Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread - Got too big

[AssignedEva]

I think it's just how stupid the left is on this matter. They want to look like good people, so won't buy into arguments that sacrificing a couple old people here and there is worth the government and its megacorporation friends not enriching themselves at the expense of literally everyone else and gaining all sorts of new ways to trample on the working class.

It doesn't seem quite as bad here, but I've definitely noticed this hysteria on social media - the idea that you must be taking precautions to minimise covid cases and if you don't, you literally have blood on your hands. And a refusal to engage with the cost of lockdowns and restrictions - a flat out denial that we've been destroying the economy and increasing poverty, and that could end up killing more people and younger people compared to if we just let what is now just a cold run riot.

I think you've really hit on something with "look like good people". I know it's gauche to do the Millenial "this is just like in Harry Potter when" thing, but I'm reminded of a line from the Broadway production of Into The Woods by Steven Sondheim, when essentially a group of people refuse to give up Jack (from Jack and The Beanstalk) to stop a rampaging giant killing them all;

"You're so nice. You're not good, you're not bad, you're just nice."

It's like a refusal to engage with ethics and a denial that our healthcare system chooses to let some people die all the time based on making the most of resources (i.e. a 95 year old won't get a heart transplant, would it really be so bad if they don't get covid treatment to preserve hospital capacity either?). People are clinging to simplified narratives, possibly because they're traumatised from lockdowns or possibly because they've never had to consider mortality before.

The one exception to this is the suggestion that we should refuse to treat unvaccinated people. Never mind that this wouldn't help avoid a hospital capacity crisis compared to deciding that fully vaccinated 95 year old granny shouldn't get treatment because a 45 year old anti-vaxxer is more likely to recover - that's somehow wrong because granny took the vaccine and therefore is a Goodie, and meanwhile the antivaxxer is a Baddie and should be punished. It's still like a child's morality narrative.

 

[borsabil]

It doesn't seem quite as bad here, but I've definitely noticed this hysteria on social media - the idea that you must be taking precautions to minimise covid cases and if you don't, you literally have blood on your hands. And a refusal to engage with the cost of lockdowns and restrictions - a flat out denial that we've been destroying the economy and increasing poverty, and that could end up killing more people and younger people compared to if we just let what is now just a cold run riot.

I think you've really hit on something with "look like good people". I know it's gauche to do the Millenial "this is just like in Harry Potter when" thing, but I'm reminded of a line from the Broadway production of Into The Woods by Steven Sondheim, when essentially a group of people refuse to give up Jack (from Jack and The Beanstalk) to stop a rampaging giant killing them all;

"You're so nice. You're not good, you're not bad, you're just nice."

It's like a refusal to engage with ethics and a denial that our healthcare system chooses to let some people die all the time based on making the most of resources (i.e. a 95 year old won't get a heart transplant, would it really be so bad if they don't get covid treatment to preserve hospital capacity either?). People are clinging to simplified narratives, possibly because they're traumatised from lockdowns or possibly because they've never had to consider mortality before.

The one exception to this is the suggestion that we should refuse to treat unvaccinated people. Never mind that this wouldn't help avoid a hospital capacity crisis compared to deciding that fully vaccinated 95 year old granny shouldn't get treatment because a 45 year old anti-vaxxer is more likely to recover - that's somehow wrong because granny took the vaccine and therefore is a Goodie, and meanwhile the antivaxxer is a Baddie and should be punished. It's still like a child's morality narrative.

Governments have the tiger by the tail. They’ve spent 2 years whipping up and then pandering to hysteria and fear for a virus that isn’t much more lethal than the seasonal flu. Now that it’s mutated into the common cold they know they should be done with it but a huge percentage, maybe the majority of their population believe that anything less than lockdowns and forced vaccination will expose them to severe illness and death.

In New South Wales hell even in Dan Andrews Victoria, it’s obvious they’ve decided that Omicron is mild enough to allow for the usual flu precautions to be adopted. Don’t go to work if you’re sick, testing for high risk settings only etc. But if you read the Guardian or watch the ABC you’d think that it was still 2020 and the entire country was going to collapse unless an immediate hard lockdown is called.

The latest sperg out is rapid antigen testing. Something that no one gave a fuck about last week is suddenly a national emergency because all the vaxxed maxed Covidians can’t get hold of them and the PCR testing sites are overwhelmed from demand partly because of stupid travel rules but mainly because hundreds of thousands of idiots are demanding tests because they have a runny nose and they’re convinced they’ve got Covid and so risking death.

