General Discussion for Virtual Youtubers / Vtubers / Chuubas - it's okay to be a simp for 2D, just don't thirstpost.

[Azchan]

Why does any pippa colab degenerate into pure tism energy? She is normalish with tenma.

To be fair it was part of the RP process. Had she known the people better or a "no-shitposting" rule would have been better enforced she would've probably been a bit more serious with it. She says she wants to continue doing this once a week so im guessing she will be back. All chat's gotta do is to convince her to roleplay as someone less autistic than Chris-chan and see if she can actually be more extroverted during the RP.

She should roleplay as Lia.

The Berne Convention and Anglosphere law oblige music publishers to offer a "compulsory license" for all the songs they own. It means anyone can cover or karaoke almost any song—as long as they don't re-release a label-owned sound recording for profit. Publishers/labels/etc. are striking songs they have no lawful right to strike, and YouTube/Google goes along with it because it hurts their competition more than it hurts them. A company that can afford to fight wrongful strikes, e.g. Cover/Holo, needs to stand up and say "Fuck off." Judicial precedent exists and is very clear. It just has to be re-enforced against YouTube's collusion with unlawful copyright claims.

I think there is an issue with Cover doing this (other than the obvious, Japanese company wont do shit). The girls sing karaoke and stream it, they can claim its fair use but the girls still get revenue from Ads and in the form of Superchats. Music labels can just argue that they are technically profiting from the song. While a wedding or small band can also do the same, its not as easy to track as it literally being right there on the internet for everyone else to see in video form.

 

[That Collab Hurt Me]

IDC if late, please god let Tenma collab with the Hank Hill vtuber

 

[moments fade pain remains]

That happened. It wasn't much, but we got a sneak peak for Kronii's kimono stream.

 

[Cubanodun]

IDC if late, please god let Tenma collab with the Hank Hill vtuber

Clear your schedule

 

[RiverBear]

Completely unrelated to the thread, but the current goings on RE: Twitch and the lazy as fuck "Let's just watch broadcast TV and Movies on Stream LMAO" actually makes me want to see some major corpo sue the absolute fuck out of some mindless mouthbreater like Hasan, Sodapoppin, xQC or any of the other multi-millionaires who are too fucking lazy to make their own damn content and just put on Masterchef and eat their takeout and barely say a word. These fucking nitwits are poking a giant that will absolutely destroy the ecology of Twitch if they don't get in line fucking yesterday.

Pokimane was banned the other day because Viacom copyright struck her for just outright streaming Avatar the Last Airbender on her stream. Her response?

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Bitch acts like she gets a two day vacation, and will have double the viewership from fucking simps upon her stream starting later today/tomorrow.

MEANWHILE everyone else is going to have to deal with the fallout because you know what? Guess what was the first major start of content lockdown on YouTube back in the day? Oh yea, it was fucking VIACOM suing them for a billion dollars.

Viacom International Inc. v. YouTube, Inc. - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

These fucks are going to destroy their own website with their brazen attitudes. I only hope that Twitch gets their Silicon Valley thumbs out of their asses long enough to just full ban one or more of them to make an example of them and knock some fucking sense into everyone else. Someone's head needs to be on a pike or these idiots won't learn unfortunately.

Hasan did get copyright claimed.

Is the Twitch MasterChef meta over? Hasan receives DMCA strike over TV show

Twitch streamer Hasan Piker has received a DMCA copyright claim from Fox Network after watching MasterChef live numerous times.

www.dexerto.com

 

[Renmai]

Hasan did get copyright claimed.

Is the Twitch MasterChef meta over? Hasan receives DMCA strike over TV show

Twitch streamer Hasan Piker has received a DMCA copyright claim from Fox Network after watching MasterChef live numerous times.

www.dexerto.com

I was about to post this, part of the recent Twitch meta was to just stream entire seasons of Master Chef. It was funny seeing boomer Gordon Ramsay' finding out what twitch was, then Hasan got copyright claimed by Fox tv. We'll see if anything else happens.

https://twitter.com/GordonRamsay/status/1478925376172658688

https://twitter.com/GordonRamsay/status/1477820260078145537

https://twitter.com/triciaisabirdy/status/1477831525961920514

 

[Witthel]

This is sum good animation.

 

[Nolan Crush]

It's still Christmas until Fauna says it isn't.

 

[Takodachi]

Honey wake up, its not-pippa not-streaming time again

 

[One Quick Post]

I hate the streamers you mentioned but I legitimately do hate copyright bullshit as well. Everyone keeps shrieking about how they're poking the bear, but I would argue copyright holders have been doing that for a while now by copyright striking channels for even a few seconds of a clip or song.

