Star Wars Griefing Thread (SPOILERS) - Safety off

[HandsomeDan]

That would actually make a lot of sense considering from what I remember only John and Daisy went to Abu Dhabi to film the Jakku scenes while everyone else stayed in the UK. TFA has a really poor sense of scale. Everything's either too small or way too big for no reason. It's really obvious watching the movie now that outside of a few scenes and locations everything is shot on sets. The opening for example was shot at Pinewood and is only a small village set which is why it's only a few huts and nothing else.

Gwendoline Christie was pure stunt casting considering she was on Game of Thrones which was really popular at the time and they had no idea what to do with her character. I remember how she coped by pretending she was actually important because "feminism" or something. It was kind of sad to see.

That makes sense now, the desert scenes were the only thing that sort of worked in that film, everything else was like looking through a paper towel tube.

They dont even show us what the various ships even look like, such as the freighter Han was on.

 

[jspit2.0]

This confirms that the shitty leaks were true.
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And also older rumors of how a Dr. Aphra spinoff is being considered by having Shadow the Chewbacca and Boba serve as the bridge.

Next up, more Filoni cameos, more Solo wanking, Bad Batch cameos, and a lot of other typical Filoni wanking. Unsurprisingly HelloGreedo is going into full damage control and Filoni praising while scolding fans on being more tolerant, ironic considering he made his success on being the bitchiest and most critical OT puritan on youtube.

Anyway as for the episode, nuBib Fortuna had been running Jabba's empire into the ground for 6 years without anyone stopping him and doing a shit job, then suddenly Boba shows up and takes his place and now the hutts are interested in taking it backall of a sudden? What was once the biggest criminal empire and hutt domain in the outer rims was just up and forgotten until after it became even more worthless? Really? Hell in old canon they had the sense to have every douchebag, hutt and their dad fight to claim Jabba's turf after Fortuna got axed less than a year after ROTJ. Now Disney LFL expects us to believe this nucanon dirtball of an empire is still worth a damn (despite being completely forgotten) just because these Kumac and Jelasi the Hutt knockoffs suddenly remembered it existed?

Fucking hell. Cad Bane? Does Filoni just have this card in his back pocket and every series he takes it out to see who he hasn't forced into the OT yet?

Also can't wait for Boba to get taken down by Cad Bane/Aphra and every Fettstan losing there shit. At this point its more hilarious to see how they can make a show about Boba Fett both less about Fett and humiliate him more. Bonus points if Asian Sniper lady is related to or in a relationship with Dr AphraAsian Sue.

 

[HandsomeDan]

I refused to be a battered wife and come crawling back. Do yall think this series is worth me giving it a chance or is sitting this one out a better choice?

It appears from what many of you are saying it is mediocre at best.

 

[jspit2.0]

I refused to be a battered wife and come crawling back. Do yall think this series is worth me giving it a chance or is sitting this one out a better choice?

It appears from what many of you are saying it is mediocre at best.

Based on the first ep, only if your like me and watching it for the lols to see how bad it gets.

Oh you sweet summer child.

I consider it the other way around my self.

There's a Trek thread. But fuck it. Trek will never be as fucked as Star Wars because Trek has a multiverse where it can easily retcon everything Abrams forward has done.

You will never be able to change that Carrie Fisher's last appearance as Leia was Rise of Skywalker or that Mark Hamill's Luke ran away after trying and failing to murder his nephew because he had a bad dream. You'll never change that Han and Leia's kid wound up being a shit that tried to kill them before dying so that a cardboard cutout could continue to live despite not having any story or character.

Trek can and has a future if it wants. No one watches Discovery and most people tuned out Picard.

 

[Ghostse]

I refused to be a battered wife and come crawling back. Do yall think this series is worth me giving it a chance or is sitting this one out a better choice?

It appears from what many of you are saying it is mediocre at best.

For the remainder of your lifetime, the answer will be "if its new Star Wars content, don't bother".