 

[Sexual Chocolate]

Covid has exposed who is a decent person and who isn't..

I don't watch TV because I hate the Antichrist, but the annual SyFy Twilight Zone marathon is coming up.

One of Rod Serling's all-time classics is The Monsters Are Due On Maple Street, where a power cut causes a middle class suburb to quickly descend into Salem-style paranoid hysteria where they violently turn on their neighbors out of fear. It turns out at the end that this was exactly what the beings who caused the power cut wanted.

The tools of conquest do not necessarily come with bombs and explosions and fallout. There are weapons that are simply thoughts, attitudes, prejudices...to be found only in the minds of men. For the record, prejudices can kill...and suspicion can destroy...and a thoughtless, frightened search for a scapegoat has a fallout all of its own—for the children and the children yet unborn. And the pity of it is that these things cannot be confined to the Twilight Zone.

Will anything be learned from this? No.

 

[fhqwhgads]

granny took the vaccine and therefore is a Goodie, and meanwhile the antivaxxer is a Baddie and should be punished. It's still like a child's morality narrative.

I asked a Branch Covidian friend what they thought about those teenagers in Australia who escaped from the quarantine camp, only to get picked up, taken back, and fined $5000; they'd tested negative for corona, so what was the point in sending them back to the quarantine camp? If they don't have the virus, they're not a danger to anyone, and so why can't they go home?

He said it was the right thing to send them back to the camp, and I quote, 'because it's the rules'. It struck me how his sense of morality was stuck at a child's understanding. I apparently forgot my psychology lessons, as few people (10-15%) reach the stage of moral development that allows you to go beyond 'following rules good, breaking rules bad', as per Kohlberg.

I think at least in his case, it's less of a lack of moral development and more a case of 'I can't comprehend the government being this evil, so I must rationalise this away as a good action'. I don't know. Maybe Kohlberg was right.

E: more explanation of the stages here - do 3&4 remind you of anything?

 

[The Nothingness]

I don't watch TV because I hate the Antichrist, but the annual SyFy Twilight Zone marathon is coming up.

One of Rod Serling's all-time classics is The Monsters Are Due On Maple Street, where a power cut causes a middle class suburb to quickly descend into Salem-style paranoid hysteria where they violently turn on their neighbors out of fear. It turns out at the end that this was exactly what the beings who caused the power cut wanted.



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Will anything be learned from this? No.

Another classic is "The Shelter" where a supposed threat of incoming nuclear weapons causes close neighbors to tear each other apart over a bomb shelter.

 

[Sincere Sinner]

I an genuinely curious about leftist takes on Covid because in theory I dont see why there cant be bipartisan opposition.

Are leftists really okay with the establishment of a medical apartheid? Especially if that medical apartheid happens to be disproportionally non-white? (It is, whites are too compliant).

Are leftists really okay with the accelerator on wealth disparity being firmly depressed since the pandemic began? Jeff Bezos is doing mighty well for himself lately. If I were particularly cynical, I might even think the ongoing lockdowns and measures were cooked up for plutocrat benefit to choke out competition.

Are leftists really okay with the countless dollars funneled into big pharma that have failed to deliver substantive neutralizing immunity? Whatever your feelings on socialized healthcare, I want a fuck of a lot more for our money than the garbage Pfizer, Moderna and what have you have offered so far. Id take increased healthcare capacity or even just better fucking pay for our healthcare workers over that any day.

Are leftists really so naive as to believe that the massive amounts of data being collected and aggregated under the auspices of contact tracing and vaccination tracking wont be abused by the "fascists" (as they define them at least) of tomorrow?

I dont know, I like to believe they have more of a clue than none. Perhaps they lack the convinction to speak these concerns aloud and out themselves as an "anti vaxxer" or some such nonsense. They do tend to be quite image-conscious dont they?

 

[Dude Snakes]

This.
I have left-wing friends who aren't raving psychos that actively wish for my own imprisonment and demise.


For all their screeching about "the science" these fucks sure are afraid of Darwinism knocking at the door.

Actually it sounds like they are insane, for your safety I would not hang around them.

 

[FAQnews Correspondent]

Shapiro glows too much for me.

I think he's just a neocon who had a niche that he could exploit (pwn the liberals with facts and knowledge) that lost it because they finally stopped pretending they only just want to talk (or yell).

The one exception to this is the suggestion that we should refuse to treat unvaccinated people.

