US Joe Biden News Megathread - The Other Biden Derangement Syndrome Thread (with a side order of Fauci Derangement Syndrome)

Let's pretend for one moment that he does die before the election, just for the funsies. What happens then? Will the nomination revert to option number 2, aka Bernie Sanders? Or will his running mate automatically replace him just the way Vice-President is supposted to step in after the Big Man in the White House chokes on a piece of matzo? Does he even have a running mate yet?

 

[WhatInTheActualFuck]

Checking Likely Voters is usually seen as unneccessary. People can change their views on whether they will or will not vote on the fly. Registered Voters is -usually- the gold standard as it's not prone to sudden shifts based on a single policy and has fewer peaks and valleys.

Addendum:
Since the subject was brought up, a quick primer.

All Adults: Not as useless as it seems. Gives a good measurement of the general sentiment -of a region-. Often abused by pollsters to try to claim national levels of support. This is a misuse, the national sentiment is too varied for this to be accurate. My firm actually makes use of it a fair bit, as it can let you clue in to what the general populace is feeling. Also, very useful data to pass on to ground-level workers whose job it is to get people to register and out to vote.

Registered Voters: The general gold standard. People often don't really decide if they are going to vote or not until about the week prior to the vote. This group removes that uncertainty and gives a good feel for general voting patterns. It is, in most cases, the more accurate of the three for how a vote will go. But is not without pitfalls. A particularly bad candidate can depress their vote, in which case Likely Voters becomes the secondary gold standard. It is why both are usually used and their weighted average is used for aggregates.

Likely Voters: Selects for those who are fairly certain both that they will vote and who they will vote for. Rather obviously, this selects for those already invested in the system. Generally missing the sections of people who only really decide how and who they will vote for close to the deadline. Still provides significant views on how the more hardcore elements of the parties and more diligent members of the populace will vote.

Weren't Trafalgar and Rasmussen among the most accurate in the last couple of elections, despite both having a rep for being "right-leaning"?

 

[pwnest injun]

it still leaked from a Chinese lab because the Chinese suck at things like basic lab safety. American and Russian labs still store anthrax, and you never hear about mass outbreaks due to lab incompetence

It was made with US money to US specs in a Chinese factory, and like every other fucking thing, they fucked up some basic 1st principles thing and well, here we are..

 

[Gehenna]

Weren't Trafalgar and Rasmussen among the most accurate in the last couple of elections, despite both having a rep for being "right-leaning"?

Correct. In part because we are dealing with increasingly dire issues with voter depression.

 

[Marissa Moira]

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Ok, I get the Turks and Star Trek Discovery, but the Nickelback comparison was just a bridge too far.

 

[WhatInTheActualFuck]

Correct. In part because we are dealing with increasingly dire issues with voter depression.

When you say "voter depression", are you referring to the tendency of people to disavow right-leaning opinions publically due to fear of cancellation/similar consequences? I know that it's a thing, but also that everyone that is in that boat resents the fuck out of having to play that game.

 

[Trianon]

The less publicized story of Youngkin's win over McAuliffe is the fact that for the first time in years the VA level GOP had their shit together and there was a record number of poll watchers and new election department volunteers. Even if the national level Republicans are too feckless to call out electoral abuse on the national stage, there are literally millions of people on the ground who have not forgotten and are now watching their districts like hawks.

Yes. It seems like it was a matter of a ground game emerging of fed-up Republicans who had a good enough "election integrity" plan that the national GOP approved giving them monetary resources without making a big announcement about it. This allowed them to train up a ton of poll watchers without giving Dems the playbook until it was too late to counter it.

The Virginia GOP has sucked for a while, so it was heartening to see Virginians pull it together. This grassroots scrutiny also contributed to exposing corrupt school boards, since every Dem-adjacent institution completely crumpled under any scrutiny at all.

