell Bowers wasn't pleased to have any fatties in his care.
 
I mean if Jazz was going to lie about having sex wouldn’t he at least pretend it was good?

Which reminds me that during Sander’s date with Hope he reveals he’s had one night stands. Not really surprising, but for those wondering if he was a virgin or had managed to repel every woman he’s ever met…

Comically, Hope, bolt-ons hanging well out of her hooker top, responds how she totally feels the same way.

I think Sander definitely prefers women, but even if the Hope thing is completely staged, it’s still weird. Assuming he wasn’t lying, he admits to having kissed a transwoman without telling anyone. Like there’s no clout chasing in secretly kissing trannies. And Jeannette suggests he’s been on “vacations” plural with Peppermint. The show shows us a single pic of them skiing. I only get his social media updates from you guys so I have no idea if he’s been milking the Peppermint friendship before this. So I’m curious if he has a streak of chaser in him. Not meaning he wants to get fucked by BBC. But that he’d go to poundtown on a non-hulking, better passing tranny.

Speaking of Peppermint, literally what is the difference between him and any other drag queen? His performance doesn’t even come across like a sassy black woman, just any other black queeny gay guy.
 
Speaking of Peppermint, literally what is the difference between him and any other drag queen? His performance doesn’t even come across like a sassy black woman, just any other black queeny gay guy.
Found the t*rf.

The question of "What is the exact technical difference between a transwoman and a man?" is a hole I've never seen a troon climb out of.
 
I really love the crude language that Reggae and Dancehall artists use to describe those same dutty relationships.

Sizzla: Nah Apologize
Rastaman don't apologize to no batty-bwoy// The girls dem sexy, and dem pussy fat// Yeah, all the girls the boys dem looking at// Some bwoy bow down...bow down doing what?//Nothing in the world could ever have me doing that// Ah don't care if they ban me// Damn, me say fi bu'n battyman, yuh cyah wrong me// Yow, me nah born over England, a real African this// Real real real Rastaman this! boom!

Shabba Ranks: Mama Man
it’s not right, it is wrong, a man a push his penis in a shit tank// gunshot is the solution// the one them that carry AIDS in our island, no homosexual my friend// if man from Jamaica would legalize gun, to kill battyman would be the greatest one, bow, bow, and them get shot down,

Capleton: Buggering
Buggering// We nuh inna di almshouse// Because we love fi see di gal dem wi di sexy riddim
Buggering// Nah support di system// When a man a bugger man clean yuh gun pon him (clean yuh gun = mag dump, not clean it)// Buggering// We nuh inna di almshouse ting// An when yuh, matic a yard mi say night offering// Buggering// Nah support di system// Cah we know say buggerism it not here

Patois is a beautiful language.
tf is this ooga booga shit
 
I think Jazz' "sex, but not really sex" comments could be a few things:

1. Amir or whoever got one thrust in (anus? amhole?) and Jazz did not like it so they stopped. I heard many a story like this as a teen, but with real women.

2. Had sex using amhole, but did not feel anything. If you've ever heard an FGM victim describe sex, it's kind of like that; just... zero arousal. Not a sexual feeling, just uncomfortable and awkward, if not painful.

3. Incest with Sander. This is not my take, but Exulansic put it forward as a theory last night on a livestream and it would not surprise me. It's of note that when Jazz said she "just wasn't ready", Sander responded with, "...then why did you consent?" It could be read as him being involved, or him just trying to ham-fist woke lingo into the conversation. Either way, that's a weird ass comment to make to someone opening up about an unpleasant sexual experience.

Does forced dilation count?

I kind of wonder if Bowers has weighed in about Jaron's weight gain directly with the family. I remember that in Sex Change Hospital Bowers took an FtM to task for her obesity because, naturally, obesity makes it more difficult for the body to heal and also made it difficult to clean her genitals. Bowers made a show of complaining about the build up of "dick" cheese in that patient's genitals because she was too fat to clean herself properly. 🤢 Bowers also insisted on patients eating a strict vegan diet while they were in-patient and was pretty snotty and overbearing about it. I think that was more about the conceit that a vegan diet was hulthiest for the patience rather than about weight but you could kind of tell Bowers wasn't pleased to have any fatties in his care.

Dumbass bowers should know proteins are supposed to help speed up recovery time. And bowers is a die-hard vegan..
 
Back