Debate user Taarna on the ethics of child porn thread - Obvious low quality troll bait, thread is actually arguing with BoxerShorts

I doubt a 12 year old is exactly wife/mom material.
Do people forget that the real father Laura Ingalls Wilder didn't want her getting married 'til she was 18? That wasn't some freakish practice back then, just common sense. These degerates fantasize about a period of American history that never happened where daughters were exclusively married off the second they hit puberty.
 
Nope. AoC was raised from 12 to 18 to force women onto the education->employment pipeline rather than marriage->motherhood.


People use AoC as a proxy for any relationship, even non sexual. Maybe you meet a 12-15 yr old but you're nonsexual and get married in a few years. That was possible in the past but would be considered socially unacceptable today.
I would look this up to confirm but I’m really not willing to type “Why was the age of consent raised” when I already know what the answer should be. I also don’t want the FBI to van me.

Good luck dying on this hill I guess.
 
Do people forget that the real father Laura Ingalls Wilder didn't want her getting married 'til she was 18? That wasn't some freakish practice back then, just common sense. These degerates fantasize about a period of American history that never happened where daughters were exclusively married off the second they hit puberty.
"18" didn't matter before compulsory education.
"back then" was 1950s which was ~70yr since the AoC laws 1st started to be changed and high schools were normalized.
You need to go back further.

@Taarna why do you keep looking at your thread but not posting in it, grow some balls and answer the people here.
suspense

I would look this up to confirm but I’m really not willing to type “Why was the age of consent raised” when I already know what the answer should be. I also don’t want the FBI to van me.

Good luck dying on this hill I guess.
There is no consensus regarding of age of consent. It was raised from 12 to 18 by feminists for social engineering and the general public simply accepted it (just like they accepted anti racism and anti sexism in the 1960s) but now we have the internet and people are starting to question AoC. They're noticing that their experiences don't match the law.

When I was arrived on this website, it was very rare to have AoC debates and people were shocked but the tide is slowly changing. More and more people are now questioning it and it's clear the 18fags don't have strong arguments (especially because AOC is lower in Europe, e.g. 15 in Sweden) and these people are desperately attacking everyone as "pedo" as a last ditch effort to retain the current social norms but that won't work long-term.
 
"18" didn't matter before compulsory education.
"back then" was 1950s which was ~70yr since the AoC laws 1st started to be changed and high schools were normalized.
You need to go back further.
Even then, dude, it was more like 15-17. Fathers weren't dolling up their little loli offspring to marry the nice farmer boy next door.
As people were more self-sustaining and resourceful, they didn't rely on marriage for fuedal/political reasons, so the fathers didn't just let any loser marry their daughters. If you weren't an ambitious Chad back in the 19th century, you weren't getting the cream of the crop.
Your logic fails when you think men back then didn't have to try as hard as they do today. Have you had to build a fucking house out of raw material for a woman today? No, you probably have not.

I understand that your matriachal upbringjng traumatized you, but you have this all wrong.
 
There is no consensus regarding of age of consent. It was raised from 12 to 18 by feminists for social engineering and the general public simply accepted it (just like they accepted anti racism and anti sexism in the 1960s) but now we have the internet and people are starting to question AoC. They're noticing that their experiences don't match the law.

When I was arrived on this website, it was very rare to have AoC debates and people were shocked but the tide is slowly changing. More and more people are now questioning it and it's clear the 18fags don't have strong arguments (especially because AOC is lower in Europe, e.g. 15 in Sweden) and these people are desperately attacking everyone as "pedo" as a last ditch effort to retain the current social norms but that won't work long-term.
Are the alphabet letter activists seeing to that? Love is love. 🌈
 
Even then, dude, it was more like 15-17. Fathers weren't dolling up their little loli offspring to marry the nice farmer boy next door.
As people were more self-sustaining and resourceful, they didn't rely on marriage for fuedal/political reasons, so the fathers didn't just let any loser marry their daughters. If you weren't an ambitious Chad back in the 19th century, you weren't getting the cream of the crop.
Your logic fails when you think men back then didn't have to try as hard as they do today. Have you had to build a fucking house out of raw material for a woman today? No, you probably have not.