Absolutely zero coincidence that this leaks and Fauci walks into the Senate Health Committee meeting the next morning absolutely fucking SEETHING.
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PAUL: "Do you really think it's appropriate to use your $420,000 salary to attack scientists that disagree with you?"
FAUCI: "The email you're referring to was a email of Dr. Collins to me, if you look at the email-"
PAUL: "That you responded to and hurried up and said 'I can do it, I can do it, we've got something inwired-'"
FAUCI: "No no no, I think in usual fashion, Senator, you are distorting everything about me."
PAUL: "Did you ever object to Dr. Collins' characterization of them as friends? Did you write back to Dr. Collins and say 'No they're not friends, they're esteemed scientists, and it would be beneath me-'"
FAUCI: "I did not-"
PAUL: "You responded to him that you would do it! And you immediately got an article and wired it, you sent it back to him, said 'Hey look I've got them, I've nailed them' and wired all the scientists-"
FAUCI: "That's not what went on, there you go again, you just do the same thing every hearing."
PAUL: "This wasn't the only time. So your desire to take down people-"
FAUCI: "You're incorrect as usual, Senator, you're incorrect [on] almost everything you say."
PAUL: "You deny, you deny, but the emails tell the truth of this."
FAUCI: "No."
PAUL: "This wasn't the only time, your desire to take down those who disagree with, you didn't stop with Harvard, Oxford and Stanford. You conspired with Peter Daszak, who you communicated with privately, and other members of the scientific community that wrote opinion pieces for Nature. 5 of them signed a paper for Nature - an opinion piece - 17 signed a paper that called it conspiracy theory, the idea that the virus could've originated in the lab. Do you think words like conspiracy theory should be in a scientific paper?"
FAUCI: "Senator, I never used that word, when I was referring to it, you're distorting virtually everything-"
PAUL: "Did you communicate with the 5 scientists who wrote the opinion piece in Nature, where they were describing 'oh, there's no way this could-'"
FAUCI: "That was not me-"
PAUL: "Did you talk with any of those scientists privately?"
FAUCI: "You keep distorting the truth-"
PAUL: "Did you talk to any of the scientists privately, who wrote the opinion?"
FAUCI: "Yes!"
PAUL: "You did- what were they telling you privately?"
FAUCI: "But let me explain, you know you're going back to that original discussion when I brought together a group of people to look at every possibility with an open mind, so not only are you distorting it, you are completely turning it around as you usually-"
PAUL: "The scientists that came to you privately, did they come to you privately and say 'No way this came from the lab'? Or was there initial impression, Dr. Gerry and others that were involved, was there initial impression [of] 'Actually, it looked very suspicious for a virus that came from a lab.'"
FAUCI: "Senator, we are here, at a committee, to look at a virus now that has killed 900,000 people. Now the purpose of the committee was to try and get things out, how we can help to get the American public, and you keep coming back to personal attacks on me that have absolutely no relevance to reality."

PAUL: Did some scientists you talked to say it could have come from a lab?
FAUCI: THIS IS A PERSONAL ATTACK.

The best politicians tend to be the ones with skin in the game. The ones that have some investment in the wellbeing of the people whose will they represent. Trump's investment is his ego. The guy wants to be popular, so he does things that he thinks will make him popular. Remember all the Black people who ordinarily wouldn't stop to piss on him if he was on fire suddenly saying "Trump is my nigga!" once the first round of stimulus checks started going out?

I was just reading some Founding Fathers' papers about "skin in the game" theory today. It's well known they only wanted to extend the vote to the propertied classes, which is often turned around as them being elitist. But John Adams and James Madison wrote extensively about how important it was to make sure every American had the opportunity to acquire property and wealth, that the economy had to be working at such maximum capacity that it would be easy to get a stake. Because men with no stake in their country are easily led by fear, by foreign actors, by grifters, by greed. But if everyone has something, there's no resentment or fear driving politics, and everyone has the same reason to want the nation to prosper. They had a lot of interesting ideas that the left and right would agree on today if people read them.

 

[Mothra1988]

Trump sticking to his vax guns is probably the Trump-est thing I've seen him do in a while.
Any rational politician in his position would have started dialing it back and never speak of it again under penalty of torture.

It's also smart re-election strategy because it allows him to move back to the middle again and show that the Democrats' fear mongering over him is BS.

