Star Wars Griefing Thread (SPOILERS) - Safety off

[HumanHive]

Ep2 was better, but I really wish they didn't time skip. I kept waiting to go back to the present, but they never did. Are we here to see Boba be a crime lord, or reenact Dances with Wolves? Pick one.

 

[starborn427614]

I refused to be a battered wife and come crawling back. Do yall think this series is worth me giving it a chance or is sitting this one out a better choice?

It appears from what many of you are saying it is mediocre at best.

I'd wait for it to be done first. It doesn't seem to be attempting to replace Mando S3., so at least they're aware that smaller stakes work for shows like this.

 

[Tor Lugosi]

Episode two was better... but still mostly a dud for me. The main plot moves by inches and has scenes that are meant to be comedic but mostly just undermine Fett's character, depriving him of any sort of threat or menace.

Then there's the flashback scenes which are still overly long and the whole setup for them is just retarded. I mean, is Fett meant to have Stockholm syndrome or some shit? They had him chained to a pole out in the blazing sun where they let kids beat him unconscious, look to have given him just enough substance to survive, and likely would have either worked him to death or traded him off had he not proven himself... and yet he consistently seeks their approval and returns anytime he has a chance to escape.

 

[Creep3r]

Agree to disagree then.

Also if you really want pain, didn't they consider trying to make a Star Wars multiverse where alternate realities abound? If so, remember that Star Wars will be infinitely fucked in a fractal loop now. Infinite bad Star Wars. Just like how at this rate you're going to get infinite Bad Trek no matter what.

I think they did consider it, especially after the time anus thing, and some youtube theory faggots implied that a multiverse would happen based on some crummy Vader comic that created a ridiculous paradox. However it looks like that shitty Visions anime and its spinoffs are becoming their entry into that sort of shit, being their first piece of media set in an alternate reality since the buyout. And what does Disney do with this new setting? Make it just as twitter trendy and queer as the rest of their new crap with a novel to surpass Wendig.

Officially, in the OG setting of Star Trek, the Greek gods were a race of ancient, nearly-immortal aliens. The laws of physics in the ST universe created a flying portal to a realm of perpetual Christmas. There used to be a blue head at the center of the galaxy that considered itself a god. There's also a planet whose evolution was identical to Earth's up until space America and space USSR went to war. Space America even had the same Declaration of Independence as us!

The secret of Star Trek is that it's already retarded.

And Jack the Ripper is an eternal demon that wanders the universe simply to kill a handful of women on each planet. And TNG has a semi-omnipotent comic relief character that acts like a cartoon with a highly inconsistent character portrayal (and who one novel retconned into being the source of all major TOS energy villains, including the big blue head, while shrinking that universe down to the size of a walnut).

The laws of physics in the ST universe created a flying portal to a realm of perpetual Christmas.

I don't remember that one. I don't doubt it, just curious. Also if we go by ST novels, the crew of the Enterprise also went to a vaudeville-styled Broadway Musical planet that ended in a pie fight between the Federation and the Klingons.

Isn't it sad that the current state of Trek vs. Wars fandom is which series is getting raped harder by the corporate assholes in charge of them?

Now watch as the D&D, Terminator, Dr. Who and Predator-Alien fanboys join in to talk about how more royally fucked their shit is. And when Amazon releases its Tolkien butchery, you know the LOTR fanboys will want a part of this dick failure measuring action too. Only modern reboot that seems to have gone without a hitch is Dark Crystal, and that was mostly a prequel based on pre-existing lore, and it got cancelled.

By contrast, nothing I read or heard about Boba Fat or Blandalorian makes them sound appealing to me. The only enjoyment I've gotten out of Disney shit is watching them run their franchise into the ground.

I also like how no one points out that none of the shit in Book of Boba Fett makes sense from a believable world building point of view. Filoni and crew just have shit happen at convenience and leisure without much thought put into them other than that they needed to happen for the sake of moving the plot forward. Even Jedi Prince, for all the shit it gets, handled the possession of Jabba's assets and the feud that would erupt after his death more believably. Hutts feud for a few months after his death, take his assets by force (and make Bib 'disappear'), and more hutts keep trying to wrestle control over the territory.

