Star Wars Griefing Thread (SPOILERS) - Safety off

Michael Wade said:
It was rather rule of the cool, but I dug it. Im actually liking the flashbacks more then the present day scenes. Especially enjoyed the montage of boba teaching the sand people how to ride speeder bikes and him casually saving some moisture farmers. Ive always been a sucker for fun Indian shit.
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They weren‘t just any moisture farmers, those characters were intended to be Camie and Fixer from a deleted scene in the original Star Wars.
 
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The Valeyard said:
In Marvel‘s Not!SotE event comics the other members of the Hutt Council were killed by Darth Vader, leaving Jabba as the most powerful Hutt by default.
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I'm not sure that contradicts what I said, especially given the bolded part. In either choice he's still a slug who opted to make his home in a patch of heat and dry dust. The bomarr monastery is less his fortress and more the dank rock he hides from the sun under.

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Either we go with what's presented in RotJ, where Jabba comes across like a local hood scratching out a living where he can Tatooine with some bit of power and cash relative to the scum and losers around him, or we go with 'he's a middling-to-last-place hutt forced to hide from Vader on a barely livable backwater shithole that used to be Vaders home planet'. Which seems like it amounts to the same thing. But more loopy.

Midwit said:
I'm pretty sure he picked Tatooine precisely because it was a backwater shithole with no importance to the greater galaxy, likely both to display his opulence to a bunch of dirty sand farmers and to make his fellow sluggas uncomfortable in the harsh climate. Jabba's presence is really the only thing that puts Tatooine on the map and without him it should've fallen into being even more irrelevent than it already is
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I'm genuinely sorry, but that made no sense.
 
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Jabba is on Tatooine because George Lucas wrote Jabba being on Tatooine

They did kind of make a joke about it in the EU, Jabba slumming on this shithole planet out in the middle of nowhere even for the Outer Rim, why?
 
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The Valeyard said:
They weren‘t just any moisture farmers, those characters were intended to be Camie and Fixer from a deleted scene in the original Star Wars.
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Midwit said:
Another thing I've noticed, does anyone think that a lot of the newer blaster designs in Star Wars look more like toys than they do firearms?
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They all seem blocky and overdesigned compared to a lot of the original designs, and are far more modernised in their general aesthetic. Maybe it's just me trying to find things to complain about but it just feels really out of place once you notice it, I also had a similar issue with the sequels and how a lot of the design work just didn't feel like it fit into the Star Wars universe,
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Boba's armor definitely looked even more toyetic after the repaint in DisCanon, which makes me think the new look for tech is intentionally made that way to produce cheaper toys.
Newman's Lovechild said:
I have a feeling 'Jabba is the most powerful Hutt' is a bit of flanderization
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He wasn't the most powerful crimelord in pre-DisCanon to be sure, that title went to Xizor who also dealt directly with the Empire. Jabba was just a petty tyrant on Tatooine (which was already a hutt turf that hutt clans had free reign over) whose career began at the tender age of 80 when he set up shop in his family's land in Mos Espa and used the planet's out of the way location to run an arms and spice smuggling business which went well due to it being outside of Republic jurisdiction. Eventually he started forming ties with other systems, starting a little cartel of his own but mostly just being Tatooine's shit hole kingpin, ruling only half the planet at best while trying to keep his ties to his affiliates firm, and even these ties were shaky at best, like those of the Bando Gora and Black Sun. Hell Jabba couldn't even keep the Empire out of Tatooine and had to run to his family for help just to fend off the empire for a bit when they put a bounty on his head. Many years later before ANH, his "aunt", who was the leader of his particular hutt clan and an actual bigshot, was killed, and Jabba had her child assassinated, making him the next in line to his clan's leadership title along with her resources and wealth, escalating Jabba to a bigger status among the hutts due to it being one of the major clans. Jabba then used his newfound status and wealth to forge stronger ties with Xizor and make his little syndicate a real criminal empire, and after Xizor's death before ROTJ, Jabba finally was looking to become a real big shot, but Jabba's new position as his clan's leader and rising status didn't last for more than a few years since he was soon killed in the events of ROTJ before he could really take advantage of his new status. Thereafter, his relatives fought over the rights for the clan title and wealth.

So in the end his greater infamy was more because of his old age, the ties he made along the way, his family's prestige, living in daddy's shadow and his brief stint as clan leader, and as soon as he died, hutts began feuding over who got to be the next leader and control the clan resources, and because of Xizor's death and the hutts' feud, the human Talon Karrde became the new #1 in the underworld for the next few years, and who many suspect Boba will replace in Filoni's NuThrawn Trilogy.