Back on-topic, the fact Biden and the Dems are trying to push this election stealing bill through with the nuclear option validates every negative thing that has ever been said about them and the left. I guess since their poll numbers are so low they just decided to take off the mask and go for a naked power grab.

 

[Salubrious]

Not sure a better place to put this, but people are apparently shocked again that Trump is in favor of the vaccines he tried to help get made. Seems like he's annoyed that Republican politicians aren't promoting his vaccine. Curious as to what Republican congressmen will do now.

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This has been Trump's stance since before he left office: Vaccines are great, I did a wonderful job with "Operation Warp Speed" because I'm the best, everyone should take them, but they should not be mandated.

Yes, more of Trump's base are now skeptical because of all the bullshit from Fauci, the CDC, and the Biden admin the past year, but Trump's message has never changed. And even he understands why his base are skeptical so he just says "I understand your position, but I still think you should get them."

The media pretending that Trump's base is turning on him is the funniest shit ever. Trump's position has not once changed in 14 months. If anything, they boo because they don't trust these vaccines thanks to FAUCI. That and the fact that we have record highs despite boosters, but that's "misinformation", everyone knows that vaccines don't "prevent" spread even though that's literally not what they said several months ago.

 

[Gehenna]

When you say "voter depression", are you referring to the tendency of people to disavow right-leaning opinions publically due to fear of cancellation/similar consequences? I know that it's a thing, but also that everyone that is in that boat resents the fuck out of having to play that game.

Nah, I mean people just deciding they don't want to vote. Most polls use Registered Voters as the criteria, and normally it is the most accurate. But in a situation of voter depression, where the large number of voters who normally decide they will vote near the deadline choose instead to not vote at all, Likely Voters becomes the more accurate one. But the number of polling firms who use that instead of Registered Voters is very small.

 

[Terrifik]

German jannies mad people hating lockdowns

the cathederal says the sign is not big enough for sites.

https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1481211728457498633

 

[Weppers]

Man look at this shit from 538.



Three fifths of their "pro-democracy" score is literally just bellyaching about the mostly peaceful protest, and more bellyaching about anyone who didn't bother voting to impeach a lame duck president a week before he left office.

 

[The Ugly One]

Man look at this shit from 538.

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Three fifths of their "pro-democracy" score is literally just bellyaching about the mostly peaceful protest, and more bellyaching about anyone who didn't bother voting to impeach a lame duck president a week before he left office.

When a small group of terrorists beats people up and lights fires to get the local government to pass an unpopular "defund the police" message, though, that's just democracy in action.

 

[Lorne Armstrong]

When a small group of terrorists beats people up and lights fires to get the local government to pass an unpopular "defund the police" message, though, that's just democracy in action.

Part and parcel

 

[Billy Beer]

That's... way too complicated. Plausible, but not quite as plausible as "Chinese work ethic and quality control applies to their biosafety labs just as much as it does their construction work". I personally don't think the CPC would have deliberately released COVID for the simple fact that if anything could drive international opinion against them, its something like oh... being responsible for a worldwide pandemic and the ensuing chaos and destruction. There's a reason the Chinese are antsy as fuck about anyone looking into the circumstances of COVID popping up and its spread, and its almost certainly because a mistake happened and while dealing with the aftermath they decided to turn it into a happy little accident. "If we're fucked dealing with this, why not the rest of the world?"

'China' releasing Covid just means someone from the states phoned China (Precedent here with Milley) and said "Release the bat-virus". China agreed because their globohomo team mates were getting their palms crossed.

Look at how the swamp pushed against Trump in everything he did. Hell, if it wasn't for the swamp and MSM, the spread would have been reduced due to travel bans and most people would be munching on hydroxochloriquine (or whatever it's called) which is a known curative for COVID. That's before his jabs would have rolled around for the elderly and vulnerable, and voila, no more (it becomes seasonal) covid by Xmas 2020.

Try not to focus on what the Chinese did, but instead look at the reaction TO China. Of course nobody was allowed to go sniffing (because it was a plan to release covid) and of course the swamp ran interference for china, because the swamp were in leagues with China.

