Mega Rad Gun Thread

I think the only collectors market more shitty and vicious than the AK one is the M1 market. Fucking boomers buying 50 rifles and inflating the prices so much that no one younger can afford to get into milsurp, then they wonder why it's dying while going fuck you, got mine.
That's milsurp boomers in general. Can't remember the vast amount times I'd been going to shows both buying and selling being shit-talked by a guy one flight of stairs away from death because I either want too much or wont pay enough while I'm the only one that bothered asking about their dustpile in a sea of ARs and AKs.
 
Aimpoint has a new RDS
>2 MOA dot size
>30,000 hours (over 3 years) of constant operation on setting 7
>1 Off position, 4 night vision compatible settings, and 6 daylight settings
>Weight 3.8 oz / 108 g (sight only)
>Submersible to 80 feet (25 meters)
MSRP is $500 but I could see it go for $400-450, are they trying to "compete" with Holosun?
 
Aimpoint has a new RDS
>2 MOA dot size
>30,000 hours (over 3 years) of constant operation on setting 7
>1 Off position, 4 night vision compatible settings, and 6 daylight settings
>Weight 3.8 oz / 108 g (sight only)
>Submersible to 80 feet (25 meters)
MSRP is $500 but I could see it go for $400-450, are they trying to "compete" with Holosun?
From what I understand this is suppose to be their "budget" option.

Did shot show start already? I've seen a bunch of companies announcing optics the last couple days.
 
From what I understand this is suppose to be their "budget" option.

Did shot show start already? I've seen a bunch of companies announcing optics the last couple days.
SHOT doesn't start until the 17th but SHOT is a relic of olde that only really serves for small companies to get a spotlight shown on them, to allow boomer FFL holders to see new products and for Media personalities and Influencers to get fucking trashed at the end of day parties.
I've seen a bunch of companies announcing optics the last couple days.
Would you mind elaborating? I've only seen Vortex come out with a new magnifier and new super duper long range 3-36x.
 
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Aimpoint has a new RDS
>2 MOA dot size
>30,000 hours (over 3 years) of constant operation on setting 7
>1 Off position, 4 night vision compatible settings, and 6 daylight settings
>Weight 3.8 oz / 108 g (sight only)
>Submersible to 80 feet (25 meters)
MSRP is $500 but I could see it go for $400-450, are they trying to "compete" with Holosun?

From what I understand this is suppose to be their "budget" option.

Did shot show start already? I've seen a bunch of companies announcing optics the last couple days.

LE discount on it is $450, and the PRO MSRPs for under $500 as it is. I wouldn't say this is "budget", more they're pricing it to a certain community. Keep in mind, LE doesn't need bomb proof optics like MIL does so why would you include those features on an optic that's going to sit on a rifle in a trunk or in a gun lock most of its duty life?

That being said, I wish the Micro's had those price points. I might actually grab the new one to try on my MP5.
 
LE discount on it is $450, and the PRO MSRPs for under $500 as it is. I wouldn't say this is "budget", more they're pricing it to a certain community. Keep in mind, LE doesn't need bomb proof optics like MIL does so why would you include those features on an optic that's going to sit on a rifle in a trunk or in a gun lock most of its duty life?

That being said, I wish the Micro's had those price points. I might actually grab the new one to try on my MP5.
I just want Aimpoint to release an optic without the ridiculous submersion ratings they all have to drive the price down (It is safe to assume that manufacturing a product water tight to 120 feet is much more expensive than one water tight at 10 feet) because 99.9999999999999999999999999% of people are never going to have their red dot on or in a body of water.
 
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I just want Aimpoint to release an optic without the ridiculous submersion ratings they all have to drive the price down (It is safe to assume that manufacturing a product water tight to 120 feet is much more expensive than one water tight at 10 feet) because 99.9999999999999999999999999% of people are never going to have their red dot on or in a body of water.
All of their products are aimed at MIL, LE, or Hunting demographics, all of which benefit from some kind of waterproof rating. I would say if you want something cheap and not purpose made, you have Burris, Vortex, Holosun, and a bunch of other mfgs to fill that market demographic.
 
I would say if you want something cheap and not purpose made, you have Burris, Vortex, Holosun, and a bunch of other mfgs to fill that market demographic.
Non Trijicon/Eotech/Aimpoint optics have gotten very good especially these last few years but a comparible option from those companies would be a game changer and essentially eliminate the competition/cause them to further cut prices. Imagine a $400 new production T2 whose only downside is that it's only water proof to 10 feet.
 
