Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread - Got too big

[mindlessobserver]

Update on the daughter front. I convinced the other side to wait a few weeks. Literally the next day the CDC said the Vaccine does not stop transmission and the mainstream news uploaded the NPC programming patch that runs "loweredexpectations.exe"

I think I might actually win this argument now without much hassle.

 

[Josterman]

Wow what a shit take

Column: Mocking anti-vaxxers' deaths is ghoulish, yes — but necessary

How should we think about anti-vaccine activists who die from COVID?

www.latimes.com

Hiltzik: Death and the anti-vaxxer - Los Angeles Times

archived 10 Jan 2022 21:44:09 UTC

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https://twitter.com/hiltzikm/status/1480632401952841735

Michael Hiltzik on Twitter: "Column: Mocking anti-vaxxers' deaths is …

archived 10 Jan 2022 21:32:12 UTC

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definatLs never fails

 

[Super-Chevy454]

>Parents receive COVID tests for their kids from the state
>Expiration date is on the same month it was issued out
<"ohnonono it's fine, its how you STORE the tests that matters, they last up to 3 months, we promise"
You can't make this shit up
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I got the feeling then some of these Covid tests will go straight to the trash can or some wise guys might try to sell them on Ebay at some suckers.

 

[The Wicked Mitch]

Update on the daughter front. I convinced the other side to wait a few weeks. Literally the next day the CDC said the Vaccine does not stop transmission and the mainstream news uploaded the NPC programming patch that runs "loweredexpectations.exe"

I think I might actually win this argument now without much hassle.

Print it out and frame it in case they do another 180.

 

[Shaka Brah]

I got the feeling then some of these Covid tests will go straight to the trash can or some wise guys might try to sell them on Ebay at some suckers.

If I could get some of them I'd use them to test household objects and fruit. See how many positives I can rack up from clearly not disease-carrying items.

 

[Josterman]

bill palmer taking about the China virus

https://mobile.twitter.com/search?q=(from%3Apalmerreport)%20-filter%3Areplies%20china&src=typed_query&f=live

 

[HTTP Error 404]

SCOTUS has already come to a ruling on the mandates?

 

[Ruin]

SCOTUS has already come to a ruling on the mandates?

January 13th the verdict comes supposedly.

 

[Cycleye]

This is so going to bend the numbers to save Boris the lockdown party king

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-59944057

The timing is perfect along with reductions in isolation times. Bet the nurses are pissed they cant stay off work forever. Give it a month, or two and masks will be hospitals/care homes only, i reckon. I expect the BBC to run more and more peices about covid is now a cold, risks are low, boosters and vax only needed for vunerable etc. All statements to end with, " experts say" in bold.

 

[Dancing Axolotl]

Hahaha... My nurse friend got boosted last week and now has Covid. His wife's the one who has been the most pro-vaccine/test/trust-the-government out of everyone I know, and she just called me up incredulous because they did everything right and still caught it.

I always hear that "did everything right" bullshit from these people. They really act like they can win out on a virus and are shocked when they get sick. These people won't make it when the next variant/manmade torture cold rolls around. They are already one anxious foot into the grave.

 

[NoReturn]

The one thing that makes me less willing to visit my doctor is the current waiting protocol. Nobody is presently allowed in the waiting room and people have to call the inside office to inform them of their arrival and wait for someone to let them in. That's less than ideal, so I'd prefer to avoid the doctor office now unless something major happens or I need my annual physical.

Loved ones keep trying to talk me out of self-surgery whenever I say "I'll take care of things myself", but I've done it before so I'm sure it'll be fine if I do it again, right?

Hahaha... My nurse friend got boosted last week and now has Covid. His wife's the one who has been the most pro-vaccine/test/trust-the-government out of everyone I know, and she just called me up incredulous because they did everything right and still caught it.

I always hear that "did everything right" bullshit from these people. They really act like they can win out on a virus and are shocked when they get sick. These people won't make it when the next variant/manmade torture cold rolls around. They are already one anxious foot into the grave.

I'm also noticing this phenomenon. Not only that, but there's a defeatist attitude that comes with it, too.
"Oh you tested positive. What are you doing to treat it?"
"I'm just going to ride it out."
"Any supplements? Drinking enough water?"
"I'm going to listen to my doctor."

