Will there ever be an end to the constantly growing ‘wokeness’?

[Bad Gateway]

lol low IQ unvaxed thinking, get rekt op

 

[Bad Gateway]

Eventually, yes. Wokeness won't "end" per se, but will be discarded into obscurity as a time before.

We are slowly see "woke" policies getting BTFO by mainstream AND corporations. See Dave Chapelle with Netflix, "defund the police" folks reaping what they sewed, social media platform silently suppressing BLM/ANTIFA phrasing, even Biden's handling of the US.

I think Biden's "victory" will be the catalyst that will change Woke trajectory over time. Nobody likes Biden. Even MSM are having a hard time reporting, even speaking with Biden/Harris as they hold on to whatever momentum they THINK they have.

Neoliberalism with wokeness are two ungodly bedfellows. It's only a matter of time before one of them turns on the other. With "woke" people, they LOVE to eat their own if it'll help them short term. They have no long-term staying power, especially once you take away their income and social streams.

If you're in college, good luck. Otherwise, just try to hold the course as long as possible. Worrying about it isn't going to help matters.

what accounts should I stay tuned to while Im staying the course and crossing the rubicon and holding the line and going one going all you absolute fucking queer

 

[UselessPieceOfShit]

We will never come back to "normal". Moldbug wrote about it years ago, but you faggots didn't listen.

Troons and SJW insanity is here to stay, like it or not. Right wingers of tomorrow will protect pedos and troons against waves of necrophiliacs. "Listen", they will say "pedos are just normal people like you and me. And these corpse-fucking are not too bad if you think about it. I just prefer for them to do it behind closed doors in their own bedrooms". This is conservatism in 2050, you are welcome.

 

[RMQualtrough]

Absolutely and positively not. It will devolve more and more until it is genuine schizophrenics.

 

[Enceladus]

Extremists tend to purity spiral and eat each other without an external enemy. Wokeness really is some vicious shit and I think even normal people who generally support liberal ideas are getting peaked.

 

[Mountain Gorilla]

This is a very limited perspective on the matter.

When was the last time a “civil rights struggle” was lost or significantly pushed back? You’re acting as if the deeply held political views taught to young people today are the same as an embarrassing hairstyle. I’m sure that some stuff like neopronouns(fae/faerself or whatever) won’t last, but the general progressive drift of society will continue.

I am almost certain that 90% of the people complaining about “wokeness” fully accept every single past iteration of social libertinism and look in horror at societies that are illiberal. It’s way more likely that your descendants will one day look at you and judge you for being insufficiently woke than that they’ll laugh at you for being too woke.

The West has moved past the era when liberal capitalism was breaking down barriers and taboos. We are witnessing the birth of new taboos and new sacred cows that will reintroduce a strict moral order to society. We have replaced blasphemy against God with blasphemy against equality.

Wokeness is being enshrined into every institution, every layer of society from the family to the court system to the supermarket. Nobody with real power is making a concerted effort to push back against it because why would they? A mass of hypersensitive hedonistic individualists are easy to sell shit to and unlikely to revolt. Nobody in power has any incentive to bother stopping it, and many are actively encouraging it.

I don’t mean to be a wet blanket, but I see so many people confidently talking about how any day now there’ll be a backlash and society will revert to the 00s/90s/80s/70s/whatever other era they idealize. They use the same tone people did when saying that Tumblrites with crazy ideas like “white privilege” would never get a foothold in mainstream society.

What will actually happen is that what seems absurd today will seem normal tomorrow, and what seems like common sense will be reviled.

There is no getting off this wild ride.

I get where you are coming from, and I don't necessarily disagree, but things also become tempered with time. Ten years ago feminism was the peak of woke-culture, which attracted many narcissistic women, which, in turn, resulted in cultural push back from e.g. Men's Rights Activists (who are equally cow-prone). In the end, I think that that battle is evening out now - people who push feminism ideology are typically much more nuanced about it (I don't hear "down with the patriarchy - women are inherently worse across all outcomes compared to men" nearly as much). People are also beginning to discuss situations in which men are disadvantaged without ALWAYS bringing it back to "the patriarchy" and how problems men face are ultimately the result of oppression against women.

