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There's a specific type of covid paranoiac I can't stand, and it's the one who decides to randomly do covid tests at inopportune moments.

This woman was halfway across the Atlantic and, feeling a sore throat, decided to do a covid test on the plane. The plane she'd been sat on for hours and was recirculating air. What's the point? If you're concerned about giving people covid, do a test before you board. If symptoms come on during the flight, do a test when you land and then let the airline know. Doing it on the plane just causes needless drama, and you'll have already infected everyone around you anyway.
She did it for the asspats, and she got them spades. She was A Hero, and all the passengers and aircrew stood and clapped at her heroic sacrifice and bought her a Christmas Tree.
 
As an aside, I feel awful for people under 25. Not only have they had their lives destroyed and been made to feel guilty about it "to save grandma", but these people are probably going to be scared of viruses for the rest of their lives. For the next decade for sure.
As someone who is 20, I just feel nothing at this point. My college experience is basically nonexistent and I am just working to make money to go out on my own. I wouldn’t even say Corona was the start as the 4 years of political warfare over Trump prior already was affecting things.

I got nothing. Clown world has been a continuous ride and I just sit here waiting for the mass explosion of it all. I just try to stay optimistic that some big changes for the better will probably fly in the crazier shit gets.
 
I asked a Branch Covidian friend what they thought about those teenagers in Australia who escaped from the quarantine camp, only to get picked up, taken back, and fined $5000; they'd tested negative for corona, so what was the point in sending them back to the quarantine camp? If they don't have the virus, they're not a danger to anyone, and so why can't they go home?

He said it was the right thing to send them back to the camp, and I quote, 'because it's the rules'. It struck me how his sense of morality was stuck at a child's understanding. I apparently forgot my psychology lessons, as few people (10-15%) reach the stage of moral development that allows you to go beyond 'following rules good, breaking rules bad', as per Kohlberg.

I think at least in his case, it's less of a lack of moral development and more a case of 'I can't comprehend the government being this evil, so I must rationalise this away as a good action'. I don't know. Maybe Kohlberg was right.

E: more explanation of the stages here - do 3&4 remind you of anything?
Next time you have this conversation, be sure to remind him that the Nuremburg Hygiene Laws were rules, too, and his beliefs justify the third reich.

I an genuinely curious about leftist takes on Covid because in theory I dont see why there cant be bipartisan opposition.

Are leftists really okay with the establishment of a medical apartheid? Especially if that medical apartheid happens to be disproportionally non-white? (It is, whites are too compliant).

Are leftists really okay with the accelerator on wealth disparity being firmly depressed since the pandemic began? Jeff Bezos is doing mighty well for himself lately. If I were particularly cynical, I might even think the ongoing lockdowns and measures were cooked up for plutocrat benefit to choke out competition.

Are leftists really okay with the countless dollars funneled into big pharma that have failed to deliver substantive neutralizing immunity? Whatever your feelings on socialized healthcare, I want a fuck of a lot more for our money than the garbage Pfizer, Moderna and what have you have offered so far. Id take increased healthcare capacity or even just better fucking pay for our healthcare workers over that any day.

Are leftists really so naive as to believe that the massive amounts of data being collected and aggregated under the auspices of contact tracing and vaccination tracking wont be abused by the "fascists" (as they define them at least) of tomorrow?

I dont know, I like to believe they have more of a clue than none. Perhaps they lack the convinction to speak these concerns aloud and out themselves as an "anti vaxxer" or some such nonsense. They do tend to be quite image-conscious dont they?
Leftists don't have the moral development for the philosophical position you have taken.

They are all adult children. The government told them this is best and told them what to do, so they do it. That is really how deep they have thought about things. Had a loser at work today tell me that he takes COVID seriously, can tell who doesn't, that it's easy for people to get vaccinated, and that he just wants this over. He literally didn't understand when I told him that this will only end when the majority of people tell the government they're done. Just stood there with his head cocked at an angle and a blank stare like a child who didn't understand.

This is the average branch covidian, and in truth the average voter. This is why any movement grounded in enlightenment ideals struggles to go anywhere. The authoritarian hivemind is allowed to exist as a political entity, then enough retards don't pay attention while it sends infiltrators into opposition camps and coopts them into controlled opposition ready to sit on the sidelines during the managed decline of the west.

This thing could eventually turn into another common cold
Always was. The only reason moderately healthy people have experienced such serious reactions to infection has been due to Vitamin D deficiency, lack of social interaction, sedentary living, and excess consumption of junk food. All things caused by government authoritarianism.

And the love every minute of it.
 