 

[mindlessobserver]

I always hear that "did everything right" bullshit from these people. They really act like they can win out on a virus and are shocked when they get sick. These people won't make it when the next variant/manmade torture cold rolls around. They are already one anxious foot into the grave.

It's really come across as true believers shocked that bad things can happen to good people. Why has The Science forsaken us? We did everything right! We donned the ritual clothing on our faces. We only associated with the right people. We accepted the holy communion into our bodies. We followed the ordained hygiene rituals and preached the truth to the unbelievers. Yet still the devil afflicts us.

Watching the media spin in circles is the most hilarious part of this. There is a litteral stampede to the door to be the most critical of the situation.

 

[RisingPhoenix]

So we live in a household where 3 people have the original 2 dose vaxx and 3 more don't have it for various reasons and Covid ripped thru the house this week. I'm all for someone choosing to not take the vax but at least one of those people bragged that they had "natural immunity" to covid, they tested positive a day later. I only lack pity because when husband had it (last year) he instead acted like the plague entered the house and how dare we even leave our room.

Regardless your status, there's ways to at least be smart about avoiding covid. The first one to go Positive refused to isolate and kept doing things around the house. We avoided and got spared - everyone else hung around the positive person and shock now they all have it bar us.

On the other flip side, a relative who lives with nobody - has kept to themselves and taken all the vaccinations got Covid over the Holidays and thought they would be fine in a few days - only to end up quarantined for almost the whole 14 days anyway. Granted it was def Omicron and they were more irritated about the positive tests than the symptoms - but from my observation atm the unvaxxed in our house dealing with Covid are generally getting it as bad as the person who was already vaxxed.

I'm not really sure what to take from this other than Omicron clearly gets thought the vaccine defenses more than people were claiming it would do. Not even having the Booster will save you, yet despite being in a house of sick people. Playing keep-away is actually working out pretty well even though we share bathrooms.

People now pushing on us to get the Booster anyway, which seems pointless to me till the Omicron update gets released.

 

[Cycleye]

So we live in a household where 3 people have the original 2 dose vaxx and 3 more don't have it for various reasons and Covid ripped thru the house this week. I'm all for someone choosing to not take the vax but at least one of those people bragged that they had "natural immunity" to covid, they tested positive a day later. I only lack pity because when husband had it (last year) he instead acted like the plague entered the house and how dare we even leave our room.

Regardless your status, there's ways to at least be smart about avoiding covid. The first one to go Positive refused to isolate and kept doing things around the house. We avoided and got spared - everyone else hung around the positive person and shock now they all have it bar us.

On the other flip side, a relative who lives with nobody - has kept to themselves and taken all the vaccinations got Covid over the Holidays and thought they would be fine in a few days - only to end up quarantined for almost the whole 14 days anyway. Granted it was def Omicron and they were more irritated about the positive tests than the symptoms - but from my observation atm the unvaxxed in our house dealing with Covid are generally getting it as bad as the person who was already vaxxed.

I'm not really sure what to take from this other than Omicron clearly gets thought the vaccine defenses more than people were claiming it would do. Not even having the Booster will save you, yet despite being in a house of sick people. Playing keep-away is actually working out pretty well even though we share bathrooms.

People now pushing on us to get the Booster anyway, which seems pointless to me till the Omicron update gets released.

There are some KN95 masks upthread with your name on. Lots of pretty colours.

 

[The Wicked Mitch]

So we live in a household where 3 people have the original 2 dose vaxx and 3 more don't have it for various reasons and Covid ripped thru the house this week. I'm all for someone choosing to not take the vax but at least one of those people bragged that they had "natural immunity" to covid, they tested positive a day later. I only lack pity because when husband had it (last year) he instead acted like the plague entered the house and how dare we even leave our room.

Regardless your status, there's ways to at least be smart about avoiding covid. The first one to go Positive refused to isolate and kept doing things around the house. We avoided and got spared - everyone else hung around the positive person and shock now they all have it bar us.

