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To the editor: I am grateful for homeless outreach volunteer Daniel Polansky's story about trying get services for his unhoused friend.

I have a similar experience to share. I am a street chaplain for homeless neighbors in northeast Los Angeles. I visit many neighbors, but of course I have favorites too. One of my favorite neighbors has been sick for weeks and in and out of the hospital.

I tried to get her a hotel room for the week of Christmas, paying out of my organization's funds, but could not pay for a room to get her off the street myself, as she has no ID. She has lived in Los Angeles since the early 1990s and birthed three U.S. citizens, but she needs help to even start immigration paperwork after all these years.

I have been doing my best to stay in my lane as a chaplain and assist our neighbors and our beloved and overworked case workers and authorities. But it sure is hard for a private citizen to use our great system to personally help the poor.

Dave Saltzman, Los Angeles

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To the editor: Everyone wants to know why there are so many homeless people in Los Angeles. People don't choose to be homeless, but we are treated like bums. And getting help is not as easy.

I became homeless because the system failed. Homeowners and property owners want tenants to pay their rent and abide by their rules. But they don't follow Section 8 protocol, or the minute you do something they don't like, you're on the street.

I am a licensed security guard. I work and pay my bills.

Shannon Franklin, Norwalk
 
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TurdFondler said:
I have no stats, but I feel that the people that end up homeless by circumstance don't stay homeless forever. The chronically homeless which I think are the most visible seem to have compounding issues.
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You mean like White males need not apply?
 
NJBear said:
Only migrants imported get housing, food, medical care and cash. White Americans can get fucked. And most homeless are NOT drug addicts or insane.
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Most homeless might not be druggies or loonies, but you'd be hard-pressed to convince me the ones on the street aren't either one of the above, or workshy grifters. Even then, I'd imagine a lot of the workshies still down enough non-hard drugs to be as capable of functioning as the typical addict.
 
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I don't even know if it's a matter of race. Obviously gibs go to the culturally enriched but if you've still got your faculties, a will to live and no monkey on your back, there's a decent chance you'll end up off the streets. Chronically poor, yeah, but not living in a tent.

Granted it could be worse in the US of A because you guys have like literal moleperson cities in rainsewers and other crazy shit
 
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The homeless problem is due mostly to drug addicts and shitty government services. I watched a documentary about a drunk who cost the taxpayers a half-million dollars by constantly getting thrown in the drunk tank and then released to the streets. Eventually, his booze-soaked body shut down and he died. They did everything they could to get this man help, but he walked out of every treatment program they had. Even when he was obviously brain damaged, they still couldn't force him to do what was in his best interests.

Some people are just incorrigible drug users, and the best thing we could do for that would be to admit that some people can't be fixed. Then we'd either let them starve to death on the streets or put them in a Wet House where they could drink themselves to death in relative safety and at a cheaper cost to taxpayers. But a lot of people either day "I'm not giving free booze to drunks!" or "We're giving up and letting these people die!" But when San Francisco is spending 13.5 million a year to take care of 225 chronic alcoholics, you start to realize that this level of spending is unsustainable. Sooner or later, all of the productive people will leave an area and they'll be no money for anyone, drunk or sober.
 
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NJBear said:
Only migrants imported get housing, food, medical care and cash. White Americans can get fucked. And most homeless are NOT drug addicts or insane.
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That hasn't been my experience. There are basically five kinds of homeless people:
1) Mentally ill
2) Drug addicts
3) People who deliberately choose to be homeless and live outside the system
4) Grifters and probably not actually homeless
5) People who temporarily hit hard times but can get themselves out of it (a minority because these people actually have the work ethic and drive to get off the street)

I have seen the first two in action and it is horrifying. I watched a guy high on god knows what literally punching a brick wall, screaming at it. I have seen a homeless woman just screaming on the phone to probably no one at the top of their lungs all kinds of fucked up conspiracy theories local to her life. I don't think she was on drugs, I think she was just literally that insane.

The third group need to be put in the wilderness if they really want to live free of The Man.

Other two groups, people just need to stop giving money to these fags and the fifth group I am fine giving help to get them back on their feet. Same with the first group, though that would be institutionalizing them.
 
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The homeless should be shot, ground into fertilizer, and sprinkled over the crops that productive people eat.

At least then she'd be contributing, instead of being an illegal spic that doesn't belong here in the first place. These people should stay in their shitholes, where they belong.
 
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TurdFondler said:
I have no stats, but I feel that the people that end up homeless by circumstance don't stay homeless forever. The chronically homeless which I think are the most visible seem to have compounding issues.
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Yeah, they shouldn't even be counted in the numbers. If you are staying on a friend's couch for a week or even in a shelter you are not "homeless" or certainly not "unhoused," you literally have shelter. The hard core of people who sleep on the streets are the ones who:
*have alienated every friend and relative with their behavior (severe mental illness and/or drug use, always)
*have been kicked out of every shelter and social program for violent behavior, repeated refusal to abide by substance-free policies, or trying to steal the copper out of the walls
*cannot even handle the kind of cash day labor that migrants do

I used to live above an apartment where nine illegal Salvadorans split $700/mo to basically hot-bunk in three rooms in between looking for work in the Home Depot parking lot. I will accept that we can do more socially to make sure people can live in better circumstances than that, but it shows that meeting the minimum of "not being on the street" requires almost nothing - 1 or 2 days of work per month will cover that kind of situation.

When you filter out people who are doing what a rational person will do if they find themselves evicted and penniless (living in a shelter or with an acquaintance while looking for work) and get down to the actual "do not have a home" homeless, you find that economics has 0 to do with it. In the places that claim to "solve homelessness" by offering housing to everybody, they require people to get treatment for the drugs and the mental issues - you can't do "housing first" if there's one person in the apartment block shrieking at the demons all night or shitting in everyone else's door locks because Zalgo told them it keeps the tigers away.
 
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DamnWolves! said:
The homeless should be shot, ground into fertilizer, and sprinkled over the crops that productive people eat.

At least then she'd be contributing, instead of being an illegal spic that doesn't belong here in the first place. These people should stay in their shitholes, where they belong.
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Well yeah, especially if her kids do not care enough to support her, she definitely needs to go back wherever she came from.

Also time to amend the constitution to get rid of jus soli. It had its place and time cuz muh slavery. Now that is over and time to go to jus sanguinis like most other countries in the world. Even the US sort of has it, so why not extend it? When I went to register my daughter as a US citizen, I learned then that I could not pass US citizenship without meeting these conditions:

A person born abroad in wedlock to a U.S. citizen and an alien acquires U.S. citizenship at birth if the U.S. citizen parent has been physically present in the United States or one of its outlying possessions prior to the person’s birth for the period required by the statute in effect when the person was born (INA 301(g), formerly INA 301(a)(7)).

For birth on or after November 14, 1986, the U.S. citizen parent must have been physically present in the United States or one of its outlying possessions for five years prior to the person’s birth, at least two of which were after the age of 14.
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So if I had spent no time in the US after the age of 14, she would not have had US citizenship.
 
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Deinstitutionalisation in the US has done an absurd amount of harm to both the lunatics freed, and the public at large. They may not have been fantastic places, but for many of the worse cases its still a far cry better than how they live now.
 
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It's always a parade of scumbags in a homeless thread that push the notion that all homeless are drug addicts or lazy.

Every. Fucking. Time.

Totally disregarding all the other threads of Whites forced out of their jobs, denied employment, college admission and now health care.

Bet most are (((White))).
 
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