Star Wars Griefing Thread (SPOILERS) - Safety off

[Sneed F91]

What must be going through George Lucas' mind seeing all the characters he created becoming shadows of their former selves?
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"I really should have just directed Apocalypse Now instead of creating this bullshit"

 

[Starscreams Cape]

What must be going through George Lucas' mind seeing all the characters he created becoming shadows of their former selves?
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I hope he's laughing his ass off. It was all the retarded fans who couldn't see the kitschy fun in the prequels and the actually quite good Revenge of the Sith that essentially chased him away from his life's work. I'm sure if they realized that, almost a decade later, we'd all be begging for that clunky dialog as opposed to this demented, farcical horror show Disney has overseen they'd take it all back.

But it's too late. The bad guys win.

 

[King Dead]

It just seems like it'd be annoying.

People pay for the expensive hotels at Disneyworld because they're nice environments to be in. The theming is nice, but no one pretends they're actually 100 years in the past at the Grand Floridian. Or that they're in the South Pacific at the Polynesian. They're nice to wake up in, get breakfast and to return to in the evenings. They're also nice if you want to stay around and take a break from the parks. Go to the pool and relax. Look at a Giraffe out the windows. They're also big and spacious.

None of that seems to be the case at the Starcruiser. It's some weird LARP that seems like it'd be annoying. Also who actually LARPs? For some reason, this niche activity is portrayed as something mainstream by people who like "geeky" stuff. When it's not mainstream at all, and I'm pretty sure how it's portrayed on The Big Bang Theory isn't how it is actually done. There's some weird fictional portrayal of this activity.

The Starcruiser is an experience, but everyone who isn't retarded will be rolling their eyes. Also, where do you relax? There isn't even a pool. The rooms certainly don't look like a nice place to hang out.

The stupid thing is, a Star Wars hotel would be fucking easy to do. The Grand Jewel Palace of Naboo Hotel. Take the Naboo style architecture, make a luxury hotel. Charge a premium rate. Have areas for character meet and greets. It'd be a nice hotel to be in, even if you didn't give a fuck about Star Wars.

Then do a more budget Star Wars hotel. "Star Wars Worlds Hotel." Make a big moderate budget hotel, where the different sections are divided by worlds. Just theme the buildings and areas to different planets and you're done. People will want to stay there. They get all the benefits of a proper hotel with a quirky theme and style.

The whole "cruise ship" thing for the Starcruiser is also not apt because a Cruise Ship is a place you relax. You also do stuff which is up to you and not some lame role-playing game.

Also, what is it, two days? So you then have to also be booked at another hotel if you want to properly experience Disneyworld.

I'm sticking with my hypothesis that this was the brainchild of some particular executive(s) that refuses to accept that their idea was dumb and has been pushing forward regardless. They were so convinced that the public would be clamoring for a two-day, several-grand Disney Wars LARP experience, and no amount of data saying otherwise would dissuade them.

Like you (and I, and others) said, they already had a blueprint for successful Star Wars hotels at Disney World. Build two or three new hotels, or possibly renovate older ones that are a bit out of date, and theme them around Star Wars locations, with the more expensive hotels designed to look like flashier locations and the "budget" options more towards the backwater, Outer Rim-style (but obviously still comfortable). Simple, time-tested, and much cheaper than the LARP hotel, both for Disney and for the consumer.

And that's the worst part to me: there's really no value for the parkgoer. Say you're planning a week-long Disney World vacation, and you decide that this "Galactic Starcruiser" sounds like it could be a fun part of your stay. Well, you can't stay at the hotel for your entire trip, only for the two days that you're running around LARPing, so you've got to find additional lodging for the other days. That also messes with planning since you're going to need to have the Starcruiser be at the beginning or the end; putting it in the middle will just make it a hassle to book a hotel for two separate periods. You can't do anything else at Disney World for those two days, or anywhere else really, save for a short jaunt over to Hollywood Studios. On top of all that, you need to fork over several thousand dollars more for the "privilege" of the Starcruiser LARP, so if it doesn't live up to the high expectations associated with that pricetag, you're going to feel like you utterly wasted your money.

With all this in mind, it's no wonder that they've been getting cancellations left and right. I am not going to be surprised if they end up converting the "Galactic Starcruiser" into a regular resort hotel within a few years.

 

[Trans Fat 41g]

I can't believe that after all those controversies they still have shills who are defending the shitty Sequel park and its hotel.

Welcome to the state of consumerism in the age of sensationalized flus and supply shortages.

 

[Polyboros2]

Also who actually LARPs?

