It actually reads very much like the words of an abuser: "You are a liar. Your lived experiences never happened. You have never been wronged. You are the wrongdoer. You are the bad person here."
This is why I despise liberal feminists with an utter passion. They just don't give a shit about what women actually go through; they want to girl boss it. Women in India being denied access to their grandmother's funeral because she's on her period is second to a 6'4 white male with shit makeup who wants to invade a space about witchcraft, of all fucking things.
I bit the bullet and got banned from BadWomen'sAnatomy for reminding them of their crass comments about telling women to change in the bathroom stalls if a male was present in a space allotted to them. But oh no, they're going to complain about the 'country girls make do' NSFW comic, which, IMHO, is pretty funny.
When conservatives wonder why there isn't a peep from feminists when women lose their sports and trans rapists are being deliberately covered up, libfems are why. They will repeatedly deny it to your face while complaining about the patriarchy.
I have absolutely no patience for them and frankly enjoy seeing them get prissy when a TERF like me calls them out.
KS is "vanilla" compared to some of the other crazies at this point. I talk about how people should visit AO3 to see HOW cumbrained these women have become, but I think it's easier to share some examples (notice kudos and bookmarks of these works also):
This seems like a clear case of schizophrenia or some other psychosis
Ok, refer to the start of my post because, yes, there are coomers writing that. But more importantly, that earlier one about jewish woman with nazi fetishes and the whole argument of the troon is question is the usual drivel these women post to justify openly writing about their fetishes in their fights against disgusted teenagers on twitter (th whole "anti-shipper" vs "pro-shipper" thing that's a subset of the larger "anti vs pro kink debate") and what I am going to say about it is that I find it very annoying how the people in these debates refuse to acknowledge there is a difference between writing fiction that deals with themes/includes like rape and other forms of violence and a work that is only written to masturbate to the thought of a 5 year old being raped by his father (granted, the teenagers also often don't point that diffrence either so it's just extreme arguments a lot of the time).
Not going to pass a moral judgement either way but it's something that almost always happens in those conversations, there is a difference between a work that contains dark themes and a work that is made to masturbate over those dark themes
The MHA fic you mentioned? The author has a Twitter. This she/her asexual seems to have no issue writing about a literal child being groomed and penetrated by an adult. Worst of all, the fic features in some of those 'Best of the Best' collections when better fics with actual original plotlines and romance between adults scarcely get a word in.
Here's a sample of that disgusting fic.
Like walking through a brook, Ground Zero slinks in the direction of the woman, keeping his feet light, weaving through the civilians. His nose catches a whiff of a deliciously sugary scent, like a ripe fruit, standing out from the rest. Like peaches or pears. Topped with whipped cream. And the hero was salivating because under his diet, he possesses an undeniable sweet-tooth he’s too ashamed to admit he’s been cajoled by more than once. He follows the aroma until he reaches her. The woman was petite and slim, with long green hair and jade for eyes. But the scent wasn’t hers.
“Please, sir!” She begs again, voice cracking. There’s a bundle of nerves in her arms, hiccupping lowly against her chest, struggling hard not to cry. To stay brave. Like a hero, “Please take him first!”
The scent. It was the boy’s.
Fledging anxious pheromones emanate from the little boy in partial waves. So rich. So pure, so crisp and uninhibited. The hero was woozy. Intoxicated. He craves a taste so bad. Mechanically, he scopes out to pick the little tot in his arms. Two big and bright green eyes gleam at him over round, stardust cheeks, overall face shaded by a mop of green curls, and Ground Zero’s throat vibrates from a self-controlled rumble. He clenches his fists, gulps down the saliva that threatens to drip from his mouth and manages to smother the heat bubbling in his crux.
“‘round Zeo’!” The boy pipes, honey dripping from his voice.
Oh fuck.
How was the hero supposed to control himself with a look like that? A look of unadulterated, naïve reverence that he could exploit to his heart’s content. Make him do whatever he wished for. Like open his legs, bare his ass for his alpha’s daily meal of sweet peaches and cream, suck him in clean and fully. Expose his neck. The innocence in those eyes did little work of concealing the virgin carnality waiting to be reaped.
