Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread - Got too big

[The Wicked Mitch]

^ This, plus, if they admit they were wrong on one thing, then all of the other things that they were wrong about are going to come into question, even outside of COVID, and it'll just be like a snowball going down a hill. Said snowball will crash on top of TPTB (in Minecraft).

That's probably the most pertinent reason. You can only claim that people who doubt you are mentally ill far right extremists if you insist on being infallible. If you've been wrong before, perhaps multiple times, you lose the ability to shrug off any and all criticism.

 

[Zbk3VmLfujjzjxBd43tL]

Told you lol. And people will claim Gardasil is necessary for girls as their daughters are sterilized. Makes you wonder how many other childhood vaccines cause irreversible health effects...

I think there's a real hesitation to do research into it given the "MMR vaccine causes autism" debacle. Even though that vaccine doesn't cause autism, asking that question was a perfectly valid scientific inquiry and yet the guy lost his career over it. If you look at all the mass-vaccination in the West, we have decades of data to sift through to see which conditions have unusually risen and then we could look into it and try and find causes and even a control group with mostly unvaccinated immigrants. Granted, it may be hard to pick out the data from all sorts of other causes (i.e. chemicals in the home/environment).

Odds of anyone doing this is nil. Vaccines are considered infallible because they SAVE LIVES and Pharma doesn't want to waste the paying researchers to tell them their product is shit and force them to make a new one.

But if you're vaccinated, why are you worried?

Because Karen here is SO compassionate and full of empathy, she's being a GOOD PERSON and making sure people follow the rules so no one kills grandma.

 

[Hollywood Hitler]

Serious question here: have any of these people ever once just admitted that they were wrong about any Covid policy matter? Just one time? What is it about accountability that these people fear so much that they can't just say "we made a mistake on this point and we accept full responsibility for it." There's no veneer of competence that they need to worry about maintaining because they're already widely distrusted by the public, if noncompliance with vaccinations and other Covid measures is any indication. The only thing that they can possibly do at this point to repair that trust is the one thing they're most steadfastly committed to not doing: being honest.

The sheer amount of time, mental energy, and money our government spends on lying is mind blowing.

IMO, it gets to a point where it's the people who are following these mandates should take most of the blame. "b-but I don't want to get fined or have them shut down my business!" News flash, fucko: they can fine you all they want, they can't force you to pay. The only reason these people get away with this shit is because the majority comply with their unreasonable demands and restrictions.

 

[Mister DNA]

That's probably the most pertinent reason. You can only claim that people who doubt you are mentally ill far right extremists if you insist on being infallible. If you've been wrong before, perhaps multiple times, you lose the ability to shrug off any and all criticism.

In a sane world, the fact that there have been several million positive Omicron tests in just a week or two all over the nation, regardless of any officially implemented prophylactic measures, should really be the final nail in the coffin for the government's credibility. Of course we don't live in a sane world, so vast swathes of the public continue to discuss the subject as though it's still March 2020 and the virus hasn't become an irreversible endemic reality.

I'm sure it's been said multiple times before, but our government's behavior is now virtually indistinguishable from how the late-stage USSR operated shortly before its collapse. The total and flagrant lack of regard for truth and objective reality is increasingly making it impossible for them to govern effectively. I am becoming genuinely concerned that unless drastic action is taken immediately, we're going to experience an escalating series of crises that are going to make life far worse than it already is. The vaccine mandates alone have caused serious shortages of skilled labor in healthcare due to staff firings, for example. That's a big deal for everyone and it's going to get worse and worse. Professional competence is not something that can be replaced quickly or cheaply, and I'm not sure how the government is planning to fix all the damage this policy stance is causing (beyond doing so very poorly, that is).

 

[Mrs. Addams]

Nobody wants kids this day and age. I find it interesting that all the mature women I've spoken to have the same attitude; if they were magically made young again, they'd never have anymore children, because they feel there is no future for them.