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This is the average branch covidian, and in truth the average voter. This is why any movement grounded in enlightenment ideals struggles to go anywhere. The authoritarian hivemind is allowed to exist as a political entity, then enough retards don't pay attention while it sends infiltrators into opposition camps and coopts them into controlled opposition ready to sit on the sidelines during the managed decline of the west.
It's known for several centuries that democracy devolves into tyranny. Also judging by the intelligence of an average voter, it's predictable that messaging based on emotion and simplified nontruths will prevail. Also the message that is the most skillfully crafted by those who have plenty of money to buy experts on crafting the right messages.

However, I wonder how to replace a democracy with a just and viable system? And what would it be? And how kleptocrats from Pfizer et al can be fooled to accept it?
 
looked it up myself and it's actually 22 points. words can't describe how fucked up that is but an interesting side-effect is the ivy league classes of the early 2040s will likely mainly consist of kids from states like florida and flyover ones where they usually don't stand a chance
22 points . . .
100 is average . . .
New average is 8878 . . .
So an entire generation of white supremacists? Or an entire generation of niggers?

We now live in Book of Eli. Old people are the future.

Fuck.

Edit: New average is 78. Generations of niggers it is. Remember to buy riot gear, friends.
 
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Gonna give her the benefit of the doubt and assume that it was really for the Tiktok but that's someone who teaches kids..





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So much virtue signaling. SO much...Cant take it anymore
 
I remember when I read an article that was supposed to be scary, and it said FORTY million Americans tangentially knew someone that died of COVID.

This sounds like a big number, until you realize that there are 330 million Americans.

So even if the number is true (I don't think it is, but Devil's Advocate here), 40/330 = 12%. That means SEVEN out of EIGHT Americans did not know anyone that died from COVID. But 40 million sounds scary.

According to the CDC, the average loss of life from COVID-19 is only 6 months. Before the era of at-your-fingertips internet news, I wonder if we would have even really been able to panic about this. "Your elderly grandma? You know, the one who has trouble sitting up on her own? She got a cough and died." Somebody else posted this, don't remember who, but it's a reminder that if you're not fat, elderly, or diabetic, you have a very small chance of dying of COVID.

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As someone who is 20, I just feel nothing at this point. My college experience is basically nonexistent and I am just working to make money to go out on my own. I wouldn’t even say Corona was the start as the 4 years of political warfare over Trump prior already was affecting things.

I got nothing. Clown world has been a continuous ride and I just sit here waiting for the mass explosion of it all. I just try to stay optimistic that some big changes for the better will probably fly in the crazier shit gets.
I'm so glad I finished college before the Trump insanity really revved up, even if in my last semester I could tell shit was starting to get a bit strange. But what does suck is that I finally get my life in order in 2019 and am ready to actually do lots of fun shit these next few years when society shuts down. Probably for decades in some places too, since like hell am I jumping through all of these exceptional hoops they've set up. Even if I'm free where I am, the rest of the world isn't. They've made the world an objectively worse place and turned every country into North Korea but without all the zany fun stuff that looks like it's out of an 80s James Bond movie. Actually worse than North Korea, since most tourists in North Korea don't have to sit in a fucking prison camp for 10-14 days just to enter the country.

They cancelled years and years of real life just so a bunch of people who've already lived their life can have an extra few months rotting in the nursing home before the local Cuomo finally offs them. It's among the greatest crimes against humanity ever committed, and there's so many people to blame. I really hope these transhumanist assholes invent immortality, because if they did, I'd be sure to sign up just for the hope that one day I can feed these fuckers to Roko's Basilisk.
It's known for several centuries that democracy devolves into tyranny. Also judging by the intelligence of an average voter, it's predictable that messaging based on emotion and simplified nontruths will prevail. Also the message that is the most skillfully crafted by those who have plenty of money to buy experts on crafting the right messages.
I don't think it's ever been different, the only thing that's changed is the technology available. Is it really that different now then 1960 when Richard Daley found a bunch of votes like he always did, except instead of being one of his Chicago area friends he wanted to get elected, it just so happened to be his friend Joe Kennedy's son John who was running for president of the whole country? Is it really different when a Democrat in 2020 finds a box of ballots in the back of a car than it is in 1960 where Democrats find a box of ballots in the back of a car?

Democracy is just a variation of oligarchy, the plebs aren't really supposed to have a voice or a vote, they're supposed to listen to what the trusted experts say, the only difference is that for the first 200 years in the US it was your preacher (who was friends with a politician) or some local figure of note (who was taking orders from the political boss) while today it's some asshole in a suit or labcoat on TV who you've never met and never will. Ideally democracy wouldn't just be a sort of oligarchy and every voter would be an educated person interested in building society, but that's as likely as a society practicing communism just as Karl Marx intended.
However, I wonder how to replace a democracy with a just and viable system? And what would it be? And how kleptocrats from Pfizer et al can be fooled to accept it?
You don't. Any society is as good as the people who live there. In general you'd want a democracy but with lots of restrictions on voting so that most people who vote will be intelligent people interested in building a better country rather than parasitically draining from it. And that's not just a dig at welfare queens, that's a dig at all of the corporate assholes who are the biggest welfare queens of them all.
 
