Philosophy Tube / Oliver Lennard / Oliver "Olly" Thorn / Abigail Thorn - Breadtube's Patrick Bateman.

[Shotgun Badger]

One of my favorite recurring subplots was Violet and her cross-dressing tax attorney husband.

Sounds like a lesbian to me!
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Man attracted to two women?! Impossible!

 

[PennyAni]

This octoroon is coping with having a schizophrenic ethnic background by pretending to be married to a troon who larps as a devout sand nigger and brags about cucking his ass. Truly remarkable. Oliver keeps tremendous company.

So....ok so Alice is a gay or pansexual man insisting that he's a lesbian because words mean whatever he wants them to mean? Why really tho? Because it "owns the wiminz" and pisses them off, maybe?

I'm sure as usual everyone else figured this out days weeks or months ago. But damn, what a shit human being.

 

[EdiblePanties]

The more I see of Alice the more I think he needs his own thread. Just a vile person.

 

[PennyAni]

Of course, Ollie's parents could have told him that, but this isn't something he'd listen to. He might have a point about waiting times breaching the NHS Constitution, but he's not complaining about that, he wants nobody to question a trans person demanding hormones and surgery RIGHT NOW.

RIGHT NOW and also free. As an American this part of the whole performance is the wildest. "We want x, y and z. We them beyond immediately and it must all be completely free."

Wow lol....Ok!

 

[esmeggs]

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Misogynistic freaks. Olly is delighting in the thought of winning awards that should go to women, as if he's even talented enough to do so.

The more I see of Alice the more I think he needs his own thread. Just a vile person.

This comes up again and again but just try going through that man's Twitter account, it's unbearable. I was really impressed fax machine was able to go through as much as she did.

Is there an actual difference between being bisexual and being a GAMP? I just think of the latter of being a specific variant of bisexuality, you absolutely cannot convince me that a man can suck dick and be straight.

It's definitely iffier to me than "pseudo-bisexuality" in AGPs, in which AGP men aren't actually attracted to the men they're sleeping with but instead are just aroused by how sleeping with men makes them feel like a "woman". Research seems to indicate that GAMPs are most similar to heterosexual men and autogynephiles in what arouses them, and there is a significant overlap between AGP and GAMP.


I wouldn't consider it bisexuality just because I don't think most GAMP men would be sucking dick if they hadn't rotted their brains through porn.

 

[LeChampion1992]

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Misogynistic freaks. Olly is delighting in the thought of winning awards that should go to women, as if he's even talented enough to do so.

This comes up again and again but just try going through that man's Twitter account, it's unbearable. I was really impressed fax machine was able to go through as much as she did.

It's definitely iffier to me than "pseudo-bisexuality" in AGPs, in which AGP men aren't actually attracted to the men they're sleeping with but instead are just aroused by how sleeping with men makes them feel like a "woman". Research seems to indicate that GAMPs are most similar to heterosexual men and autogynephiles in what arouses them, and there is a significant overlap between AGP and GAMP.
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I wouldn't consider it bisexuality just because I don't think most GAMP men would be sucking dick if they hadn't rotted their brains through porn.

I mean this guy is a prime example of a real beta cuck. Now to see them turn troon and become some retard makes me think that they're getting paid to shill for trooning out people.

 

[behindyourightnow]

Unfortunately for the average western person they fear trannies because they know that if someone dares misgender the poor troons you will get cancelled for your bigoted transphobia.

I know, but in practice that just leads to people avoiding them, since they're scared of stepping on their toes and getting in trouble. After a tranny yells at them about pronouns or misgendering, most people don't turn into TERFS (unfortunately); they just quietly disengage from that person and go about their own lives.

That's what I meant, it's amusing to me that even in circles where you can't say a single word of criticism related to trans issues lest your life be destroyed, most people still don't want to be around most of the trans people they are acquainted with. And the more the propaganda is pushed, the less anyone wants to be around them, because it just means you're more likely to get called a transphobe if you push back against any of their narc behavior.

None of them seem to grasp how much this shit is screwing your average troon in the long term: who would want to hire a trans person in this environment, or start a project with one?

 

[scathefire]

He did speak out about the BBC when the lesbians article was first posted
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He makes a point to mention having a friend who works at the BBC (this is not anything to brag about, I've said before that you'll trip over BBC employees if you hang out in Fitzrovia) and was also very poorly informed as Ben Hunte, the LGBT correspondent that interviewed him when he came out, only took a temporary break to do a stint as West Africa correspondent and the role was temporarily covered by now-Brussels correspondent Jessica Parker (a lesbian).