I personally think there's some credible low-level evidence that the vaccines affect fertility. But before people jump to conclusions about birth rates and fertility rates, it's important for them to remember that there are massive factors pushing women towards non-procreation. Most women have realized on some level that the cost of living today is high enough that they're expected to work like their husbands, meaning they'll have far less time for their children than nature intended. Feminists would scream and shriek at you all day long about this, but literally every single responsible adult woman I've known regrets the career-minded lifestyle being pushed upon them these days and wants a return to more traditional gender values.

True, those values were cheerfully abused by men, and represent a clear power imbalance. But they also governed civilization for thousands of years, and are motivated by deeply ingrained biological factors.

The massive decrease in western fertility rates might be caused in part by the vaccine, but please, realize that it's the tip of a very large iceburg. Even if no other woman takes the jab from this moment onwards, fertility rates will still trend downwards in the next few decades, no matter what.

I hardly know anyone who is having kids. Most of my old college buddies are still trying to pay off their student loans, and then will start saving up for homes, and then say they'll consider kids. And a large handful are still single and frustrated with the lack of decent and hardworking males in our circles.

 

[Sanshain]

I hardly know anyone who is having kids. Most of my old college buddies are still trying to pay off their student loans, and then will start saving up for homes, and then say they'll consider kids. And a large handful are still single and frustrated with the lack of decent and hardworking males in our circles.

Without PL'ing too much, I do know one group that squirts out kids with incredibly regularity; white trash hood rats and gypsies, landed or otherwise. Both have kids for the same reason; single moms get welfare. They very deliberately get knocked up at the youngest age possible to get as much welfare dosh as they can. There's an all-girls school where I live and I'd say the youngest pregnant girl I walked past was fifteen. They're all extremely casual about it, too. It's nothing to them. Very disturbing. Some of them aren't even bad people and genuinely love their kids, but they purposefully went out and got pregnant for welfare money.

 

[FarmerKhourtney]

Slight PL but my formatting hasn’t been working
I may be a bit older than the average KF poster it seems to me
I have kids and regret the world that they’ll be left with. Love my kids to death but I was way too optimistic at the time

 

[TextSurfer]

This is the first I've every heard of such an idea. Please elaborate.

Not all of us do. There is a whole silent population of people who track it very closely with apps, etc. Even that study re: the jabs delaying your periods comes from app-collected data.
I have a personal theory about where the difference lies, though, and how it's changed over years, and that has to do with birth control. The women I know who have been on BC since they were teenagers have a very different relationship with their periods than those that aren't.

How so?

I'm in my early 20s and would like to have kids but I do find myself wondering what kind of future my kids and grandkids will get. In addition dating is absolutely abysmal for my age group, which makes it more difficult to find a candidate to father my hypothetical children. A dating site/app for Gen Z that doesn't just propagate hookup culture (like tinder) cannot come soon enough.

Also, the people that are having kids are usually the people that shouldn't...because they lack the mental capacity to wonder about the future of the world, they also lack the mental capacity to care about any form of birth control or preventative measures.

I don't want to have kids either. This world is becoming more and more of a dumpster fire every day. I'm not in France but close enough. For Macron, we unvaxxed are non-citizens. Non-people. No chance in hell I'd put a kid through this.

And I get why some women don't want a guy to procreate with when they can't be sure "Jim" won't suddenly leave her and the kids to fend for themselves because he found his inner "Candy" and jerking off while wearing stockings is suddenly the most important thing in the world. So many stories of kids having to suffer from these fetishistic dads calling themselves their "moms". Disgusting.

 

[Hollywood Hitler]

>MaxxVaxxed and boosted
>Gets COVID anyways
>"Please go out and get booster anyways."

 

[Larry David's Opera Cape]

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Heshetheyit/Seattle humanoid admits to "being a Karen" and reddit cheers. It's hard to believe these people are real and I walk among them daily.

Told you lol. And people will claim Gardasil is necessary for girls as their daughters are sterilized. Makes you wonder how many other childhood vaccines cause irreversible health effects...