One look. It was all Ground Zero needed to know that the pup was made to be a perfect omega. He could feel it. Everything the kid exudes testifies it. Katsuki’s mouth gapes, froth bubbling, teeth baring as the urge to claim, before it’s too late, overrides his mind.
He wants it all for himself.
But the boy was too young for the hero to claim as his.
I have read lots of those 'Dead Dove, Do Not Eat' fics, including one where Ezio is used as a human toilet and has three men piss inside his asshole, as well as having a huge turd dropped in his mouth. The author thought that was the sexiest thing ever. However, kid fics like that disturb me. That's a literal fucking toddler you're raping.
As for the 'author is trans' bullshit, I've been seeing that more often. I mentioned before how characters who cross-dressed in their universe were suddenly written as trans men, such as Maria Thorpe. Women who wanted to be knights and warriors and were disallowed are now AcTuAlLy men because they 'fit the bill of what it means to be trans today.'
The ABO fandom really did a good job bringing that shit to the mainstream. I don't talk about this a lot, but ABO genuinely does have a misogyny problem, even when it's written by these urban white girls who call themselves enbies. In virtually every fic, no female character is present or is deliberately placed at the back. She is either a support character or there to validate the unhealthy dynamics. The men get anal periods and need to take hormone blockers so alphas won't rape them like male ducks do in the wild. They also get pregnant, despite females being present, making you wonder why sexual dimorphism even AROSE when everyone can potentially get pregnant.
AO3 once sent me a complaint from an author that I was being transphobic because I asked why this particular author, who truly had a trans fetish, did not make the characters a true hermaphrodite/third sex. Guess being original is too hard.
Have become? That type of stuff has always been around in fandom (and probably in other similar female-dominated creative spaces), AO3 just makes it easier to catalogue and search for.
Also "original male dog character" made me laugh for a long time.
I stay out of discussions to do with this topic because usually it makes me want to cut my eyes out, but IMO it's less about not acknowledging the difference, and more about an acknowledgment of how difficult it would be to recognize that difference on a practical level.
Because once you make the deciding factor "is someone likely to masturbate to this?' it's really hard to draw an exact line. There's a lot of stuff that clearly falls on either side, obviously, like some of the fics whose summaries you posted, but I can see why AO3 wouldn't want to try to enforce a rule like that, because a site of that size would immediately get bogged down with increasingly traumatized moderators scouring hundreds of fics every day for signs of author horniness around any rape/violence/incest/etc, plus constant author complaints when their fic was removed for being too horny when actually they were not horny when they wrote it, others complaining about lack of sufficient horny removal, etc. I am not exaggerating when I say I could see that killing the site.
The hands-off "it's all text and no one real is getting hurt, so just tag your depravity so other people can filter" makes a lot more sense as much from a logistics standpoint as a free-speech one.
I also wonder whether a lot of the anxiety and passion of the anti-shippers is due to the fact that they are aware of the huge lurking monster of pornography (which actually does contain real people getting hurt by rape and violence) and yet realize unconsciously that fighting pornography would involve a battle out there in the big scary real non-fandom world, plus cool teenagers aren't supposed to be anti-porn, being anti-porn is for those uncool SWERF radfems.
So they redirect their anxiety and anger towards an object that does not make them feel depressed and powerless, but rather feels like a battle they can conceivably win (fics about K-pop bands getting raped on AO3).
I'd like to add this: I have a love-hate relationship with AO3. I do like how you can find all manners of content you wouldn't find on FFnet and you can post gifs, different skins to add a Medieval document or a pseudo-text message. You can filter what explicit content you want to see and see what is the most popular fic there is in any given fandom.
However, the culture is something else. It's Journal of Transformative Works, if you've ever seen it, is filled with the post modern bullshit you've come to expect from Libs of TikTok.
Here's one paper on how an actual person on a live TV show was queerbaiting the audience because he was undergoing a bisexual awakening. Maybe mind your own fucking business? This is not a fictional character, this is a real person and that is slander. The author sounds like a Roman Emperor reject.
