Containment Random Thoughts & Questions

[Coleslaw]

Probably not many. In most of America, the standards for driving tests are very low because it's become the only form of transportation available to most people. This comes from decades of expansion of automobile-only infrastructure that is actively hostile to all other forms.

Would writing to ask be weening?

 

[Phalanges Mycologist]

I doubt Chris will go to a mental health facility mostly because they’re expensive and the state won’t want to waste money on Chris if they don’t have to, same reason I can’t seeing Chris getting some kind of state funded tardwrangler.

Also while there might be an unintentional gem or two in any answers most of it will just be rambling nonsense about things being fated or how incredible his psychic powers are and other things that aren’t interesting since they have no basis in reality.

The only question I can think I’d want asked is if he’s heard of maladaptive daydreaming, giving him details of it and if it sounds similar to his idea of meditation/astral projection, wouldn’t expect a satisfactory answer though.

I think people are misunderstanding how to get answers out of Chris, it's like asking a child serious questions it's a progressive iteration with lots of easy questions.

1) What's your next comic going to be about.
2) Have you tried any new meditation techniques lately.
3) What crimes are you being charged with?
4) Can you tell me how your cooking your ramen?
5) In comic 2 what did you mean by.
6) What do you plan to do when your released etc?
7)...
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You have to get his mind into a state where it wants to answer questions and you do that by giving him nice easy ones to draw him in and throw in a few harder real ones that you do want answers to, but you also have to word them in a way he can't give you a simple yes or no answer and it has to be framed in a non threatening way and if you can wrap the softer questions in a way to prime him to answer the harder ones you'll more likely get the answer your looking for. Chris is a coward so he doesn't respond well to intimidation so he shuts down, you have to approach him in a non threatening way and just dangle what he wants or think he wants just outside of his reach.

 

[Second-Hand Boat Supplies]

Chris will just lie on his answers. The closest true and honest answers are there where he talks to his inner circle.

Whenever Chris asked for non disclosure, that's when he'll say something juicy.

I think this just means you’d have to write the questions very carefully. He won’t answer directly, but people could possibly ask around specific topics to at least get some hints

 

[Glowie]

Would it possible that Chris draws comics in prison? In black and white of course.

 

[Hogar Grupal]

You have to get his mind into a state where it wants to answer questions and you do that by giving him nice easy ones to draw him in and throw in a few harder real ones that you do wanbt answers to, but you also have to word them in a way he can't give you a simple yes or no answer and it has to be framed in a non threatening way and if you can wrap the softer questions in a way to prime him to answer the harder ones you'll more likely get the answer your looking for. Chris is a coward so he doesn't respond well to intimidation so he shuts down, you have to approach him in a non threatening way and just dangle what he wants or think he wants just outside of his reach.

It's like wrapping bad tasting medicine in applesauce and getting a toddler or animal to take it.

 

[Pointless Sperg]

I doubt Chris will go to a mental health facility mostly because they’re expensive and the state won’t want to waste money on Chris if they don’t have to, same reason I can’t seeing Chris getting some kind of state funded tardwrangler.

A lot of people misunderstand the kind of facility Chris could wind up in.

The old "insane asylum" is dead. It is almost impossible to involuntarily commit someone to such a facility today. They were emptied in the 70's and 80's by an alliance between leftists who thought they were cruel, fiscal conservatives who didn't want to pay for them, and angry moralists of all political wings who though that the "insanity defense" was somehow a get-out-of-jail-free card.

Their legacy is the few remaining state hospitals that still exist today. The residential areas are reserved for the few people who can still successfully mount an insanity defense, by virtue of being so batshit that they thought they were killing Godzilla or something. Most of the long-term patients still in these facilities are *very* old from verdicts that came long in the past. The laws have become stricter and stricter with the conditions in which someone can be committed to such an institution.

The *majority* of people in these facilities today are those on short-term holds, ranging from a few days to a few weeks (depending on state law). People are cycled in and out. They see a lot of repeat customers, but most of them eventually either turn out okay, or their long term "care facility" is prison.

Most modern mental health facilities are more like retirement centers. The people there are not confined, merely guided. They are there entirely of their own free will. They can come and go as they please. People can either wind up there thanks to the funding from relatives to pay for their care, or from the state in the form of housing vouchers. The key here is that they can't actually detain people.