I understand that your matriachal upbringjng traumatized you, but you have this all wrong.
You're making a strawman argument.

Original age of consent was 12 before the 1880s. So before the late 1800s and even afterwards) people thought these people were old enough to engage in sex. It wasn't pedophilia. That doesn't mean every single person was (and most weren't) but the point here is that isn't pedophilia.

And feminists tried to raise the AoC to 16 and 18 and it was such a disaster that they partially repealed it with these Romeo and Juliet loopholes. So clearly these people are old enough to decide when they have sex.

Today the mentality is it's perfectly fine if a 14 yr old or slightly younger engages in sex but it's moral and wholesome if that person is only a few years older but horrible and abusive if that person is over 18. This is total non sense and it's clear people are backwards rationalizing reality to justify the current laws.
 
Are the alphabet letter activists seeing to that? Love is love. 🌈
From what I've seen, LGBTQP don't feel confident enough to advocate for lowering age of consent just yet. They want to destigmatize non-offense pedophilia first and legalize rape (in some situations, e.g. if a women is naked on top of you, she can't refuse penetration)
 
Nobody cares what a pedo says
Have you met any 14 or 16 year olds? Please say no.

I also assume you want a loli tradwaifu who you get to groom into a twisted, perverted image of what you imagine feminity to be.

Go skydiving off a bridge.

E: @Taarna come back we're not done bullying you
 
From what I've seen, LGBTQP don't feel confident enough to advocate for lowering age of consent just yet. They want to destigmatize non-offense pedophilia first and legalize rape (in some situations, e.g. if a women is naked on top of you, she can't refuse penetration)
Fantastic.

Well if any of this happens in my lifetime, I’ll be camping out somewhere in the Bible Belt with a shot gun at the ready for anyone who tries to serenade my underaged daughter.

I guess I’m a feminist even though I do enjoy the traditional family unit, when properly done.
 
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A 14-year-old that wants your dick and sends you nude pictures of herself is not child pornography. She's not a child and it's not pornography. You guys can stop pretending like you wouldn't fuck a 14-year-old if it was legal and she was good-looking and threw herself at you. Elvis fucked Priscilla when she was 14. I rest my case.
Elvis was a pill popping degenerate, not exactly a figure to look up to.
What do you mean what the fuck? Do you honestly not see the difference between small children age 6 or around that age being forced to have sex and being recorded, for the pleasure of adult men, and a probably already sexually active 14-year-old girl sending a guy, she apparently has a crush on and is texting and flirting with, a nude picture of herself, willingly, because that's what she wants to do?

Not saying it's smart for a man to engage in that, or that young girls can't be taken advantage of, but it's in no way child pornography. It's not even pornography. There's nudist photos out there that don't count as pornography. You can even find nude videos of people on Youtube, some of which I am sure are underage.

People need to stop pretending as if 14-year-old girls are sexless robots.

There are pornstars, that have admitted to luring older men into bathrooms and giving them blowjobs when they were 13.


It's just nature. I've been masturbating since I was 6. I once talked to a girl (at the time 18 years old) who said she would pleasure herself with a wet towel in the shower when she was 6. All of you will have similar stories. Our brains evolved to be like that and our bodies become ready for that sort of thing at a very early age.

Everything about that is normal and natural. The only problem is the power dynamic between older, more experienced people, and younger, less experienced people.
No adult man should be communicating/texting/flirting with a 14 year old girl, full stop. Even if a 14 year old child has a crush on an adult man, it is the adult’s responsibility to protect the child by putting a stop to any communication or flirtation. A harmless crush on an adult is something that will likely disappear after time, the lasting effects of being sexually abused and manipulated by someone with an adult brain and body will not.

Fantasy is not reality. A girl fantasizing about a celebrity crush does not equal the desire to actually have sexual activity with an adult male. There are countless stories of girls being victimized by older males that they had crushes on when they were 14-18, and how it had a profoundly negative effect on their development and life afterwards.

If you would fuck a 14 year old girl or seek nudes from them, and the only thing stopping you is legality, you have serious mental issues. No matter how you might try to justify it, it’s wrong.
 
Have you met any 14 or 16 year olds? Please say no.