On the other flip side, a relative who lives with nobody - has kept to themselves and taken all the vaccinations got Covid over the Holidays and thought they would be fine in a few days - only to end up quarantined for almost the whole 14 days anyway. Granted it was def Omicron and they were more irritated about the positive tests than the symptoms - but from my observation atm the unvaxxed in our house dealing with Covid are generally getting it as bad as the person who was already vaxxed.

I'm not really sure what to take from this other than Omicron clearly gets thought the vaccine defenses more than people were claiming it would do. Not even having the Booster will save you, yet despite being in a house of sick people. Playing keep-away is actually working out pretty well even though we share bathrooms.

People now pushing on us to get the Booster anyway, which seems pointless to me till the Omicron update gets released.

Imagine how mercilessly you would've been bullied for making a post like this about the flu, which muh covid always was for anyone not terminally sick or 80 years old and muh omicron is for pretty much everyone, just two years ago.

Absolutely shameful display.

 

[Sad Chad]

DARPA documents regarding their rejection to fund a gain of function COVID virus program, and the NIH and NIAID's willingness to do so. Remember to always trust your local FED agent goys

BREAKING: Military Documents About Gain Of Function Contradict Fauci’s Testimony Under Oath | First published at https://creativedestructionmedia.com. Military documents state that EcoHealth Alliance approached DARPA in March 2018 seeking funding to

First published at https://creativedestructionmedia.com. Military documents state that EcoHealth Alliance approached DARPA in March 2018 seeking funding to conduct gain of function research of bat borne coronaviruses. The proposal, named Project Defuse, was rejected by DARPA over safety...

ussanews.com

 

[SCSI]

January 13th the verdict comes supposedly.

Where are you seeing this date? Genuinely curious as I'm not seeing it on any of my usual sites to check yet.

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USA CoVax Mandate Legal News Roundup -- OSHA ETS Activate! Edition

OSHA ETS go-live day has arrived, and we've got neither a decision from the Supreme Court nor a delay in the mandate's activation. What we do have is a giant mess, as private employers now have to try to figure out how to comply with a rule that could evaporate at any minute, and 26 jurisdictions have the ability to create their own variations of the rule. (Archive)

Justice Department Solicitor General Elizabeth Prelogar at Friday’s Supreme Court hearing said that “employers need to be adopting their policies, they need to be ascertaining the vaccination status of their employees, and as of Jan. 10, they need to be requiring masking for any employees who remain unvaccinated.”

The mandate to exclude from workplaces employees who aren’t fully vaccinated or haven’t passed a weekly Covid-19 will “kick in” Feb. 9, Prelogar added.

Federal OSHA allows the governments of 26 states—including California—Puerto Rico, and the U.S. Virgin Islands to adopt and enforce their own workplace safety and health rules for private-industry or state and local government workers, provided their safety measures are at least as good as those prescribed by the federal agency. Those governments have until Jan. 24 to adopt a standard and until late February to begin enforcement.

This is made more complicated by the fact that more and more states, counties, and cities are declaring their intent to flatly refuse to comply, or are outright banning enforcement. Littler has updated their chart where they track the status of the OSHA mandate, including where there are local legal measures neutering or blocking it.

Jurisdictions Seeking to Curtail Private Employer Vaccine Mandates

While mandatory vaccine programs are the focus of this post, employers should be aware that numerous states have taken the opposite approach, adopting new laws intended to curtail workplace vaccine mandates. A couple of states — Montana and Tennessee — have sought to ban such mandates entirely. Others have enacted laws that may not preclude private employers from requiring employee vaccinations but, rather, impose specific limitations on any such programs. For example, several states enacted laws that require private employers to offer expanded exemption options for employees who do not wish to be vaccinated for various reasons. Such laws are not summarized in the chart below but are in place in the following1 jurisdictions:

• Alabama (limitations imposed by legislation effective 11/5/21, and implemented by emergency rules; website here)
• Arkansas (limitations imposed by legislation effective 1/13/22)
• Florida (limitations imposed by legislation effective 11/18/21, and implemented by emergency rules; FAQs here)
• Iowa (limitations imposed by legislation effective 10/29/21)
• Kansas (limitations imposed by legislation effective 11/23/21)
• Montana (ban imposed by legislation effective 5/7/21, and addressed by FAQs)
• North Dakota (limitations imposed by legislation effective 11/15/21)
• Tennessee (ban imposed by legislation effective 11/12/21)
• Texas (limitations imposed by executive order effective 10/11/21)
• Utah (limitations imposed by legislation effective 11/16/21)
• West Virginia (limitations imposed by legislation effective 1/20/22)

Employers requiring further information on specific restrictions should consult with an attorney for details about this pushback from certain states.