This is why there are so many crazy fuckers on the street. They won't voluntarily stay in a facility, but they aren't insane enough to be forced into one for more than a few days. If they don't do anything horribly illegal, they just scream and shit themselves to death and usually wind up finally ending themselves by overdosing on easily available street fentanyl. The more violent ones go in and out of incarceration -- never receiving the treatment they really need.

The one exception is with minors. Since they have restricted rights, the old asylum model still lives in their case as "Behavioral Health Centers". While these also serve adults, their primary purpose is involuntarily housing mentally ill juvelines. This still requires parental approval, but many wards of the state wind up there as well. Unfortunately oversight of these places is almost as poor as the asylums of the past, as political pressure was mostly built around deinstiutionalization rather than fixing the institutions.

If Chris winds up in a facility, it will be in one of those voluntary assisted living centers. This may just work, as Chris is lazy enough that he might rather just stay there than defiantly becoming homeless.

 

[Ophelia]

Would it possible that Chris draws comics in prison? In black and white of course.

He doesn’t seem to really like drawing them the way he used to.

 

[Phalanges Mycologist]

It's like wrapping bad tasting medicine in applesauce and getting a toddler or animal to take it.

Prety much, You have to approach Chris like you would a small child with special needs rather than how you would an adult.

 

[Hogar Grupal]

Prety much, You have to approach Chris like you would a small child with special needs rather than how you would an adult.

It's ironic how his parents tried to make Chris into an adult (in their own exceptional way), but he just pushed back into becoming a child with out the consequences of being an adult. Would you want to give a child a drivers license? In regards to Chris, he can't have it both ways; be treated like an adult and accept those consequences, or a child but be placed in a childlike setting. Some autists could function in adult environments, while Chris, clearly can't.

 

[Tikbalang]

Would it possible that Chris draws comics in prison? In black and white of course.

Yes but he's too lazy to make one and papers are limited.
Chris claimed he already made 100+ issues so it should be easy to replicate the pages the same way he did it on Rosechu Story.

It's ironic how his parents tried to make Chris into an adult (in their own exceptional way), but he just pushed back into becoming a child with out the consequences of being an adult. Would you want to give a child a drivers license? In regards to Chris, he can't have it both ways; be treated like an adult and accept those consequences, or a child but be placed in a childlike setting. Some autists could function in adult environments, while Chris, clearly can't.

They should have kick him out by the time he took his associate's degree.

 

[Ophelia]

It's ironic how his parents tried to make Chris into an adult (in their own exceptional way), but he just pushed back into becoming a child with out the consequences of being an adult. Would you want to give a child a drivers license?

Barb wanted a helper monkey. Smart enough to run errands for her in a car, too dumb to make it on his own, dependent on her. Bob just let Barb do what she wanted.

They should have kick him out by the time he took his associate's degree.

To what point and purpose? He wouldn’t make it.

 

[Aegeus]

He's not going to give you honest answers unless you're a "friend".

And by "friend," Chris means someone willing to spend dozens of hours role-playing with him. You'll have to agree with his Dimensional Merge insane ramblings, pretend he is a "goddess," pretend he is intelligent, pretend he is impressive, praise him, kiss his ass, and of course never vocalize any "Hate Speech" like: "get a job."

 

[Phalanges Mycologist]

He doesn’t seem to really like drawing them the way he used to.

I don't think he has for a VERY long time, possibly ever the cartoons where always a way for him to give voice to his personifications and when people started messing with his carefully controlled fantasy world he lost a lot of enthusiasm because it wasn't just his any more.

It's ironic how his parents tried to make Chris into an adult (in their own exceptional way), but he just pushed back into becoming a child with out the consequences of being an adult. Would you want to give a child a drivers license? In regards to Chris, he can't have it both ways; be treated like an adult and accept those consequences, or a child but be placed in a childlike setting. Some autists could function in adult environments, while Chris, clearly can't.

Chris hit a hard developmental wall early, any improvements he's ever made have been incremental and he back slides at any opportunity to shirk the additional responsibility.

 

[thegooddoctor]

How come out of all the letters we've seen, nobody has asked Chris what his plans are for when he gets out?

"What's your favorite food? Do you like TV? Did they give you a pillow?" I don't care about that shit.

You have no car, no job, no home, and your only family you fucked figuratively and literally.

Chris has said that he talks with the staff frequently. Maybe he has a jail social worker who is helping him figure out what he's going to do. Hook him up with a church outreach or a homeless shelter or something. I don't think Chris is going to a group home, those things take time, effort, and money I don't see anyone investing in him.

