US Joe Biden News Megathread - The Other Biden Derangement Syndrome Thread (with a side order of Fauci Derangement Syndrome)

Let's pretend for one moment that he does die before the election, just for the funsies. What happens then? Will the nomination revert to option number 2, aka Bernie Sanders? Or will his running mate automatically replace him just the way Vice-President is supposted to step in after the Big Man in the White House chokes on a piece of matzo? Does he even have a running mate yet?

 

[Garm]

Right, but he's a governor with emergency powers. He arguably has more power than the Feds just by sitting on his hands, so the incentive to wind down COVID isn't there either from the top or the bottom.

In that case Biden be fucked. Biden cannot wrangle the supply crisis as long as the COVID crisis exists. And if Newsome keeps the COVID crisis going, Dems everywhere suffer.

I really don't understand Biden's process with Covid.

He is easing up restrictions by cutting quarintine days in half and waving the white flag at the federal level, which will only piss off his hardcore Covid fear constituency, and the only reason he was ever close to the White House in any capacity.

Meanwhile, his mandates are still in everyone's minds and in some states being enforced anyways, while the idea of closing down domestic air travel for the unvaxxed is in the air, pissing off Trump's base and anti lockdown people.

It seems the plan was for him was that Covid would stop being a problem by now so he can open the economy and obtain the "LOOK AT ME I AM FIXING EVERYTHING" moniker, but Delta and now Omnicron are cucking him out of it since they are now vaccine resistant and people don't want shots forever.

Unironically, Trump "losing" 2020 might've been the greatest thing to happen, since now Democrats get a version of Dubya they can't fallate into stardom through media manipulation.

On the one hand it does seem like one of those fiction plots where some foreign actor has undue influence and starts making the system go wonky. (Kamala Harris is supposedly consulting Hillary Clinton so you can add another layer of "Former Democrat politicians weighing in" to this.)

On the other hand, Biden may just be utterly incompetent. He was never meant for this and especially so now with the dementia riding high in the saddle.

3rd option. Democrat Civil war has disrupted things so badly they are forced to look for other allies. Anyone that can get things done outside the organization they have created for themselves. They aren't finding any because they fucked everyone over to put Biden in but still, desperation.

4. All of these things because Joe Biden is a disaster magnet.

 

[verissimus]

she's stuck pandering to such groups for whatever reason

....that pretty much is Hillary Clinton to a T when you think about it.

 

[derpherp2]

Fauci pretty much admitted these sudden changes were made to keep society going.

Nothing says a functioning society than a 40% unemployment rate (the actual one) a ~25% inflation rate (the actual one, accounting for less portions for more costs with less quality) and a hostile partisan environment where one side is the objective bully that everyone treats as an elephant in the room - even themselves.

But hey, the adults are in charge now.

lol

I like how they talked about how more Americans enrolled in it, as if it was voluntary and not being forced by the threat of a fine, despite for many it might have been better to never sign up at all.

How dare you bigot. What next? Unemployment is low because people have given up on finding a decent job and/or killed themselves? Fucking conspiracy theorist.

 

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Yeah, all of the Dem's efforts over the next 10 months are going to be about figuring out how to not get completely destroyed in the midterms and then dragged in front of tribunal after tribunal after the shoe is on the other foot.

Oh, can you imagine?

A haggard old woman, barely clinging to life, clutching a crushed wine box in her arms like a teddy bear, rocking slowly in her seat.

Her 3rd congressional hearing of the day, 8th this week alone.

"Welcome back Ms. Pelosi. Now, once more, from the top. Can you explain why, exactly, you were trying to take control of the Nuclear Launch Codes in May of 2020?"

 

[WhatInTheActualFuck]

Oh, can you imagine?

A haggard old woman, barely clinging to life, clutching a crushed wine box in her arms like a teddy bear, rocking slowly in her seat.

Her 3rd congressional hearing of the day, 8th this week alone.

"Welcome back Ms. Pelosi. Now, once more, from the top. Can you explain why, exactly, you were trying to take control of the Nuclear Launch Codes in May of 2020?"

