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Was not there a genre crisis because every single new series turned out to be "dark" and "subversive" angstgorny trash?
It really had more to do with the fact that every series that wasn't aimed at little girls (and that subset of Magical Girl shows was dominated by the likes of long running, established series, such as the Precure franchise), and therefore aimed at adult men (the other main audience for these types of shows) was basically caught in the shadow of Madoka Magica. A lot of younger anime fans underestimate just how much of genre shaker that was when it came out, pretty much on the same level as Sailor Moon. So you had a rise in stuff that subverted and deconstructed the genre because that was suddenly "in": Magical Girl Raising Project, Magical Girl Site and Magical Girl Apocalypse (which are both by the same author), Magical Girl Spec-Ops Asuka, and Looking Up To Magical Girls (aka Mahou Shoujo ni Akogarete) are some more prominent examples of these so called Magical Girl Genre Deconstructions, and are examples of how the genre has evolved to respond to Madoka's popularity. And this is not even getting into the hentai produced of the genre, like Mahou Shoujo Ai and its sequel....

(Shamanic Princess would like to have a word with you, Urobuchi.)
While Shamanic Princess is a dark magical girl show, it isn't a deconstruction of the genre like Madoka is, which was specifically trying to play with genre conventions and twist them into something horrifying.
 
I know this doesn't have anything to do with the Thread's subject but is there any context about this?
Very little is publicly known other than it’s by a Steven universe storyboard artist, it was once a 40 page webcomic, and it’s likely to be formally announced this year.

It’s called BustleTown. An anon on 4chan leaked it last year. In a somewhat related note, the webcomic showed that the squirrel thing is also a magical girl

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Very little is publicly known other than it’s by a Steven universe storyboard artist, it was once a 40 page webcomic, and it’s likely to be formally announced this year.

It’s called BustleTown. An anon on 4chan leaked it last year. In a somewhat related note, the webcomic showed that the squirrel thing is also a magical girl

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Meh, that's actually a bit of an improvement over HGS.
 
@The Demon Pimp of Razgriz The magical girl genre always had a "dark as fuck" side to it from almost since the genre's creation. Making deconstructions of the genre nearly impossible cause all you're is flipping onto it's other side. Much
like flipping a coin.
All Madoka is Urobuchi being an edgelord who haven't done any research.
Not to sound like one of those fags who're like "CLEARLY YOU HAVEN'T WATCHED THE SHOW" but Madoka Magica (at least in my opinion) is less a show about being edgy and more like a sorta look into how despair would affect someone. I can admit that it has flaws (See the movies with the exception of Rebellion and the new one coming soon), but it genuinely is a good show if you have free time.

And saying that Urobuchi "didn't do ant research" is really doing a disservice, because the Witches are some of the most intricately designed and interesting parts of thr whole series for me. I'll stop myself from sucking the show's dick now, I just wanted to bring up some stuff.

By all means it isn't deep, I'd argue there are much better anime out there with similar themes, but it's a fun show for what it is.
 
Madoka Magica had its clever moments that makes you thunkful about what life as a magical girl would really be like, but Urobuchi likes the smell of his own farts, and it still showed. Not to the extent it was with Psycho-Pass and Fate/Zero, but it was still a frustrating watch by the end of the story with Rebellion, though in my case, it was because Madoka was so fucking wishy-washy that I stopped caring about her by the end, and Homura's obsession with her was just wrong on so many levels yet people worship their relationship like wtf. I'd do a rewatch as it's been several years at this point, but the Witch's Labyrinths gave me motion sickness something fierce and having eyeballs throwing up isn't how one's supposed to watch anything.
 
HGS was marketed as a magical girl series by the production team especially in its influences, it just fails miserably at it, which is the most baffling part about it because magical girls are hard to fuck up.
You're forgetting its made by westerners who want to fix and "modernize" the magical girl genre when their only knowledge of the genre is vague memories of watching the old English dubs of Sailor Moon and Cardcaptor Sakura as a child. Its the same shit when Magical Girl Friendship Squad aired, the creator said she wanted to modernize the magical girl genre even though she would also say her main inspiration was American adult animated shows and wanted to make one but with women.
 
You're forgetting its made by westerners who want to fix and "modernize" the magical girl genre when their only knowledge of the genre is vague memories of watching the old English dubs of Sailor Moon and Cardcaptor Sakura as a child. Its the same shit when Magical Girl Friendship Squad aired, the creator said she wanted to modernize the magical girl genre even though she would also say her main inspiration was American adult animated shows and wanted to make one but with women.
>Magical Girl Friendship Squad
Fuck you, I wanted to forget that one. :(
 
Very little is publicly known other than it’s by a Steven universe storyboard artist, it was once a 40 page webcomic, and it’s likely to be formally announced this year.

It’s called BustleTown. An anon on 4chan leaked it last year. In a somewhat related note, the webcomic showed that the squirrel thing is also a magical girl

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This looks like a fucking preschool show. Who's gonna watch this? (And yes, I know that ACTUAL preschool shows like Bluey have a baffling adult audience.)
I guess CN weren't kidding when they said they wanted to focus on that demographic.

ps. Do you have a link to the thread? I want to know what /co/ thinks.

Shippers are not human, they are slime. Of all the subhuman filth known as shippers yuri and yaoi shippers are the worst.
Does it count if you ship a character with yourself? My friend does that and I hear it's really cool and based.
 
This looks like a fucking preschool show. Who's gonna watch this? (And yes, I know that ACTUAL preschool shows like Bluey have a baffling adult audience.)
I guess CN weren't kidding when they said they wanted to focus on that demographic.

ps. Do you have a link to the thread? I want to know what /co/ thinks.