I know there has been concern expressed by the supposedly terrible anti-science granola set about the shots pushed during pregnancy now too. There actually was a study showing miscarriages related to the flu shots but they decided that was correlation and not causation and mock any woman who hesitates about getting the shot now. I know my mom swears the DPT shot in the 80s made me become colicky and "difficult"- I have heard other women her age say the same about their babies- but that of course is written off as stupid women imagining reasons for normal problems like kids acting up at a certain age. And yet...they changed the formulation of that shot because the pertussis part was kinda harsh after all. Hmm.

And anecdotally, when I got the hep b series to live in the dorms, I was sick for months, my heart racing all the time and short of breath. I knew there was no point telling a doctor- blackpilled about the establishment from the get-go.

 

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This person needs to kill themselves

IMO, it gets to a point where it's the people who are following these mandates should take most of the blame. "b-but I don't want to get fined or have them shut down my business!" News flash, fucko: they can fine you all they want, they can't force you to pay. The only reason these people get away with this shit is because the majority comply with their unreasonable demands and restrictions.

This is why I have zero sympathy for the small businesses. You allowed it to happen and only went as far as bitching about it on Twitter. Revolutions require more than angry tweets. The government couldn’t close them all, and eventually they’d have to pigeonhole the whole thing.
Of course in Canada and more specifically Ontario, 95% of the population maxx vaxxed and cucked so I suppose it was hopeless to begin with

Slight PL but my formatting hasn’t been working
I may be a bit older than the average KF poster it seems to me
I have kids and regret the world that they’ll be left with. Love my kids to death but I was way too optimistic at the time

I agree, though I am happy my kids aren’t really ‘kids’ in the sense of age, I feel a lot more sympathy for people with school aged kids because it’s been a hellish 2 years and it’s only gonna get worse.

 

[Sexual Chocolate]

I'm in my early 20s and would like to have kids but I do find myself wondering what kind of future my kids and grandkids will get

The only guarantee is they won't have a future at all if they're never born.

I don't want to have kids either. This world is becoming more and more of a dumpster fire every day. I'm not in France but close enough. For Macron, we unvaxxed are non-citizens. Non-people. No chance in hell I'd put a kid through this.

I'm pretty sure that 99.99% of your ancestors went through much, much worse on a daily basis what with famines, plagues, wars, the feudal system and living in a filthy hovel with no plumbing and livestock for warmth. But they kept on, and you're here because they didn't give up.

You deciding to become a genetic combo breaker and allowing your entire family line to die with you while you spend the longest part of your life regretting it (I've never met an older childless person who wasn't sad about it, they're tragic people who end up waiting for death) won't even slightly annoy the Macrons, Merkels and Bidens or their corporate masters. It's exactly what they want you to do.

I mean, if Terminator was made today maybe it'd end with Sarah Connor driving to the abortion clinic or something, but thankfully she never surrendered to despair because that'd be a total bummer. There's no fate but what we make, and that includes the vaxxmaxed totalitarian soy state - which is only inevitable if good people don't care enough to do something about it.

 

[JosephStalin]

How are transplant surgeries elective? Do they think people just get bored with their kidneys and go under the knife for upgrades?

Indeed. When I was in utter agony in June, from sciatic pain that two previous surgeries couldn't stop, having the spinal fusion surgery was NOT elective to me AT ALL. It was vital, in my eyes.

Yup, easy to say a surgery is "elective" if you don't need any surgeries. As usual, CA shows their sheer incompetency.

 

[NoReturn]

How so?

Spoiler: Off-topic

You know how typing speeds and certain computer skills went up through the early 2000s, but then started dropping again as people became phone-first technology users? It's kind of like that.

Spoiler: Example of the above

GEN Z KIDS APPARENTLY DON’T UNDERSTAND HOW FILE SYSTEMS WORK
"THEY SEE IT LIKE ONE BUCKET, AND EVERYTHING'S IN THE BUCKET."

Giant Bucket
Over the past few years, many professors have noticed an alarming trend among their students. Overall, members of Gen Z, even those studying technical scientific fields, seem to have a total misunderstanding of computer storage, The Verge reports, and many fail to conceptualize the concept of directories and folders filled with digital files.

“The most intuitive thing would be the laundry basket where you have everything kind of together, and you’re just kind of pulling out what you need at any given time,” Princeton University senior Joshua Drossman told The Verge.

