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For whatever reason, Mumei's Planet Zoo stream had live translations:
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(At least it's traditional Chinese, not simplified West Taiwan writing.)

I've seen Gura get live TLs for various languages, but this is the first time I've seen any other HoloEN get them (not counting when they stream in Japanese).
 
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paule said:
I know it is numberfagging and was discussed before but these current YT live numbers are crazy.
Luna's anniversary live peaked at only 13k, Holox with only a few thousand viewers (even if they coole down that is too sudden/too little) and even Gura only got 13,7k in her last stream.
Do you think this impacts their revenue or were not all numbers in the past monetized to begin with (because of adblocker usage)? Holostats
In other news the "oh nyo" is spreading amongst the holo moms
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At this point I'm just multiplying their viewers by 2.5. But I do hope Cover is in touch with YouTube about this bullshittery. Just look at the current Botan, Subaru, and Suisei numbers.

Do I think it has an effect on their revenue? Yes and no, I don't think it has an influence on how much their earn (if it truly is AdBlock users, which is still unconfirmed because fuck YouTube's lack of transparency). But I'm sure it does influence their streams popping up on people's YouTube Homepages and recommended videos while the stream is live. Once it's over the numbers seem to normalize after a bit. But I have a hard time believing Luna's Anniversary only has 20k total viewers after it's over, but we'll see if those numbers become more realistic in a few hours.

As unrealistic as it is, at this point I wish they would just gradually move over to some proprietary streaming server and use the 30% of YouTube's cut to incentivize people by giving viewers benefits to move over. But again, the chances of that are non-existent. Servers would be an issue for ID and EN members, you would have a hard time cross-advertising and getting new members unless they also continue to stream on YouTube amongst a plethora of other issues.

Long story short fuck YouTube and the horse it rode in on. Hololive is literally responsible for 8 of the top 10 Superchatted channels of all time, and they continuously treat them like garbage.
 
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paule said:
I know it is numberfagging and was discussed before but these current YT live numbers are crazy.
Luna's anniversary live peaked at only 13k, Holox with only a few thousand viewers (even if they coole down that is too sudden/too little) and even Gura only got 13,7k in her last stream.
Do you think this impacts their revenue or were not all numbers in the past monetized to begin with (because of adblocker usage)? Holostats
In other news the "oh nyo" is spreading amongst the holo moms
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Tatsunoko said:
At this point I'm just multiplying their viewers by 2.5. But I do hope Cover is in touch with YouTube about this bullshittery. Just look at the current Botan, Subaru, and Suisei numbers.

Do I think it has an effect on their revenue? Yes and no, I don't think it has an influence on how much their earn (if it truly is AdBlock users, which is still unconfirmed because fuck YouTube's lack of transparency). But I'm sure it does influence their streams popping up on people's YouTube Homepages and recommended videos while the stream is live. Once it's over the numbers seem to normalize after a bit. But I have a hard time believing Luna's Anniversary only has 20k total viewers, but we'll see if those numbers become more realistic in a few hours.

As unrealistic as it is, at this point I wish they would just gradually move over to some proprietary streaming server and use the 30% of YouTube's cut to incentivize people by giving viewers benefits to move over. But again, the chances of that are non-existent. Servers would be an issue for ID and EN members, you would have a hard time cross-advertising and getting new members unless they also continue to stream on YouTube amongst a plethora of other issues.

Long story short fuck YouTube and the horse it rode in on. Hololive is literally responsible for the 8 of the top 10 Superchatted channels of all time, and they continuously treat them like garbage.
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Yeah, Youtube CCV is fucked right now but everything else (VOD, SCs, and even Poll numbers lol) are correct although you do get bullshit like 2k viewers but 5k Poll answers in 1 minute

But at the end of the day, cope, seethe and dilate, VShojo are now the Queens on ENVtubers
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Live concurrent viewer counts were fake from the very start. A lot of the time it's not even YouTube's fault in particular. It's likely that many viewers aren't counted because they're on a different shard (across the ocean on another server). Most streamers are effected by this on some level. Polls will often have twice as many votes than concurrent viewers.
 
