Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread - Got too big

[Meriasek]

Going to be an interesting couple weeks as the data and results from the Omicron spike comes in. They seem to be playing dumb about it. Early results of the pre-Christmas data seems to show that it is way weaker than what came before. Only a matter of time before there aren't any folks that don't have any immunity left and all the cases are either reinfections or vaccinated. It's moving quick.

I guess they are waiting on polling data and word from their political handlers on how they are going to spin it. They can't kick the can down the road forever though I'm sure they will consider it.

There are several narrative strands here in Germany.
One is that Omicron may be mild, but "mild" is still super bad (often repeated on Twitter with a picture of the WHO definition of "mild", meaning oxygen mask, obscuring that this table means "mild in the hospital", not "mild in general"). Then there's "Omicron is mild, but if too many get infected everything collapses anyway from quarantine". The third is "Omicron may be mild now but it'll totally mutate back into something much more deadly if we don't vaccinate everyone right now and every four month".
Note that all of the narratives demand mandatory vaccines and exclude ending the fearmongering at any point.

/edit:

https://twitter.com/Parsifaler/status/1479829397154799618

Some guy on Twitter tries to explain those heart attacks. I don't understand shit, of course, something about the spike protein messing with some receptors causing a calcium channelopathy leading to a potentially fatal arrythmia.
I don't really see how this would cause heart attacks way after injection, though, and it sounds like this is mainly happening when you have the spike protein in you while you're getting heart rate above 120 or something.
If it's a calcium channel thing, maybe Amlodipin, a calcium channel blocker used to treat hypertension, can be helpful?

 

[Jar-Jar Fanboy]

Do they say how old they are, on average, respectively?

I first went back to the government of Ontario's site, but they didn't give an age breakdown. I did find a report from the government of Canada that covers the entire country, though. For hospitalizations, it's primarily 50+, which is expected. 24.3% are 80+, 19% are 70-79, 17.8% are 60-69, and 14.7% are 50-59. The 40-49s drop to about 9.5%, and it only decreases further from there. For Canada's ICU Covid admissions, the highest group is actually 60-69 year olds, making up 26.1%. 22% are 70-79, and 20% are 50-59, and that makes up the bulk of it. The 80+ age range only makes up 9.5% of ICU admission. So, back to just Ontario, they're most likely 60+. But, other interesting thing I found when first checking was that as of writing this, the amount of ICU patients in Ontario contain 123 unvaxxed, and... 137 fully vaxxed, and then some partially vaxxed tossed in there. So, still about 50/50, now in favour of the fully vaxxed. Pandemic of the unvaccinated, my ass

 

[Justa Grata Honoria]

Im not saying this is a depopulation plot but uhhh, assuming it if was, what else would the powers that be do differently to achieve it?

Because its the wrong population that is taking them, its the mindless coonsoomers and ever loyal to corporate fashism apartichiks that are lining up first. You can't go to Mohamed and Jamal and tell them licence please without a swat team . You literally have backyard slaughter operations in most african and muzzie neighborhoods , backyard bakery operating with no licences and fees that fills the state coffers . Ask how Mohamed and Jamal act working in nursing homes compared to peng and tim. You all know the answer. Anything beyond low skilled jobs they can't fill and they managed to vaccinate the petty bourgeoisie in every country before the chimps . Literally look who isn't taking the vaccine under any threat and cost is shizos and people who will fuck the government six ways to Sunday over the pettiest shit not the nigger cattle who is obedient to the level of suicide. Try to imagine a western state filled by just non vaccinated . Is literally not governable and you are going to need a lot more force and strength to herd us . Not to mention our kids will be equally same because they literally selected for that

Did i mention all the countries with vaccination rates below 20 per cent have insanely high birth rates. Yeah they will kill off the 4 bilion obedient and highly skilled cattle. And we will be back to 8 billion with in 2100 because most of the growth in population is coming from africa and few abject shitholes that again have almost next to zero vaccination rate. I don't think the globalists have armies at disposal and they will be ran over by the first African warlord who will realize how much they can get by killing loot burn their estate

So some real talk for all you turbo autismos. I need to mildly powerlevel for you all because this shit is serious and I need a collective internet brain to fight it.

I have a 5 year old daughter. She's gone through this shit pretty well. She hates masks and I don't make her wear them. This shit started when she was 3 and I was not going to hide human faces from her. The issue facing me now is the recent mandate down to 5 year Olds. I have 50/50 custody and the custody agreement bars "non emergency" medical treatment absent bilateral agreement.