.... Im both comforted and horrified at how plausibly petty this all is, as opposed to outright genocidal.

Give people all of the money, power and influence in the world and deep down we're all still kids on a playground wanting to be the best and most popular.

"Nuh-uh! Donald's toys are not better than ours!"

It doesn't seem that likely that China would have unleashed a virus upon its own country to pwn Drumpf. Maybe it's a lab made virus, maybe it's from horrifying conditions of China's wild meat industry, or some mix of the two like someone making money on the side by selling lab animals for food.

Not to own drumpf, that was the pay off for the swamp. China got increasing social controls and were able to usher in even more surviellence and monitoring of their citizens who were started to get a little restless. They barred people in their homes, made a big theatre of getting to zero covid, all while clamping down on restrictions. Didn't 1.1 million chinks have to queue the other day for money or bread or whatever?

Here's a quick list of power players and what they got:

The Swamp - Trump out, their guy in
Lefty whackos like AOC - Promised to have their policies introduced (before the double-cross)
Chinks - More social control and interference ran so they didn't take the flack
The Fed - Inflation, Baby
MSM+SM - More fact checkers, more control, more surveillence more power

Secondary winners who exploited an opportunity:

Pfizer/moderna - Mega money for a vaccine that doesn't work.
Big business - Amazon, Uber eats, Mcdonalds managed to sweep up
Digital hosting services - Microsoft (Bill flipping Gates) and Amazon host 90% of the worlds media on their servers. They saw a big uptick due to the people stuck at homes with lockdowns.
Big Business - Small, Medium Enterprises shut down at record rates, allowing big business to hoover up competition for cheap, extending influence and power.

Feel free to add your own. I believe you'll see a web of interconnectivity between the elites where everyone had their back scratched to keep up with the lie.

Remember, I believe Biden fucked the whole thing up, which is what led to the disastrous exit of Afghan, supply chain shortage (china mad), power tussles in washington (members of the swamp and whackos being double-crossed). It explains a lot of what we're seeing.

 

[Oats12345]

I m gonna stand up for @Gehenna here on one point.

One nice thing that our dear leader and feeder null does by suffering host this place is his commitment to free speech, and promotion of anonymity.

This can give rise to people to speak more openly and candidly.

I used to read a website called somethingawful.com and it had a serious political discussion forum that for a few years was pretty good to read. people who knew their shit ether how to argue or experience on HUGE variety of topics could hash it out. Sadly that forum is a rotting corpse of it former self because of IPOL and group think etc.

Gehenna says he works for a political consulting firm, and basically talks shop, he openly pontificates his own theories and opinions and when he can he backs them up.

The insights he s brought to this thread off the top of my head are

1) the concept of political capital and how it relates to the current admin

2) explanation/theory for what is motivating the current admin

3) the only real insider info he provided has been that CNN is doing the political analysis for the current admin.

The fact a dude working for a state level firm is often engaged here is not because his insights are soo fucking salacious its because our current media is a fucking joke, ideally we should be able to turn to any fucking cable, channel or fuck a youtube channel and have educated people providing these kinda analysis and takes and we dont.

He doesnt have a youtube channel or twitter or newsletter he isnt running a grift or self promotion, that with his own disclaimers means people like me and others will put some stock into what he thinks or says.

finally if I m gonna shit on this side of the farms and this sub forum it will be this.

The world isnt fucking static its always in motion the conspiracy shit is annoying. The (((XXX))) have a plan thats been in the works for the last 200 years.

Did the (((XXX))) know the soviet union would collapse? Did the (((XXX))) know perot would split the vote and bring in the clintons? was trump put in power by (((XXX))) to serve (((XXX)))?

Oh yeah biden and all the shit we ve been seeing is all part of that plan from 10, 20, 2000 years ago.

And finally the way people view republicans is just fucking weird you all act like the forever wars and 2000-2008 never fucking happened.