Does it count if you ship a character with yourself? My friend does that and I hear it's really cool and based.
I have not seen it archived, but there was a mild mix of the typical creepy fan art as well as trying to guess who would be the one people drew the most porn of. Other than a few “this looks cute, I’d watch it” posts, it was mostly ignored
 
Not to sound like one of those fags who're like "CLEARLY YOU HAVEN'T WATCHED THE SHOW" but Madoka Magica (at least in my opinion) is less a show about being edgy and more like a sorta look into how despair would affect someone.
Yup all Urobuchi done is reinventing the same wheel that's been part of the magical girl genre since at least the 70ies.
 
Homura's obsession with her was just wrong on so many levels yet people worship their relationship like wtf.
The thing is, we're SUPPOSED to acknowledge that their relationship is unhealthy. Some people just failed to get the memo.

Also, back on HGS, this scene in particular:
encapsulates everything that is wrong with HGS.

To quote a comment from the person who posted the video:
Exactly what annoys me so much. Not only is it a bad real-life insert, They don't even do anything interesting with the fact that it's just a political metaphor. They just say "Old stuff bad, new stuff good" it's so pathetically 1-dimensional.
Which is how I would describe this whole show: pathetically one dimensional. As pathetically one dimensional as the show runner's politics. The metaphor they are going for doesn't even work because its heavily implied that new magic is what's corrupting the world later on in the series. so how is the metaphor supposed to be taken again? That comment I quoted was a response to this spot on comment:
She was raised on 'old magic', so maybe she feels right using it. They don't explain WHY Sage has to learn 'new magic'. They just tell her that she should just do it. They never ask her what her personal viewpoint on the matter is, or whether she wants to learn it because she wants to or because she feels pressure to do so because she gets bullied for using 'old magic'. They just cast aspersions on Sage's mother out of nowhere and we're just supposed to take that as them being in the right. What a load of shit.
This entire sequence is very similar to the "Snapdragon being groomed" scene, in that the adults feel like they're pushing their values on the kids rather than actually helping them with their actual problem. Made even worse by them basically bad mouthing Sage's mom and calling her a hypocrite. And why is she a hypocrite? Because she tried new magic once, so now she must always like new magic because they say so? As one comment puts it:
You know the saying "don't knock it till you tried it"?
Her mom tried it
She didn't like it
She knocked it

She's not a hypocrite. She speaking from her own experience.
And like another comment points out, calling her mom a hypocrite is like saying a recovering drug addict is a hypocrite because their trying to steer their children away from drugs.


@The Demon Pimp of Razgriz The magical girl genre always had a "dark as fuck" side to it from almost since the genre's creation. Making deconstructions of the genre nearly impossible cause all you're is flipping onto it's other side. Much
like flipping a coin.
All Madoka is Urobuchi being an edgelord who haven't done any research.
A lot of magical girl shows had darker sides, yes. Even the most cutesy and traditional of magical girl shows had darker moments: Sailor Moon, Precure, and even Magical Princess Minky Momo had dark themes at certain parts, but that doesn't make them deconstructions. They were still playing the tropes of the genre completely straight otherwise.
 
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A lot of magical girl shows had darker sides, yes. Even the most cutesy and traditional of magical girl shows had darker moments: Sailor Moon, Precure, and even Magical Princess Minky Momo had dark themes at certain parts, but that doesn't make them deconstructions. They were still playing the tropes of the genre completely straight otherwise.
Madoka is failed at deconstructing when it still followed the same beats as every other entry in the genre but with 110% more edge. Especially coming after Magical Witch Punie-chan which done the magical girl parody slash deconstruction years earlier.
 
Is it time to shit on Urobuchi again? Because good God, I fucking hate people who worship him like some genius. The man is a pretentious writer, lots of Japanese creators tend to be like that because they're terminally online and love to smell their own farts. You know how a lot of western creators these days tend to be preachy about something? Lots of Japanese creators are like that, but they're more autistic because their POV are just ridiculously childish sometimes

Sadly, however, some people didn't know and only thought of them as cool. Perhaps it was these preachy Japanese works themselves that also influenced the west to do the same nowadays (the timing also matches, I think)
 
High guardian spice isn’t magical girl either tbh
Well it'd have to be an anime to be a magical girl anime wouldn't it? 🚬
If there's magic and lots of girls in it, it's a magical girl show. That's all that's needed to be categorized. Anything else like themes and shit is just splitting hairs.

Very little is publicly known other than it’s by a Steven universe storyboard artist, it was once a 40 page webcomic, and it’s likely to be formally announced this year.

It’s called BustleTown. An anon on 4chan leaked it last year. In a somewhat related note, the webcomic showed that the squirrel thing is also a magical girl

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Oh no. They gave Frank and Becky a show?!?

Frank and Becky are a writer/artist duo who started in comics and needless to say it's no wonder they pivoted to animation. Tiny Kitten Teeth was praised for its vintage artstyle but the story was all over the place. Boom's Capture Creatures was their second attempt by being a pokemon ripoff but couldn't do anything good with the world it was set in. And now there's this thing being written by the same hack. But luckily designed by the same artist.

The bitch can paint.
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Becky isn't a storyboarder. She's a designer who worked on SU, Star Vs. and the pilot Cupcakery of Doom (I thought it wasn't bad but nickelodeon rejected it).

If there's other writers around to put diamonds on Frank's shitty scripts then this won't be too bad. Otherwise Bustletown will be another Bee & Puppycat: all sugar and no substance.
 
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