But now Bib rules uncontested, Boba gets weirdly attached to a bunch of desert psychos, Boba just ups and murders a crime lord without much thought put into it, and all for a criminal empire that is apparently defanged and worthless now, which gets even messier and more worthless after Boba claims it and who has no idea what to do with it. Yet despite this, the hutts now come back to claim it 6 years after Jabba's death because Boba needs more competent villains...

I'd say go read the Bounty Hunter Wars Trilogy instead. I'm in the final stretch of it myself and can vouch for it being an enjoyable read that feels like it belongs to the universe. Also, you can yo-ho-ho it (or buy it used, depending where you live) so Disney doesn't see a dime from you.

The Bounty Hunter Wars subplot was also a goody; showing Boba and Dengar completely cucking Bossk's daddy and the Bounty Hunters Guild was hilarious and action packed. Also its things like that which always make me wonder why Filoni fans keep insisting on the notion that Filoni is going to recanonize anything pre-Disney when all he does is continue to retcon or ignore it more than TFU II.

 

[Midwit]

Are we here to see Boba be a crime lord, or reenact Dances with Wolves? Pick one.

The issue with the crime lord shit is that I have no frame of reference for why anyone is actually doing anything other than Jabba's cousins wanting his shit back. There's so much stuff that the audience should be aware of, such as:

• Why is Tatooine so important?
• Why does Boba suddenly want to be a Daimyo?
• Why is everyone saying Daimyo all of a sudden?
• Why do the Pikes have a jet powered repulsor train carrying spice through the desert?
• Why is everybody so concerned with Boba not being carried by a team of slaves?

Though to this episode's credit you do get to see Boba doing some actual bounty hunting, shame it was by accident.

 

[Mr. Zed da Robot Poon Fed]

She wasn't even a foil to Finn. Her character was completely undeveloped and had no stake with the character of Finn other than being that particular stormtrooper he didn't like. The random stormtrooper with the electric baton that calls him traitor has more going on with Finn than Phasma. All there ever was to her character was deactivating the sheild to the starkiller base in TFA and having a forgetable death in TLJ. That's how little effort they put into her character in the movies.

Phasma, like the Porgs and the other weird stuff in Disney Star Wars, was just a marketing ploy for toys. This is a case where Mauler was right about her, since her action figure sold relatively well at the time of TFA.

“Hey, look at that cool chrome Stormtrooper!”

 

[Iceland Heavy]

The issue with the crime lord shit is that I have no frame of reference for why anyone is actually doing anything other than Jabba's cousins wanting his shit back. There's so much stuff that the audience should be aware of, such as:

• Why is Tatooine so important?
• Why does Boba suddenly want to be a Daimyo?
• Why is everyone saying Daimyo all of a sudden?
• Why do the Pikes have a jet powered repulsor train carrying spice through the desert?
• Why is everybody so concerned with Boba not being carried by a team of slaves?

Though to this episode's credit you do get to see Boba doing some actual bounty hunting, shame it was by accident.

The Daimyo thing and the spice train at least, sound like Filoni clumsily trying to shoehorn reference and 'inspiration' to Kurosawa and Dune respectively, just like George Lucas.

 

[Creep3r]

The issue with the crime lord shit is that I have no frame of reference for why anyone is actually doing anything other than Jabba's cousins wanting his shit back. There's so much stuff that the audience should be aware of, such as:

Why is Tatooine so important?

Because reasons. Tatooine was only important in old canon because Jabba's empire was the biggest in the outer rim and the Empire and Republic didn't have the means to mess with such an out of the way hell hole. But none of that applies now in DisCanon, so they're fighting over a useless sandball with an even more worthless empire that everyone waited six years to claim for some reason.

Why does Boba suddenly want to be a Daimyo?

Why is everyone saying Daimyo all of a sudden?

Because Filoni likes forcing random japanese references with zero context or subtlety to the point where he retconned the jedi training hall into a literal Earth dojo, because he thinks that because Kurosawa was an influence on Star Wars, doing random japanese shit somehow pays homage to that to make up for the fact that the only japanese media he knows about is Miyazaki anime films.