But yep, he's keeping his weirdly small lips tightly pursed now. I think Ollie is hoping for a cushy consultancy with the BBC about trans rights (not happening now they've dumped Stonewall), or possibly some position as a transgender talking head. That or Trans Activism UK (who organised this one, unlike Transgender Action Block that did the NHS protest or London Trans Pride) wouldn't let him do a speech so he didn't go as it didn't benefit him.

That article was so tame too, it literally says that some lesbians are being pressured by some trans women, but it was still viciously attacked by Olly and co. because saying that such a thing happens ever is pure heresy.

 

[AssignedEva]

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Misogynistic freaks. Olly is delighting in the thought of winning awards that should go to women, as if he's even talented enough to do so.

This comes up again and again but just try going through that man's Twitter account, it's unbearable. I was really impressed fax machine was able to go through as much as she did.

It's definitely iffier to me than "pseudo-bisexuality" in AGPs, in which AGP men aren't actually attracted to the men they're sleeping with but instead are just aroused by how sleeping with men makes them feel like a "woman". Research seems to indicate that GAMPs are most similar to heterosexual men and autogynephiles in what arouses them, and there is a significant overlap between AGP and GAMP.
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I wouldn't consider it bisexuality just because I don't think most GAMP men would be sucking dick if they hadn't rotted their brains through porn.

Yep I'd say it's more akin to an extreme paraphilia. Furries don't care about who's inside the fursuit (they're just getting off on the fursuit), paedophiles and opportunistic predators often don't tend to care about who they're raping (they just like the power over vulnerable people), shoe fetishists don't care who's wearing the shoe or even if anyone is wearing the shoe (they just fetishise the shoe) and so likewise the AGPs often only care about "me-as-a-woman" and their sexual partners are irrelevant other than as a means to further this self image (hence why they go for straight men and lesbians, and don't care about gay men or bisexuals).

GAMPs are split between proto-AGPs (attracted to their self image reflected in others) and bisexuals with an open mind. Ollie is the former than the latter, given he transitioned and has discarded his prior identification as bisexual (and seemingly never banged any blokes).

I know, but in practice that just leads to people avoiding them, since they're scared of stepping on their toes and getting in trouble. After a tranny yells at them about pronouns or misgendering, most people don't turn into TERFS (unfortunately); they just quietly disengage from that person and go about their own lives.

That's what I meant, it's amusing to me that even in circles where you can't say a single word of criticism related to trans issues lest your life be destroyed, most people still don't want to be around most of the trans people they are acquainted with. And the more the propaganda is pushed, the less anyone wants to be around them, because it just means you're more likely to get called a transphobe if you push back against any of their narc behavior.

None of them seem to grasp how much this shit is screwing your average troon in the long term: who would want to hire a trans person in this environment, or start a project with one?

The most entertaining version of this is when [minority] complain they don't get as much social media engagement as [majority]. In some circumstances (e.g. race) there is something to be said for that, but often it's just ugly people complaining they're not treated the same as beautiful people - a beautiful black woman not being found beautiful can be the result of social conditioning, but it's usually not them complaining.

An ugly genderblob complaining about cisnormative beauty standards? Sorry mate, you can force people to be polite to you, but you can't force people to like you.

That article was so tame too, it literally says that some lesbians are being pressured by some trans women, but it was still viciously attacked by Olly and co. because saying that such a thing happens ever is pure heresy.

There's a hilarious disparity in the response.

People are claiming "literally nobody ever says this". But they're often the same people saying that not wanting to have sex with trans people or having "genital preferences" is indicative of deeply rooted transphobia - and unless they're saying that this sort of transphobia is ok, then they're inherently saying you're bad if you don't try to "change" this, and are therefore the same people that this article talks about.

I don't think Ollie has commented on that specific topic all that much, but if you would like a more detailed discussion please refer to the "I am Jazz" thread. Jazz's brother Sander is currently experiencing extreme pressure to suck ladydick, with his reticence towards fellating a penis being framed as a "learning experience" as it undermines his assertion that TWAW.

 

[Shotgun Badger]

Imagining some pervert pulling out his dick in a women's changing room and offering everybody there a 'learning experience'.

