Debate user BoxerShorts47 on "strawmans" and logical fallacies, definitions of ephebophilia, how to MAGA, religion, Sailor Moon and more

[RadioactiveMonkeyMan]

this is contrary to, like, all of human history bro

i hate when you exceptional faggots act like you know shit about the way things are and why they're that way

Dude, wait till he finds out white people used to enslave other white people. You know, if he ever bothers to find out.

 

[Ultrapenguin]

But even then "age gap" itself is modern concept. In the past people valued women for fertility. They wanted to know that the man would provide and treat her right. It didn't matter if he was 15 or 25.
This goes to show that your mind has been totally wrapped because of modern AoC laws.

The reason it's natural for normal men to prefer women who display maturity is because as a species our children require a lot of investment, it's over a decade to even reach puberty. While a man is out doing other shit, their partner is going to be the one responsible for rearing one's child. If you have a dippy 15 year old who takes terrible care of herself while pregnant and accidentally puts drain cleaner in your kid's sippy cup or lets it get eaten by a wild dog because they're weak and/or stupid, that'll have major reproductive consequences. The loss in fertility caused by waiting until a woman is, say, in their mid 20s is vastly outstripped by what they gain in fitness as a mother.

The reason it's natural for other people to tell you to keep your hands off teenagers is specifically because the people who target them are consistently either deadbeats (those who can't care for a family) or extreme narcissists (those who won't).
If AOC laws didn't exist then it would be the family controlling access. That's why when older men and younger women were paired, it was traditionally always through arranged marriages. However if families/communities are unable to address a given undesirable behavior (which becomes increasingly difficult as population density and community fragmentation increases) then people delegate that responsibility to the government.


And yeah, you're right, there are stupid chicks who never mature past their teens anyways, but the overriding point is that society has nothing to gain by lowering the age of consent.

That's why your obsession with the law itself is so weird and faggy, because if you said "The law is stupid, I'm going to go take over a small nation by force and there age of consent is going to be 14" you'd be delusional, but at least it would seem less pathetic in spirit.
But your conceit is "I'm going to sit here whining and trying to make arguments as to why you're stupid if you don't think I should be able to screw 14 year olds then everyone will pat me on the head and let me screw 14 year olds pretty please?" so not only are you an obsessive creep, but you're also a pussy and a whiny indolent retard.

 

[BoxerShorts47]

Morality isn't determined by group consent. Just because the majority of people are ok with something doesn't make it moral. Just because pedophilia is seen as wrong by the majority of people doesn't make it immoral or not. The reason most people see pedophilia as wrong is because it is immoral. There is a natural dislike of it and only very strong things change that (be it mental illness, religions, customs, etc.).

Midwit garbage. What is morality? It's what people agree is right and wrong. In the past people said AoC 12 was okay so that was moral. Now people say 18 is okay so that is moral. Morality is simply what groups determine is right and wrong. Morality is 100% arbitrary.

If morality was fixed then the left could have never normalized race mixing, homosexuality, casual sex, drug usage or now transgenderism. These were all immoral at some point in time.

 

[Kermit Jizz]

Midwit garbage. What is morality? It's what people agree is right and wrong. In the past people said AoC 12 was okay so that was moral. Now people say 18 is okay so that is moral. Morality is simply what groups determine is right and wrong. Morality is 100% arbitrary.

If morality was fixed then the left could have never normalized race mixing, homosexuality, casual sex, drug usage or now transgenderism. These were all immoral at some point in time.

More pseudo intellectual garbage while calling other midwits. Even removing the pedo angle of your garbage, your immense stupidity still angers me. "Morality is just what people agree on" is a retarded angsty teenager take on morality.

WHY NIGGER, WHY. The question is WHY they came to that consensus, they didn't just manifest it out of thin air you nigger. Of course you won't enagege the why because it boils down to fucking kids is degenerate and ruins their lives. Die pedo, die.

 

[BoxerShorts47]

The question is WHY they came to that consensus, they didn't just manifest it out of thin air you nigger.

No, it's not.
Look at Mr Girl. His argument is that rape should be legal because it's exciting. If people agree with him, then rape will be decriminalized.
The reason doesn't matter. All that matters is consensus.

 

[IKOL]

If people agree with him, then rape will be decriminalized.

Just a very insignificant amount of smooth brains compared to the country.
Nobody in their sane mind would decriminalize rape/sexual assault on anybody. why are you so retarded ebanashka?

 

[BoxerShorts47]

Just a very insignificant amount of smooth brains compared to the country.
Nobody in their sane mind would decriminalize rape/sexual assault on anybody. why are you so retarded ebanashka?

people said the same thing about race mixing or drug usage or causal sex (seduction) or borders or stealing and murder (criminal justice reform).
society can criminalize or decriminalize anything.

 

[IKOL]

people said the same thing about race mixing or drug usage or causal sex (seduction) or borders or stealing and murder (criminal justice reform).
society can criminalize or decriminalize anything.

1. Race mixing still considered to be questionable ethics that border with eugenics.
2. Drug usage is still a crime in most countries. the fact that weed is decriminalized in some corners of the globe doesn't mean shit, like with your previous statement it's just a minor fracture from overall picture, and drug usage is still criminal.
3.seduction was a no-no in Islamic countries (unironically still is) and in Medieval Europe due religious beliefs. Last time I remind you, we don't live in Medieval Era anymore, for more than 2 fucking centuries.
4.how are borders a crime? illegal trespassing sure is.
5.stealing never was a good thing and still is the criminal activity. Nothing wrong there.
6.Murder was permitted only in three instances: war, fight for honor and revenge for atge murdered member of the family.