Why do the Pikes have a jet powered repulsor train carrying spice through the desert?

Because they're Filoni's precious OC underworld faction and he's been propping them up for years to the point where they're more prominent than the hutts and black sun now. Also the drug train is a reference to Solo and Disney LFL wants to pretend the movie was a success now that people should want remembered.

Why is everybody so concerned with Boba not being carried by a team of slaves?

Something something plot and cultural flanderization.

Though to this episode's credit you do get to see Boba doing some actual bounty hunting, shame it was by accident.

Pretty much the new style of writing is nothing but convenient accidents.

 

[Midwit]

The Daimyo thing and the spice train at least, sound like Filoni clumsily trying to shoehorn reference and 'inspiration' to Kurosawa and Dune respectively.

On the spice train it just makes no sense, why would the Pykes ship in a trainload of spice all the way from Kessel to Tatooine only then to send a train rocketing through the desert to god knows where? This is one of the biggest issues with Filoni & Favreau's shit, the fact that they'll just establish things solely for the sake of an action setpiece when it becomes completely nonsensical if you think about it for more than 5 seconds

random japanese references with zero context or subtlety

If they were to create an Imperial officer who wore the naval trooper helmet alongside some armour, painted in the style of historical samurai, who went around killing people with a vibro-katana would that be more or less cringe than what Filoni is currently doing?

 

[Hollywood Hitler]

Watched ep 2 of Boba Fett. Not terrible. I'm just really tired of the flashbacks.

 

[Midwit]

Watched ep 2 of Boba Fett. Not terrible. I'm just really tired of the flashbacks.

It's like Arrow if it didn't establish anything or give me any reason to care. The fact that I'm using ARROW of all fucking things as an example of how to do something right really highlights how bad the Mandoverse shows are, but at least it had the decency to wait for a couple seasons before turning into irredeemable trash rather than being shit from the get-go.

 

[The Valeyard]

Star Wars Theory is going all out shilling for Boba Fat.

“This by far was my favourite episode I give it an easy 10/10. Simply because it really focused on the world building and the lore of Star Wars. It really felt like Star Wars. Everything from the Pyke Syndicate to Boba Fett’s backstory, him having that trip in the desert and seeing little Boba Fett again, including that little scene that we’ve never actually seen before which I believe was probably digitally created, to him overcoming his demons, and of course in present time seeing the Hutts and Black Krrsantan.”

And this is his pinned comment under the video.
“I really LOVED this episode. Can't believe they put Black in canon. He's gonna be insane. Maybe we'll see him fight Kenobi just like in canon. Have a great day and see you next week!”

ETA: At 5:46 he says, “If you didn’t hear me in the beginning I believe that this is probably the most heartfelt, mystic, heroic, and moving bit of Star Wars that I’ve seen since Revenge of the Sith and for me even trumps the return of Luke Skywalker in The Mandalorian season 2 simply because this episode in its entirety was so moving, and so lore-filled and so beautiful and didn’t just have the nostalgic and wow factor feel of a cool character returning.”

 

[The Ugly One]

Dr Kevorkian's quest for the portal to Christmas Land was the plot of Generations.

Now watch as the D&D, Terminator, Dr. Who and Predator-Alien fanboys join in to talk about how more royally fucked their shit is. And when Amazon releases its Tolkien butchery, you know the LOTR fanboys will want a part of this dick failure measuring action too. Only modern reboot that seems to have gone without a hitch is Dark Crystal, and that was mostly a prequel based on pre-existing lore, and it got cancelled.

Star Wars is in a uniquely bad place because, as said upthread, all anyone really wanted was a satisfying ending to the story of Han, Luke, and Leia, and not only did they not get that, but now they can't ever get that. Ever. It's ruined forever now.

• Dr Who is similar to Star Trek in that there's plenty of corny, retarded bullshit in its past, and you can't really be a fan unless you can laugh it off.
• With Lord of the Rings, everybody knows that nothing other than what Tolkien himself wrote really counts. Amazon can say that black hobbits lived in the Shire and Elrond was transgender all they want, because Amazon can go get fucked.
• Predator and Alien are basically monster B-movies in blockbuster dressing that had nowhere else to go after the big monster reveal and the protagonist's survival. They've been limping along for decades, trying to pretend to be a compelling sci-fi universe, because a handful of nerds want to know the back story of every prop and set, and they made for a good video game or two.