 

[m1ddl3m4rch]

I recommend reading the Girl Fixer possession in Hostage to the Devil by the late Father Malachi Martin. This reminded me of ContraPoints or PhilosophyTube, especially the laughter part. Anyway the account goes that as a young man Richard went hiking in the woods as he usually did, and while he was enjoying the beauty of nature, he could sense the presence of something like a nature spirit. He reached out to it, invited it in and became possessed.
The Girl Fixer spirit had him believing he was neither male nor female, but both, or neither. He identified as a woman, Rita, and had some variance between his two gendered selves, and also the spirits that had come to inhabit him. I remember rrsding that during the exorcism the spirit is gleeful at the prospect of carving and mutilating people, and it describes how it loves 'fixing' boys into girls.

Spoiler

 

[Freesia]

(and seemingly never banged any blokes).

He did bang contrapoints.

 

[Puddleduck]

January is nearly half over, is the any news on what surgery he's getting? Or not getting, of that's the case?

(Btw rate me autistic but I don't really think Contra is botched?)

 

[esmeggs]

I so badly want this to be true:

Seems like I was right about him cheating, I wonder if Nyk was the blonde american "woman" in question.

Might check out the podcast episode later to confirm if it's true.

Are any of u guys on tttt or is this a whole separate group of ppl that hate chubie???

I think it's mostly separate but idk I very rarely check it out anymore.
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[narcissistic injury]

 

[AfghanBlue]

(Btw rate me autistic but I don't really think Contra is botched?)

same. i think contra looks a bit samey which is a shame to rob a face of its character, but that’s plastic surgery tbh; and also if u wanna feminise a male face you gonna have to do something i suppose.

i don’t really think so someone should overly change their face but it’s very much not my business at all, and i certainly don’t see where all the ‘botched’ shit is coming from, apart from spurting forth from hate boners.

contra had more refined features initially, as well as much much less of a massive meat heed like Chube, so will lend better to FFS than he will.

but i am part of the oft bashed section of s who think Contra ain’t really done anything wrong unlike malignant narcissist Chube.
so i can’t empathise with the hate of that particular person that would lend to me being able to view it as botched.
i honestly think loads of ppl on KF go miles overboard about the aesthetics of stuff/ even some rare amholes which *look* ok get slated.

we know they likely won’t function fine, but when you start calling everything hideous when it’s fine visually it just looks hyperbolic, incel tier hysterical and obsessed and robs validity from everything else said here . Not to mention i’d love to see what our adonis farmers look like in comparison to those whomstststs faces they “mathematically” deconstruct as incontrovertibly hideous.

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go on then jannies, fuckin mute me for 6 hours or some shit again for double posting, whatever BUT_-

is that 'super cereal' screen cap recent?
there's a date under that says 2014 BUT that could be a shared picture form that date- so idk.
if it is recent is lame cos its another Contraism (obv yes its south park, but only recently, and relevantly conceptually necro'd by Contra) .

also @esmeggs LOL was it you who knew a few people who attended that NHS Dec protest? (I alwasy get you and assigned Eva mixed up for whatever reason, sorry)
But whoever it was, says they were chatting not long after it and some people were slating tube for being a cunt about "some (unspecified, and not pried into) thing to do with the microphone''
LOL. I guess this is what it was ? what a fucking tool.

Spoiler: time trial tick tock

I wish i knew my way about the chans better.
In answer to @narcissistic injury - I am, at least, not on /ttttt/- i wanted to put my gross horse piss MS paint offer on, and nearly managed it, but my local IP is banned because of 'abuse in the region'.
How big a 'region' that is, i have no clue, but it was annoying, especially after wading through their captcha process which is hard if you're a particularly exceptionally exceptional individual like me .

I just wanted more eyes on my Chube horse piss pic.
it's not topical now, smh

Also cos i'm not chronically online, most of the time when i go to look at something its already deleted, and for the same reason, i find reading soooo much text to find brief things I care about, a pain- its also the reason why its only recently i bothered singing up here- like TT Exclu said in a recent stream when asked 'has she checked out kiwi farms' (IE when sepai noticed us <3) "not really; there was a lot of very long thread- i just want one kiwi fruit, i dont wanna have to pick the whole farm''

 

[narcissistic injury]

go on then jannies, fuckin mute me for 6 hours or some shit again for double posting, whatever BUT_-

is that 'super cereal' screen cap recent?
there's a date under that says 2014 BUT that could be a shared picture form that date- so idk.
if it is recent is lame cos its another Contraism (obv yes its south park, but only recently, and relevantly conceptually necro'd by Contra) .

also @esmeggs LOL was it you who knew a few people who attended that NHS Dec protest? (I alwasy get you and assigned Eva mixed up for whatever reason, sorry)
But whoever it was, says they were chatting not long after it and some people were slating tube for being a cunt about "some (unspecified, and not pried into) thing to do with the microphone''
LOL. I guess this is what it was ? what a fucking tool.