Unfortunately the other half of thr 50/50 split is a Branch Covidian. Who has told me because of Omicron my daughter (age 5) HAS to get the jab. I won't call it a vaccination because I know already it's not a vaccination.

This is the kicker. My daughter has already had Delta COVID. She coughed and sniffled for a few days, threw up in school, got diagnosed and went into State mandated quarantine. I should add I was the one who supervised the quarantine incidentally. She was perfectly fine

But now I am being ganged up on with the pediatrician who also wants to give the jab. I have a meeting tomorrow where I either have to hold my ground or surrender.

My abiding concerns are thus.

My daughter has natural immunity already. Okay says I, but the pediatrician says adding the jab makes the immunity even better!

But the jab is not sequenced to Omicron, and when I asked what it was sequenced for I was told it was Sars-COV-2-Wuhan, not the Omicron variant.

My second concern is that natural immunity reacts very badly to the Pfizer Jab specifically. I am not sure why, but I believe it's because the memory T and B immune cells freak out and think a virus pulled a fast one on them and trigger a cytokene storm.

My third concern is that if my daughter gets the jab, she won't develop natural immunity to this shit show while she is young and healthy.

My fourth concern is philosophical in that I don't believe 5 year Olds need to be put on the front line for the benefit of society. Which is essentially what the pediatrician said. We don't want kids being a reservoir for the virus.

And my fifth concern is the Pfizer jab is pointless. Like all Cold viruses before it, the Kung Flu has evolved faster then we can keep up.

Am I off base here? I have to go to the mat tomorrow.

Lawyer i am dead serious. If you love your child you will drag this nonsense in the courts for few years. By that time phizer executives will probably hang . Other option is packing up and leaving for Mexico or any shithole and disappearing for a decade. By the end of this shitshow nobody will care about deranged Karens Spawn missing. Even if half of the bs the tin foil hatters claim isnt true there is collapse and chaos coming in global trade and wars incoming. Especially if you are in usa . You can come back and bribe your way out of the mess if that happens. God speed . And my god be on your side .

 

[theshitposter]

> my mother in law died after taking vaccine
> muh unvaxxed grandpa recovered
> i died after taking the booster
> reeeeeee

someone mercy nuke this thread

 

[Zbk3VmLfujjzjxBd43tL]

Because its the wrong population that is taking them, its the mindless coonsoomers and ever loyal to corporate fashism apartichiks that are lining up first. You can't go to Mohamed and Jamal and tell them licence please without a swat team . You literally have backyard slaughter operations in most african and muzzie neighborhoods , backyard bakery operating with no licences and fees that fills the state coffers . Ask how Mohamed and Jamal act working in nursing homes compared to peng and tim. You all know the answer. Anything beyond low skilled jobs they can't fill and they managed to vaccinate the petty bourgeoisie in every country before the chimps . Literally look who isn't taking the vaccine under any threat and cost is shizos and people who will fuck the government six ways to Sunday over the pettiest shit not the nigger cattle who is obedient to the level of suicide. Try to imagine a western state filled by just non vaccinated . Is literally not governable and you are going to need a lot more force and strength to herd us . Not to mention our kids will be equally same because they literally selected for that

This is why my favorite conspiracy theory about the scamdemic is that it actually is a population control scheme, but Klaus Schwab and Bill Gates are deliberately killing all the mindless NPCs so all the smart, freethinking survivors (white people) can help them rule over all the dumb survivors (black and brown people) because they're actually secretly redpilled.

Did i mention all the countries with vaccination rates below 20 per cent have insanely high birth rates. Yeah they will kill off the 4 bilion obedient and highly skilled cattle. And we will be back to 8 billion with in 2100 because most of the growth in population is coming from africa and few abject shitholes that again have almost next to zero vaccination rate. I don't think the globalists have armies at disposal and they will be ran over by the first African warlord who will realize how much they can get by killing loot burn their estate

The globalists don't need armies when they have mercenaries like every single American who signed up for the military to get free college/free trade school. It's not hard at all to pay off an African warlord to shoot at another African warlord and take his shit, I mean it's how the French have run like half of Africa the past 60 years and the US ran Central America most of history.

> my mother in law died after taking vaccine
> muh unvaxxed grandpa recovered
> i died after taking the booster
> reeeeeee

someone mercy nuke this thread

I hope you do too.

 

[Fliddaroonie]

Not only do the vaccines fuck up women's menstruation schedules, but I've also heard of many cases where post-menopausal women had vaginal bleeding shortly after taking the jab. How much time is gonna pass until the world finds out what kind of garbage they've been injecting into people?