They don't want this because of any concern for hospital capacity. They want this because they get giddy and excited over seeing le unvaxxed chuds dying.

Are leftists really okay with the establishment of a medical apartheid? Especially if that medical apartheid happens to be disproportionally non-white? (It is, whites are too compliant).

Yes they are.

Are leftists really okay with the accelerator on wealth disparity being firmly depressed since the pandemic began? Jeff Bezos is doing mighty well for himself lately. If I were particularly cynical, I might even think the ongoing lockdowns and measures were cooked up for plutocrat benefit to choke out competition.

They sure act like it. They bitch and moan about Bezos but support everything that makes Amazon bigger and bigger.

Are leftists really okay with the countless dollars funneled into big pharma that have failed to deliver substantive neutralizing immunity? Whatever your feelings on socialized healthcare, I want a fuck of a lot more for our money than the garbage Pfizer, Moderna and what have you have offered so far. Id take increased healthcare capacity or even just better fucking pay for our healthcare workers over that any day.

They're just as okay with the same big pharma they used to rail against, just like they became okay with the forever wars because Obama got into office.

Are leftists really so naive as to believe that the massive amounts of data being collected and aggregated under the auspices of contact tracing and vaccination tracking wont be abused by the "fascists" (as they define them at least) of tomorrow?

They really want mass spying and data collection because they hate you that much.

 

[General Disarray]

Overheard a very feminine sounding male talking about Covid, and 1/6.

Completely unhinged. Believes the democracy is at stake, fervently. Believes Trump the "asshole" and his cohorts in Congress were truly trying to overthrow the Most Popular President. Idiot had NO symptoms but a mild headache (his own words) and he tested positive. Believes it's the dirty selfish unvaxxed that should just die already for his terrible predicament. He's losing a ton of money on jobs now! (hahaha good, dumbass). Sounded like some sort of session musician, far from A-list, going around to local churches and shit (those damn Evangelicals, I was the only one wearing a mask!!!)

Some days at work I just want to throw that fucking monitor out the window.

 

[FAQnews Correspondent]

I have left-wing friends who aren't raving psychos that actively wish for my own imprisonment and demise.

A psycho that says this to you calmly is still a psycho.

 

[Evilronald]

It doesn't seem quite as bad here, but I've definitely noticed this hysteria on social media - the idea that you must be taking precautions to minimise covid cases and if you don't, you literally have blood on your hands. And a refusal to engage with the cost of lockdowns and restrictions - a flat out denial that we've been destroying the economy and increasing poverty, and that could end up killing more people and younger people compared to if we just let what is now just a cold run riot.

I think you've really hit on something with "look like good people". I know it's gauche to do the Millenial "this is just like in Harry Potter when" thing, but I'm reminded of a line from the Broadway production of Into The Woods by Steven Sondheim, when essentially a group of people refuse to give up Jack (from Jack and The Beanstalk) to stop a rampaging giant killing them all;

"You're so nice. You're not good, you're not bad, you're just nice."

It's like a refusal to engage with ethics and a denial that our healthcare system chooses to let some people die all the time based on making the most of resources (i.e. a 95 year old won't get a heart transplant, would it really be so bad if they don't get covid treatment to preserve hospital capacity either?). People are clinging to simplified narratives, possibly because they're traumatised from lockdowns or possibly because they've never had to consider mortality before.

The one exception to this is the suggestion that we should refuse to treat unvaccinated people. Never mind that this wouldn't help avoid a hospital capacity crisis compared to deciding that fully vaccinated 95 year old granny shouldn't get treatment because a 45 year old anti-vaxxer is more likely to recover - that's somehow wrong because granny took the vaccine and therefore is a Goodie, and meanwhile the antivaxxer is a Baddie and should be punished. It's still like a child's morality narrative.

They also get extremely deranged if you ask them about whether they trust big pharma (who conducted the studies on their own vaccine’s efficacy and based on whistleblower complaints either did a terrible job at it or cooked the number). All the big pharmaceutical companies have done some insane and criminal things for profits. All of them have paid billions in fines for lying about medications or conspiring to price gouge sick people, but no one gets charged and at worst the fine is the same as the profits they made.

I an genuinely curious about leftist takes on Covid because in theory I dont see why there cant be bipartisan opposition.

Are leftists really okay with the establishment of a medical apartheid? Especially if that medical apartheid happens to be disproportionally non-white? (It is, whites are too compliant).

