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[LiquidKid]

I think someone in the thread said that apparently Kate Leth burned so many bridges in the process of making this show she is effectively blacklisted from animation, hence why she moved back to making comics

the same person also brought up Luke Webber as an example.
I know Luke personally, the dude is a schitzo lunatic who still to this very day wants to murder Alex Hirsch and Dana Terrace. I have heard nothing of Kate Leth, but I know Luke, his insanity, and his horrific work ethic on such a personal level that I don’t trust the words of anyone trying to use him as an example for anything

 

[starborn427614]

the same person also brought up Luke Webber as an example.
I know Luke personally, the dude is a schitzo lunatic who still to this very day wants to murder Alex Hirsch and Dana Terrace. I have heard nothing of Kate Leth, but I know Luke, his insanity, and his horrific work ethic on such a personal level that I don’t trust the words of anyone trying to use him as an example for anything

Oh that's what the whole thing reminds me of. Last I checked he was drawing hetero slash art of Pearl from SU.

 

[LiquidKid]

Oh that's what the whole thing reminds me of. Last I checked he was drawing hetero slash art of Pearl from SU

Yeah, that’s on-brand for him.
Honestly, nothing makes me shake my head more than the amount of people who believe everything said in there stupid as Ezpeasy video, which used Luke as literally the only source.
This thread is kinda like the Enter thread with a lot of assumptions and misconceptions about what animation is actually like to work in. But I’ve gone over a lot of this stuff over the years on this site, and many of those posts are years old at this point.

I just wanted to chime in after being exposed to this train wreck of a cartoon

 

[Fat Tub of Lard]

Stop using that f word.........and High Guardian Spice is okay. Its not the trash fire you cretins think it is

FAGFAGFAGFAGFAGFAGFAGFAGFAGFAGFAGFAGFAGFAGFAGFAGFAGFAGFAGFAGFAGFAGFAGFAGFAGFAGFAGFAGFAGFAGFAGFAGFAGFAGFAGFAGFAGFAGFAGFAG!!!!!

Also, yes it is.

 

[Sleazy Car Salesman]

Stop using that f word.........and High Guardian Spice is okay. Its not the trash fire you cretins think it is

Kill yourself you haggis eating sheep fucking double nigger. Your country got taken over by the English, you can have a say once you find a better culture to get dominated by. Shouldn't be surprised though since your men wear dresses.

 

[HEXbox Carousel]

Stop using that f word.........and High Guardian Spice is okay. Its not the trash fire you cretins think it is

Imagine being cucked by Englishmen lmao.

 

[Usaguu]

Not to go off-topic but I genuinely think that the animation industry/community should eventually get its own thread one of these days.

 

[Sleazy Car Salesman]

Not to go off-topic but I genuinely think that the animation industry/community should eventually get its own thread one of these days.

Go ahead and make one.

 

[LiquidKid]

Not to go off-topic but I genuinely think that the animation industry/community should eventually get its own thread one of these days.

No, it would be terrible and lack content.
Animation people lack a lot of public drama save for a few characters. And truth be told, most of the people are very against the agendas they have to work with, but the execs always get the final say.
The only reason you get things like the kickvic saga is because the dub community is mostly non-union and almost all of them are seen as outside the real industry.

Remember, these are people who made it their career to stay inside and draw the same thing over and over. Scandals happen on a much slower scale, and the ones with actual jobs are often too busy to have much of an online presence.

a thread like this works because this specific production was a shitshow from day one. Whereas something like cartoon network’s animal crossing knock off cartoon has had no info circulated whatsoever save for the leaks

 

[The Demon Pimp of Razgriz]

I just became aware of this show and truthfully I cannot believe how terrible it is. I’m around the western animation industry on a daily basis for work and never once did this come up. Meaning even the actual people who make American cartoons hate this shit.



It’s ironic you bring up Yuru Yuri because the creator Namori, a female manga artist with a long list of success, also did the character designs for another anime that came out in 2018, meaning it was in the works well before that called “Release the Spyce.” Even the name could be consider a knock off

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In fact, when someone brought up High Guardian Spice to me, I legit thought they were talking about Release the Spyce, because personally I also didn’t like it. I had no idea it was in reference to an abysmal cartoon that looked more like Infinite Train or We Bare Bears than an anime

She even has a dead parent who's the motivator for her joining the school in the first place, just like Rosemary and her mom! Oh my fucking God. I think you've cracked the code.

I’m not trying to say they stole it,

But Release the Spyce had its first trailer in March of 2018 as seen with this tweet

High Guardian Spice was announced in August 22.

Obviously I don’t think they fully stole the concept, but it’s a shocking coincidence that a well known and well established female manga creator was putting out an anime about magical girl going to a special school to be trained in combat with a heavy emphasis on spices was announced Five months before an American cartoon with heavy anime inspiration about magical girls going to a special school to be trained in combat with a heavy emphasis on spices. When some characters could be considered as having taken potential inspiration from said female manga creator’s character designs.

Release the Spyce isn't really a magical girl show though; the main characters are ninja (or kunoichi, if you want to be technical), and use ninjutsu, not magic. Also, they are spies, not super heroes.