I'd caveat that if Disney ever releases the OT theatrical cut on a HD format, but that's never happening. While you don't have Lucas denying the Theatrical Cut's existence in pursuit of his "Original Vision" or whatever the fuck it is that had us getting yet another inserted CGI sequence certain to age like milk, Disney is trying like mad to bury the past and pretend it never happened. The probably tens to low hundreds of millions they'd make in sales pales in comparison to continuing to a few years of stiffing Lucas' percentage for things created by/for him.

 

[jspit2.0]

For the remainder of your lifetime, the answer will be "if its new Star Wars content, don't bother".

I'd caveat that if Disney ever releases the OT theatrical cut on a HD format, but that's never happening. While you don't have Lucas denying the Theatrical Cut's existence in pursuit of his "Original Vision" or whatever the fuck it is that had us getting yet another inserted CGI sequence certain to age like milk, Disney is trying like mad to bury the past and pretend it never happened. The probably tens to low hundreds of millions they'd make in sales pales in comparison to continuing to a few years of stiffing Lucas' percentage for things created by/for him.

Never say never. The zeitgeist can always turn. Give it fifty years and they'll be trying to ignore this entire era happened while denying their own culpability.

 

[RiceofSkywalker]

I refused to be a battered wife and come crawling back. Do yall think this series is worth me giving it a chance or is sitting this one out a better choice?

It appears from what many of you are saying it is mediocre at best.

I'd say go read the Bounty Hunter Wars Trilogy instead. I'm in the final stretch of it myself and can vouch for it being an enjoyable read that feels like it belongs to the universe. Also, you can yo-ho-ho it (or buy it used, depending where you live) so Disney doesn't see a dime from you.

By contrast, nothing I read or heard about Boba Fat or Blandalorian makes them sound appealing to me. The only enjoyment I've gotten out of Disney shit is watching them run their franchise into the ground.

 

[Calandrino]

There's a Trek thread. But fuck it. Trek will never be as fucked as Star Wars because Trek has a multiverse where it can easily retcon everything Abrams forward has done.

You will never be able to change that Carrie Fisher's last appearance as Leia was Rise of Skywalker or that Mark Hamill's Luke ran away after trying and failing to murder his nephew because he had a bad dream. You'll never change that Han and Leia's kid wound up being a shit that tried to kill them before dying so that a cardboard cutout could continue to live despite not having any story or character.

Trek can and has a future if it wants. No one watches Discovery and most people tuned out Picard.

I agree. The mood of the Trek thread is very different. There's not much rage porn or gossip about internal studio politics, nobody can even stay interested enough in post-JJ Trek to bother making fun of it for long. The quality of Trek consoomables might actually be worse, but there's no reason to care. Star Wars fans, on the other hand, will find a new definition of pain and suffering as the franchise is slowly subverted over a thousand years, kept alive by a steady drip of Baby Yoda merch sales.

 

[The Ugly One]

I agree. The mood of the Trek thread is very different. There's not much rage porn or gossip about internal studio politics, nobody can even stay interested enough in post-JJ Trek to bother making fun of it for long. The quality of Trek consoomables might actually be worse, but there's no reason to care. Star Wars fans, on the other hand, will find a new definition of pain and suffering as the franchise is slowly subverted over a thousand years, kept alive by a steady drip of Baby Yoda merch sales.

I think it's because Star Trek has been a mix of good, great, campy, and downright atrocious since the beginning, and because since TNG, it hasn't been about any one cast of characters or overarching story. You can't "ruin" Star Trek, only make individually bad TV show runs or movies.

 

[Michael Wade]

Based on the first ep, only if your like me and watching it for the lols to see how bad it gets.



There's a Trek thread. But fuck it. Trek will never be as fucked as Star Wars because Trek has a multiverse where it can easily retcon everything Abrams forward has done.