I also doubt what they're doing could be considered fair use, as they're watching entire shows on stream while adding basically nothing. The scummy part is that these streamers are so rich that it wouldn't matter to them if they were permanently banned or even if the entire platform died, as they're already set for life

This entire conversation is off topic but I just want to say that it's always nice to see two sides that are completely and utterly unlikeable go for each other's throats. Pokimane and Viacom can go knife fight in a raging fire for all I care.

 

[kukkia]

According to the "detectives" at 4chan, the Nijimales aren't culled or at the very least, not culled as hard as the NijiGirls or the Holos

It seems unlikely to me that a bug would somehow hit the 10 female members of NijiEN but miss the 5 male ones. I think people just don't want to admit that the guys (or at least, Mysta, Vox, and to a lesser extent Luca) are more readily capable of pulling bigger CCV numbers than the NijiEN girls at this moment.

 

[Burnt Fish]

It seems unlikely to me that a bug would somehow hit the 10 female members of NijiEN but miss the 5 male ones. I think people just don't want to admit that the guys (or at least, Mysta, Vox, and to a lesser extent Luca) are more readily capable of pulling bigger CCV numbers than the NijiEN girls at this moment.

at this point I think 90% of the talk about this glitch or whatever is just people trying to justify random narratives.

"it targets the girls more" "it hits hololive harder"

Truth is this bug barely even matters. as far as we know it literally only matters in terms of numberfagging which ought to be discouraged. Youtube culling subsribers is one thing and a tangible issue. but Youtube incorrectly tracking a metric that doesn't even matter for the most part is just a complete nothingburger.

 

[Thomas Talus]

Truth is this bug barely even matters. as far as we know it literally only matters in terms of numberfagging which ought to be discouraged. Youtube culling subsribers is one thing and a tangible issue. but Youtube incorrectly tracking a metric that doesn't even matter for the most part is just a complete nothingburger.

Does it affect adsense revenue, or the price Susan charges to place ads on their videos? Does it affect the degree to which the algorithm pushes the videos to viewers?

 

[Chronic Lurker]

Numberfagging might not be an attractive or appealing thing to see, but for a content creator on YouTube or Twitch being able to have accurate data on what gains or loses views is kind of essential. If they can see all the data unaltered behind the scenes (which is what Selen said yesterday or the day before) then the live count we see doesn't matter much, but if the numbers they are seeing or that advertisers are seeing are being manipulated in any way then that is a big deal.

 

[Caxiente Amos]

Which one? I'm trying to summarize everything into about 10-12 minutes.

The dicking one

 

[Nolan Crush]

It's still Christmas until Fauna says it isn't.

Favroites were Jingle Bells, Let It Snow, Winter Wonderland, Last Christmas, Fly Me To The Moon, and All I Want For Christmas Is You. She's improved a little

 

[Burnt Fish]

Numberfagging might not be an attractive or appealing thing to see, but for a content creator on YouTube or Twitch being able to have accurate data on what gains or loses views is kind of essential. If they can see all the data unaltered behind the scenes (which is what Selen said yesterday or the day before) then the live count we see doesn't matter much, but if the numbers they are seeing or that advertisers are seeing are being manipulated in any way then that is a big deal.

Does it affect adsense revenue, or the price Susan charges to place ads on their videos? Does it affect the degree to which the algorithm pushes the videos to viewers?

And wasn't it also said that the number on the backend fixes it self a day later?

meaning it....... doesn't matter outside of in the moment numberfagging.

Looking on playboard right now seems to have the correct viewer count for Calli's kimono reveal stream. So any advertisers and folks that would matter have access to accurate data.

 

[Rezza]

Advertisers are probably given the accurate data by Youtube, unless if they're doing a due diligence by checking the channels themselves. But a group/corpo like Cover probably told any potential advertisers there's a "bug" or something and gave them the real numbers

 

[Thomas Talus]

And wasn't it also said that the number on the backend fixes it self a day later?

meaning it....... doesn't matter outside of in the moment numberfagging.

Looking on playboard right now seems to have the correct viewer count for Calli's kimono reveal stream. So any advertisers and folks that would matter have access to accurate data.

Isn't the first day the most important when it comes to getting impressions?

 

[Burnt Fish]

Isn't the first day the most important when it comes to getting impressions?

Youtube themselves know what the actual impressions are so it just doesn't matter. The person paying out for the impressions knows the situation and the correct numbers.

I think you have a lot more faith in the ability of the various moving parts of YT to effectively communicate with each other than I do.

Faith would be believing it without reason which is what I'm criticizing others of doing, just believing that this is harmful without actually looking into it.

I don't need to "have faith" in youtube to be counting those views when the youtubers themselves are confirming the views are still being added.

Go look at any vtuber on playboard and their tracking for their total views. It hasn't slowed down in the time this bug appeared. shit's still fine on that end.