You can also read one on how The Last Kingdom is really a metaphor for unity under Brexit, even though ALL of the people back then would be shocked to see millions of people per year flooding into Britain.
There's creating a website that hosts fandom works from the ageing Adult FFnet and FFnet itself, and there's promoting a pseudo-political culture filled with people who have no real degrees and who share the exact same politics.
It screams BS because it is BS. It's actually BS in multiple ways.
Male bodies are, on average, significantly larger than female bodies, have larger lungs, are stronger, etc. These factors are all advantages in the vast majority of sports. As we can see from examples of adults who were on puberty blockers as children (Jazz Jennings, etc.) males who did not go through male puberty are still physically larger and retain those size/strength advantages over their female peers.
Male puberty makes those advantages of size and strength even more extreme. Boys grow significantly taller than their female peers, have longer limbs (significant in many sports), are stronger on average, have more lung capacity, longer stride, etc. all of which is very relevant when it comes to sports. None of these things are reversible. A man who takes a testosterone blocker medication as an adult doesn't experience height loss or lung shrinkage.
Studies show that the average amount of strength loss after transition caps at 5% after one year and, iirc, maxes out at around 10% after three years of testosterone suppression and exogenous estrogen treatment, and does not show any sign of further decrease after that point. This is significantly less than the gap between male and female strength levels and percentages of performance difference between male and female athletes, meaning that trans-identified male athletes, even after over three years of consistent treatment with testosterone blockers and exogenous estrogen treatment, retain a significant advantage over female athletes.
Of course, this is all really common sense shit that we already knew, but it is backed up by actual science as well. The men in those tweets are literally outright lying, blatantly, and the only reason they're getting away with it is because they speak from a position of authority (seeing as white, trans-identified heterosexual males are literally the authority figures of the modern left).
(An additional point I feel is important: The twitter thread references trans-identified male athletes being allowed to compete "once the testosterone is gone," but this does not ever happen, even with testosterone blockers, and sporting groups do not expect nor require this to happen. The allowed limit for testosterone levels in trans-identified male athletes is several times the average testosterone levels of female athletes - trans-identified male athletes in the Olympics, for example, must bring their testosterone levels to less than 10nmol/liter in order to compete, but the average testosterone level for natal females is between 0.5-2.4nmol/liter. Trans-identified male athletes are allowed to compete with levels of testosterone in their system around ten times higher than that of their female peers. In fact, multiple natal female athletes at the Tokyo Olympics were banned from participation because their natural testosterone levels exceeded 5nmol/liter... HALF of the level allowed for trans-identified male athletes!)
Also, dude is lying about the orbital bone thing. First of all, Fallon Fox did not just break Tamikka Brents's orbital, he also split her scalp open to the point that she needed seven staples put in her head, and gave her a serious concussion. But more importantly, fractured orbitals only make up around 14% of eye injuries in MMA specifically, making them a minority both of eye related injuries and overall injuries in MMA; Additionally, while I can't find statistics to back me up on this one, at a guess I would say that orbital fractures are probably even more rare in female MMA fights and the vast majority of that 14% take place in male MMA fights.
Trans-identified males and their activists always lie. Always. If they tell you the sky is blue, go outside and check.
Your comment reminded me of the Jangles video where he tried to say Emma Hilton was a bigoted, dumb TERF in much the same way DuncanCantDie did.
Predictably, reading his TERF document showed Mr. Two Degrees here (who thinks Abby from TLOU II can be as big as she is without constant protein sources) revealed that he had not read a single fucking document and that ALL OF THEM SHOWED DIFFERENCES BETWEEN MALES AND FEMALES.
This video is a response to "Transgender Women in the Female Category of Sport: Perspectives on Testosterone Suppression and Performance Advantage" by Drs. E...
He also had one on another trans sports book. Again, he says nothing about science yet accuses Emma Hilton again of not being a sports scientist when she is a developmental biologist which involves the same studies of the body.
This is what he said.