There is some kind of big LARP conspiracy going on. I don't know if there is some belief it's going to bet the next big thing, or someone desperately wants it to be a thing. At first I thought it was just typical cringe watching Null play Life is Strange: True Colors. But than is was reoccurring plot point in Hawkeye.

 

[Milwaukee Macho Man]

There is some kind of big LARP conspiracy going on.

I've had a glut of targeted ad's pushing me towards fantasy LARP clothing, armor, props and weapons recently even though I've never had an interest in it or even searched anything about it other than just searching for old sword and sorcery stories.

Shit's pretty expensive, so I could see why "they" would want to turn it into the next big thing tbqh.

 

[Mary the Goldsmith]

late as hell to the starcruiser discussion but I'm gonna sperg anyway.

Spoiler: autistic sperging

As it has been said the price is stupidly high, forget the LARPing aspect for a minute, everything looks so cheap, and the itinerary doesn't sound very exciting especially since the place is expected to be full of people, for example apparently at one point I would get to man the bridge controls or some shit, but for that high of a price I would expect at least some say 10 minute long interactive game where I sit on the captain's char and push the buttons and see the shields activate, use the hyper drive and have the chair move or something to simulate the effect, maybe fire at an imperial ship, but since this is gonna be full of people I'm most likely just gonna go press two buttons and then move quickly because the next in line is losing his patience, and because of the whole itinerary you know this won't have me wait hours in line so the guy currently at the bridge gets to have fun.
The mandatory laser tag game in the middle of the night may sound cool on paper to some, but getting woken up in the middle of the night is not fun, or at least not my idea of fun.
And for the price they charge There better be Twi 'lek hookers

There is some kind of big LARP conspiracy going on. I don't know if there is some belief it's going to bet the next big thing, or someone desperately wants it to be a thing. At first I thought it was just typical cringe watching Null play Life is Strange: True Colors. But than is was reoccurring plot point in Hawkeye.

Sometimes I go on /x/ to laugh at the schizo threads, back in I think was 2016, there was a thread where an anon claimed to work for an "Elite entertainment/Make-believe" company" he said that the rich elites supposedly pay a shit ton of money to engage in LARP, he mentioned that he was once paid by a US senator to stage a fake kidnapping and then "recreate the testicle torture scene" from Casino Royale. Maybe there is some truth to what that anon was saying.

 

[Ishtar]

What must be going through George Lucas' mind seeing all the characters he created becoming shadows of their former selves?
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While this speaks to a general trend, it also reveals something about Disney and Pop culture narratives in general.

That is having "bad" or "amoral" protagonists is simply out of most people's conceptual imagination. Heroes have to be good, because the role of the hero is for the audience to project their own yearnings, beliefs, and expectations onto them. A villainous protagonist simply can't comport with their need to see themselves (or whatever ideal of themselves in their own minds) onto the narrative.

A ruthless amoral protagonist would legit be interesting, especially in SW (the only examples I think of are probably Malgus, Bane and Zannah, and maybe some other Legends content here and there)-that would freshen things up, but Disney is congenitally incapable of that.

As an aside, making the show about the poor oppressed indigenous Tuskens is somehow exactly what I expected from the intersectional tumblrinas that make up Disney's "creative team".

 

[The Valeyard]

Here is another video full of cope from Doomcuck.

1:21 “Jon Favreau and Dave Filoni are working diligently on erasing the Sequel Trilogy that Kennedy created. They’re fully aware how badly Kennedy hurt Star Wars and they have a plan to erase the Sequel Trilogy banish it to the realm of Star Wars Legends and forget about it but this plan is being implemented across multiple series including Ahsoka and this plan is going to take years to finish.”

His “proof“ that the Lucasfilm Civil War was real and that Favreau won? Doomcuck claims that Favreau has left coded messages in the first two episodes of Boba Fat.

The gang stealing water from the moisture farmers in the first episode paint a symbol on the homestead which Doomcuck says is the Nal-Huttese letter for ‘K’ based on a fanmade alphabet.

6:14 “Those symbols translate as ‘KK’ so these thugs and vandals symbolically are working for Kathleen Kennedy, obviously not in the plot, but this is a coded symbolic message to fans. And what is that message exactly? The message is goons working for Kathleen Kennedy have vandalised Star Wars as symbolised by the defilement of the iconic moisture farmer homestead that resembles Luke Skywalker’s home, it could not possibly be clearer.