I can only guess what will happen. Best case scenario, he gets time served and is able to be released. When he eventually gets out, they're going to hand him a bag with all his possessions open the door and then he's on his own. He's got x amount of time report to his probation officer, who is going to want him to have an address and probably a job. He's going to have fines to pay which is going to be hard for him. Who knows what other restrictions they will place on him.

Chris broke the PPO and took Barb's money because he couldn't sleep in the van for one night. What is he going to do when he has nowhere to go? Doesn't look like there are a whole lot of resources for the homeless in that neck of the woods.

Because they’re mostly talentless weens and only want to scrape the barrel for getting Chris to say stupid crap or ask the most mundane questions about prison life, they aren’t interested in asking genuinely relevant or important questions. Also Chris genuinely still believes that he’ll eventually be able to go back to his house and be with Barb, he’s not even thinking that it won’t be a possibility. I don’t know if it’s what he actually believes or is it just a coming mechanism so he doesn’t go completely mad. That’s just what he’s said.

 

[Optimus Prime]

If Chris winds up in a facility, it will be in one of those voluntary assisted living centers. This may just work, as Chris is lazy enough that he might rather just stay there than defiantly becoming homeless.

Given how fucking entitled he is, I can see him absolutely spending the rest of his life in one of these places purely because they actually handle a lot of the decision making most people deal with, so long as the state provides the housing free of charge because I doubt the Tugboat would be enough.

The one problem with it all is if Chris has to admit in any capacity that he has a mental problem beyond Autism, because now that he's a tranny goddess on several levels in his head, his usual problem of never admitting he's anything less than perfect is magnified exponentially.

 

[Tikbalang]

Given how fucking entitled he is, I can see him absolutely spending the rest of his life in one of these places purely because they actually handle a lot of the decision making most people deal with, so long as the state provides the housing free of charge because I doubt the Tugboat would be enough.

The one problem with it all is if Chris has to admit in any capacity that he has a mental problem beyond Autism, because now that he's a tranny goddess on several levels in his head, his usual problem of never admitting he's anything less than perfect is magnified exponentially.

The most cost-effective solution for homelessness is giving them bare minimum housing unit, like studio type; given the condition that they will not profit off of it like rent and sell.
If Chris is living in that room, his problem would be the lack of space for his toys to pile.

 

[thegooddoctor]

Would Chris be better off having gone to a special education school? Where there really any such places in the 90s given how new and inexperienced people were with dealing with autistic people?

 

[Pickle Inspector]

Would Chris be better off having gone to a special education school? Where there really any such places in the 90s given how new and inexperienced people were with dealing with autistic people?

I think A-log is a good equivalent to Chris, I believe they’re similar ages but Anthony went to a special school and while he’s still clearly socially awkward he’s more able to cope in the real world than Chris is.

Although everyone is different and it’s really hard to say how it’d work out but I believe they’d be experienced enough to push Chris out of his comfort zone and give him better ways to deal with life compared to letting him sleep through class and read Goosebumps like what happened during the attempt at mainstreaming him.

 

[Pointless Sperg]

Given how fucking entitled he is, I can see him absolutely spending the rest of his life in one of these places purely because they actually handle a lot of the decision making most people deal with, so long as the state provides the housing free of charge because I doubt the Tugboat would be enough.

The one problem with it all is if Chris has to admit in any capacity that he has a mental problem beyond Autism, because now that he's a tranny goddess on several levels in his head, his usual problem of never admitting he's anything less than perfect is magnified exponentially.

As I mentioned before, theoretically Chris could get a housing voucher to pay for it, on top of his tugboat. This would be enough to pay for both his housing (assuming it's in a low-cost area), and his daily needs like food and such. His tugboat alone will not pay for managed housing -- if he relied on only his tugboat, he could maybe get a tiny rural hovel somewhere and have barely enough left over for ramen.

Fortunately these sorts of places are used to dealing with delusional tards, so that won't be a huge issue.

 

[silentium]

This is why there are so many crazy fuckers on the street. They won't voluntarily stay in a facility, but they aren't insane enough to be forced into one for more than a few days. If they don't do anything horribly illegal, they just scream and shit themselves to death and usually wind up finally ending themselves by overdosing on easily available street fentanyl. The more violent ones go in and out of incarceration -- never receiving the treatment they really need.

Absolutely mind-boggling that the Baker Act is only restricted to families and loved ones. Most first world countries let psychiatrists involuntarily commit and treat patients they deem to be insane.

Land of the Free once again showing why it's a third world country.