 

[TheAmbiguousLurker]

I love hearing people freak out over the Prequel flashbacks. "Oh my god, there's a shot of Kamino! Nothing is happening in this shot and nothing is being conveyed that wasn't already obvious, BUT IT'S A SHOT OF KAMINO!"

 

[Creep3r]

Star Wars Theory is going all out shilling for Boba Fat.

“This by far was my favourite episode I give it an easy 10/10. Simply because it really focused on the world building and the lore of Star Wars. It really felt like Star Wars. Everything from the Pyke Syndicate to Boba Fett’s backstory, him having that trip in the desert and seeing little Boba Fett again, including that little scene that we’ve never actually seen before which I believe was probably digitally created, to him overcoming his demons, and of course in present time seeing the Hutts and Black Krrsantan.”

He and HelloGreedo have been batting extra hard for this shit. And he keeps talking about how lore heavy this show is despite doing nothing new. And the Pyke Syndicate isn't some 2deep4you lore crap. They are literally everywhere in Disney Wars and even got shoved into the fucking Disney films. And of course he's getting excited for Shadow the Chewbacca since he has a hard-on for Dr. FUCKING Aphra MD. Same with his hard-on for Wendig's trash. The guy has zero standards. Even when Disney fucked him over he continued to find excuses to support them to the point where there was a bike cuck meme somewhere with his face on it.

And this is his pinned comment under the video.
“I really LOVED this episode. Can't believe they put Black in canon. He's gonna be insane. Maybe we'll see him fight Kenobi just like in canon. Have a great day and see you next week!”

A lot of people keep forcing this bullshit idea that Shadow the Chewbacca is some sort of old pre-Disney character. The edgy mutt was made in 2015 as a cheap Boba sidekick because Disney wanted to turn Boba into the anti-Han Solo for his upcoming film, but it didn't work out so they dumped him onto Dr. FUCKING Aphra.

I love hearing people freak out over the Prequel flashbacks. "Oh my god, there's a shot of Kamino! Nothing is happening in this shot and nothing is being conveyed that wasn't already obvious, BUT IT'S A SHOT OF KAMINO!"

Its always about the memberberries, like the consoomers who were literally drooling and screaming because Filoni recreated scenes from ROTS for TCW season 7, or jizzing over RO for having Mustafar as Vader's new home and that edgier recreation of ANH's intro despite all that just making Vader look like a drama whore.

Its all about the prequel references.

 

[Newman's Lovechild]

The absolute state of Star Wars: relying on prequel memberberries.

Pictured: late stage autism. The only thing after this is arranging your Funko Pops in alphabetical order of their most common fanfic ship.

Episode 2 of Boba fat was again, nothing special, nothing terrible. He makes friends with Tuscans

I hope he had a good time sampling the local chiantis.

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Picturesque hilltowns, Renaissance cities, and great wining and dining make Tuscany one of Italy's top travel destinations.

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Tatooine was only important in old canon because Jabba's empire was the biggest in the outer rim

You're the richest, most successful crime lord of your race of crime lords. You're all essentially giant slugs with turkey arms. Of all the planets under your sway, which would be the most appropriate to make your main residence, the most opulent, the most comfortable and beneficial to your species?

a useless sandball

I have a feeling 'Jabba is the most powerful Hutt' is a bit of flanderization, similar to the awe heaped upon a bounty hunter with two lines and an embarassing death.

 

[The Valeyard]

I have a feeling 'Jabba is the most powerful Hutt' is a bit of flanderization, similar to the awe heaped upon a bounty hunter with two lines and an embarassing death.

In Marvel‘s Not!SotE event comics the other members of the Hutt Council were killed by Darth Vader, leaving Jabba as the most powerful Hutt by default.

 

[Midwit]

Another thing I've noticed, does anyone think that a lot of the newer blaster designs in Star Wars look more like toys than they do firearms?