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Non Trijicon/Eotech/Aimpoint optics have gotten very good especially these last few years but a comparible option from those companies would be a game changer and essentially eliminate the competition/cause them to further cut prices. Imagine a $400 new production T2 whose only downside is that it's only water proof to 10 feet.
You're going to have to accept the realities of DoD/LE procurement here. These companies don't have to slash their prices because there is always going to be a guaranteed government or LE agency contract out there for them. Even Eotech, who basically defrauded the DoD out of millions, is still getting defense contracts. They don't have to cater to Joe Sixpack who just wants a tube with Aimpoint laser etched on the side but none of the features of an Aimpoint besides a red dot.

Think of Colt, but with a surer position.
 
You're going to have to accept the realities of DoD/LE procurement here. These companies don't have to slash their prices because there is always going to be a guaranteed government or LE agency contract out there for them. Even Eotech, who basically defrauded the DoD out of millions, is still getting defense contracts. They don't have to cater to Joe Sixpack who just wants a tube with Aimpoint laser etched on the side but none of the features of an Aimpoint besides a red dot.

Think of Colt, but with a surer position.
I understand it and I don't like it. I just dream of of non-obscenely expensive because of needless overbuilding (for civillian purposes) optics made by white people in Sweden and Michigan.
 
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Imagine a $400 new production T2 whose only downside is that it's only water proof to 10 feet.
Aimpoint H-1 can be had for $600 on sale, and used usually hovers around $500. it's 15ft submersible and isn't quite as robust as the H-2, but you would have to be looking for something specific for the T-1 or T-2 to make a difference for the shooter.
 
I understand it and I don't like it. I just dream of of non-obscenely expensive because of needless overbuilding (for civillian purposes) optics made by white people in Sweden and Michigan.
Friend of a friend knows someone at Vortex and we were discussing how much it would cost or save them to move production entirely to the US since they have the capability. Sure, their prices would go up but I'd also imagine they wouldn't need that famous warranty of theirs either anymore so that'd have to be some cost savings right there.

Vortex are good people too, I just wish they didn't give Chinese slave labor so much business.
 
Aimpoint has a new RDS
>2 MOA dot size
>30,000 hours (over 3 years) of constant operation on setting 7
>1 Off position, 4 night vision compatible settings, and 6 daylight settings
>Weight 3.8 oz / 108 g (sight only)
>Submersible to 80 feet (25 meters)
MSRP is $500 but I could see it go for $400-450, are they trying to "compete" with Holosun?
Well fuck, I already spent big bucks on the Aimpoint PRO red dot though I do like the bigger lens diameter compared to the 20mm Sig Romeo5.
 
In other news, Smart Guns are here (for real this time though, not like the other times where they either never came out or failed miserably in several ways). The main one featured in the article doesn't work if you're wearing gloves, have an improper grip for whatever reason (or are firing one handed such as when shooting from retention) or when the scanner gets wet/dusty/muddy/dirty etc etc. and is several hundred dollars more expensive than a standard glock (at least it isn't $2000 like another model mentioned in the article). Also I have my doubts about being able to activate the thumb scanner on the draw as a proper thumbs forwards grip from what I understand has the "pads" of the thumbs face downwards.
 
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SHOT doesn't start until the 17th but SHOT is a relic of olde that only really serves for small companies to get a spotlight shown on them, to allow boomer FFL holders to see new products and for Media personalities and Influencers to get fucking trashed at the end of day parties.

Would you mind elaborating? I've only seen Vortex come out with a new magnifier and new super duper long range 3-36x.
No argument from me on SHOT, all trade shows and events like this are pretty pointless thanks to the internet.

Sorry I kind of phrased that wrong I've seen a lot of optics announced mainly from PA and Vortex. The only interesting thing being PA getting into MRDS, with no word on price or foot print yet.
 
RS-10 has survived over 23,000 rounds, including mostly pistol-fired .45 ACP. Since we designed this optic in-house, we demanded that it be the most trustworthy mini reflex sight at its price point. After thousands of rounds from a SCAR-17—and 0 critical failures—we’re confident the RS-10 will exceed all expectations.

I wanna see independent testing of these claims.
 
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