What I am saying is that, this whole transgender thing will probably fizzle out in the way that you are suggesting (i.e., transgenderism is much more integrated with the rest of the culture), but I also think it will it will be decently nuanced (e.g., people will readily accept males and females doing things/dressing outside of their gender roles without any issue), but people will not be so willing to support obvious predators etc. I also think that the non-binary shit is a cultural trend - it is so contradictory that ultimately it will fizzle to a more nuanced thing where "non-binary" individuals just say that they are men/women, but may change the way that they dress on a day-to-day basis.

I mean, there is a genuine reason why so many people support trans rights for the say reason that people support gay rights - you sort of say, "well, it's not my business, and I should respect this person as a human". But then it just becomes this big political point and all of the attention really brings out the lunatics, because they know that they are protected etc. so they have leverage to do their nonsense. It's the "give an inch and they'll take a mile" sort of thing. I know so many neurotics who just HAPPENED to decided that they were non-binary/transgender/whatever 2-3 years ago. They were the same people who just HAPPENED to realize that they were actually "pansexual biromantic with homosexual-leaning tendencies" 6-7 years ago. Whatever the next woke trend is 5 years from now, they will be that too I'm sure. Don't get me wrong - I fully believe that there are many genuinely degenerate troons who would have been degenerate regardless - but I think that this is very amplified with all of the attention that they are getting right now.

Eventually the media spotlight will wane on troons, because people will become bored. Then, when some pervert leans over the stall to ask a 18-year-old for a tampon and they get called out, people will say, "yes, of course, they should be punished!" instead of "that is just a woman asking another woman for a tampon!" It's the whole pendulum effect. I know this sounds , but I think it's actually a pretty good prediction of what will happen - a low of the peak feminism crew are now just mocked on a cultural level.

 

[Male Idiot]

We will never come back to "normal". Moldbug wrote about it years ago, but you faggots didn't listen.

Troons and SJW insanity is here to stay, like it or not. Right wingers of tomorrow will protect pedos and troons against waves of necrophiliacs. "Listen", they will say "pedos are just normal people like you and me. And these corpse-fucking are not too bad if you think about it. I just prefer for them to do it behind closed doors in their own bedrooms". This is conservatism in 2050, you are welcome.

No, conservatism in 2050's American will either be: "Praise Allah, Peace be Upon his Prophet Muhammad" or "Xi is the greatest leader who ever lived, China is the most ancient, strongest and truest culture, and we are happy they let us serve! Communism Number Wan!"

 

[Harbinger of Kali Yuga]

It won't unless there is a major catastrophe such as war to start thinking about the necessities of survival and uniting people.

 

[Mr Cuddles]

To answer OP, all things come to an end but I imagine you meant will wokeness end in the medium term like within 15 years. The simple answer to that is I don't know and nobody does. I'm more in agreement with the pessimists ITT than the optimists as I think woke certainly has a lot of power and money behind it. It's not a decent ideology, and can't stand competition but with whats propping it up could easily last our lifetimes.

Wokeness is being propped up because it's in the financial interests of corporations to do so and the political interests of powerful people who would like to transform society into a neofuedal state. The optimists might be right that after this is achieved the true believers will be discarded but miss the point that by the time that happens we are beyond fucked. To give an analogy, yes, in 1934 the SA were destroyed after they outlived their usefulness, but that didn't mean that German lives improved thereafter. Woke is definitely a tool for subversion and one that is being utilized (imo) to dismantle post war wealth gains and reshape societal structure. This has been happening before woke came into the mainstream and woke is just the latest tactic being deployed towards this end.

For me, my main concern is not the troons or other degenerates but the main pillars of a healthy society family and community, liberty and a unifying identity are being eroded. When those are gone you will be living in hell. A hell which like all things will end but not necessarily before you do. It has happened before and it will keep on happening as long as we exist.

 

[Unyielding Stupidity]

It's no secret that America is slowly but surely collapsing in on itself, and all of the woke shit America is spewing is some of the last dying grunts it'll make before total collapse. Pretty much every "woke" cause started in the US, and was then spread out to the rest of the world from there. The rest of the world can only hope that America hurries up and dies so that it'll finally shut up for once, and stop bank-rolling progressive causes in the civilized world.