Spoiler: time trial tick tock

I wish i knew my way about the chans better.
In answer to @narcissistic injury - I am, at least, not on /ttttt/- i wanted to put my gross horse piss MS paint offer on, and nearly managed it, but my local IP is banned because of 'abuse in the region'.
How big a 'region' that is, i have no clue, but it was annoying, especially after wading through their captcha process which is hard if you're a particularly exceptionally exceptional individual like me .

I just wanted more eyes on my Chube horse piss pic.
it's not topical now, smh

Also cos i'm not chronically online, most of the time when i go to look at something its already deleted, and for the same reason, i find reading soooo much text to find brief things I care about, a pain- its also the reason why its only recently i bothered singing up here- like TT Exclu said in a recent stream when asked 'has she checked out kiwi farms' (IE when sepai noticed us <3) "not really; there was a lot of very long thread- i just want one kiwi fruit, i dont wanna have to pick the whole farm''

No it’s old! Sometimes I comb thru old chube stuff to unwind


I barely understand how to navigate 4chan. I ask because two separate congregates of chube haters just absolutely tickles me

Seeing ppl (fans..) giving money to this psycho fuck makes me so angry! It’s reassuring to see ppl hate him and notice the sociopathy

Like… I can’t even imagine if this was some rich twat that I personally knew. Where are his childhood homies?!? Why is no one (who knows him IRL pre chube phase) outing this fat fuck as a rich coddled serial liar?!? It boggles my mind

The fact that a son of two physicians was panhandling on youchube for “rent money” in those old vids drives me insane!!!!!!!! It’s soooooo shameful I cannot wrap my mind around the disparity between his upbringing and his (somehow successful!) e-begging.

Rent money!!!!

(Let’s be real he used it to pad his daily menus… adding hobbit style extra meals… second breakfast, elevensies, etc etc )



ABIGAIL THORN’S PARENTS ARE DOCTORS AND SHE DOES NOT NEED HANDOUTS FROM GULLIBLE TWEENS PASS IT ON

 

[Schatzi Katze]

oh boy I can't wait for the "woe is me transphobic American surgeons gave me facial nerve damage" Philtube arc

 

[A Dark Day Indeed]

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Good find, honestly. Before I saw this I had constructed a narrative where Ollie was somewhat more tolerable pre-troonout. Your garden-variety narc theatre kid, but nothing as shamelessly malignant as Abigail.
"Calling me a white knight is rape apologia". Incredible. Clearly I have some biases to examine.

Where are his childhood homies?!?

My all-time favourite Chube tweet:

"I am proud of my disabled son and the progress he is making."
" T̛̘̰̤͖̖̰h̴͇̜̬̩̖e̛̠̹̦͚ ͈b̮o̞͇͉̯̟̫̱y̸͇̝̟̥̟͔ ͍̱̫͇̥y̫̝o̸̙̗̻̩̯̹̗u̻ ̴̮̺̮o̖̮͔n̖̕c̻̤̞͇e̱͉̺͕̙̱̘ ̨͙̫ͅk̪̘̥̭͔̳n̙͕̺̬̝͢e̟̠͕w̮͚ ͕̥̲̦i̖̳͠s͝ ͉͔͎d͕͖ea̯͇͔͖d̟͍͔̜̟̼͓.̰ ̪̩̗͕̣͖̣I͉̖ a̗̲͖m̞̟ ͓̻̱͈̻̦t̵͈̹̼̭̻h̩͉̩̜͎ẹ̸̤̜̤̮͈ ̰̥̲͜en͍͈̩̣̣̱̗t͍̯̳͈i̢͉͔̹͇̰̣̘t͔̼͉͍̖̕y͕̣͕̜̖ ͕͡in̦̪̞̦̟̬̜h͏̲̙̯͓ab̢̹͚͈̺̣̬i̹̞̹t̸i̹̯̻͔͍̯̗n͕̫̹̥͚̻̥g͍̺̘̰̩̹̰ ̥̞his͕͇ ̳̪̠ͅb͙͉̬͕͍o̬̳̲͎ḏ̴y͎̫̲.̕ "

 

[Cr1ms0n_&_C10v3r]

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Oh my god, I can't wait. The Neovagina Monologues.