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Tatsunoko said:
Long story short fuck YouTube and the horse it rode in on. Hololive is literally responsible for 8 of the top 10 Superchatted channels of all time, and they continuously treat them like garbage.
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This is literally affecting all streamers on YouTube, it's just not as noticeable. Yes, this is not something that should be happening, but it's also not a direct attack on Hololive or 'treating them like garbage' unless the wish is for them to be given special treatment.

Whatever possessed Susan to start vetting subscribers and viewcounts based on arbitrary garbage needs to be addressed, though. Unsubscribing people from accounts because you don't meet the criteria to be considered a real person by the algorithm is some horrifying dystopian bullshit.
 
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I wanted to use this clip as an example of how Holo clippers managed to game the algorithm of their videos (as per one of my previous post), but then I was distracted by the physics of the current 3D models. That falling effect is hilarious, don't know they actually have that
 
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Laplus' roommate has a twitch account that's not listed on her twitter https://www.twitch.tv/nakaokadesu
Last stream was 16 hours ago https://www.twitch.tv/nakaokadesu/schedule (https://archive.md/qO3Wo) so it's getting used, however she's disabled vods, so you would need to either catch the streams live or use an automated archiver.

A number of anonfiles uploads linked in this thread are dead.

Edit: Image courtesy of /vt/
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And indeed, her channel has no join button as of right now. https://archive.md/2LYco
https://twitter.com/LaplusDarknesss/status/1478364200934440960 (https://archive.md/bhvyF)
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お客様のチャンネルは収益化の資格要件を満たしていないと判断されました
TL: It has been determined that your channel does not fulfill the monetization requirements.
 
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What Bubble said:
Laplus' roommate has a twitch account that's not listed on her twitter https://www.twitch.tv/nakaokadesu
Last stream was 16 hours ago https://www.twitch.tv/nakaokadesu/schedule (https://archive.md/qO3Wo) so it's getting used, however she's disabled vods, so you would need to either catch the streams live or use an automated archiver.

A number of anonfiles uploads linked in this thread are dead.

Edit: Image courtesy of /vt/
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And indeed, her channel has no join button as of right now. https://archive.md/2LYco
https://twitter.com/LaplusDarknesss/status/1478364200934440960 (https://archive.md/bhvyF)
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お客様のチャンネルは収益化の資格要件を満たしていないと判断されました
TL: It has been determined that your channel does not fulfill the monetization requirements.
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Strange, I looked through every single Hololive channels and all of them still have their membership with the exception of Coco. Wonder what Laplus did this time, or it's just YT's bullshittery again
 
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What Bubble said:
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お客様のチャンネルは収益化の資格要件を満たしていないと判断されました
TL: It has been determined that your channel does not fulfill the monetization requirements.
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Fascinating. She meets all of the raw requirements for monetisation, which means either the algorithm or a real person has determined that her content has breached YT's policies.

I don't watch her so I couldn't offer an informed opinion as to what it could be, but I can say that I watched a stream where Rindou Mikoto put Gundou Mirei in a missionary position and their channels survived, so it's probably a mistake.
 
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Scuttle said:
Fascinating. She meets all of the raw requirements for monetisation, which means either the algorithm or a real person has determined that her content has breached YT's policies.

I don't watch her so I couldn't offer an informed opinion as to what it could be, but I can say that I watched a stream where Rindou Mikoto put Gundou Mirei in a missionary position and their channels survived, so it's probably a mistake.
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Her reaction stream to Koyori's ASMR was pretty cursed but that was a few weeks ago (before monetisation I think). Something like this shouldn't ban you retroactively or does it?
 
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SmugPeko said:
Current state of numberfagging.

Lot of vtuber having hard time getting their waiting room number.
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"oy vey do you really think you can finally escape from the machinations of the western propaganda machine by solely consuming otaku-related shit like vtubers on my platform? Think again, chud. First I will demoralize your oshi by throttling their viewcounts, then I will demonitize their channels and hold their income illegally. I will do all of these and there's literally nothing you can do about it. Now watch this video about climate change I recommended to you for the 40th time"
 
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