 

[Life is Hell...]

Not to go off-topic but I genuinely think that the animation industry/community should eventually get its own thread one of these days.

Considering the way they treated Wes Archer for making a GIF of a Cop riding a Donut Motorcycle

Yeah, i think it's time we do make a thread on them

 

[LiquidKid]

Release the Spyce isn't really a magical girl show though; the main characters are ninja (or kunoichi, if you want to be technical), and use ninjutsu, not magic. Also, they are spies, not super heroes.

High guardian spice isn’t magical girl either tbh

 

[Kari Kamiya]

High guardian spice isn’t magical girl either tbh

It's more reminiscent of Winx Club than it does Little Witch Academia, of which both are magical girl series taking place at magical academies, but it doesn't have a theme going for it outside of... magical fantasy setting where everyone's named after plants. Maybe magical girl warriors, if that. Given the creators kept saying how much they were inspired by magical girl anime from their youth (Magic Knight Rayearth most likely) and put in such blatant references that are almost legally ripoffs, yet still managed to fail at even that, it's clear the series suffers from an identity crisis just like Raye herself.

 

[LiquidKid]

It's more reminiscent of Winx Club than it does Little Witch Academia, of which both are magical girl series taking place at magical academies, but it doesn't have a theme going for it outside of... magical fantasy setting where everyone's named after plants. Maybe magical girl warriors, if that. Given the creators kept saying how much they were inspired by magical girl anime from their youth (Magic Knight Rayearth most likely) and put in such blatant references that are almost legally ripoffs, yet still managed to fail at even that, it's clear the series suffers from an identity crisis just like Raye herself.

A girl with magic and a magical girl are not the same thing. The common traits of Magical girl are:
•transforms into magical form
•no powers outside of magical form
•seemingly mundane item is their catalyst for transformation
•makes a deal with an animal of some kind to get their power

Winx has most of these, Little Witch Academia and High Guardian Spice have literally none of them. Both LWA and HGS are not magical girl on any sense of the genre

 

[Peru oso donas]

Whereas something like cartoon network’s animal crossing knock off cartoon has had no info circulated whatsoever save for the leaks

I know this doesn't have anything to do with the Thread's subject but is there any context about this?

 

[Herty]

>Even art hoes in the internet do a better job then your "professional" Crunchyroll team

Some companies really like to just burn money

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=OLOrFBIe0EA

 

[Vyse Inglebard]

>Even art hoes in the internet do a better job then your "professional" Crunchyroll team

Some companies really like to just burn money

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=OLOrFBIe0EA

Whoever decided than only girls could have feelings? It's stupid misconceptions like that that make guys terrified to actually open up. We have no other choice, then, but to internalize our feelings until we get so conflicted and depressed that we see no other option but to throw ourselves off a FUCKING CLIFF!

Instead of Sage being patronizingly sexist and acting holier-than-thou because “Baka men can’t understand women!”, her sexism is accidental and more based on trying to be “considerate” of the expectations on how men and women process their emotions. It’s a well-intentioned offense that leads naturally into her character growth, and it makes Snapdragon’s crush on her that much more believable. Plus this type of personality suits her and makes her way more endearing than her OG hostile, bitchy personality. I’m sick of this trend in media where female protagonists are written to be horribly behaved and we’re supposed to praise it as “empowering”. Kindness isn’t a weakness.

 

[Kari Kamiya]

A girl with magic and a magical girl are not the same thing. The common traits of Magical girl are:
•transforms into magical form
•no powers outside of magical form
•seemingly mundane item is their catalyst for transformation
•makes a deal with an animal of some kind to get their power

Winx has most of these, Little Witch Academia and High Guardian Spice have literally none of them. Both LWA and HGS are not magical girl on any sense of the genre

LWA is a magical girl series the same way Sally the Witch is a magical girl series. Magical girl witches (majokko) are a subset of mahou shoujo in which the girl has magic powers, whether given to her by an outside power, or she hones them naturally, and it's not a background detail. Transformations are a key component, yes, but it might not always be the main sign of a magical girl. Magic Knight Rayearth is a magical girl series despite only one instance of a transformation sequence in the very beginning then never again, but it counts because the girls' magic grow over time and they're magical warriors, the isekai-half of normal girls learning magic notwithstanding. LWA has magic existing in the world's direct setting (so it's not like Winx Club where Bloom had to leave Earth to learn magic), but not everyone hones magic.

HGS was marketed as a magical girl series by the production team especially in its influences, it just fails miserably at it, which is the most baffling part about it because magical girls are hard to fuck up.

 

[UnsufficentBoobage]

magical girls are hard to fuck up

Was not there a genre crisis because every single new series turned out to be "dark" and "subversive" angstgorny trash?

 

[Kari Kamiya]

Was not there a genre crisis because every single new series turned out to be "dark" and "subversive" angstgorny trash?

There was, but they were still undeniably magical girl series despite all that ow-the-edge in attempt to one-up Madoka Magica. (Shamanic Princess would like to have a word with you, Urobuchi.)