...especially if the next order of business after that would be to get Hunter Biden in front of them to go over all of his shady-ass shit starting with that damned laptop. Some people are talking impeachment in '23, but I'd much rather see them go for the death by a million cuts approach dragged out all the way to '24 and beyond.

 

[AnotherPleb]

In that case Biden be fucked. Biden cannot wrangle the supply crisis as long as the COVID crisis exists. And if Newsome keeps the COVID crisis going, Dems everywhere suffer.

Usually the DNC would be able to make Newsom fall on his sword, but I don't think they have the reserves to do that.

 

[The Last Stand]

haggard old woman, barely clinging to life, clutching a crushed wine box in her arms like a teddy bear, rocking slowly in her seat.

Lesson learned: don't be in your 70s and drink.

 

[Lorne Armstrong]

now Democrats get a version of Dubya they can't fellate into stardom through media manipulation.

But they can try. Oh, how they’ll try.

 

[Lorne Armstrong]

Yeah, all of the Dem's efforts over the next 10 months are going to be about figuring out how to not get completely destroyed in the midterms and then dragged in front of tribunal after tribunal after the shoe is on the other foot

Like the GOP did last time they had the House and Senate? Get real. If the GOP gets the keys to the House and Senate back in ‘22 they’ll shit the bed and do nothing, just like Dems are right now.

 

[Lorne Armstrong]

Some people are talking impeachment in '23, but I'd much rather see them go for the death by a million cuts approach dragged out all the way to '24 and beyond.

I’ll say the same thing I said during the years worth of impeachment bullshit about Trump. It’s a waste of time if you know beforehand that the votes aren’t there in the Senate to convict. You need 67 Senators to convict. Even if the Dems lose the Senate in the midterms, they’re not going to lose anywhere near 17 seats, and there’s no way for the GOP to get to 67 in the Senate even with Manchin onboard. With the exception of MAYBE Manchin and Sinema, the Dems wouldn’t vote to convict Joe of child molestation even if there was video evidence and the victim corroborated it.

With that said, I’m sure that if the GOP take the House and Senate in ‘22, they’ll spend the next 2 years wasting their time on shit like this. Like the Obamacare repeal and so many other things, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.

 

[Capsaicin Addict]

I really don't understand Biden's process with Covid.

He is easing up restrictions by cutting quarintine days in half and waving the white flag at the federal level, which will only piss off his hardcore Covid fear constituency, and the only reason he was ever close to the White House in any capacity.

Meanwhile, his mandates are still in everyone's minds and in some states being enforced anyways, while the idea of closing down domestic air travel for the unvaxxed is in the air, pissing off Trump's base and anti lockdown people.

It seems the plan was for him was that Covid would stop being a problem by now so he can open the economy and obtain the "LOOK AT ME I AM FIXING EVERYTHING" moniker, but Delta and now Omnicron are cucking him out of it since they are now vaccine resistant and people don't want shots forever.

Unironically, Trump "losing" 2020 might've been the greatest thing to happen, since now Democrats get a version of Dubya they can't fallate into stardom through media manipulation.

In my opinion, it's a no win scenario for the Bidenharris regime.

If they don't ease up, SCOTUS will probably strike their stupid mandates down and you'll have states with sane governors straight up nullifying the restrictions. That doesn't even touch on the damage -- mental, economic, physical, etc -- caused by the mandates and lockdowns.

But they've spent so much time hyping Covid as the worstest thing ever (seriously, people didn't freak out like this about fuckin' ebola), that as a result if they ease up, the Branch Covidian section of their fanbase will lose their minds.

Regardless, mine the salt. I have Roman legionnaires to pay.

 

[X Prime]

Putting faith in the courts is a poor play, I must say.

Though if it does happen, yes you will basically have two Americas split between states who impose mandates and those that do not.

 

[Salubrious]

In that case Biden be fucked. Biden cannot wrangle the supply crisis as long as the COVID crisis exists. And if Newsome keeps the COVID crisis going, Dems everywhere suffer.

This is a stupid question, but I'm just curious.

Why can't Biden just throw the army/National Guard at this problem, like the Dems do everything else?