These literal vandals represent the cultural vandals hired by Kathleen Kennedy; Jar Jar Abrams, Ruin Johnson, and the Lucasfilm Story Group - they are trashing a homestead much like Luke’s homestead in Star Wars thus Favreau and Filoni are sending a message to fans, we know and acknowledge that Kathleen Kennedy has trashed Star Wars.”

7:28 “Most Star Wars fans didn’t notice it but once you understand the translation it’s impossible to ignore. Obviously Jon and Dave can’t just come out and publicly trash Kathleen Kennedy it’s just not possible in the Disney corporate culture, but they’ve planted this message in the first episode, a message to fans that regardless of Kennedy’s contract status they acknowledge that Kennedy has damaged Star Wars, but even more there’s a second part to this message that’s even better and that part tells us that Favreau and Filoni are taking Star Wars back for fans.”

He then points to the Camie and Fixer cameo in the second episode.

8.49 “Boba Fett returns to Tosche Station where these same Klatoonians are bullying Luke’s old friends. Yet again symbolically Kennedy’s goons are bullying and assaulting the original Star Wars. We can tell they’re the same bunch of vandals from episode one because their distinctive speeder bikes are parked outside the bar. Boba Fett goes in there and kicks their asses, straight up kicks their asses. And what is the symbolic message here? Kathleen Kennedy may have vandalised Star Wars set the franchise on fire and tagged it with her name but Lucasfilm loyalists symbolised by the original Star Wars character Boba Fett are purging Lucasfilm of Kennedy’s hired goons and are taking Star Wars back.”

9.44 “If he’d simply scrawled on ‘K’ on that wall I think this could be open to interpretation but those goons put two K’s on that wall, ’K.K’ that was no accident. That was a message, and thus we can all rest assured that the Lucasfilm Civil War is over, Kennedy’s woke legions lost, and Favreau and Filoni are moving forward to erase the Sequel Trilogy“

 

[Creep3r]

Here is another video full of cope from Doomcuck.

How do thousands keep believing this stupid fucker and Mike Zeroh? Is the hopium fix really that important?

1:21 “Jon Favreau and Dave Filoni are working diligently on erasing the Sequel Trilogy that Kennedy created. They’re fully aware how badly Kennedy hurt Star Wars and they have a plan to erase the Sequel Trilogy banish it to the realm of Star Wars Legends

This doesn't even make any fucking sense. SW Legends as Disney calls it is just rebrand of the old continuity and adding the sequels to it would make about as much sense as claiming that Ghostbusters 2016 will now take place in-between Ghostbusters and Ghostbusters II. There's nowhere to even add them because Lucasfilm doesn't have an official label for what isn't canon anymore like pre-Disney had with "Infinities". The only way you know if something ain't part of DisCanon these days is to ask Porgcuck on twitter.

this plan is being implemented across multiple series including Ahsoka and this plan is going to take years to finish.”

Niggercock they've already said they're considering ideas for sequel shows, and Mandalorian already implemented elements from TFA, TLJ and PlanIX, and they've even taken elements from the highly despised and low selling Chuck Wendig books which Book of Boba Fat has also done. If this was their plan, they wouldn't be so adamant about labeling Ahsoka a "not-jedi" and giving the Thrawn Trilogy over to her instead of Luke, and Favreau and Filoni wouldn't be talking about how the shows eventually tie in to the formation of the First Order.

His “proof“ that the Lucasfilm Civil War was real and that Favreau won? Doomcuck claims that Favreau has left coded messages in the first two episodes of Boba Fat.

This ought to be good.

The gang stealing water from the moisture farmers in the first episodepaint a symbol on the homestead which Doomcuck says is the Nal-Huttese letter for ‘K’ based on a fanmade alphabet.

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6:14 “Those symbols translate as ‘KK’ so these thugs and vandals symbolically are working for Kathleen Kennedy, obviously not in the plot, but this is a coded symbolic message to fans. And what is that message exactly? The message is goons working for Kathleen Kennedy have vandalised Star Wars as symbolised by the defilement of the iconic moisture farmer homestead that resembles Luke Skywalker’s home, it could not possibly be clearer.

Decided to look this up and disprove this retarded claim.

They slapped that graffiti everywhere, and the single K they use on their graffiti, stupid shoulder guards and backs stands for "Kintan Striders" hence the little caricature of a Kintan Strider on the back of their jackets.

These literal vandals represent the cultural vandals hired by Kathleen Kennedy; Jar Jar Abrams, Ruin Johnson, and the Lucasfilm Story Group - they are trashing a homestead much like Luke’s homestead in Star Wars thus Favreau and Filoni are sending a message to fans, we know and acknowledge that Kathleen Kennedy has trashed Star Wars.”