The vast majority of the strength difference between cis women, trans women, and trans men came down to height. Taller people usually have more absolute strength than shorter people because they have to carry more muscle on their larger frame. You’ll notice that the trans women had less strength and muscle mass than the cis men, which means you can’t assume trans women are a representative sample of “biological males.” When they normalized for height, the difference between trans and cis women was drastically reduced. Not only that, but none of the participants in the study were exercising, which someone with a basic understanding of exercise science would know is probably why the trans men in the study didn’t gain much strength or muscle.
Males are taller than females on average, Jangles, and males will have more pound-for-pound power than women will even if they are at the same height. This is his script.
Mr. Two Degrees honestly believes that transwomen are not male and lose all their male advantages because they go on horse piss pills. He throws away the Joanna Harper study and says the website boysvswomen is 'right wing' even when it uses NATIONAL DATA.
He's such a liar and a fucking misogynist, with man tits and gray hair despite not even being in his forties yet.
OH, one more thing: that Roman Emperor dude I was talking about? A troon. Who wrote papers about...scratch n sniffs.
Transgender Men are not pressuring you to have sex.
Transgender Men are not pressuring you to be attracted to their genitals.
Transgender Men are not pressuring you to be attracted to genitals you're not attracted to.
Transgender Men are not labelling you transphobic for not being attracted to specific men or genital configurations.
You are being identified as transphobic for rejecting that transgender men are men, and for weaponising this BS narrative of "I'm being blackmailed and shamed for not wanting to sex transgender men" to perpetuate a culture of Othering and "creep-jacketing" transgender people.
You know: The way the right-wing bigots did to gay men, individually and as a class, decades ago, and still do.
I'm actually genuinely confused when troons say this shit. Once upon a time, I believed that trans women were women... I didn't reject that trans women were women at all. I was never attracted to them, but that was a non-issue until my ex wife and I divorced 3 years ago. When I was off the market, I never had to say, "sorry, but I'm not interested in cock." Once I was single, oooh boy! I found myself having to defend my sexuality a lot and was pressured into accepting girlcock as well. I was most definitely labeled as transphobic for not being attracted to specific genital configurations. In fact, that's what peaked me.
Trannies need to drop the whole "genital attraction" argument. Heteros are attracted to the opposite sex and homos are attracted to the same sex... the only time genitals make or break shit is if they're stinky or deformed.
From my experience (yes, I too was a sad 14 year old girl and reading fanfiction at some time, as did all my female friends) that is exactly it. They're overwhelmingly women who are into men. But they don't feel comfortable with most of the straight romance/sexual material there is. Sure, there is a sexual aspect to it as they find the idea of men fucking each other hot, similar to how men feel about lesbian porn. But a lot of it comes from a desire to see cute, romantic stories about men that has none of the baggage of sexism / gender roles/ unequal positions / violent and fucked up shit they might have already seen in straight romances (and porn). It's both funny and sad how pretty much all of the male characters written by these girls act and sound exactly like girls with all the female socialisation that entails. They literally cannot find enough cool female characters / straight romances that they can really identify and feel comfortable with, so they borrow male characters. It's escapism.
I get the feeling that most FTMs are uncomfortable with the concept of heterosexuality in theory, but not in practice. I know this FTM/M couple that lives like a normal heterosexual couple, but they insist that they're a queer or gay couple. The male half of the couple insists that they're some sort of queer/gay couple. As a homosexual, I find yaoi to be silly. For one thing, it's not based on reality or addresses the reality of how male/male erotic relationships work. It assumes that homosexuals are just like heterosexuals when the reality is much different.
Sex is probably symbolic. To FTMs, sex with gay men confirms their status as men. I also find it interesting how gay men are more likely to remind FTMs that they're female. In contrast to how transbians interact with lesbians where transbians tend to dominate the conversation. Male nature/nurture is wild.
I'm actually genuinely confused when troons say this shit. Once upon a time, I believed that trans women were women... I didn't reject that trans women were women at all. I was never attracted to them, but that was a non-issue until my ex wife and I divorced 3 years ago. When I was off the market, I never had to say, "sorry, but I'm not interested in cock." Once I was single, oooh boy! I found myself having to defend my sexuality a lot and was pressured into accepting girlcock as well. I was most definitely labeled as transphobic for not being attracted to specific genital configurations. In fact, that's what peaked me.
