YouTube Historians/HistoryTube/PopHistory

[Corpun]

I am sure these people love Eisenhower using troops to forcibly break up anti-integration protesters.

Responses to intense male friendship:

Chauvinistic and homophobic conservative: Lol gay
Gender-abolishing and LGBT activist Liberals: Yay gay

Random tomb with two male skeletons in it: Must've been gay lovers, no other answer.

 

[Slap47]

I am sure these people love Eisenhower using troops to forcibly break up anti-integration protesters.

Random tomb with two male skeletons in it: Must've been gay lovers, no other answer.

Find mass graves with grievous battle wounds -> Wow, they had S&M poly partners even back in the day.

 

[Flaming Insignias]

Random tomb with two male skeletons in it: Must've been gay lovers, no other answer.

Random question: do we know of any “tomb guardians” in history? You know, a warrior buried within the tomb of his liege or in a grave adjacent to them for reasons pertaining to duty? Seems like something that I would presume would've happened at least once, and a perfect example of something that would be declared to be gay by agenda-focused archeologists.

 

[Corpun]

Random question: do we know of any “tomb guardians” in history? You know, a warrior buried within the tomb of his liege or in a grave adjacent to them for reasons pertaining to duty? Seems like something that I would presume would've happened at least once, and a perfect example of something that would be declared to be gay by agenda-focused archeologists.

Not that I am aware of, but I geerally am interested in European, Egyptian, and Middle Eastern history. There are alsways spiritual guardians for example. A lot fo tombs in Ancient Egypt had various figurines for the afterlife, quite a few of those would have been meant as guards for the buried persons belongings. The Terracotta Army was meant to guard that chinese emepror's tomb as well.

I know in the Eurasian steppe a lot of tombs have been found where a person was entombed with a horse, and thankfully we aren't at a point where we decide they were lovers.

 

[The Demon Pimp of Razgriz]

Random question: do we know of any “tomb guardians” in history? You know, a warrior buried within the tomb of his liege or in a grave adjacent to them for reasons pertaining to duty? Seems like something that I would presume would've happened at least once, and a perfect example of something that would be declared to be gay by agenda-focused archeologists.

Apparently Egyptian Pharaohs were sometimes buried with their servants (so they could take them to the underworld with them), or even their wives. And of course, there are the infamous stories of people being buried with their favorite horse.

 

[Toolbox]

I hate the fucking narrative that human-animal idols discovered somehow is the equivalent of of modern fursona perversions. There's thousands of depictions of animal headed gods in ancient cultures, and not once are they portrayed fucking, mind you there's a lot of fucking in the myths, but that goes for both the fully human gods and the ones with animal limbs. If animal hybrid gods are supposed to be an ancient form of furry shit they're extremely restrained compared to their modern equivalent. Also imagine to the fucking ego of modern man to think that their personal delusions is the equivalent of a deity given non human traits to signify its divinity.

It's especially bizarre when they try to co-opt the egyptian idols, which basically all only had the head of an animal but the body of a human. If anything shouldn't weaboos take credit on that?

 

[Corpun]

Apparently Egyptian Pharaohs were sometimes buried with their servants (so they could take them to the underworld with them), or even their wives. And of course, there are the infamous stories of people being buried with their favorite horse.

You suddenly reminded me that an Islamic scholar did record a Viking funeral and noted how the wife or concubines of the deceased would ritualy drink themselves into a stupor before having their throats slit and being cremated with the deceased.

Edit: They may have been slavic Pagans or something instead, eitherway it was in Russia and a lot of vikings settled there as rulers.

 

[Plaintiff is fat]

Just learning that the guy from the YT channel "Study of Antiquity and the Middle Ages" has been hospitalized for months due to a heart infection and underwent a bunch of surgeries. From his community page:

I’m gonna lose fingers and so I’ve been attempting to use my left hand.

Damn.

His content is pretty good background audio, longer form and not "youtube-y" in delivery which I appreciate.

 

[Luigi Cadorna]

How's the The Great War channel been recently? I really haven't watched it since Indy moved to WW2 and am curious if it's worth getting back into.

 

[Stoneheart]

I like that Disney docu about the vietnam war...

 

[Corpun]

How's the The Great War channel been recently? I really haven't watched it since Indy moved to WW2 and am curious if it's worth getting back into.

The host isn't an Indy but the content is pretty good regardless. I think right now they are talking about the events in the years preceding the war. Lot of ebegging due to YouTube fucking them over though.