Reaching much?

7:28 “Most Star Wars fans didn’t notice it but once you understand the translation it’s impossible to ignore. Obviously Jon and Dave can’t just come out and publicly trash Kathleen Kennedy it’s just not possible in the Disney corporate culture, but they’ve planted this message in the first episode, a message to fans that regardless of Kennedy’s contract status they acknowledge that Kennedy has damaged Star Wars, but even more there’s a second part to this message that’s even better and that part tells us that Favreau and Filoni are taking Star Wars back for fans.”

How can one Texan faggot be this deluded?

He then points to the Camie and Fixer cameo in the second episode.

8.49 “Boba Fett returns to Tosche Station where these same Klatoonians

They're Niktos, Doomcock... And people still want to pretend this guy is some sort of star wars sage and total insider?

are bullying Luke’s old friends. Yet again symbolically Kennedy’s goons are bullying and assaulting the original Star Wars. We can tell they’re the same bunch of vandals from episode one because their distinctive speeder bikes are parked outside the bar. Boba Fett goes in there and kicks their asses, straight up kicks their asses. And what is the symbolic message here? Kathleen Kennedy may have vandalised Star Wars set the franchise on fire and tagged it with her name but Lucasfilm loyalists symbolised by the original Star Wars character Boba Fett are purging Lucasfilm of Kennedy’s hired goons and are taking Star Wars back.”

If Filoni wasn't interested in honoring the trash that made Luke and legacy characters look like morons, he wouldn't have brought in Dr. Aphra's OCs or given Wendig's shit validation, and would've instead honored KW Jeter's novels instead, which didn't have gay knockoffs of Dancing with Wolves as flashbacks and had Boba be an amoral douchebag who went around ruining the lives of hundreds of other bounty hunters in the guild.

9.44 “If he’d simply scrawled on ‘K’ on that wall I think this could be open to interpretation but those goons put two K’s on that wall, ’K.K’ that was no accident. That was a message, and thus we can all rest assured that the Lucasfilm Civil War is over, Kennedy’s woke legions lost, and Favreau and Filoni are moving forward to erase the Sequel Trilogy“

I saw a ketchup stain that looked like Elvis today. I guess this means he's really not dead!

Also speaking of Book of Bob...

Ffs they didn't bother to even give them some foot covers or replace the yellow plates. You can even a see a bit of the Boston Dynamics logo on them. But its okay because "OMG Science(TM) cameo!"

 

[The Valeyard]

What is the "coded message" behind Shadow the Chewbacca (from Disney's Doctor Aphra comics) beating the shit out of Boba Fat I wonder?

And it being Fennec Shand that defeats Shadow the Chewbacca by trapping him in the palace's rancor pit.

 

[Tor Lugosi]

- loses nearly every battle he's in
- constantly needs to be saved
- lets nearly everyone talk down to him
- simps for the tuskens
- "I'll rule with respect, not fear."
- his righthand man is a woman who is like 10 times more effective and lethal than he is
- looks after a group of multi-ethnic street orphans
- fawns over his new pet dog rancor

what else can they do to defang Boba Fett? literally neuter him?

 

[Creep3r]

What is the "coded message" behind Shadow the Chewbacca (from Disney's Doctor Aphra comics) beating the shit out of Boba Fat I wonder?

And it being Fennec Shand that defeats Shadow the Chewbacca by trapping him in the palace's rancor pit.

So while Doctor FUCKING Aphra is currently busy cucking and humiliating Luke, Han, Vader, Bossk, Dr. Evazan, Ponda Boba, Domina, Rur, Durge, Figrin Dan and that green twilek from Aladdin's Rebels in the comics so they don't look biased (and nuHan's gf from Solo is busy cucking Xizor), her sidekick Shadow the Chewbacca is busy bitch-slapping nuBoba in live-action. The fact that Shadow the Chewbacca survives this further supports the leaks that he and Boba will be teaming up later, but at the same time, the events listed in the leak here aren't exact so far.

I mean they have the brutal beatdown part right, but this can only mean the respect comes later. Either that or the anon was literally pulling shit out of his ass based on a few known tibdits but still got it right because the show is just that predictable.

Also why do they keep removing his fucking helmet? Filoni gave his mando OC that "never take off your helmet rule" which wasn't even a mando thing, just Boba's thing before Disney, and now Boba's the one who can't keep his helmet on for more than 2 minutes despite that the rule only existed for Boba for the last 30 years before Disney because LFL of olde knew that people loved the silent armor and the menacing quiet character behind it, and that's what sold merch and media featuring him, not the actor.

