Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread - Got too big

[Shaka Brah]

Why hire a person at all? Just have a stack of tablets locked to WebMD and vending machines for the appropriate pharmaceuticals.

Hospitals want this. IBM Watson/machine learning is being touted as a way to fire doctors and replace them with nurse-practitioners for cost savings.

 

[borsabil]

Seperate UK study effectively confirming what the Denmark study showed: if ya got the clot shot then ya done goofed.
Chance to catch Omicron Persei 8 strain is more than doubled among the Jabberwokies.


Oopsie~

It's worse than it looks.

Double jabbed are almost 3 times more likely to catch Omicron than the unvaccinated.

Even with Delta Covid the 'protection' from transmission is negligible and can be explained by behaviour differences in heavily vaccinated older demographics who, if experience is a guide, are far less likely to engage in higher risk activities. At this point the majority of purebloods are children who go to school every day and mix closely with each other in large groups. If the vaccines were doing anything to protect against Omicron we should be seeing much much higher transmission rates in the unvaxxed.

The vaccines don't do shit against Delta Covid and they enhance infection with Omicron. TLDR Omicron Covid is actually pretty hard to catch if you haven't been vaxxed, probably because existing cross immunity from endemic Coronaviruses offers good protection against it. Omicron has many of the same genomic markers as circulating cold viruses. The vaccinated have lost that protection and are being hammered by it. Fortunately it's just a cold and no one is dying but imagine if it had the same virulence as Delta? What a shit show that would have been.

 

[Evilronald]

The 'ruling class' likes Democracy because the succession between despots often tended to be periods of intense stress; often devolving into civil war between two factions. The peaceful transfer of power, even to someone disliked is better for retaining wealth over generations. The reason there is a freak out over Jan 6th is because this is the first time the population has actively called out a bullshit election and rioted over it, there has been bullshit elections before: 1824 was stolen from Andrew Jackson, 1876 was highly disputed to the point that its the reason Reconstruction ended and is regarded by historians as being stolen because it was so obvious. Then in the modern era we can look to the 1960 Election with Kennedy being the origin of the dead people voting meme. But 2020 is the first time a mob formed and crashed D.C. for part of a day.

The cabal want to mate the peaceful transfer of power that Democracy provides but rule as an oligarchic elite without interference from the outside. They don't know how to do this and Jan 6th was a warning sign to them that this has to be done more delicately in the future otherwise the rifles will come out and cause the destruction of the entire system.

I think Jan 6th could have been a big deal if the FBI hadn’t put a bunch of provocateurs in the crowd and tricked a bunch of people into walking into the Capitol. Seems pretty obvious they had planned it to be a much bigger thing, but unfortunately for the Feds only a bunch of larpers died in the incident. What’s resulted is that the ruling class has continued with their plan but normal people are seeing just how ridiculous they look claiming it was the worst attack on this country since 9/11, like a bunch of boomers strolling through the Capitol is the equivalent to killing thousands of people in the twin towers and at the pentagon.

I always did wonder why, if the official story is true, the hijackers attacked the Pentagon and not Congress. It would be far more terrifying to people if their elected representatives were attacked by terrorists, not military members who on some level recognize that their job involves the potential for death or injury.

 

[Obie]

 

[Butcher Pete]

There’s currently 446 cases of the ‘ronies in Tokyo. On the news just now, the government announced free PCR testing nationwide, and they FINALLY SAID THE UNMENTIONABLE OUT LOUD—that the coronavirus appears to be no more dangerous than the flu. You better believe I’m going to link that article once it comes out.

People are not getting tested (5000 a day in a city of 14 million) and no one is dying. The vaccination place near where I work is empty. The tv presentation got complex, but Mrs. Pete says the purpose of the free PCR tests are to get numbers on who is actually infected to “prove’ that it is just the flu.

I’m gonna back all this shit up with articles as soon as I can get them. I can confirm the free testing personally, because I can understand those words and read those moon runes. The numbers are easily confirmable. The only thing I cannot personally confirm at this time is the reasoning for the free tests, but Mrs. Pete is an interpreter and this is her thing.

 

[Overly Serious]

Seperate UK study effectively confirming what the Denmark study showed: if ya got the clot shot then ya done goofed.
Chance to catch Omicron Persei 8 strain is more than doubled among the Jabberwokies.


Oopsie~

The data appears to be based on comparing detected cases against overall vaccination rates. Is it not plausible that those who have declined vaccination are also more likely to not bother getting tested?