 

[Chris Mclean]

Breadtube holds the paradoxical view that history is not written by the winner because there's not enough pushback against narratives sympathetic to the axis, but also supporting the idea that 20th century history is in dire need of massive historical revision because the west has since the war been in charge of the post war narrative. The only reason why the axis narrative prevails is because of the desire for revising the post war narrative.

I think the problem breadtube has is that too much focus has been given to the axis narrative and not to the Soviets. Good luck with that I guess, I think besides "hurrah, fascists defeated" the Soviets didn't have much of a narrative. During Stalin it was all thanks to great dear leader, but then with Kruschev and de-stalinization that was no longer the case. The Soviets never seemed to agree on if the allies were just in the way or even actively supporting the axis against communism, and since the fall of the Soviet Union the Russians have done their best to remove any communist narrative from the Great patriotic war.

Good luck with that in europe is all i can say even tough most countries here have hate speech laws there is one country you are allowed to discriminate against and that is the russians.

Take super popular band Sabaton:
Edit: Note that The royal guard was a song that came out mid 2021 in both Swedish and English.

SABATON - The Royal Guard (Official Music Video)

The Official Music Video for The Royal Guard by Sabaton.➞ EXCLUSIVE Merch for The Royal Guard: http://sabat.one/TRGMerchYouTube➞ SUBSCRIBE for more Sabaton: ...

www.youtube.com

Sabaton had planned a cooperation with the Swedish Armed Forces for the 500th anniversary of the Swedish Royal Guard (the Guard even issued a official request to the band about the cooperation), but it was stopped due to political pressure put on the Swedish Guard and the Swedish Armed Forces. What was problematic for the politicians, was the fact that Sabaton played a concert on the Crimean Peninsula in 2015 which was organized by a motorcycle gang "Night Wolves" closely affiliated with the Russian president Vladimir Putin, according to a statement issued by the Swedish Armed Forces, "politics and music are connected when it comes to that type of gig".[11][12]

Pär: "(...) To work with Sabaton was considered to be too controversial."[13]

Joakim Brodén: "But as usual, it stopped at the political level. It is as if someone is thinking: "Sabaton, you have sung about Swedish history and have also played a lot in Russia, you are politically dangerous". It's so sad, the fear of Russians clearly lives on. We know that a stop was made from a higher place, but we do not know how high."[14]

 

[Übertroon]

Proving further that youtube hobby historians are a plague youtube decided to drop this video in my recommended list

Channel seems to be dedicated to forced jokes, exaggerated accents, and a promotion of historical revisionism, but a version that desperately wants to downplay any significance Germany had in the war... for some reason. One can probably gleam from the segment where he criticizes the BBC for favoring the tories exactly where his politics lie.

The video uses a lot of assumptions and half truths to present a hypothesis that has no facts behind it and merely rely on presuming everyone involved having the worst intentions.
That hypothesis being that the Horten Ho 229 was a piece of shit, and that the people involved in making it were all lying when they claimed it was planned to have stealth capabilities. You know, to own the wehraboos.
See the problem is that while true that the design of the Horten Ho 229 and later stealth fighters were likely a coincidence rather than a direct inspiration, it is then a far jump to then claim that the Horten Ho was never meant to avoid radar detection.
The youtuber presumes that all the nazi scientists were merely looking to make money, and therefore everything they said was a lie. In fact he goes so far as to claim all the former nazis were lying out of their asses to make good careers and good money. Which is weird considering he lumps in men like Gerd von Rundstedt who died penniless,
The video never answers why it was paramount for the Americans to keep as many of them out of Soviet hands as possible if so many of them were just stumbling buffoons with no worth.
It claims the Horten brothers lied to China about the plane's supposed role as a stealth fighter as they were simply looking to make money and the Smithsonian could not find traces of the supposed stealth coating the brothers referenced.
Problem is that Reimar Horten presented the plane as a stealth fighter to the Chinese in 1945, so rather immediately after the war, it would not be possible for them to piggyback on already existing technology at the time. It was the Chinese who offered the brothers work, not the brothers trying to persuade their way in. The brothers not going to China as Walter Horten elected to stay in Germany after the war. And you're reaching conclusions if you presume that just because the prototype had never been coated that it was never planned to do so later. We know for a fact that the Germans were the first to begin developing stealth coating with the Sumpf and Schornsteinfeger coating used on naval vessels. You would have to presume that worst of intentions from the Horten brothers even though they would have to know about the relatively recent invention of stealth coating, how it worked, and having designed a plane whose form makes it ideal as an attempt as a stealth fighter. It's kinda like accusing the designer of the Tiger tank of lying for stating that they were planning to use a anti magnetic coating on their tank just because you couldn't find Zimmerit on a unfinished tiger tank.