Treasure Hunting
The Verge suggests that the decreased importance of physical filing cabinets may have certainly played a part, but that the rise of search engines and search functions are probably the true culprit. Younger generations grew up in a place where any website, folder, or file can be readily found by typing keywords or part of the title into Google or any other search bar. That realization, academics told The Verge, has them teaching computer fundamentals to their students alongside their usual technical fields.

“I grew up when you had to have a file; you had to save it; you had to know where it was saved. There was no search function,” Borough of Manhattan Community College astronomy professor Saavik Ford told The Verge. “[Now] there’s not a conception that there’s a place where files live. They just search for it and bring it up.”

It’s as if students “have a laundry basket full of laundry” Ford added, “and they have a robot who will fetch them every piece of clothing they want on demand.”

That realization, academics told The Verge, has them teaching computer fundamentals to their students alongside their usual technical fields.

“These are smart kids,” Ford said. “They’re doing astrophysics. They get stuff. But they were not getting this.”

I've noticed that a lot of women in my generation, and definitely the ones younger than us, started taking birth control pills in high school and haven't actually spend much time not on them. This has led them to see their periods as a "predictable inconvenience" and there's even a whole little movement of women just not taking their placebo week so they can skip the period entirely. Implantable BC and hormonal IUDs can also stop periods entirely.

They never learned what their "natural" period is, because they started taking hormones as soon as they started bleeding. The unnatural nature of those periods also means they've never really needed to look at them closer unless something changed/is wrong (e.g. bleeding outside of "scheduled" periods or not getting a period at all). So not only are they unfamiliar with what their body would do normally, they haven't even come close to the idea of using it as a tool or health metric.

Spoiler: PL-ing

Spoiler: No seriously, I'm going to talk about my period in here

So, I'm not talking out my ass about the BC thing. When I got my period was a teenager the very very first thing the doctor tried to do was put me on birth control, and my dumb ass thought "Ok, well he's a doctor, so I'll do it."
HA HA! FUCK THAT. Press F for my family and friends because I was basically psychotic for like 3 months until stopped taking them and I've never gone back to any kind of hormonal BC. Lord help any other girls who are now like I was then, because I really had to stick to my guns, too. The doctor was convinced I was going to get knocked up and told me to "Just push through" because I was going through puberty and it would be totally fine on the other side, trust me bro.
Meanwhile I have a friend who was put on Yaz, and we all know how that ended up.
More to the "natural periods" thing, though, I really do feel like I have an advantage over my friends who have been on BC their whole lives because - and forgive me for getting weirdly poetic here - it makes my period feel more like a natural part of myself. I never feel like I'm being punished, or like I should just lie on the couch and eat ho-hos because life is hard. It's just a natural thing, and by tracking it I can use it to my advantage. I know when I ovulate, I know when I need to be careful working out, and hell, I've even found out a few quirks like how your period can start early if you get poisoned. That was fun to learn.

You deciding to become a genetic combo breaker and allowing your entire family line to die with you while you spend the longest part of your life regretting it (I've never met an older childless person who wasn't sad about it, they're tragic people who end up waiting for death) won't even slightly annoy the Macrons, Merkels and Bidens or their corporate masters. It's exactly what they want you to do.

I get where you're coming from. and the childfree movement certainly isn't helping matters, but I also can't fault anyone who chooses not to have kids right now. There may have been wars and famines in the past, but there were also plenty of women who smothered their babies to stop them from living a horrible life. It's not always about "selfishness" or wanting to be a wine aunt.

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We're getting off topic, though, so here's this to bring us back with a look into the mouth of madness:

 

[Wallace]

Serious question here: have any of these people ever once just admitted that they were wrong about any Covid policy matter? Just one time? What is it about accountability that these people fear so much that they can't just say "we made a mistake on this point and we accept full responsibility for it." There's no veneer of competence that they need to worry about maintaining because they're already widely distrusted by the public, if noncompliance with vaccinations and other Covid measures is any indication. The only thing that they can possibly do at this point to repair that trust is the one thing they're most steadfastly committed to not doing: being honest.