Isn't the main problem that there just isn't enough manpower to get the containers unloaded? Is there a deeper problem that I'm sure I'm missing long-term, but short term might at least fix something?

I'm not saying it's a GOOD plan, but a bad plan is better than NO plan at this point, isn't it? Is there a variable that I'm missing besides manpower.

Then again, maybe COVID showed that a bad plan isn't exactly better than no plan.

 

[Overly Serious]

The problem is that there's really no way to say for sure whether the jabs did anything since Big Pharma has been doing everything in their power to eliminate any possible control group. My dad signed up to be part of vaccine trials, and he got the placebo, but they not only informed him of that (which, if memory serves, they shouldn't have until after trials were concluded), they also offered him the actual jab. He took them up on the offer, not even caring that he was removing another control group data point. Actions like these not only obfuscate any benefits the jabs might have, it also means they're getting paid for more doses. Note how the first people to discuss a fourth jab were Big Pharma heads.

They switched to offering people in the control groups the real vaccine after it became more apparent that the existence of a control group would show that the vaccine caused vascular damage. They've done pretty much everything they can to eliminate control groups. Unfortunately for Pfizer and Moderna, Florida still exists.

 

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Putting faith in the courts is a poor play, I must say.

Though if it does happen, yes you will basically have two Americas split between states who impose mandates and those that do not.

And unless the blue states find a way to force the red states to implement mandates, the economic damage to the blue states that the red states won't take will solve that little problem in a few years.

 

[The Ugly One]

It's a mixture of both. The vaccines make you less likely to die of covid if you're old or have comorbidities, but the people who were most likely to end up in hospital have either had it and recovered or died.

The fat, diabetic 75 year olds who were on ventilators during the first wave have, by and large, died (either from covid or from another consequence of being old and in poor health) so they aren't causing death numbers to go up in the way they were back then.

According to the CDC, the average loss of life from COVID-19 was just 6 months. All the coof did, with very rare exceptions, was move the year's deaths forward a bit.

Like the GOP did last time they had the House and Senate? Get real. If the GOP gets the keys to the House and Senate back in ‘22 they’ll shit the bed and do nothing, just like Dems are right now.

Remember when the GOP took full control of the government, so they repealed Obamacare, reformed the civil service, legalized aptitude testing, defanged CAFE, fortified the border, brought industry back from China, and ripped apart the IRS over the Tea Party scandal?

Oh right, they passed a tax cut and launched an investigation to try and have their own party's President framed as a Russian spy. Most worthless party in the history of political parties.

 

[Honka Honka Burning Love]

Why can't Biden just throw the army/National Guard at this problem, like the Dems do everything else?

Isn't the main problem that there just isn't enough manpower to get the containers unloaded? Is there a deeper problem that I'm sure I'm missing long-term, but short term might at least fix something?

I don't think it is just a Manpower issue, I think there are also some rather large procedural issues because this is all happening in Commiefornia which is a Branch Covidian state so it has all those rules and restrictions to deal with.

 

[The Ugly One]

I personally wish she haven't. She was 100% right in that statement. Times change, but not always for the better.

The issue I get with that point is that people use it as a gotcha to call Hillary racist.

Hillary is racist; this is uncontroversial. Racist in 2021 just means you don't believe absolute fairy tales about what black people are like. If you believe blacks commit violent crime at much higher rates than whites, you're racist. Full stop. You have to believe that black neighborhoods are just as safe as white neighborhoods to not be racist.

 

[The Last Stand]

Hillary is racist; this is uncontroversial. Racist in 2021 just means you don't believe absolute fairy tales about what black people are like. If you believe blacks commit violent crime at much higher rates than whites, you're racist. Full stop. You have to believe that black neighborhoods are just as safe as white neighborhoods to not be racist.

Urban areas are stasticially less safe compared to suburban areas. The real question is: how does one fix it? For starters, acknowledging the faults and finding vital solutions to it.

Okay, crime is up. Hire more police, enact tough but fair DAs, look at situations on a case by case basis. Admit that X person did Y and leave it at that.

 

[soy_king]

Lesson learned: don't be in your 70s and drink.

I think Pelosi is over 80, or at least thereabouts