I have a close family member this happened to. Fifteen years post-menopause, she bled for over two weeks. Only got a Doctor to see her because she pushed hard for it, and when he initially refused to book her in for a face-to-face appointment, she wrote to her MP and asked why she couldn't see anyone. The MPs office called the GP Surgery and asked WTF was happening, and then she finally got an appointment.

Something I have noticed among people having children: Lots of women giving birth early who have had the shots. Not necessarily SBs, but them getting close to full term, then being induced. However, I believe this could be due to healthcare staff being risk averse and trying to avoid women going FT with large babies and the complications that can arise from this.

It would be super, super interesting, in all the people speaking up, if an IVF tech could chip in though.


Oh, and in case anyone needs it pointed out : Abnormal periods, dysmenorrhoea, ALWAYS warrant further investigation. ALWAYS. I had it after the flu like 6 years back. And my GP was extremely worried, got me in for a physical, had me track my cycle for a couple of months after, took bloods, all that. If anyone is experiencing it, please push for an appointment. Do not let your clinical staff/GP/whatever fob you off. it needs to be looked into.

 

[George Lucas]

This thread got an unusual amount of boring anecdotes from people who largely haven’t even been posting in this thread. I don’t care about any of you fuckers’ grandmas.

California’s statewide mask mandate is extended to February. Bloody hell.

 

[X Prime]

What you personally do or do not care about is utterly irrelevant, not to mention utterly narcissistic to announce.

Dear God, whatever happened to just scrolling past?

 

[king_gosso]

Do they say how old they are, on average, respectively?

They're mostly 60+ in hospital and ICU. Same as every flu season.

The vacination rate for 60+ starts at 95% and reaches 100% at 80+.

There are also large number of "unknown" statuses. The best people can figure out is either people who took a vaccine not recognized OR immigrants that don't have valid ID.



Current stats indicate being vaxxed helps keep you out of the ICU. But if you look at the age demographics it makes no sense to be mass vaccinating younger people. Also, the proportion of vaccinated in ICU is accelerating faster week over week than the unvaccinated.

They have no end game and will just push for everyone to be boosted.

All stats compiled by https://twitter.com/golden_pup who just pulls from the publically available government data set.

 

[HTTP Error 404]

Lawyer i am dead serious. If you love your child you will drag this nonsense in the courts for few years. By that time phizer executives will probably hang . Other option is packing up and leaving for Mexico or any shithole and disappearing for a decade. By the end of this shitshow nobody will care about deranged Karens Spawn missing. Even if half of the bs the tin foil hatters claim isnt true there is collapse and chaos coming in global trade and wars incoming. Especially if you are in usa . You can come back and bribe your way out of the mess if that happens. God speed . And my god be on your side .

It's family court. The second it reaches a family court judge the judge is going to declare that the kid needs to get triple vaxxed and 6 boosters "for the good of the child" and oh yeah you lose all your parental rights until you take the jab and the boosters too "for the good of the child" and no, you can't appeal or argue this arbitrary decision by judicial fiat in any way.

This thread got an unusual amount of boring anecdotes from people who largely haven’t even been posting in this thread. I don’t care about any of you fuckers’ grandmas.

California’s statewide mask mandate is extended to February. Bloody hell.

February of what year?

 

[teriyakiburns]

February of what year?

All of them.

 

[X Prime]

Tomorrow is the deadline for OSHA requirements!

Are you excited?

 

[talk sh1t]

I first went back to the government of Ontario's site, but they didn't give an age breakdown. I did find a report from the government of Canada that covers the entire country, though. For hospitalizations, it's primarily 50+, which is expected. 24.3% are 80+, 19% are 70-79, 17.8% are 60-69, and 14.7% are 50-59. The 40-49s drop to about 9.5%, and it only decreases further from there. For Canada's ICU Covid admissions, the highest group is actually 60-69 year olds, making up 26.1%. 22% are 70-79, and 20% are 50-59, and that makes up the bulk of it. The 80+ age range only makes up 9.5% of ICU admission. So, back to just Ontario, they're most likely 60+. But, other interesting thing I found when first checking was that as of writing this, the amount of ICU patients in Ontario contain 123 unvaxxed, and... 137 fully vaxxed, and then some partially vaxxed tossed in there. So, still about 50/50, now in favour of the fully vaxxed. Pandemic of the unvaccinated, my ass

Once again, the amount of hospitalizations and ICU admissions would be much higher if everybody was unvaccinated.
Looking at the ICU cases: 123 unvaccinated plus 155 vaccinated (I'm including the partially vaccinated) for a total of 278.
Vaccination rate in Ontario for >12 years is 88% (from covid19.ontario.ca), so basically there's 7 vaccinated people for each unvaccinated person (88% is roughly 7/8 ). So if nobody was vaccinated, there would be 7 times more people in the ICU than there currently are unvaccinated. It would be 123 + 123*7 = 984, when it's currently 278.