I've been noticing more and more lately where not only hobby historians, but actual historians as well are consistently presuming the worst intentions in situations where historical documentation is lacking, and you rely a lot on personal accounts. It's not wrong that the capabilities of the Horten Ho 229 has oft been exaggerated in fiction, being presented as a futuristic super jet capable of demolishing modern fighter jets. But it's ludicrous to lump the Horten Ho 229 in with nazi UFOs and doomsday clocks when we already know the Germans had the technology, and there is little reason to doubt the Horten brothers when they spoke about the plans for it to have stealth capabilities

 

[Bayard Rustin]

If any of you care, Cody explained his political views/positions here:

https://twitter.com/AltHistoryHub/status/1223215082542333952

https://twitter.com/AltHistoryHub/status/1223214404067610627

 

[Flaming Insignias]

Proving further that youtube hobby historians are a plague youtube decided to drop this video in my recommended list

Channel seems to be dedicated to forced jokes, exaggerated accents, and a promotion of historical revisionism, but a version that desperately wants to downplay any significance Germany had in the war... for some reason. One can probably gleam from the segment where he criticizes the BBC for favoring the tories exactly where his politics lie.

The video uses a lot of assumptions and half truths to present a hypothesis that has no facts behind it and merely rely on presuming everyone involved having the worst intentions.
That hypothesis being that the Horten Ho 229 was a piece of shit, and that the people involved in making it were all lying when they claimed it was planned to have stealth capabilities. You know, to own the wehraboos.
See the problem is that while true that the design of the Horten Ho 229 and later stealth fighters were likely a coincidence rather than a direct inspiration, it is then a far jump to then claim that the Horten Ho was never meant to avoid radar detection.
The youtuber presumes that all the nazi scientists were merely looking to make money, and therefore everything they said was a lie. In fact he goes so far as to claim all the former nazis were lying out of their asses to make good careers and good money. Which is weird considering he lumps in men like Gerd von Rundstedt who died penniless,
The video never answers why it was paramount for the Americans to keep as many of them out of Soviet hands as possible if so many of them were just stumbling buffoons with no worth.
It claims the Horten brothers lied to China about the plane's supposed role as a stealth fighter as they were simply looking to make money and the Smithsonian could not find traces of the supposed stealth coating the brothers referenced.
Problem is that Reimar Horten presented the plane as a stealth fighter to the Chinese in 1945, so rather immediately after the war, it would not be possible for them to piggyback on already existing technology at the time. It was the Chinese who offered the brothers work, not the brothers trying to persuade their way in. The brothers not going to China as Walter Horten elected to stay in Germany after the war. And you're reaching conclusions if you presume that just because the prototype had never been coated that it was never planned to do so later. We know for a fact that the Germans were the first to begin developing stealth coating with the Sumpf and Schornsteinfeger coating used on naval vessels. You would have to presume that worst of intentions from the Horten brothers even though they would have to know about the relatively recent invention of stealth coating, how it worked, and having designed a plane whose form makes it ideal as an attempt as a stealth fighter. It's kinda like accusing the designer of the Tiger tank of lying for stating that they were planning to use a anti magnetic coating on their tank just because you couldn't find Zimmerit on a unfinished tiger tank.

I've been noticing more and more lately where not only hobby historians, but actual historians as well are consistently presuming the worst intentions in situations where historical documentation is lacking, and you rely a lot on personal accounts. It's not wrong that the capabilities of the Horten Ho 229 has oft been exaggerated in fiction, being presented as a futuristic super jet capable of demolishing modern fighter jets. But it's ludicrous to lump the Horten Ho 229 in with nazi UFOs and doomsday clocks when we already know the Germans had the technology, and there is little reason to doubt the Horten brothers when they spoke about the plans for it to have stealth capabilities

One one hand, I've found this at the top of his user page:

On the other hand, I didn't watch it for fear of cringe, so it may be clickbait combined with trying to do everything he can to deny the problems with Soviet Arms.

 

[Übertroon]

One one hand, I've found this at the top of his user page:

On the other hand, I didn't watch it for fear of cringe, so it may be clickbait combined with trying to do everything he can to deny the problems with Soviet Arms.