In Disney however, Jabba is depicted as being insanely powerful, the #1 in the galaxy, and having entire fleets of star ships at his disposal orbiting around Tatooine 24/7.
The Valeyard said:
In Marvel‘s Not!SotE event comics the other members of the Hutt Council were killed by Darth Vader, leaving Jabba as the most powerful Hutt by default.
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I figured as much. Classic DLFL shrinking the universe down further by having Vader be behind everything.
The Valeyard said:
They weren‘t just any moisture farmers, those characters were intended to be Camie and Fixer from a deleted scene in the original Star Wars.
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Its the size of a schoolyard now.
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Midwit said:
Another thing I've noticed, does anyone think that a lot of the newer blaster designs in Star Wars look more like toys than they do firearms?
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They all seem blocky and overdesigned compared to a lot of the original designs, and are far more modernised in their general aesthetic. Maybe it's just me trying to find things to complain about but it just feels really out of place once you notice it, I also had a similar issue with the sequels and how a lot of the design work just didn't feel like it fit into the Star Wars universe,
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Boba looks like's got a bolt-action rifle like a Mosin-Nagant, Fennic's got a an H&K G36, and the wookie's rockin' a VSS Vintorez, by the look of things.
 
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The Valeyard said:
Here is the scene in question.

The dialogue feels like the MCU instead of Star Wars.
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My God Boba looks 80 years old here. Is that intentional or something? Also the MCU-like writing has been a thing since Disney bought the franchise (at least since TFA). I don't know the context for this scene since I haven't seen the show but it's just embarrassing to watch. Now that I at it, the whole thing kind of reminds me of those Equalizer movies starring Denzel Washington.
The Gangster Computer said:
In Disney however, Jabba is depicted as being insanely powerful, the #1 in the galaxy, and having entire fleets of star ships at his disposal orbiting around Tatooine 24/7.
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Sounds about right, Kennedyfilm and Disney flandarizing the hell out of every little piece of info from George's films to make everybody and everything important to the galaxy. It's like MaRey Sue burring the lightsabers on Tatooine in Plan IX, it makes absolutely no sense.
Midwit said:
Another thing I've noticed, does anyone think that a lot of the newer blaster designs in Star Wars look more like toys than they do firearms?
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They all seem blocky and overdesigned compared to a lot of the original designs, and are far more modernised in their general aesthetic. Maybe it's just me trying to find things to complain about but it just feels really out of place once you notice it, I also had a similar issue with the sequels and how a lot of the design work just didn't feel like it fit into the Star Wars universe,

I'm pretty sure he picked Tatooine precisely because it was a backwater shithole with no importance to the greater galaxy, likely both to display his opulence to a bunch of dirty sand farmers and to make his fellow sluggas uncomfortable in the harsh climate. Jabba's presence is really the only thing that puts Tatooine on the map and without him it should've fallen into being even more irrelevent than it already is, but if that were the case then maybe we'd get something interesting out of this show rather than it just being another by the numbers story of a vaguely-but-not-really criminal hero fighting against a bunch of shallow antagonists whilst nothing interesting actually happens. I miss Kyle Katarn.
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I've had a suspicion since TFA that the prop makers who work on Star Wars are the type of people who don't like guns for political reasons but still make them anyways, considering the stuff from the sequels look like Nerf toys or recycled shit from the OT.
The Valeyard said:
They weren‘t just any moisture farmers, those characters were intended to be Camie and Fixer from a deleted scene in the original Star Wars.
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I'm not surprised that Kennedyfilm would try to make references that were as obscure as possible for nerd cred. I've always wondered why George thought it was a good idea to add the Jabba scene back into ANH when it's completely unnecessary but not the scene with Biggs and Luke talking before he leaves Tatooine. I always liked it though I admit that it would probably mess with the pace of the theatrical cut.
Michael Wade said:
The problem with phasma is that even in her own books she's a bitch. She backstabs allies for personal gain, is cowardly when her life is on the line and is basically a less charismatic starscream when you think about it. She could have worked if they put a little bit more ham into her being evil, but they couldn't even manage that.
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That would have required JJ and Rian to have given enough of a shit to write her into a role that mattered to the plot.
 
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Michael Wade said:
i'm fairly certain the flashbacks are to build up the reason's why he's changed in personality and motivation.
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Except that doesn't happen, Boba's change has already occured the moment this show started. Any reasoning for this lazy development is offscreen that we don't see. The flashbacks are action filler that pays lazy lipservice to character reflection rather than actually exploring the character.
 
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TheAmbiguousLurker said:
The flashbacks are action filler that pays lazy lipservice to character reflection rather than actually exploring the character.
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That's everything post-Plan IX, it's all the same shit with a slightly different flavour. At least with Bed Betch Crosshair managed to actually be entertaining when he got screentime.
 
Let me get this straight - Our MC went from unscrupulous gun for hire to Lawrence of Tatooine, to Borsalino gangster, to a crime lord that doesn't actually do crime. And all this in a span of 2 episodes. Who thought this was a good idea? This is enough plot for a whole series and it's thrown at the viewer in annoying flashbacks, cause we need to get to the member-berries. Beer-Belly Fett escapes the sarlac and then.... he found Jesus and swore off his dastardly ways. Why do you want your main character, the guy who the entire series is build around, to not be interesting Filoni?
 
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