 

[X Prime]

I was not aware it was now possible to peer into alternate timelines, including ones where government statistics are trusted.

 

[Titos]

As gay as lolbertarians are their worship of Friedrich Hayek is not unfounded. He specifically pointed out how scientists are the biggest faggots of them all and will make up the easiest excuse for totalitarian regimes because they rely on the government to fund their disgusting experiments on hamsters. They're psychopathic little bitches who should have been beaten and ridiculed more in school to the point they killed themselves. Fauci is living proof of this, or maybe just proof italians just don't deserve to live.
TL;DR Scientists are sick faggots who should be beaten in the streets to the point of unconsciousness and so should judges and teachers.

 

[wry wrangler]

Once again, the amount of hospitalizations and ICU admissions would be much higher if everybody was unvaccinated.
Looking at the ICU cases: 123 unvaccinated plus 155 vaccinated (I'm including the partially vaccinated) for a total of 278.
Vaccination rate in Ontario for >12 years is 88% (from covid19.ontario.ca), so basically there's 7 vaccinated people for each unvaccinated person (88% is roughly 7/8 ). So if nobody was vaccinated, there would be 7 times more people in the ICU than there currently are unvaccinated. It would be 123 + 123*7 = 984, when it's currently 278.

Most ICU admissions, like hospital admissions and deaths, are with but not of covid. Since they mostly stopped testing people who have taken the shots, a great majority of covid hospitalizations, intubations, and deaths were in those who haven't taken the shots, even though most of these are not hospitalized, intubated, or killed by covid. The truth continues to be that almost no one is hospitalized, intubated, or killed because of covid.

 

[fhqwhgads]

In Scotland, you can't get IVF treatment if you're unvaxxed.

Covid: I'm unvaccinated and can't get fertility treatment

The Scottish government has deferred IVF treatment for unvaccinated women over Omicron concerns.

www.bbc.co.uk

https://archive.is/ErfS6

The Scottish government has deferred fertility treatment for all patients who are not fully vaccinated - unless they are waiting to become eligible for a booster.

It said the decision was based on uncertainty about how pregnant women were affected by the Omicron variant amid rising cases.

Push to get pregnant women jabbed:

A number of clinicians, as well as patient and government representatives, had met to discuss the decision to defer fertility treatment.

Fertility expert Dr Abha Maheshwari, who was among clinicians to advise the government on the matter, urged anyone who was pregnant or was considering pregnancy to get the Covid-19 vaccine.

She said: "I appreciate women are concerned about anything externally going in their bodies especially when they are trying for pregnancy but there is plenty of data and all the bodies which are advising on vaccines are very, very clear that vaccines are very safe whether you take it in pregnancy... [or] are trying to get pregnant.

"The data very much shows those who are in critical care are mostly unvaccinated, those who are getting admitted to hospital are mostly unvaccinated. There is evidence of poor outcomes in Covid for unvaccinated pregnant women - those who are unvaccinated are more likely to get the disease and if they are pregnant obviously they are at a high risk."

Here is what the Scottish government have to say about this:

Coronavirus (COVID-19): fertility treatment for unvaccinated patients

Chief Medical Officer letters to health boards concerning temporary deferral of fertility treatment for patients not fully vaccinated against COVID-19.

www.gov.scot

https://archive.is/GuOro

The latest evidence from the UK Obstetric Surveillance System (UKOSS) and the Mothers and Babies: Reducing Risk through Audits and Confidential Enquiries across the UK (MBRRACE-UK) showed that unvaccinated pregnant women and their babies have died after admission to hospital with COVID-19 and 98% of pregnant women in ICU with COVID-19 were unvaccinated. According to recent data reported by Public Health Scotland, pregnant women with COVID-19 have a higher risk of severe disease requiring admission to critical care than non-pregnant women of a similar age.

With the arrival of the Delta variant increased numbers of pregnant women have been admitted to hospital with moderate to severe COVID-19 symptoms requiring critical care. The Scottish Intensive Care Society Report (SICSAG) Report, published on 13 October, highlighted that of the 89 COVID-19 positive pregnant women who were admitted to critical care between December 2020 and end September 2021, 88 were unvaccinated, 1 was partially vaccinated, and none was fully vaccinated.

As advised by the JCVI, COVID-19 continues to pose a significant risk to unvaccinated pregnant women and their babies, therefore I recommend that fertility treatment should be deferred for patients who are not fully vaccinated against COVID-19. This applies to NHS services providing any fertility treatment (with the exception of Fertility Preservation) aimed at creating a pregnancy.