Trannies need to drop the whole "genital attraction" argument. Heteros are attracted to the opposite sex and homos are attracted to the same sex... the only time genitals make or break shit is if they're stinky or deformed.
Two quotes comes to mind when I read this post. “... everything in the world is about sex — except sex.Sex is about power.” Along with, "Signs and symbols rule the world, not words nor laws". Trans needs monosexuals to verify their gender is the one that they claim. Sex is more metaphysical for them.
Twitter LOVES to hire troons because it allows them to pad diversity numbers without resorting to hiring any icky brown people or women. This makes it seem like the woke mob is important when in reality JK Rowling had a best selling book released this year and Netflix has gained millions of subscribers since the Chapelle special. This spineless backtracking appeals to no one.
Let's say one group (like cops/the CIA) infiltrate another (some radical revolutionary group or whatever.) The best way to tear apart such a group is to get them to do it themselves, and one tactic is to sow paranoia and get everybody thinking that everybody else is a snitch, a fed, whatever. This is (or was, I'm old) what is known as "snitch-jacketing." The term refers both to an infiltrator spreading the rumor and then members of the group foolishly repeating it.
Years back when a bunch of anarchists who were maybe associated with criminal activity in the PNW were jailed and summoned before a grand jury, they vowed to remain silent. I don't blame them; I'm not a fan of anarchism but the whole case seemed bullshitty and based on lame non-evidence.
There was a big campaign to support them. Then suddenly one of the three was released without explanation. So everyone assumed she'd ratted on people. The support around it lost momentum right away, the discourse exploded into accusations and people gossiping like crazy and being really nasty about her, focus was taken off the two still in jail, and it all kind of fell apart.
She's totally disappeared since then bc there's no way she wouldn't get kicked out/harassed/her ass beat anywhere she went in that scene, forever. (Not an exaggeration: anarchists are known to wave off pedophilia ffs, but snitches get stitches.)
Anyway, maybe she did talk. But I kind of doubt it? This girl was seriously committed, it was her whole community and identity and life, and she had a ton of support. And the disintegration of support was so effective. So the first thing I thought when observing it was, "aha. Snitch-jacketing."
So from that, I'm assuming this creep is using the version "creep-jacketing" to mean "don't repeat stories and rumors about troons being creeps!! It's false and bad for the community!"
Except in troon world, the stories are fucking true.
The "sick of afab and amab" reddit post makes me think how you can keep coming up with new terms to obscure something, but people will always find a way to talk about it.
I look forward to the rise, infiltration, fall, and deletion of the first labeled "AFAB lesbian" sub-reddit. The mental beating troons will do do explain how they belong in "afab spaces" will be fun to read.
I’m surprised Nattie Rosenbum hasn’t been posted yet. He’s a degenerate Jewish tranny with a penchant for making saleswomen uncomfortable when buying bras and underwear.
Nattie:
Holy shit he has no idea that this is how women talk to babies, animals, and retards, and he is definitely not a woman and probably isn’t an animal.
Here, let me translate. This interaction if true meant one of these:
”Aww look at this fat ugly retard, let me say something vaguely complimentary because I have been indoctrinated.”
or
”Look at this fat ugly retard, the latest in an escalating trend of deviants coming into my store and forcing me to pretend they’re a woman, let me say something vaguely complimentary because I have learned from previous encounters that this is the most economical way to extract myself from this situation.”
In a Victoria’s Secret, in *Pink* no less, which is meant to be for teenage girls. Do the sizes even get this fucking big in Pink OR VS? I truly don’t know.
If calling you AMAB is transphobic then the problem with misgendering was never about being incorrect, it was about breaking momentarily disturbing the fantasy.
The "sick of afab and amab" reddit post makes me think how you can keep coming up with new terms to obscure something, but people will always find a way to talk about it.
I look forward to the rise, infiltration, fall, and deletion of the first labeled "AFAB lesbian" sub-reddit. The mental beating troons will do do explain how they belong in "afab spaces" will be fun to read.
Yeah it's pointless because they're not banning the words, they're trying to ban the concepts behind them.