I just don't understand how. What are babies missing now that they aren't getting during the pandemic? Is the lack of social interaction, but how much non-family social interaction would a 2 year old have by this point anyways? Unless its just the parents doomscrolling all day and neglecting their kids.

edit: I was assuming this was all kids in the study. Didn't think it might have had to do with pregnant mothers being jabbed.

Regularly seeing faces is also critical in infant neurological development. Once past infancy, social interaction with other children is also important. If you want your baby to be a brain-damaged sperg, but don't feel like hitting the sauce during pregnancy, a great way to do that is make adults wear masks around him and then don't ever let him play with other kids.
 
The vaccines are safe and effective and even although they may not be perfect they continue to offer a degree ot protection from transmission of Omicron

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Notice how the South African outbreak was pretty mild with reasonably low case numbers and all but done after 3 weeks?

What's the difference between South Africa and Australia?
 
looked it up myself and it's actually 22 points. words can't describe how fucked up that is but an interesting side-effect is the ivy league classes of the early 2040s will likely mainly consist of kids from states like florida and flyover ones where they usually don't stand a chance
I found the study on MedRxiv and apparently in the comments, one of the researchers who conducted that study said the kids being tested wore masks. I assume because of that, it was fundamentally different from cognitive studies of the past. I wouldn't take too much from that study, but I think we all can safely say that there will be some indelible psychological and emotional damage on kids raised by Branch Covidians. I wager we will see a larger uptick in adolescent anxiety, depression, and other common mental problems that we already see today, especially among females.
 
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I'm so glad I finished college before the Trump insanity really revved up, even if in my last semester I could tell shit was starting to get a bit strange. But what does suck is that I finally get my life in order in 2019 and am ready to actually do lots of fun shit these next few years when society shuts down. Probably for decades in some places too, since like hell am I jumping through all of these exceptional hoops they've set up. Even if I'm free where I am, the rest of the world isn't. They've made the world an objectively worse place and turned every country into North Korea but without all the zany fun stuff that looks like it's out of an 80s James Bond movie. Actually worse than North Korea, since most tourists in North Korea don't have to sit in a fucking prison camp for 10-14 days just to enter the country.

They cancelled years and years of real life just so a bunch of people who've already lived their life can have an extra few months rotting in the nursing home before the local Cuomo finally offs them. It's among the greatest crimes against humanity ever committed, and there's so many people to blame. I really hope these transhumanist assholes invent immortality, because if they did, I'd be sure to sign up just for the hope that one day I can feed these fuckers to Roko's Basilisk
I have had lots of issues since high school to be honest. Maybe going off tangent and venting a little, but there seems to be something fundamentally wrong with the time and a good chunk of my general age group. Being social is unusually difficult for me, not in the I am a sped way, but in the everyone is in their own world type of way. I have been waiting to leave college as I feel like it is my gateway into social activities which feels wrong to say. Throughout high school I feel like most of my friends were either burn outs who saw no value in leaving their pod of gaming past school, or they are so involved that all they do is an activity or a minimum wage job.

Personally, I found myself becoming super attached to a job just because it was where I had friends. Recently I left my job as I thought it would push me to get out with them more (got one with weekends off). I even got a little ballsy and asked a girl out there, but now I just feel alone as nothing got through. The girl I liked ended up getting a boyfriend prior to me asking, but we are still friends. I have tried getting her out for winter break, but with the current shit she will not budge. I asked all my coworkers if they wanted to do New Years together, which only garnered nothing responses, except for her who wanted to bring a friend. So, are we partying for New Years? Nope, she decided she feels bad last minute and needs to work that night as she is the only manager thanks to the pandemic and workers shortage. She and others pull this shit so often, I had to plan a group event 3-months out just to get anyone to go, and only 1/2 showed up. I love my coworkers and consider them friends but god damn do I want these years to be over so maybe I can go out and function like a normal 20-something, rather than dragging myself to see them at the old job and getting a sob story about how we should go out as it is normal (Too bad they won’t).

I hate these years man. Either my peeps are complete bums or they are scheduled to hell thanks to this workers shortage shit and not being done with college to move on. I just want a social life, why does something so simple have to come out like I am navigating a Disney trip to see these fuckers for one night outside of work.