You will never be able to change that Carrie Fisher's last appearance as Leia was Rise of Skywalker or that Mark Hamill's Luke ran away after trying and failing to murder his nephew because he had a bad dream. You'll never change that Han and Leia's kid wound up being a shit that tried to kill them before dying so that a cardboard cutout could continue to live despite not having any story or character.

Trek can and has a future if it wants. No one watches Discovery and most people tuned out Picard.

I think it's because Star Trek has been a mix of good, great, campy, and downright atrocious since the beginning, and because since TNG, it hasn't been about any one cast of characters or overarching story. You can't "ruin" Star Trek, only make individually bad TV show runs or movies.

Good points. I guess my problem is I have more of a short term perspective on the franchises.

Regardless on if they can salvage star wars or not, ive made my peace. They dont get my money either way.


Boba ep2 was a lot better, they should have made the premiere a two part showing

 

[Adamska]

It was 'okay' compared to season 3, and at least there was some promise things would be ok (the Captain dude was a good, interesting captain, but they killed him of in favour os space jesus and evil chink. Season 2 showed promise with Pike, but again, the whole thing was a mess with Space Jesus being Spock's sister (but better than Spock), and Space Jesus' mother being a savour or something, I dunno... I watched 2 episodes of S3 during COVID isolation and that's it.
Major Grin provides me with all the STD I need.

A single side character never fucking saves a product when it's all bad; it's merely a balm for a person DESPERATELY looking for anything to make them not just turn off the audiovisual rape. It's also stupid to try and go "hey, it sucks, but think of how fucking bad the next season is!"

It's like reverse "hey this show sucks cock the first 3 seasons, but it gets really good in season 5".

There's a Trek thread. But fuck it. Trek will never be as fucked as Star Wars because Trek has a multiverse where it can easily retcon everything Abrams forward has done.

Oh no, that's just copium. STD and Picard are forcibly shoved into that OG setting, and any denials of it is pure cope.

 

[jspit2.0]

A single side character never fucking saves a product when it's all bad; it's merely a balm for a person DESPERATELY looking for anything to make them not just turn off the audiovisual rape. It's also stupid to try and go "hey, it sucks, but think of how fucking bad the next season is!"

It's like reverse "hey this show sucks cock the first 3 seasons, but it gets really good in season 5".

Oh no, that's just copium. STD and Picard are forcibly shoved into that OG setting, and any denials of it is pure cope.

No. It is fact.

In the Abram's Star Trek movie, the two universes exist parallel to one another. Further, the concept of multiverse is indicative of an infinite number of universes. It is not cope to say that if tomorrow CBS handed me the rights to Star Trek I could say, "Welp, that all happened in Star Trek Universe Shit. Shitverse Picard and Discovery and Abrams are all over there. Over here in OT Trek verse Picard had a stroke after Nemesis and passed away. Discovery never happened." I could do that, because of the nature of Trek and how JJ and Bad Robots contract worked. Star Trek wanted to preserve more than one continuity and thanks to things like Mirror, Mirror you can do that in Star Trek.

Star Wars doesn't have that. It's always been one, linear universe.

 

[Adamska]

No. It is fact.

In the Abram's Star Trek movie, the two universes exist parallel to one another. Further, the concept of multiverse is indicative of an infinite number of universes. It is not cope to say that if tomorrow CBS handed me the rights to Star Trek I could say, "Welp, that all happened in Star Trek Universe Shit. Shitverse Picard and Discovery and Abrams are all over there. Over here in OT Trek verse Picard had a stroke after Nemesis and passed away. Discovery never happened." I could do that, because of the nature of Trek and how JJ and Bad Robots contract worked. Star Trek wanted to preserve more than one continuity and thanks to things like Mirror, Mirror you can do that in Star Trek.

Star Wars doesn't have that. It's always been one, linear universe.

Picard literally takes place after the stupid JarJar explosion of Romulus' star. That's still in the OG universe since they expressly stated this when they made the JarJar Kelvinverse movies. It IS cope to deny otherwise.