 

[Midwit]

Eh, they just decided to Worf Boba again to big up their comic character. The bigger concern I have is that all the episode's contents can be summed up as:

1. Boba becomes aware of Tatooine's nonexistant economy
2. Boba recruits a gang of modded Mods
3. (Flashback) The Tuskens fucking die
4. Coldsteel the Wookhog fights Boba's gang and only loses due to standing in the wrong spot
5. The Hutts immediately call a truce and tell Boba that the Pykes are the real threat
6. Boba learns that the Mayor is definitively up to no good
7. The Pykes arrive

It's fucking nothing, the twins only exist as a red herring who's sole addition to the "plot" was the facilitation of an action scene with Coldsteel and were likely only there so that the episode would be able to reach the 2 action scenes per episode mandate that seems to be effecting all the Mandoverse shows. And speaking of action scenes; the Modded Mods just don't fit on Tatooine at all and, with exception of their 10/10 vehicle designs, are almost at odds with the universe as a whole with their general design language. The speeder chase was garbage too, there was no feeling of speed at all and any semi-decent car would be able to kick the shit out of a Vespa in a chase no matter how malaised the engine is, doubly so considering how the car's design was clearly evocative of 60s Pontiac and those things aren't slouches in the engine department.

Spoiler: 60s Pontaic, for comparison's sake

This would be excusable if the episode had good character work, but this show barely even has characters to begin with so it's just a bunch of things happening with no buildup in a world I know nothing about. I know it's unfair to compare the two shows but I've finally gotten around to watching Breaking Bad (currently halfway through season 2) and my god the difference in quality is just astounding, the Book of Bob's main issue thus far is the lack of consequences for Boba's (in)actions and the lack of coherent worldbuilding despite the show having a plot that depends heavily on having a believable and thought-out setting, whilst the other show has both in spades. For all the shit I can give Mando at least something actually happening three episodes in.

budget Star Wars hotel

If you want to go really low budget you could make the Mos Eisley Motel which is exactly what it says on the tin, a cheap motel with grubby Star Wars styling that becomes more accurate the more run down it becomes.

- looks after a group of multi-ethnic street orphans

That are all inexplicably British, I might add.

 

[starborn427614]

Bit of a schlocky episode of Boba this week. Liked the idea of him riding a Rancor though.

 

[Kup]

I saw this and burst out laughing

Artwork Boba Fett
-keeps his helmet on
-Lean
-Tall
-bothered to get in shape
-has a bit of swagger
-fully armoured
-wears the classic outfit but it’s clearly not the same, it’s been rebuilt back to it’s prime, much like himself
-probably feared in his universe.
-guards wear armor
-doesn’t get saved, he saves his people
-isn’t a bitch
We got the Virgin Boba Fett, which is perfectly in-line with Disney.

2022 is shaping up to be one of the funny ones, hope the rest of the shows are of this “quality.”

 

[Tor Lugosi]

Fett: Shand, get me teenagers with attitude!

 

[Creep3r]

Fett: Shand, get me teenagers with attitude!
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Geezus this is their idea of good vehicle designs? Its like those cheap colorful speeder bikes from TORtanic only somehow uglier, like sowing machines with bicycle handles welded on them.

- loses nearly every battle he's in
- constantly needs to be saved
- lets nearly everyone talk down to him
- simps for the tuskens
- "I'll rule with respect, not fear."
- his righthand man is a woman who is like 10 times more effective and lethal than he is
- looks after a group of multi-ethnic street orphans
- fawns over his new pet dog rancor

what else can they do to defang Boba Fett? literally neuter him?

This whole episode was made to prop up a fucking comic book character from a godawful comic that was exclusively made to pander to twitter brats and reddit trustafarians while earning some of that sweet ESG money because its lead characters are all lesbians.

 

[Sneed F91]

Fett: Shand, get me teenagers with attitude!
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Please tell me this isn't fucking real

 

[starborn427614]

I saw this and burst out laughing
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Artwork Boba Fett
-keeps his helmet on
-Lean
-Tall
-bothered to get in shape
-has a bit of swagger
-fully armoured
-wears the classic outfit but it’s clearly not the same, it’s been rebuilt back to it’s prime, much like himself
-probably feared in his universe.
-guards wear armor
-doesn’t get saved, he saves his people
-isn’t a bitch
We got the Virgin Boba Fett, which is perfectly in-line with Disney.

2022 is shaping up to be one of the funny ones, hope the rest of the shows are of this “quality.”

It is a bit weird that he hasn't given his guards armour yet. Maybe he finds them being naked funny.