The humor and editing is potential history-reddit tier shit, and does the usual youtube history thing where the sucky thing you're discussing sucks more than anything else even though anyone who has ever been in an army knows that in the army everything is a shoddy piece of shit no matter which side you're on. But at least it makes the good point that more internet historians should accept which is that none of the allies could have carried the war alone. The fact that this is lauded praise is a sad fact of the situation we find ourselves in

 

[Toolbox]

Proving further that youtube hobby historians are a plague youtube decided to drop this video in my recommended list

Channel seems to be dedicated to forced jokes, exaggerated accents, and a promotion of historical revisionism, but a version that desperately wants to downplay any significance Germany had in the war... for some reason. One can probably gleam from the segment where he criticizes the BBC for favoring the tories exactly where his politics lie.

The video uses a lot of assumptions and half truths to present a hypothesis that has no facts behind it and merely rely on presuming everyone involved having the worst intentions.
That hypothesis being that the Horten Ho 229 was a piece of shit, and that the people involved in making it were all lying when they claimed it was planned to have stealth capabilities. You know, to own the wehraboos.
See the problem is that while true that the design of the Horten Ho 229 and later stealth fighters were likely a coincidence rather than a direct inspiration, it is then a far jump to then claim that the Horten Ho was never meant to avoid radar detection.
The youtuber presumes that all the nazi scientists were merely looking to make money, and therefore everything they said was a lie. In fact he goes so far as to claim all the former nazis were lying out of their asses to make good careers and good money. Which is weird considering he lumps in men like Gerd von Rundstedt who died penniless,
The video never answers why it was paramount for the Americans to keep as many of them out of Soviet hands as possible if so many of them were just stumbling buffoons with no worth.
It claims the Horten brothers lied to China about the plane's supposed role as a stealth fighter as they were simply looking to make money and the Smithsonian could not find traces of the supposed stealth coating the brothers referenced.
Problem is that Reimar Horten presented the plane as a stealth fighter to the Chinese in 1945, so rather immediately after the war, it would not be possible for them to piggyback on already existing technology at the time. It was the Chinese who offered the brothers work, not the brothers trying to persuade their way in. The brothers not going to China as Walter Horten elected to stay in Germany after the war. And you're reaching conclusions if you presume that just because the prototype had never been coated that it was never planned to do so later. We know for a fact that the Germans were the first to begin developing stealth coating with the Sumpf and Schornsteinfeger coating used on naval vessels. You would have to presume that worst of intentions from the Horten brothers even though they would have to know about the relatively recent invention of stealth coating, how it worked, and having designed a plane whose form makes it ideal as an attempt as a stealth fighter. It's kinda like accusing the designer of the Tiger tank of lying for stating that they were planning to use a anti magnetic coating on their tank just because you couldn't find Zimmerit on a unfinished tiger tank.

I've been noticing more and more lately where not only hobby historians, but actual historians as well are consistently presuming the worst intentions in situations where historical documentation is lacking, and you rely a lot on personal accounts. It's not wrong that the capabilities of the Horten Ho 229 has oft been exaggerated in fiction, being presented as a futuristic super jet capable of demolishing modern fighter jets. But it's ludicrous to lump the Horten Ho 229 in with nazi UFOs and doomsday clocks when we already know the Germans had the technology, and there is little reason to doubt the Horten brothers when they spoke about the plans for it to have stealth capabilities

This level of revisionism is just pathetic. Next they're gonna try and discount what the paperclip scientists did for the US if they haven't already tried. One of the main principles of the flying wing shape other than it's pros in aerodynamics is its inherent stealth abilities. The spirit barely changes from this configuration beyond its digital shaping, though this design was based almost entirely on earlier American designs. Even if the plan wasn't for stealth it still would have been incredible tech for its time if it was finished.

He's also got an over hour long spergout trying to discount the A-10.

Really this guy is probably just pulling this trick for the clicks.

 

[Übertroon]

This level of revisionism is just pathetic. Next they're gonna try and discount what the paperclip scientists did for the US if they haven't already tried. One of the main principles of the flying wing shape other than it's pros in aerodynamics is its inherent stealth abilities. The spirit barely changes from this configuration beyond its digital shaping, though this design was based almost entirely on earlier American designs. Even if the plan wasn't for stealth it still would have been incredible tech for its time if it was finished.

He's also got an over hour long spergout trying to discount the A-10.
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Really this guy is probably just pulling this trick for the clicks.

I watched that, he's doing the same thing again like he did with the Horten Ho video where he presumes the worst intentions at every opportunity.
"900 tank kills reported right after Operation Desert Storm? Clearly just glory hound A-10 jockeys fudging the numbers as I deem that number too high."