 

[Dude Snakes]

The data appears to be based on comparing detected cases against overall vaccination rates. Is it not plausible that those who have declined vaccination are also more likely to not bother getting tested?

Not done either, both are harmful and doing either helps keep the plandemic going.

 

[Overly Serious]

Not done either, both are harmful and doing either helps keep the plandemic going.

Which is my point. The more people like you (and I agree with you, btw), the more it's going to lead to stats suggesting unvaccinated people are contracting Covid at a lower rate than vaccinated people. I didn't see anything in the article that would account for that.

 

[borsabil]

The data appears to be based on comparing detected cases against overall vaccination rates. Is it not plausible that those who have declined vaccination are also more likely to not bother getting tested?

Most testing is now being done routinely for travel and work. Unvaxxed in many places are far more likely to be tested because they're unvaccinated and need a negative result to attend an event or to enter a business. So to answer your question no, the opposite.

Anyway the narrative it a changing, and fast.

Israel May Give 4th Dose of Covid Shot, Despite Experts' Doubts - The…

archived 25 Dec 2021 21:00:49 UTC

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But some scientists warned that the plan could backfire, because too many shots might cause a sort of immune system fatigue, compromising the body’s ability to fight the coronavirus. A few members of the government’s advisory panel raised that concern with respect to the elderly, according to a written summary of the discussion obtained by The New York Times.

A 'sort of immune system fatigue' is original antigenic sin, a conspiracy theory that's been discussed widely in this thread. So there you have it, the New York Times is now reporting on it, soon it will be accepted and mainstream.

There's now a torrent of stories regarding the vaxxed throwing positive PCR tests at far higher rates than purebloods, this is something that will be impossible to cover up.

Here's an interesting article from another NYT journalist

Here in New York, the Omicron Variant Is Getting Weird

The infected have the “wrong” symptoms. Many are sick and yet test negative. Whether it’s mild is still unproven. Sequences posted by NYU…

donaldgmcneiljr1954.medium.com

It was written a couple of weeks ago

So why do their tests come up negative? One possible explanation is this:

Omicron replicates so fast that its incubation period — the time from exposure to symptoms — may be as little as three days instead of six, as Katherine Wu notes in the Atlantic. You get sick fast.

This is now confirmed. The incubation period for Omicron Covid is 24-48 hours, the virus will usually be done with you in 3 days. You may have some symptoms for longer but you won't be infectious.

We can’t be sure about Omicron until its impact is gauged on a large pool of unvaccinated older people — the group most likely to suffer and die. That’s not a typical New York cohort. But it is in some red states.

This is nonsense. So few have actually died from it that it's genuinely hard to gauge if the vaccines offer any protection from severe illness but we do know they offer no protection from symptomatic disease.

If that’s the case, New York, as the country’s most crowded metropolis, should set the pace. If our cases drop to near zero in January (as India’s did after their intense Delta wave last spring), we will know that the pandemic is nearing an end because everyone is immunized either by the vaccine or the virus. It will take longer for the virus to mop up less-crowded places like South Dakota and Idaho, but eventually, it will find all of us.

This will probably turn out to be correct with the one big disclaimer that South Africa has very low rates of vaccination. The UK should have been well past it's Delta Wave outbreak months ago but it lingered on to a ridiculous degree with 30-40,000 cases a day, month after month. Why? Likely because of vaccine acquired OAS. If it's the same with Omicron Covid then no we won't put this behind us in a couple of weeks, unless we stop testing for it of course.

Weird Thing Four: In the last three days, an unusual mutation has cropped up more than 60 times in genetic sequences of the Omicron variant released by the NYU Langone genetics lab.

The mutation, known as P681R, inserts an “R” (for the amino acid arginine) at position 681 in the spike protein gene instead of a “P” (for proline). According to Henry L. Niman, an independent tracker of viral mutations, that change could enhance the virus’s “cleavage site” so it is better able to attack different kinds of human cells. (After attaching to a cell, the virus’s shell needs to “cleave” or split, so it can inject its RNA payload.) Being able to cleave to lung cells or heart cells instead of just to nose cells would make a virus more dangerous.)

There's always a chance that a virus will mutate into something more pathogenic. The solution to this is to build up actual real immunity in the population against the virus. The ONLY way to achieve this is to allow people to catch it and recover. Looking forward here's the ways we can prevent any future variants becoming a public health issue

1) Stop vaccinating. Stop it immediately. Do not pass Go, do not collect $200. Creating environmental challenges for the virus to overcome may make it more or less virulent, we're not smart enough to know for sure. So cut it out. The stupid things don't work to any degree so there's only downside if we keep injecting people with them.