Discovery is less sure, but honestly I can't see them thinking of alternate universes when they wrote it.

Yes. I'm aware of parallel universes being common enough scenarios, and there's a near infinite set thanks to the episode "Parallels". But honestly? No. Klutzman raped it with at least one of his incompetent scam shows he can't manage worth a shit. Even if you argue otherwise, it don't matter. They ain't doing that smart nerd shit anymore. Not with those soap opera writers and the disgust they have with anything slow paced and thoughtful.

 

[jspit2.0]

Picard literally takes place after the stupid JarJar explosion of Romulus' star. That's still in the OG universe since they expressly stated this. It IS cope to deny otherwise.

Discovery is less sure, but honestly I can't see them thinking of alternate universes when they wrote it.

It's not cope. I understand that, and their intentions just don't matter. I'm saying that between TOS to Enterprise they haven't really touched the core.

The only original cast member in JJ Trek was Nimoy and he was in character. TNG got fucked in Picard. But TNG was slowly fucking itself back when it was on air.

What I'm saying is there's nothing approaching the level of Mark Hamil or Harrison Ford shitting themselves on set or of the irreparable damage. Because you can always do what I just said and say it all happened over there and the stuff you love is not tied to it. You can't fucking do that with Star Wars.

 

[Adamska]

It's not cope. I understand that, and their intentions just don't matter. I'm saying that between TOS to Enterprise they haven't really touched the core.

The only original cast member in JJ Trek was Nimoy and he was in character. TNG got fucked in Picard. But TNG was slowly fucking itself back when it was on air.

What I'm saying is there's nothing approaching the level of Mark Hamil or Harrison Ford shitting themselves on set or of the irreparable damage. Because you can always do what I just said and say it all happened over there and the stuff you love is not tied to it. You can't fucking do that with Star Wars.

Agree to disagree then.

Also if you really want pain, didn't they consider trying to make a Star Wars multiverse where alternate realities abound? If so, remember that Star Wars will be infinitely fucked in a fractal loop now. Infinite bad Star Wars. Just like how at this rate you're going to get infinite Bad Trek no matter what.

 

[jspit2.0]

Agree to disagree then.

Also if you really want pain, didn't they consider trying to make a Star Wars multiverse where alternate realities abound? If so, remember that Star Wars will be infinitely fucked in a fractal loop now. Infinite bad Star Wars. Just like how at this rate you're going to get infinite Bad Trek no matter what.

I'd take it compared to what we have. But even there.

Carrie's dead. Harrison, Billy, and Mark are what? Septuagenarians?

At this point I'm happy with the OT being its own thing. It happened, its happy.

 

[King Dead]

Isn't it sad that the current state of Trek vs. Wars fandom is which series is getting raped harder by the corporate assholes in charge of them?

 

[The Ugly One]

Oh no, that's just copium. STD and Picard are forcibly shoved into that OG setting, and any denials of it is pure cope.

Officially, in the OG setting of Star Trek, the Greek gods were a race of ancient, nearly-immortal aliens. The laws of physics in the ST universe created a flying portal to a realm of perpetual Christmas. There used to be a blue head at the center of the galaxy that considered itself a god. There's also a planet whose evolution was identical to Earth's up until space America and space USSR went to war. Space America even had the same Declaration of Independence as us!

The secret of Star Trek is that it's already retarded.

 

[Captain Autism69]

Episode 2 of Boba fat was again, nothing special, nothing terrible. He makes friends with Tuscans, pew pews a big train and gets some black robes and a stick. In the 'present' time line he gets raped by Jabba the huts twins in public, and a black Wookie looks at him with an eye of lust.
It's not trying to be anything else other than by the number safe shit.

 

[Sneed F91]

Isn't it sad that the current state of Trek vs. Wars fandom is which series is getting raped harder by the corporate assholes in charge of them?

Both fandoms didn't know how good they had it before the 2010s.