Anecdotally my father was a tank commander. He participated in several joint NATO excersises, and his only recorded death came one morning at first light where his camp was spotted by a A-10 Warthog and completely demolished in a simulated strafing run.

A lot of people have a hate boner for the A-10, just like they do with the F-35. There seems to be a lot of animosity among armchair generals against ground assault aircraft for some reason.

 

[Rome's rightful successor]

Proving further that youtube hobby historians are a plague youtube decided to drop this video in my recommended list

Channel seems to be dedicated to forced jokes, exaggerated accents, and a promotion of historical revisionism, but a version that desperately wants to downplay any significance Germany had in the war... for some reason. One can probably gleam from the segment where he criticizes the BBC for favoring the tories exactly where his politics lie.

The video uses a lot of assumptions and half truths to present a hypothesis that has no facts behind it and merely rely on presuming everyone involved having the worst intentions.
That hypothesis being that the Horten Ho 229 was a piece of shit, and that the people involved in making it were all lying when they claimed it was planned to have stealth capabilities. You know, to own the wehraboos.
See the problem is that while true that the design of the Horten Ho 229 and later stealth fighters were likely a coincidence rather than a direct inspiration, it is then a far jump to then claim that the Horten Ho was never meant to avoid radar detection.
The youtuber presumes that all the nazi scientists were merely looking to make money, and therefore everything they said was a lie. In fact he goes so far as to claim all the former nazis were lying out of their asses to make good careers and good money. Which is weird considering he lumps in men like Gerd von Rundstedt who died penniless,
The video never answers why it was paramount for the Americans to keep as many of them out of Soviet hands as possible if so many of them were just stumbling buffoons with no worth.
It claims the Horten brothers lied to China about the plane's supposed role as a stealth fighter as they were simply looking to make money and the Smithsonian could not find traces of the supposed stealth coating the brothers referenced.
Problem is that Reimar Horten presented the plane as a stealth fighter to the Chinese in 1945, so rather immediately after the war, it would not be possible for them to piggyback on already existing technology at the time. It was the Chinese who offered the brothers work, not the brothers trying to persuade their way in. The brothers not going to China as Walter Horten elected to stay in Germany after the war. And you're reaching conclusions if you presume that just because the prototype had never been coated that it was never planned to do so later. We know for a fact that the Germans were the first to begin developing stealth coating with the Sumpf and Schornsteinfeger coating used on naval vessels. You would have to presume that worst of intentions from the Horten brothers even though they would have to know about the relatively recent invention of stealth coating, how it worked, and having designed a plane whose form makes it ideal as an attempt as a stealth fighter. It's kinda like accusing the designer of the Tiger tank of lying for stating that they were planning to use a anti magnetic coating on their tank just because you couldn't find Zimmerit on a unfinished tiger tank.

I've been noticing more and more lately where not only hobby historians, but actual historians as well are consistently presuming the worst intentions in situations where historical documentation is lacking, and you rely a lot on personal accounts. It's not wrong that the capabilities of the Horten Ho 229 has oft been exaggerated in fiction, being presented as a futuristic super jet capable of demolishing modern fighter jets. But it's ludicrous to lump the Horten Ho 229 in with nazi UFOs and doomsday clocks when we already know the Germans had the technology, and there is little reason to doubt the Horten brothers when they spoke about the plans for it to have stealth capabilities

One one hand, I've found this at the top of his user page:

On the other hand, I didn't watch it for fear of cringe, so it may be clickbait combined with trying to do everything he can to deny the problems with Soviet Arms.

This level of revisionism is just pathetic. Next they're gonna try and discount what the paperclip scientists did for the US if they haven't already tried. One of the main principles of the flying wing shape other than it's pros in aerodynamics is its inherent stealth abilities. The spirit barely changes from this configuration beyond its digital shaping, though this design was based almost entirely on earlier American designs. Even if the plan wasn't for stealth it still would have been incredible tech for its time if it was finished.

He's also got an over hour long spergout trying to discount the A-10.
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Really this guy is probably just pulling this trick for the clicks.

He sounds like a bargain bin version of Potential History. Which is a low bar to get even lower from.

 

[Plaintiff is fat]

Check out this criminally small channel: Spy Collection sitting at only 1.8k subs and many of it's videos barely have 200 views. Not super strictly historytuber since he covers some modern espionage related documents, but the best videos IMO are his historical intelligence memorabilia showcases:

he has vids on spy cameras and electronic cryptography devices so arguably also a techtuber lol. Shilling in selfish hope that he gets big and gains access to more items for my entertainment