 

[Mortin Shart]

Faggots can't breed. All they can do is adopt African babies and no matter how hard you train them, that monkey is gonna chimp out. Problem solves itself.

 

[Fraiser crane]

Think

Weimar Republic​

Nigga

 

[WhiteNight]

Troons and SJW insanity is here to stay, like it or not. Right wingers of tomorrow will protect pedos and troons against waves of necrophiliacs. "Listen", they will say "pedos are just normal people like you and me. And these corpse-fucking are not too bad if you think about it. I just prefer for them to do it behind closed doors in their own bedrooms". This is conservatism in 2050, you are welcome.

 

[Mr. ShadowCreek]

Honestly the world in Idiocracy Seems better than what we're heading to right now. It seemed that racism no longer existed in the far future. But there was also no wokeness. If racism, homophobia, transphobia, etc were gone then the woke crowed wouldn't have anything to complain about and would die out.

 

[Sketch Turner]

Truth. Truth truth fucking truth.

 

[energ1a]

The current woke movement is a byproduct of the long peace, economic growth and continuous stability the west has experienced since the second world war, think of it as a delicate, exotic flower that can only survive in a hothouse with controlled humidity, watering etc, it can only survive in the good times. The fact that we've gone 70 coming up on 80 years without a major interstate conflict or really any sort of hardship until now isn't normal compared to the rest of human history, people usually have had more meaningful things to be concerned about than gender neutral bathrooms, wokism is a freak creation of the freakish times we live in, I think that if the status quo were to continue this movement would continue to persist for a long time, but things change, the world is about to revert back to the mean, and there will be things unfolding in the not too distant future that will make Covid look like a walk in the park.

People's priorities are going to get a very rude shake down, and suddenly people will find they won't care much about how many genders fit on the head of a pin.

 

[Kosher Dill]

The current woke movement is a byproduct of the long peace, economic growth and continuous stability the west has experienced since the second world war, think of it as a delicate, exotic flower that can only survive in a hothouse with controlled humidity, watering etc, it can only survive in the good times.

I don't think this is historical. Woke movements seem to typically start off as radicalized splinters from larger societal movements that lose steam. The original wave of woke in the late '70s was a fringe offshoot of the American civil rights movement, and the late-'00s revival has roots in the end of the libertines-versus-fundamentalists culture war. While the '00s were perhaps "the good times", the '70s most assuredly were not.

 

[HERO_V]

I am expecting the Chinese to further fund Woke America and purge its Whiteness.

This place will become extremely uncomfortable for the non-niggerfaggots in the house.

You say Chinese, but don't forget about our "greatest ally" and their descendants. They love funding everything that completely destabilizes flourishing societies. It's kind of historical for them.

 

[Marissa Moira]

It's a literal corporate trend, if you give it no attention, it doesn't exist and has zero effect on your life.

 

[The Curmudgeon]

To answer OP, all things come to an end but I imagine you meant will wokeness end in the medium term like within 15 years. The simple answer to that is I don't know and nobody does. I'm more in agreement with the pessimists ITT than the optimists as I think woke certainly has a lot of power and money behind it. It's not a decent ideology, and can't stand competition but with whats propping it up could easily last our lifetimes.

Wokeness is being propped up because it's in the financial interests of corporations to do so and the political interests of powerful people who would like to transform society into a neofuedal state. The optimists might be right that after this is achieved the true believers will be discarded but miss the point that by the time that happens we are beyond fucked. To give an analogy, yes, in 1934 the SA were destroyed after they outlived their usefulness, but that didn't mean that German lives improved thereafter. Woke is definitely a tool for subversion and one that is being utilized (imo) to dismantle post war wealth gains and reshape societal structure. This has been happening before woke came into the mainstream and woke is just the latest tactic being deployed towards this end.

For me, my main concern is not the troons or other degenerates but the main pillars of a healthy society family and community, liberty and a unifying identity are being eroded. When those are gone you will be living in hell. A hell which like all things will end but not necessarily before you do. It has happened before and it will keep on happening as long as we exist.

Same here. I'm leaning more on the pessimistic side. Even when the brunt of it goes away, we'll probably have residual strains of wokeness lurking around for a while. It will take time and who knows what else to put wokeness, social justice, and all related ideologies out of their misery.