16 yr olds are fully grown adult women. I can't tell the difference between them and college women.
14 yr olds, it depends, some haven't fully matured (tanner 4) but they're more adult than child. They're looking to start romantic and sexual relationships and throw epic ragers with drugs and alcohol. Clearly they want to act like adults and be given adult responsibilities rather than be treated like 6 and 7 yr olds.

Fantastic.

Well if any of this happens in my lifetime, I’ll be camping out somewhere in the Bible Belt with a shot gun at the ready for anyone who tries to serenade my underaged daughter.
If you lose control of the culture, you'll be labeled a domestic terrorist aka cultural criminal. It'll be late.


I guess I’m a feminist even though I do enjoy the traditional family unit, when properly done.

The goal of feminists is female liberation. They want women to get educations, join the workforce, support themselves and have sex with other women. Every feminist action, including riaisng age of consent from 12 to 18, is an attack on families.

No adult man should be communicating/texting/flirting with a 14 year old girl, full stop. Even if a 14 year old child has a crush on an adult man, it is the adult’s responsibility to protect the child by putting a stop to any communication or flirtation. A harmless crush on an adult is something that will likely disappear after time, the lasting effects of being sexually abused and manipulated by someone with an adult brain and body will not.

No. This is the feminist "all men are predators" mentality. A 14 yr old can get into an abusive and toxic relationships with another 14 yr old. It depends entirely on the man. If the a 24 yr old will treat her better than a 14 yr old and they're compatible and looking to get married then that's perfectly trad.

Fantasy is not reality. A girl fantasizing about a celebrity crush does not equal the desire to actually have sexual activity with an adult male. There are countless stories of girls being victimized by older males that they had crushes on when they were 14-18, and how it had a profoundly negative effect on their development and life afterwards.

Strawman argument. The argument is whether they're old enough to engage in relationships and the answer is yes and yes bad relationships are alreays a risk. As for bad relationships, again that can and DOES happen between people of the same age.

If you would fuck a 14 year old girl or seek nudes from them, and the only thing stopping you is legality, you have serious mental issues. No matter how you might try to justify it, it’s wrong.
No. it depends entirely on the situation and you're grasping at straws to enforce the status quo, including using disingenuous feminist arguments.
 
16 yr olds are fully grown adult women. I can't tell the difference between them and college women.
14 yr olds, it depends, some haven't fully matured (tanner 4) but they're more adult than child. They're looking to start romantic and sexual relationships and throw epic ragers with drugs and alcohol. Clearly they want to act like adults and be given adult responsibilities rather than be treated like 6 and 7 yr olds.
Lol kys pedo

16 year olds looks like kids, you fucking freak. You're coming up on 2 years of being a sick fuck, aren't you tired? Log off and do literally anything else*

*check yourself into a state institution with no internet access
 
You're making a strawman argument.

Original age of consent was 12 before the 1880s. So before the late 1800s and even afterwards) people thought these people were old enough to engage in sex. It wasn't pedophilia. That doesn't mean every single person was (and most weren't) but the point here is that isn't pedophilia.

And feminists tried to raise the AoC to 16 and 18 and it was such a disaster that they partially repealed it with these Romeo and Juliet loopholes. So clearly these people are old enough to decide when they have sex.

Today the mentality is it's perfectly fine if a 14 yr old or slightly younger engages in sex but it's moral and wholesome if that person is only a few years older but horrible and abusive if that person is over 18. This is total non sense and it's clear people are backwards rationalizing reality to justify the current laws.
This is such a disingenuous take.

Age of consent laws weren’t partially repealed with Romeo and Juliet laws. Laws are constantly being updated and changed to reflect the aims of citizens, and the main function of AOC laws is to prevent children from being coerced into sex by adults, who are much more developed mentally and physically.

A 33 year old woman having a relationship with a 16 year old boy is still illegal. An 18 year old man having a relationship with a 16 year old is not. People over 18 are still allowed in many states to have relationships with people under 18, but only if the difference is within a few years. Why? Because they are closer in development. So no, it doesn’t become suddenly abusive and horrible if one is over 18, as long as they are close in age to their partner.
 
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