The fucking wuflu it sounds like some chinese people were fucking around with a virus, of course someone fucked up. and then given the nature of chinese society, political and medical system every thing that could be done wrong was

1) the people working at the lab went to a hospital to be seen.
2) hopital staff spread it
3) local officials suppress knowledge
4) Its chinese new year so everyone travels
5) locals have a huge pot luck
6) WHO is compromised by china so they worry more about racism then being effective

The virus being realsed wasnt some master plan, if was a fuck up. And if this fucking virus was 1/10th as deadly as everyone yells about then 3 weeks after summer of love 2020 we woulda been better off.

Okay I m gonna stop ranting.

I find Gehenna one of the few people I feel actually I can actually trust on these things

Huh, I didn't know there was a House vacancy. Democrat Sheila Cherfilus-McCormick effortlessly won an election in Florida's 20th congressional district (which is D+53) today, which has been vacant since the previous Rep. died of pancreatic cancer back in April. Cherfilus-McCormick is notable partially because she appointed her aide to fill the position of commissioner of Broward County back in November 2020, and the former commissioner retaliated by filing a lawsuit accusing her of bribing voters and having ballots double-counted. Which is funny because you almost never hear a Democrat call voter fraud when another Democrat wins.

How come I feel there's always a house vacancy that I was not aware of lately?

Not sure a better place to put this, but people are apparently shocked again that Trump is in favor of the vaccines he tried to help get made. Seems like he's annoyed that Republican politicians aren't promoting his vaccine. Curious as to what Republican congressmen will do now.

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This has always been Trumps stance. He's pro vaccine anti mandate. Is he going to have to say that constantly?

This has been Trump's stance since before he left office: Vaccines are great, I did a wonderful job with "Operation Warp Speed" because I'm the best, everyone should take them, but they should not be mandated.

Yes, more of Trump's base are now skeptical because of all the bullshit from Fauci, the CDC, and the Biden admin the past year, but Trump's message has never changed. And even he understands why his base are skeptical so he just says "I understand your position, but I still think you should get them."

The media pretending that Trump's base is turning on him is the funniest shit ever. Trump's position has not once changed in 14 months. If anything, they boo because they don't trust these vaccines thanks to FAUCI. That and the fact that we have record highs despite boosters, but that's "misinformation", everyone knows that vaccines don't "prevent" spread even though that's literally not what they said several months ago.

I do love how the media tries to play that clip of Trump's supporters booing at him ignoring the fact that they quickly switched to cheering again after Trump switch topics.

 

[The Ugly One]

Here's a quick list of power players and what they got:

The Swamp - Trump out, their guy in
Lefty whackos like AOC - Promised to have their policies introduced (before the double-cross)
Chinks - More social control and interference ran so they didn't take the flack
The Fed - Inflation, Baby
MSM+SM - More fact checkers, more control, more surveillence more power

Secondary winners who exploited an opportunity:

Pfizer/moderna - Mega money for a vaccine that doesn't work.
Big business - Amazon, Uber eats, Mcdonalds managed to sweep up
Digital hosting services - Microsoft (Bill flipping Gates) and Amazon host 90% of the worlds media on their servers. They saw a big uptick due to the people stuck at homes with lockdowns.
Big Business - Small, Medium Enterprises shut down at record rates, allowing big business to hoover up competition for cheap, extending influence and power.

Remember, a trillion dollars of wealth got shifted from the middle class to the 0.1% during this pandemic. This was a win all around for the ruling class. They fucked us over, and half the country is bent over, spreading their cheeks, and begging for more.

 

[thyme's up]

>President Harris
Keep in mind that this isn't the first time he's uttered those words. Is this foreshadowing that he knows his time (i.e. life) is up pretty soon?

I'm a little late on this but I wouldn't be surprised if he really thinks he's says Vice President and his long term memory brain shoots out the word President. His speeches are all delivered in campaign mode anyway--he never sounds like he's the president but he does sound like he's campaigning all the time.

Expect LV to just get worse and worse. This ties into what I have been saying for a while. The vast majority of Democrats won't suddenly start voting for Republicans... they will start -just not voting-.