The social issues are probably the biggest drag currently, which makes the lock downs seem so much worse as I am now losing even more time with people my age. It also keeps me in the house which means listening to parents’ Trump and Corona sperging which has been going on for a long while. Our country is completely fucked and none of the vaccines are working, yet all I hear from them is about the horrors of Trump’s lawyer and how they are going to get lessened symptoms with the vax. I am very tired at this point.
 
Just a humble reminder, folks.

Cases don't equal hospitalizations.

Hospitalizations don't equal deaths.

Fuck the fearmongerers.

Over three times as many Americans have died from heart disease and cancer than the Chinese Flu over the past two years.

All fearmongering.

Lose your fear, and "they" lose. "They" WANT you scared. Fuck that and fuck "them". "They" are the real enemy.
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Best documentary ever made.

Dude you can't say shit like this and not be able to subtract 22 from 100.
Sure I can. Just another nigger on the internet.
 
I found the study on MedRxiv and apparently in the comments, one of the researchers who conducted that study said the kids being tested wore masks. I assume because of that, it was fundamentally different from cognitive studies of the past. I wouldn't take too much from that study, but I think we all can safely say that there will be some indelible psychological and emotional damage on kids raised by Branch Covidians. I wager we will see a larger uptick in adolescent anxiety, depression, and other common mental problems that we already see today, especially among females.
The article I found said the control group/older kids still scored around 100 despite also wearing masks.
 
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I'm so glad I finished college before the Trump insanity really revved up, even if in my last semester I could tell shit was starting to get a bit strange. But what does suck is that I finally get my life in order in 2019 and am ready to actually do lots of fun shit these next few years when society shuts down. Probably for decades in some places too, since like hell am I jumping through all of these exceptional hoops they've set up. Even if I'm free where I am, the rest of the world isn't. They've made the world an objectively worse place and turned every country into North Korea but without all the zany fun stuff that looks like it's out of an 80s James Bond movie. Actually worse than North Korea, since most tourists in North Korea don't have to sit in a fucking prison camp for 10-14 days just to enter the country.

They cancelled years and years of real life just so a bunch of people who've already lived their life can have an extra few months rotting in the nursing home before the local Cuomo finally offs them. It's among the greatest crimes against humanity ever committed, and there's so many people to blame. I really hope these transhumanist assholes invent immortality, because if they did, I'd be sure to sign up just for the hope that one day I can feed these fuckers to Roko's Basilisk.

I don't think it's ever been different, the only thing that's changed is the technology available. Is it really that different now then 1960 when Richard Daley found a bunch of votes like he always did, except instead of being one of his Chicago area friends he wanted to get elected, it just so happened to be his friend Joe Kennedy's son John who was running for president of the whole country? Is it really different when a Democrat in 2020 finds a box of ballots in the back of a car than it is in 1960 where Democrats find a box of ballots in the back of a car?

Democracy is just a variation of oligarchy, the plebs aren't really supposed to have a voice or a vote, they're supposed to listen to what the trusted experts say, the only difference is that for the first 200 years in the US it was your preacher (who was friends with a politician) or some local figure of note (who was taking orders from the political boss) while today it's some asshole in a suit or labcoat on TV who you've never met and never will. Ideally democracy wouldn't just be a sort of oligarchy and every voter would be an educated person interested in building society, but that's as likely as a society practicing communism just as Karl Marx intended.

You don't. Any society is as good as the people who live there. In general you'd want a democracy but with lots of restrictions on voting so that most people who vote will be intelligent people interested in building a better country rather than parasitically draining from it. And that's not just a dig at welfare queens, that's a dig at all of the corporate assholes who are the biggest welfare queens of them all.
We should go back to how democracy was first conceived where people of the subjugated class were randomly selected to become a member of parliament for a year and were replaced by another group of randos a year later. It’s like jury duty but for members of congress.
 
Today was the deadline for people employed in roughly 60% of all jobs to get their first vaccination dose in Australia. Some industries technically had earlier deadlines, but its about 60% cumulatively now. And a further 15%? Cant operate during a lockdown without vaxx.

I didn't flinch, my employment is officially over. Fuck these people, fuck these scum for coercing people and threatening their liveliehoods, and fuck these pusilnamilous government faggots for getting employers to do their dirty work and mandate something THEY want but are too cowardly to own themselves.

I'm getting real tired of talking to people sympathetic to my individual medical circumstances (which I dont wish to divulge here) like doctors and my employer but who are ultimately powerless to do anything to help me.

I hate this system. I will lie, cheat, steal and wrought every red cent from it without a single pang in my conscience. I will become the toughest gristle I can for the gears of this machine to sputter and choke on. This is evil.

Ill be spending a great deal of time at home. I have it on good authority a lot of emergency services are gonna be very short staffed tomorrow and for the forseeable future.
 
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