You can say men and women, but that's offensive.
So you say male and female, but that's offensive.
So you say AMAB and AFAB, but that's offensive.
So you say penis people and vagina people, but that's offensive.
So you say people without uteruses and people without testicles
etc, etc, etc
So long as there's an underlying reality behind these terms, it won't matter which word is used because they're fighting the concepts, not the specific terms. In the end, they will never be women, no matter which term is used.
It would be like banning "fat people" or "short people". These realities don't dissappear if you ban the terms used for them.
Yeah it's pointless because they're not banning the words, they're trying to ban the concepts behind them.
You can say men and women, but that's offensive.
So you say male and female, but that's offensive.
So you say AMAB and AFAB, but that's offensive.
So you say penis people and vagina people, but that's offensive.
So you say people without uteruses and people without testicles
etc, etc, etc
So long as there's an underlying reality behind these terms, it won't matter which word is used because they're fighting the concepts, not the specific terms. In the end, they will never be women, no matter which term is used.
It would be like banning "fat people" or "short people". These realities don't dissappear if you ban the terms used for them.
Obviously generalizing but it feels like the "gay" TIFs who do transition are more of the "tryhard dudebro" type. Or if we follow the handy dandy FTM chart from earlier, the Chaser or MRA type. HSTS TIFs are like HSTS TIMs, just weirdly fucked up gays who unknowingly put themselves through what is essentially conversion therapy, no doubt to escape some sort of trauma stemming from being victim to homophobia. It's why they're usually the only tolerable breed of trannies. Ironically their goal is to be less of a "degenerate" and more normal by pretending they can have a normal hetero life.
Reccomended reading: Conservative Men in Conservative Dresses by Amy Bloom. Published in 2002, available from catholicintelligenceblog on wordpress. A funny, informative, and short read.
Seconding the recommendation on Amy Bloom's 'Conservative Men in Conservative Dresses.' (see attachment) Also recommend checking out this late 90s crossdressing documentary 'All Dressed Up and Nowhere to Go." It's a fascinating preview of what was to come:
On the topic of conservative men in dresses, a fairly recent study (see attachment) on the political attitudes of LGBTQ found transwomen even more socially conservative than "cishet" men, lmao. Transwomen were also more likely to identify as feminists than any other group, including women, while being the least likely group to actually support women's issues:
I have a 5 o'clock shadow immediately after an against-the-grain, baby smooth shave. What's hilarious is that I look like a smurf right after I shave because the blueish tint from the shadow is more apparent, lol.
I get the feeling that most FTMs are uncomfortable with the concept of heterosexuality in theory, but not in practice. I know this FTM/M couple that lives like a normal heterosexual couple, but they insist that they're a queer or gay couple. The male half of the couple insists that they're some sort of queer/gay couple. As a homosexual, I find yaoi to be silly. For one thing, it's not based on reality or addresses the reality of how male/male erotic relationships work. It assumes that homosexuals are just like heterosexuals when the reality is much different.
Yaoi is "silly" if you interpret it as trying to be realistic, yes. But it’s perfective effective if you consider its true purpose: erotica for women to consume in order to experience sexual pleasure.
I point this out mainly because women who decide they are trans after consuming yaoi are not just being fooled by an inaccurate depiction of gay males that they happened to stumble upon. These women's revelation that they are "male" came about because they were drawn to something produced entirely for and by women, based on what women like and are interested in. Fucking clown world, man.
Oh in 2020 I had to do some online bra shopping due to the pandemic and the number of men shoving their chest fat into push up bras in the customer review images was….higher than expected.
Imagine being so pornsick that you feel compelled to play out your fetish on Amazon.com.
Yeah I have to say this is a new level of degeneracy the troons are whipping out. It feels gross and Amazon should remove these pictures because it is so clearly fetishistic! Like these nasty dudes are totally getting off on the fact that randos are seeing their kinks...
As trannies are a horrible amalgamation of man & woman that shouldn't exist. So are these shoes an abomination before the eyes of God. We all know there are only two binary categories of shoes. Patent Snake Skin & Pastel Micro suede. There is no spectrum in-between.