Can confirm. I've been a registered voter for a long time but I couldn't stand McCain/Palin and Romney so I sat out those elections. The only time I considered third party was 2016 because I couldn't decide who was the bigger joke, Clinton or Trump. I was also tired of the lack of viable candidates--neither party represents my values or bothers to govern in a way that benefits the people who employ them. That's still true obviously, but in Trump I saw someone who made an effort to curb some of the problems.

As an aside, I don't agree with Trump's stance on taking the vaccine, but I respect that he hasn't waffled from his position and that he's against mandates and vaccinating low-risk groups.

Switching topics again--my take on Abrams et. al. dipping is that they not only can see the grift is up, but they also don't want anyone digging too deep into their role in all this. Saying that Biden isn't doing enough then slinking back under the rocks and out of the limelight protects their own assets.

 

[Terrifik]

'China' releasing Covid just means someone from the states phoned China (Precedent here with Milley) and said "Release the bat-virus". China agreed because their globohomo team mates were getting their palms crossed.

Look at how the swamp pushed against Trump in everything he did. Hell, if it wasn't for the swamp and MSM, the spread would have been reduced due to travel bans and most people would be munching on hydroxochloriquine (or whatever it's called) which is a known curative for COVID. That's before his jabs would have rolled around for the elderly and vulnerable, and voila, no more (it becomes seasonal) covid by Xmas 2020.

Try not to focus on what the Chinese did, but instead look at the reaction TO China. Of course nobody was allowed to go sniffing (because it was a plan to release covid) and of course the swamp ran interference for china, because the swamp were in leagues with China.


Give people all of the money, power and influence in the world and deep down we're all still kids on a playground wanting to be the best and most popular.

"Nuh-uh! Donald's toys are not better than ours!"


Not to own drumpf, that was the pay off for the swamp. China got increasing social controls and were able to usher in even more surviellence and monitoring of their citizens who were started to get a little restless. They barred people in their homes, made a big theatre of getting to zero covid, all while clamping down on restrictions. Didn't 1.1 million chinks have to queue the other day for money or bread or whatever?

Here's a quick list of power players and what they got:

The Swamp - Trump out, their guy in
Lefty whackos like AOC - Promised to have their policies introduced (before the double-cross)
Chinks - More social control and interference ran so they didn't take the flack
The Fed - Inflation, Baby
MSM+SM - More fact checkers, more control, more surveillence more power

Secondary winners who exploited an opportunity:

Pfizer/moderna - Mega money for a vaccine that doesn't work.
Big business - Amazon, Uber eats, Mcdonalds managed to sweep up
Digital hosting services - Microsoft (Bill flipping Gates) and Amazon host 90% of the worlds media on their servers. They saw a big uptick due to the people stuck at homes with lockdowns.
Big Business - Small, Medium Enterprises shut down at record rates, allowing big business to hoover up competition for cheap, extending influence and power.

Feel free to add your own. I believe you'll see a web of interconnectivity between the elites where everyone had their back scratched to keep up with the lie.

Remember, I believe Biden fucked the whole thing up, which is what led to the disastrous exit of Afghan, supply chain shortage (china mad), power tussles in washington (members of the swamp and whackos being double-crossed). It explains a lot of what we're seeing.

Dr.facci- two adminstration being lord science
oil speculator- how to destroy a oil dependent country in less than 1 year
Green energy merchants- swith flipped back on for base green energy no nuclear energy
facebook/twitter /youtube- back normal still less wine about section 230 & DMCA questions & safe harbor- only gay fackchecker & pedo question leftover
lgbtq-more learch to slippery slope & trying to normalse Pedo
fbi/cia- null still trying for patriot act 2.0 with Jan 6th
native american group- take back of stolen land mean old goverment.

 

[Salubrious]

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German jannies mad people hating lockdowns

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the cathederal says the sign is not big enough for sites.

https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1481211728457498633

LOL. It's the same thing with Reddit and even Twitter - no matter how much they censor IT'S STILL NOT GOOD ENOUGH.

 

[Godzilla@1989]

Well done Joe! Keep fucking up as always!

Inflation rises 7% over the past year, highest since 1982

The consumer price index for December 2021 was expected to increase 7% from a year ago, according to economists surveyed by Dow Jones.

www.cnbc.com