The sheer amount of time, mental energy, and money our government spends on lying is mind blowing.

Because to say that situations are complex and choices are tricky is to suggest that the other side might have a point about something, anything, and we can’t have that. You can’t be curious or questioning or conflicted or haunted by anything, because if you are, you don’t appear to be one of the endlessly bored, extravagantly haughty know-everythings who define our current discourse.

 

[Fleece Johnson]

Was curious about the hpv situation as compares and found this:

Adolescent Premature Ovarian Insufficiency Following Human Papillomavirus Vaccination

So these weird periods very well COULD be the first sign of POI, and if that is the case, we will see mass infertility manifesting in a more obvious way in 2-5 years.

This is very similar to the timeline for myocarditis fatalities.

Gives you a big ole thunk, don't it?

The Gardasil clinical trials were all unblinded after they wrapped up. In other words, the participants who got the placebo were later given the vaccine. There's essentially no control group from the clinical trials. If any long term effects manifest, there's no control group to compare them to.

Also, Gardasil is no longer offered. It's been replaced by Gardasil 9 which covers more strains of HPV and, for some reason, has twice the amount of aluminum vs the original Gardasil. Aluminum is neurotoxic and causes inflammation wherever it ends up in the body. It's an adjuvant which puts your immune system on high alert so it is more likely to formulate antibodies but at the same time, it can make you allergic to things you were never allergic to before. ie) Eating peanuts while aluminated may give you a peanut allergy or intolerance.

I suspect too much aluminum can lead to autoimmune issues as well.

Why the hell would Merck double the amount of aluminum in their prized vaccine?

 

[Sneeds_Sniggerly]

Other than random articles here and there, where do you people get your news on the virus or the vaccines?

 

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@NoReturn

We're getting off topic, though, so here's this to bring us back with a look into the mouth of madness:

So. The Wuv Da Science crowd, the Branch Covidians, think the N95 thing is... a brand name.

God help us, heh.

 

[cantankerous jackalope]

https://twitter.com/bobsaget/status/1465171771359784965

 

[SouthernBitchBob]

Spoiler: Off-topic

You know how typing speeds and certain computer skills went up through the early 2000s, but then started dropping again as people became phone-first technology users? It's kind of like that.

I've noticed that a lot of women in my generation, and definitely the ones younger than us, started taking birth control pills in high school and haven't actually spend much time not on them. This has led them to see their periods as a "predictable inconvenience" and there's even a whole little movement of women just not taking their placebo week so they can skip the period entirely. Implantable BC and hormonal IUDs can also stop periods entirely.

They never learned what their "natural" period is, because they started taking hormones as soon as they started bleeding. The unnatural nature of those periods also means they've never really needed to look at them closer unless something changed/is wrong (e.g. bleeding outside of "scheduled" periods or not getting a period at all). So not only are they unfamiliar with what their body would do normally, they haven't even come close to the idea of using it as a tool or health metric.

Spoiler: Even further off-topic

Yes I know she's a lolcow with her own small thread here, but Karen Straughn had a really fascinating hypothesis about birth control and the fucked relationships modern women find themselves in. If I can remember the logic chain properly: there are a lot of subtle cues that humans use to choose a mate, including smell, body language, etc. We have studies that show women tend to prefer out-group men when they're looking for a guy to date/bang, and that preference shifts to in-group men (like brothers, fathers, other family members) when pregnant. Likely because there's an instinctive urge to stay near men who have a vested interest in your kids' safety, so you want to make sure you're around men who won't hurt you/will protect you. Obviously these are trends that inform behavior, but don't entirely control it. Point is, there's a measurable difference between the sets of men you have an instinctive pull toward when you're pregnant vs not pregnant. Now, birth control tricks your body into thinking it's pregnant basically all the time. The core of the hypothesis is, maaaaaaybe one of the reasons modern dating is terrible, divorce rates are high, and so on and so forth, is because birth control tilts women toward being attracted to men they're not normally attracted to when they're -not- in preggo mode. You date a guy, stop taking BC, and suddenly realize you don't like him as much as you used to, and can't put your finger on why.