Omicron, still so much uncertainty:

We are now seeing an exponential rise in cases of Omicron, with increased transmissibility. As there is still uncertainty around the impact of this variant on pregnant women, and whilst the Delta variant continues to account for a significant number of cases in the UK, a more cautious approach to fertility treatment in unvaccinated women is now recommended. This overall approach is a protective one and based on the robust published evidence. "

No evidence that the jabs affect fertility:

The COVID-19 vaccines are safe and effective and NHS Scotland strongly recommends people get the vaccine when offered. There is no evidence to suggest that the COVID-19 vaccines will affect fertility in women or men.

Why are they doing this now and not before with the other variants?

 

[teriyakiburns]

Once again, the amount of hospitalizations and ICU admissions would be much higher if everybody was unvaccinated.

This can't be stated as fact. The vaccine trials were ended early and the control groups were vaccinated, meaning that there's little useful data about how much of a difference the vaccines actually make to hospitalisation and mortality. Back-calculating from statistics can be useful, but not that useful without knowing how the vaccine alters relative and absolute risk. What little we've seen from the trials showed that there was virtually no difference in infection rate between vaccinated and unvaccinated people, which alters the arithmetic somewhat.

 

[NoSpiceLife]

Was curious about the hpv situation as compares and found this:

So these weird periods very well COULD be the first sign of POI, and if that is the case, we will see mass infertility manifesting in a more obvious way in 2-5 years.

This is very similar to the timeline for myocarditis fatalities.

Gives you a big ole thunk, don't it?

I've been saying for years (with I'm not sure that you would call it evidence, definitely documentation though), that the 'explosion' of PCOS in females has a direct correlation with the HPV vaccine. No one seems to give a damn though.

People keep asking why, no matter how many times evidence is offered up, you are still asking why.

Why is it so hard to see the common denominator?

 

[Super-Chevy454]

I first went back to the government of Ontario's site, but they didn't give an age breakdown. I did find a report from the government of Canada that covers the entire country, though. For hospitalizations, it's primarily 50+, which is expected. 24.3% are 80+, 19% are 70-79, 17.8% are 60-69, and 14.7% are 50-59. The 40-49s drop to about 9.5%, and it only decreases further from there. For Canada's ICU Covid admissions, the highest group is actually 60-69 year olds, making up 26.1%. 22% are 70-79, and 20% are 50-59, and that makes up the bulk of it. The 80+ age range only makes up 9.5% of ICU admission. So, back to just Ontario, they're most likely 60+. But, other interesting thing I found when first checking was that as of writing this, the amount of ICU patients in Ontario contain 123 unvaxxed, and... 137 fully vaxxed, and then some partially vaxxed tossed in there. So, still about 50/50, now in favour of the fully vaxxed. Pandemic of the unvaccinated, my ass

It would be interesting to see the datas of the other provinces as well.

Btw, here one interesting article about the vaccinated.

Are the vaccinated harming their immune systems?

Here is some number-crunching. Using natural immunity as a base and the fully vaccinated to mean two mRNA shots, we can conclude the following: An unassailable stat from the Israelis, which made Fauci change his guidance from

www.americanthinker.com

January 9, 2022

Are the vaccinated harming their immune systems?​

By James T. Moodey

Here is some number-crunching. Using natural immunity as a base and the fully vaccinated to mean two mRNA shots, we can conclude the following:
An unassailable stat from the Israelis, which made Fauci change his guidance from "if you are fully vaccinated, you will not catch it" to "if you are fully vaccinated, you can still catch it and spread it," was that the fully vaccinated in Israel were 6–13 times more likely to catch the D variant than the naturally immune population.
And the first decent-sized sample regarding omicron shows that the fully vaccinated are 2.61 times more likely to catch omicron than the D variant.
So 2.61 times 6 is 15.66.
And 2.61 times 13 is 33.93.
Given the two studies of actual results, fully vaccinated people are 15.66 to 33.93 times more likely to catch omicron than people who were never vaccinated and caught COVID (natural immunity).
Anyone with a numerical brainstem can see that the more people vaccinate, the more likely they will get sick from a variant.
This seems to comport with Nobel Laureate virology professor Luc Montagnier's conclusion that it is the vaccine that is creating the variants. From this article, "Prof. Montagnier referred to the vaccine program for the coronavirus as an 'unacceptable mistake.'" "The history books will show that, because it is the vaccination that is creating the variants."
It seems the vaccines are actually harming the natural immune system, at least with regard to the variants.