2) Encourage people to go out and catch Covid. The more fit and healthy people get the sniffles the better. Protect the elderly and infirm but let everyone else catch it. This was true 2 years ago and it's just as true now.

3) To further number 2 stop fucking testing. If you have the sniffles take a day off work if you feel sick enough and don't visit your nana in the nursing home, otherwise get on with your life. Do the common sense things humanity has been doing for millennia when we notice a bug doing the rounds.

Biden has now washed his hands of the whole thing.

Biden now says ‘no federal solution’ to COVID crisis, would have given out tests ‘quicker’ if Omicron surge expected

President Biden said Monday that he’d have “gone harder, quicker” to distribute COVID-19 tests if he’d known the Omicron variant was going to cause record-high rates of new …

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“Look, there is no federal solution,” the president agreed when the time came for him to speak. “This gets solved at a state level … and it ultimately gets down to where the rubber meets the road and that’s where the patient is in need of help, or preventing the need for help.”

It seems like the stupid will be over soon.

 

[Smug Chuckler]

War on Poverty -> Lost
War on Drugs -> Lost
War on Terror -> Lost
War on Covid -> Lost

gee the government sucks at this

 

[Yuri_]

War on Poverty -> Lost
War on Drugs -> Lost
War on Terror -> Lost
War on Covid -> Lost

gee the government sucks at this

all of those involved the elite getting richer, so it was a victory

 

[Super-Chevy454]

It's highly unlikely that both pilot and co-pilot would get heart attacks on the same flight, although I'm pretty sure if either of them get a heart attack then they're required to divert the plane. I'm pretty sure a similar requirement applies to passengers as well if initial medical attention fails. That's the real danger, but that's just an annoyance.

Wouldn't be ironic to imagine the following possibility if and it's a big "if", Fraudci would have been on the same flight?

Btw, there's a good rant about omnicron.

Omicron upends the class politics of COVID

Until omicron came along, the official response to COVID served as an instrument of class warfare against blue-collar workers and small businesses, on behalf of the tech oligopolists and selected big businesses such as Target, which were deemed &quot...

www.americanthinker.com

December 28, 2021

Omicron upends the class politics of Covid​

By Thomas Lifson

Until Omicron came along, the official response to Covid served as an instrument of class warfare against blue collar workers and small businesses, on behalf of the tech oligopolists and selected big businesses such as Target, which were deemed “essential.” Not coincidentally, blue collar workers and small businesses are the core of the GOP base, while Silicon Valley and the plutocracy are the cash cows and power base of the Democrats.
But the Omicron Variant has – at least for now – turned that class dynamic on its head. Writing for the Brownstone Institute, Jeffrey A. Tucker explains:

The initial lockdowns had a strong class-based component. The working classes were assigned the job of delivering groceries, tending to the sick, driving the trucks filled with goods, keeping the lights on, and keeping the fuel running. The professional class, among whom were the people who pushed lockdowns in the name of disease avoidance/suppression, were assigned the job of staying home in their pajamas and staying safe.
It all happened seemingly in an instant. We all had to figure out whether our job qualified and what we should do. More striking at the time was the very notion that government bureaucrats could slice and dice the population this way, deciding what can open and what cannot, who must work and who must not, what we can and cannot do based on our station in life.
So it now seems obvious to me. This whole disaster would finally come to an end (or at least the end would begin) when it became obvious that the great strategy of class division and demarcation would fail to protect the Zoom class from infection.
That day has finally arrived, with cases soaring in many parts of the country and hitting everyone of every class, whether they are being “careful” and adhering to the “mitigation measures” or not. What’s even more striking is how even the vaccines, which were supposed to codify the wisdom of class segregation, have not protected against infection.