Spoiler: Private Employers

If that's not chaotic enough, California found a way to make it worse. As of now, employers can get sued by people their employees coof on. (Archive)

California employers whose employees become infected with COVID-19 while in the workplace and pass the infection to family members can be sued in civil court for resulting injuries suffered by third parties.

A California appellate court has ruled in the matter of See's Candies, Inc., et al. v. Superior Court of Los Angeles (Matilde Ek, et al.) that a wrongful death suit on behalf of a non-employee who allegedly contracted COVID-19 from an employee may proceed. According to the complaint, a group of employees allegedly became infected with COVID-19 in the employer's candy factory due to a lack of social distancing, and one of those employees passed the virus to her non-employee spouse. The employee later recovered, but the non-employee spouse died.

It is important to understand the ruling in context. The trial court dismissed the case before any discovery occurred. In other words, the appellate court simply held that the injured non-employee may be able to make a claim.

It may be difficult for litigants to prove that the virus was spread to the third party by way of the workplace and/or the employee or that the employer failed to have adequate safety protocols. Further, other intervening factors could have prevented the illness. Also, while California workers' compensation law includes a presumption that an employee's virus was contracted in the workplace, it is an open question whether the presumption applies in a lawsuit by a third party.

Not a lawsuit or a vaccine mandate, but related so I'm including it, private insurers are now mandated to cover the cost of up to 8 covid tests per month. (Archive) This kicks in Jan 15.

The new requirement means that most consumers with private health insurance can buy at-home tests online or in stores and have them paid for at the time of purchase or get reimbursed by submitting a claim to their insurer.

Consumers will not need to visit their doctor or get a prescription to obtain the free tests, the department said. And the tests won't be subject to copays or deductibles.

Insurers must pay for up to eight tests per covered individual per month. But there won't be any limit if a doctor orders or administers them after an office visit.

"We are concerned that the policy does not solve for the limited supply of tests in the country and could cause additional consumer friction as insurers stand up a program in just four days' time," said Kim Keck, CEO of the Blue Cross Blue Shield Association.

I'm sure this will roll out smoothly.

 

[Some Badger]

Learned from my mom that my sister, despite being triple-jabbed, working from home and trusting The Science since Day one of this whole fiasco, got omicron just in time for the week of her birthday. Now a regular person might feel bad given the circumstances, but this woman has said some pretty nasty things about people who question the vaccines and vaccine mandates behind my back while I was home for Christmas. When she found out I wasn't vaccinated she tried to interrogate me before my brother cut her off.

As it stands, five people within my immediate and extended family have gotten covid, four of whom are vaccinated and and of the four were omicron cases. I'm the outlier for both, apparently, and I also happen to be the only one who was fully asymptomatic, so you can understand why I've always been a little skeptical about the efficacy of covid vaccines.

Anyways, I don't feel bad for my sister. I don't want to pretend to care about someone suffering who would thinks people who refuse the jab should be denied work, housing, etc. for not getting vaccinated and using them as a scapegoat for why we're still dealing with this bullshit two years in, even if that person happens to be kin. I never liked her to begin with, but it terrifies me all the same that this pandemic is capable of making family members dehumanize each other to the enrichment of pharmaceutical companies and actively encouraged by government PSAs and the MSM. It's all so tiring...

 

[X Prime]

Good on you for not trying to be the "bigger person."

That's just a farce for people to take advantage of you. If the roles were reversed almost no one would say anything.

 

[Some Badger]

Good on you for not trying to be the "bigger person."

That's just a farce for people to take advantage of you. If the roles were reversed almost no one would say anything.

I have nothing to gain from it. Even if she knew all the reasons why I'm so vehemently against the vaccine and the horrifying social implications attached to it, she could never understand them. There's no point in trying to explain yourself when all you get is someone shouting over you every time you open your mouth in protest.