 

[BoxerShorts47]

Drug usage is still a crime in most countries. the fact that weed is decriminalized in some corners of the globe doesn't mean shit

No point in responding to the rest of your points. This one is sufficient. The fact that drug usage was criminalized is now decriminalized does matter. It proves that morality changes. People said in the past that decriminalizing drug usage was horrible but it still happened just like people like you say lowering age of consent is horrible today. History proves that you're just a reactionary and you're too stupid to realize how morality works. You need to grow up. Come back when you gain a real world perspective.

 

[zero-who]

Midwit garbage. What is morality? It's what people agree is right and wrong. In the past people said AoC 12 was okay so that was moral. Now people say 18 is okay so that is moral. Morality is simply what groups determine is right and wrong. Morality is 100% arbitrary.

Can we stop with the semantics already?

Say why you want to fuck kids. You clearly do, or else you wouldn't be arguing about the age of consent for 567 pages and counting.

 

[IKOL]

No point in responding to the rest of your points

Okay pedo.

The fact that drug usage was criminalized is now decriminalized does matter. It proves that morality changes.

it's still criminalized you fucknuckle, just because weed got legalised it doesn't mean the overall usage of drugs is allowed too.
Unlike the rest of drugs weed have at least some positive impact on health condition.

People said in the past that decriminalizing drug usage was horrible but it still happened just like people like you say lowering age of consent is horrible today.

You really that retarded aren't... why do I even ask OF COURSE YOU ARE.

History proves that you're just a reactionary and you're too stupid to realize how morality works

That's not up to you to judge me or anyone in this thread, nobody among these who disagree with you wants drop AoC lower for legally banging kids puss.

You need to grow up.

Again, not up to you to judge not speak of this matter.

Come back when you gain a real world perspective.

Oh I do have a real world perspective, both countrywide and worldwide.

 

[Stardust]

people said the same thing about race mixing

Boxy, you're a racial mutt. You are, so long as you exist, campaigning against your own beliefs. Also, ACCORDING TO YOUR OWN DUMB LAWS, being of mixed race you cannot have power in the white ethnostate, let alone breed more mongoloids.

 

[Sped Xing]

"Morality is a social construct, therefore it is meaningless."

OK SJW.

 

[IKOL]

Boxy, you're a racial mutt. You are, so long as you exist, campaigning against your own beliefs. Also, ACCORDING TO YOUR OWN DUMB LAWS, being of mixed race you cannot have power in the white ethnostate, let alone breed more mongoloids.

He can't do that anyway, children simply would not survive the giving birth, as well as his offspring.

 

[Duke Nukem]

That's not true.

You could become a hooker for guys and stuff your mouth with gay guys' cocks so they don't have to hear you talk. But judging from your responses on this forum you'd probably like that.

>literal retard wants to abolish school
Just cause it was useless for you doesn't mean it was for the rest of us.

To be fair it's not the worst idea he's ever had, I don't think the one size fits all model of public schooling is working. Especially not in inner city America.

But let's be honest he wants it abolished because he's not let in so he can get fap fodder for his life in mom's basement.

 

[Stardust]

To be fair it's not the worst idea he's ever had, I don't think the one size fits all model of public schooling is working. Especially not in inner city America.

But let's be honest he wants it abolished because he's not let in so he can get fap fodder for his life in mom's basement.

Here's what makes this extra retarded though. Boxy claims to have a degree, but if he abolishes the education system, this makes said degree - from this education system he detests - null and void. In other words, this faggot cucks himself again.

 

[Sped Xing]

Now hear me out

To literally cuck himself, Box must fuck himself while he watches, which means you need three of him. This way he can take eight hour shifts to be online 24 / 7 arguing about how he deserves an illiterste virgin tradwife preschooler.

But the other two just keep fucking and sucking, so we never hear from them, just poor third wheel box, who vents his rage on this forum in between jacking off thinking about 69ing himself.

 

[Stardust]

Now hear me out

To literally cuck himself, Box must fuck himself while he watches, which means you need three of him. This way he can take eight hour shifts to be online 24 / 7 arguing about how he deserves an illiterste virgin tradwife preschooler.

But the other two just keep fucking and sucking, so we never hear from them, just poor third wheel box, who vents his rage on this forum in between jacking off thinking about 69ing himself.

This makes so much sense. Even another Boxy thinks he's a faggot, so rejects him. Rejected by yourselves, feels bad man.

 

[Duke Nukem]

Here's what makes this extra retarded though. Boxy claims to have a degree, but if he abolishes the education system, this makes said degree - from this education system he detests - null and void. In other words, this faggot cucks himself again.

If anything, the fact that someone like Boxy even got a degree is a pretty damning indictment of the public education system as a whole. Probably not as bad as the Baltimore public schools though, because they've graduated students who can barely read.

This makes so much sense. Even another Boxy thinks he's a faggot, so rejects him. Rejected by yourselves, feels bad man.

He's such an unattractive and pathetic nonce that even he won't fuck himself.

 

[Sped Xing]

He's such an unattractive and pathetic nonce that even he won't fuck himself.

He's an adult.