Tucker uses the expression “zoom class” to refer to those who can work from home with little or no trouble. Many people have found they prefer doing so on the laptops and are reluctant to go back to the office. For them, the response to COVID has been a boon.
The psychological identity of the Democrats’ ruling class, the educated professionals, rests on their presumed intellectual and moral superiority over the basket of deplorables. Bette Midler spoke for almost the entire Democrat elite when she slammed the West Virginia constituents of Joe Manchin as toothless illiterates. They cannot be good unless their opponents (including most readers of the site) are bad. And that badness includes vaccine hesitancy and Covid vulnerability.
Now, unfathomably:

“Thousands who ‘followed the rules’ are about to get covid. They shouldn’t be ashamed,” headlines the Washington Post.
Feeling ashamed about getting covid-19 isn’t healthy or helpful, experts agree…. Remember: You’re not a failure. “Millions of other people have gotten sick,” (Seema) Varma says. “Unfortunately, you’re not alone. You’re not the only one. You’re not the first one to get covid, and you won’t be the last.” And that positive test, she reiterates, “doesn’t make you an irresponsible person.”
So on the piece goes, with a complete flip of the narrative they have long preached: anyone who gets Covid has failed to comply, disregards of Fauci’s advice, probably lives in a Red state, rejects the science, and otherwise bears the mark of selfishness and the desire to put freedom ahead of public health.
Getting Covid has heretofore been part of a human stain, consistent with the very long history of demonization of the diseased and the attempt to attribute sickness to moral sin. This impulse dates back to the ancient world, revived with a ferocity in 2020.

Graphic credit: Andrea Widburg
The media capital, New York City, now is also the omicron capital:

On Dec. 26, 189,714 new cases of COVID-19 were reported. Of those, 54,828 came from New York City. This means that 28.9% of new cases reported for Dec. 26 came from the Big Apple.

Friends who live in the New York City area tell me that children coming home from college (a largely upper-middle-class pattern) are infecting everyone at home. It’s happening in “the best of families.”
Maybe that’s why the CDC has just cut the COVID isolation and quarantine period in half. “Our kind” – big Fauci fans – are being hurt.
If Jeffrey Tucker is correct, as I think he is, we may actually see the pandemic turn into endemic. Read the whole thing and see what you think.

 

[Livecorpse]

Pretty sure I picked up Omicron over Christmas. I had a headache, a scratchy throat, felt really run down, and the lymph node on the back of my neck was swollen and tender (which is the only reason I think it's Omicron and not just my sinuses). Three days later I feel fine. Fuck your clot shot, Fauci!

 

[jje100010001]

Interesting:

https://twitter.com/IanFelipeSays/status/1475592189468033026

https://sigallab.net/

 

[Focken Kiwi]

Interesting:

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https://twitter.com/IanFelipeSays/status/1475592189468033026

https://sigallab.net/

The best defense against COVID is to catch it, treat it, rest and recover and then let your immune system fight off further infections. I wonder if there is a term for that.

 

[Super-Chevy454]

The best defense against COVID is to catch it, treat it, rest and recover and then let your immune system fight off further infections. I wonder if there is a term for that.

The term in question is a blasphemy and sacrilege for Dr. Fraudci, Moderna and Pfizer.

 

[jje100010001]

Not sure if posted, but another interesting point:

https://twitter.com/tony_vandongen/status/1473899885472669697

https://www.biorxiv.org/content/biorxiv/early/2021/12/15/2021.12.14.472632.full.pdf

Is Omnicron...the real vaccine? Or is it just another pandemic-extender? If it's artificially made, who made it?

 

[Airbrushed Van Art]

It is really, really difficult to find an official death toll from OMNICORN. All the news sites are going all-caps with their headlines (“Omicron filling hospitals! Officials brace for immininent mass graves!!1!”). But nothing on death toll, which, from whichever hidden sources that I can find, are negligible compared with before…

 

[BLEACHED.COM]

Seperate UK study effectively confirming what the Denmark study showed: if ya got the clot shot then ya done goofed.
Chance to catch Omicron Persei 8 strain is more than doubled among the Jabberwokies.


Oopsie~

Is there a vaccinal passport system in the UK?

 

[Cycleye]

The best defense against COVID is to catch it, treat it, rest and recover and then let your immune system fight off further infections. I wonder if there is a term for that.

It is on the tip of my tongue.....errm.... natural something.... oh, i can't remember. Pass the remote and my bowl of bugs, I am not a Celebrity is about to start.

It is really, really difficult to find an official death toll from OMNICORN. All the news sites are going all-caps with their headlines (“Omicron filling hospitals! Officials brace for immininent mass graves!!1!”). But nothing on death toll, which, from whichever hidden sources that I can find, are negligible compared with before…

There have been some "with ohmycorn" but i dont think there have been any "from", or "of" and if those last two words have been used they have been in ambiguous, badly written, click-bait.