Are leftists really okay with the accelerator on wealth disparity being firmly depressed since the pandemic began? Jeff Bezos is doing mighty well for himself lately. If I were particularly cynical, I might even think the ongoing lockdowns and measures were cooked up for plutocrat benefit to choke out competition.

Are leftists really okay with the countless dollars funneled into big pharma that have failed to deliver substantive neutralizing immunity? Whatever your feelings on socialized healthcare, I want a fuck of a lot more for our money than the garbage Pfizer, Moderna and what have you have offered so far. Id take increased healthcare capacity or even just better fucking pay for our healthcare workers over that any day.

Are leftists really so naive as to believe that the massive amounts of data being collected and aggregated under the auspices of contact tracing and vaccination tracking wont be abused by the "fascists" (as they define them at least) of tomorrow?

I dont know, I like to believe they have more of a clue than none. Perhaps they lack the convinction to speak these concerns aloud and out themselves as an "anti vaxxer" or some such nonsense. They do tend to be quite image-conscious dont they?

Jimmy Dore had an adverse reaction to the Covid vaccine and has been against mandatory vaccinations, especially since they hurt poor and working class people the most. He’s called out alot of other leftists for their support for big pharma and vaccine mandates as well. It really is fascinating how stupid most progressives are, instead of fighting for the middle and lower class like they claim to they shill for big pharma and the destruction of the middle class. At least neoliberals don’t pretend to care about anyone besides the managerial class and the elites.

 

[Hollywood Hitler]

You see? We always told you that cloth masks were useless. Now completely ignore everything we told you over the past 18 months.

She would've been fired a long time ago for lying like this if she weren't working for the government.

 

[D.Va]

Sometime between April and June this year, TomTom stopped reporting the traffic index for China so it's no longer possible to use their data to circumvent the Chinese censors on whether their cities are really open or not. It was great during last year to evaluate which cities were in lockdown since Xinhua love to play pretend everything is okay in la la land.

Meanwhile deaths in the UK yesterday had a record low for the first time since July, lefties are seething that thousands of people aren't dropping dead so they could be right on twitter dot com

 

[Ambient Occlusion]

My work was planning on having a meetup for the first time since 2020, and of course they canceled it because of the SpOoOkY Omnicron. Fucking hell, Is this going to be our reaction every time there's a mutation? We're not in March of 2020 anymore, we have much better ways of treating it now. (Not to mention this variant has been proven many times to be mild) I really wonder if this shit is going to end because the media LOVES reporting case numbers. This thing could eventually turn into another common cold and I bet they would still be harping on about case numbers every single day.

 

[Car Won't Crank]

My work was planning on having a meetup for the first time since 2020, and of course they canceled it because of the SpOoOkY Omnicron. Fucking hell, Is this going to be our reaction every time there's a mutation? We're not in March of 2020 anymore, we have much better ways of treating it now. (Not to mention this variant has been proven many times to be mild) I really wonder if this shit is going to end because the media LOVES reporting case numbers. This thing could eventually turn into another common cold and I bet they would still be harping on about case numbers every single day.

They're gonna keep milking it for as long as people remain compliant and submissive or something finally breaks. I bet something else that may finally buck the trend in covid hysteria is if a major national company changes their policies and actually takes an active stance against the lunacy of the past couple years.

 

[Basic Blonde Boy]

I apparently have to be weary of having Wu Flu now. Apparently my brother has been hanging out with someone who recently got it. Neither of us have symptoms, so that is a plus. I guess it is time to worry about New Years being shit though.

I am taking this situation as a win-win to some degree. Either I don’t get it or I do and will likely spend a day or two fighting it off for immunity. I never stay sick for too long, guess God gave me some good genes, so I should be fine. This will hopefully be better protection than a booster.

 

[Fleece Johnson]

 

[George Lucas]

r/antiwork - In case you would like to know what it’s like working at Starbucks

70,563 votes and 11,457 comments so far on Reddit

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Starbucks:

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Get vaxxed, get yelled at... no worker nobody wants to work.

This seems like a fake, elaborate troll.

 

[Flaming Carrot]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2021/12/29/covid-omicron-vaccinated-blindsided-positive/

People are stunned to be getting covid, no matter how careful they’ve…

archived 29 Dec 2021 17:19:08 UTC

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Vaccinated people giving each other Covid and freaking out about it.

 

[Ruin]

This seems like a fake, elaborate troll.

It is a troll. The repeated use of 41% should tip you off. Amusingly r/antiwork tards fell for it too.