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FallOfGrumps said:
If we are being non-joking for a second. I honestly think that this is how we teach our history. It's like 90% "Here is why we are evil." I remember feeling really ashamed sitting next to my black class mates in middle school. It's an odd memory that my mind has held onto, and I am sure it affected a lot of people the same way. I don't think it's healthy to dwell on past wrongs. Therapists wouldn't advice it for an individual, so why do we do it as a collective?

Edit: I'm American for context, I don't know if other western nations have this.
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The ideal goal of both history and therapy is to learn from the events and mistakes of the past and apply that knowledge towards better choices and actions for the sake of the future. The difference is that you have a degree of personal and emotional separation from history, whereas you don't from the life events you would typically discuss with a therapist. It's not healthy to dwell much on your own past because of how intrinsically it ties into your own emotions and cognitive biases, that's just human nature.

With history, the facts of the past might horrify you, but you're approaching them from a more objective standpoint than you possibly can when thinking about your own life experience. Pretending that horrible historical facts didn't happen just to spare people some discomfort is both disingenuous and disrespectful to the people who had to suffer through far worse fates than feeling awkward in their eighth-grade history class.
 
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Ol Dirty Fatso said:
The ideal goal of both history and therapy is to learn from the events and mistakes of the past and apply that knowledge towards better choices and actions for the sake of the future. The difference is that you have a degree of personal and emotional separation from history, whereas you don't from the life events you would typically discuss with a therapist. It's not healthy to dwell much on your own past because of how intrinsically it ties into your own emotions and cognitive biases, that's just human nature.

With history, the facts of the past might horrify you, but you're approaching them from a more objective standpoint than you possibly can when thinking about your own life experience. Pretending that horrible historical facts didn't happen just to spare people some discomfort is both disingenuous and disrespectful to the people who had to suffer through far worse fates than feeling awkward in their eighth-grade history class.
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I think you are completely ignoring my criticism. Its being tied directly into the self worth of white people in our society, the facts aren't being viewed with a disconnect or objectively. It's being used directly to make people feel horrible about themselves. It's also often used to twist the arm of white people, convincing them that it's okay for people to be bigoted towards them since some white person in the past was mean. Therefore, according to the way it's being applied, current white people deserve to feel pain and suffering.

History isn't being used to better the future. It's a nice thought, but it's ultimately a lie. It's being used to propagate hate. It's made further complicated by the fact that human beings naturally AREN'T objective. Of course people are going to tie any perceived crimes of people that looked like them directly to themselves. Of course people are going to feel a tribal pull against those they view wronged their ancestors. We are setting ourselves up for tribalism and hate. The way history is taught makes the modern day no surprise at all.
 
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The Last Stand said:
Something I don't get: White people LOVE to hate on other White people. No matter the political spectrum, there's an internal distaste within American culture.
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I agree blacks have no say in US politics and are only used as game pieces to inflict harm upon other tribes of whites. The white devil even successfully invented an eugenics program to trick blacks into killing their young so that there wouldn't be so many of them.
 
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