Spoiler: Compare Boba's blaster

Spoiler: to Fennec's

Spoiler: and Coldsteel the Wookhog's.

They all seem blocky and overdesigned compared to a lot of the original designs, and are far more modernised in their general aesthetic. Maybe it's just me trying to find things to complain about but it just feels really out of place once you notice it, I also had a similar issue with the sequels and how a lot of the design work just didn't feel like it fit into the Star Wars universe,

Of all the planets under your sway, which would be the most appropriate to make your main residence, the most opulent, the most comfortable and beneficial to your species?

I'm pretty sure he picked Tatooine precisely because it was a backwater shithole with no importance to the greater galaxy, likely both to display his opulence to a bunch of dirty sand farmers and to make his fellow sluggas uncomfortable in the harsh climate. Jabba's presence is really the only thing that puts Tatooine on the map and without him it should've fallen into being even more irrelevent than it already is, but if that were the case then maybe we'd get something interesting out of this show rather than it just being another by the numbers story of a vaguely-but-not-really criminal hero fighting against a bunch of shallow antagonists whilst nothing interesting actually happens. I miss Kyle Katarn.

 

[Ghostse]

No. It is fact.

In the Abram's Star Trek movie, the two universes exist parallel to one another. Further, the concept of multiverse is indicative of an infinite number of universes. It is not cope to say that if tomorrow CBS handed me the rights to Star Trek I could say, "Welp, that all happened in Star Trek Universe Shit. Shitverse Picard and Discovery and Abrams are all over there. Over here in OT Trek verse Picard had a stroke after Nemesis and passed away. Discovery never happened." I could do that, because of the nature of Trek and how JJ and Bad Robots contract worked. Star Trek wanted to preserve more than one continuity and thanks to things like Mirror, Mirror you can do that in Star Trek.

Star Wars doesn't have that. It's always been one, linear universe.

Daily Reminder the JJ-verse exists because of legal requirements from the break up of Viacom.
No one in JJ's movies uses the trademarked word "Phaser"

 

[Michael Wade]

The issue with the crime lord shit is that I have no frame of reference for why anyone is actually doing anything other than Jabba's cousins wanting his shit back. There's so much stuff that the audience should be aware of, such as:

• Why is Tatooine so important?
• Why does Boba suddenly want to be a Daimyo?
• Why is everyone saying Daimyo all of a sudden?
• Why do the Pikes have a jet powered repulsor train carrying spice through the desert?
• Why is everybody so concerned with Boba not being carried by a team of slaves?

Though to this episode's credit you do get to see Boba doing some actual bounty hunting, shame it was by accident.

i'm fairly certain the flashbacks are to build up the reason's why he's changed in personality and motivation.


The train part was a reference to the old western practice of shooting though window's at bufflo's

It was rather rule of the cool, but I dug it. Im actually liking the flashbacks more then the present day scenes. Especially enjoyed the montage of boba teaching the sand people how to ride speeder bikes and him casually saving some moisture farmers. Ive always been a sucker for fun Indian shit.

In my head, im assuming the whole snafu with Boba and the huts is because Bib Fortuna was essentially a front man for them. They are only now starting to give a shit because the payments are not coming in on time.

Phasma, like the Porgs and the other weird stuff in Disney Star Wars, was just a marketing ploy for toys. This is a case where Mauler was right about her, since her action figure sold relatively well at the time of TFA.

“Hey, look at that cool chrome Stormtrooper!”

The problem with phasma is that even in her own books she's a bitch. She backstabs allies for personal gain, is cowardly when her life is on the line and is basically a less charismatic starscream when you think about it. She could have worked if they put a little bit more ham into her being evil, but they couldn't even manage that.

ETA: At 5:46 he says, “If you didn’t hear me in the beginning I believe that this is probably the most heartfelt, mystic, heroic, and moving bit of Star Wars that I’ve seen since Revenge of the Sith and for me even trumps the return of Luke Skywalker in The Mandalorian season 2 simply because this episode in its entirety was so moving, and so lore-filled and so beautiful and didn’t just have the nostalgic and wow factor feel of a cool character returning.”

I like the show so far, but it's definitely not THAT good.