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I think the Europeans will vote to stop population replacement because they aren't as diverse as Americas
Lolno. Stay where you are.
Source: Am European, have been all over.
The biggest flaw in your argument is that AoC is already 14 and 15 in parts of Europe TODAY.
And if a 30+ year old bangs a 16 year old (AoC where I am currently at) here, he's considered a pedophile by pretty much everyone who catches wind of it.
Yes, it's legal, but in practicality it's largely so that people in the 15-19 range can get their jollies on unmolested (hehe) by the law.
Case in point: I knew a banker who, in his early 40s, only had "girlfriends" who were broken goth 16-19 year olds raised by single moms. He'd start hanging around them even earlier. But even these teens broke up with him after a short while (because he's a loser and predator).
10 years later now, I still feel it'd be fine if someone broke his legs and I dare say, that's a pretty standard thought in Europe. It's technically legal, but everyone will look down on you as a pedo, so societal stigma is a strong deterrent.
This is how quite a few issues are treated - it's not criminalized, but you'll be shunned and abhorred, which suffices to keep (most) people from engaging in that sort of behavior. It's how the catholics used to keep abortions low, when they still held some sway (thank fuck that's over).

A lot of legal philosophy here stems from Kant's kategorical imperative - which is very focused on equality before the law and not having an innocent person punished (as in, rather 100 criminals go free than 1 innocent hang), which tends to favor more lenient guidelines. Works fine if there's somewhat strong societal cohesion around shared values.

I realize you have somehow gone off the rails enough to only think in absolutes, but the imbalance in development that comes with a significant age gap matters to most.
 
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. . . It's exploded to almost 600 because of AoC.
No, it's gotten to where it is because you keep doing this:

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He's by no means a casanova, but if he got his head straight for one second and learned to smile for his photos, I'm certain he could find a nice OF LEGAL AGE girl. Especially in gay-ass California, where I'd think being a Hispanic in a suit would be a boon to his dating life. And he ain't even fat! What the fuck!

Boxy fails, even though he has those advantages. He's also the Jewish master race, yet has nothing but a fat nose to show for it. His lust for children and retarded sperging are too much.
 
IMO it's much easier to convince people to lower AoC to high school range vs build an ethnostate. There is much more sympathy for the former vs the latter.
What?

I can guarantee you that more people in the US identify as white nationalists or black nationalists than want to "lower the age of consent to high school range".
It doesn't seem like there are many zoomers, especially ones who are too young to drink, on here.
You thought wrong.
I'm a zoomer and old enough to drink in my country.
 
Lolno. Stay where you are.
Source: Am European, have been all over.

And if a 30+ year old bangs a 16 year old (AoC where I am currently at) here, he's considered a pedophile by pretty much everyone who catches wind of it.
Yes, it's legal, but in practicality it's largely so that people in the 15-19 range can get their jollies on unmolested (hehe) by the law.
Case in point: I knew a banker who, in his early 40s, only had "girlfriends" who were broken goth 16-19 year olds raised by single moms. He'd start hanging around them even earlier. But even these teens broke up with him after a short while (because he's a loser and predator).
10 years later now, I still feel it'd be fine if someone broke his legs and I dare say, that's a pretty standard thought in Europe. It's technically legal, but everyone will look down on you as a pedo, so societal stigma is a strong deterrent.
This is how quite a few issues are treated - it's not criminalized, but you'll be shunned and abhorred, which suffices to keep (most) people from engaging in that sort of behavior. It's how the catholics used to keep abortions low, when they still held some sway (thank fuck that's over).

A lot of legal philosophy here stems from Kant's kategorical imperative - which is very focused on equality before the law and not having an innocent person punished (as in, rather 100 criminals go free than 1 innocent hang), which tends to favor more lenient guidelines. Works fine if there's somewhat strong societal cohesion around shared values.

I realize you have somehow gone off the rails enough to only think in absolutes, but the imbalance in development that comes with a significant age gap matters to most.
So what you are saying is...Europe is cucked by feminism AoC laws ideology, even though it is completely legal?

:stress: What are we going to do now without Europe!?!
 
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So, the accepted dox is that @BoxerShorts47 is "James Garcia", a filipino, because a twitter account uses the same username.

Meanwhile, Boxxy hasn't slowed down his posting despite therefore having his name directly linked to his pedophilia and white supremacy. Odd.

I may be wrong with this, though I doubt it

But I propose that Boxershorts47 is actually Emil Roytapel

For starters, Boxxy was nice enough to post screenshots with a pfp in it:

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close up:
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So, let's reverse search that pfp, shall we?
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"Emil Roytapel"

Surely that isn't him? Reverse search sucks, after all!

Well, let's look up this "Emil Roytapel" and what kind of stuff they post, yes?

Oooh look, Emil is a white nationalist!
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AND a pedo!?
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Also interested in kiwifarms adjacent people?
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AND types and argues like our Boxxy aswel!?
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And if that wasn't enough, wasn't our Boxxy interested in cars and working on them?
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Also, apparantly Boxershorts studied business? Emil studied at the department of entrepeneurship:
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Okay, well, maybe Emil Roytapel is a fake name and stolen pic that Boxxy uses???

Nope, that's a real person:
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There's only 2 Emil Roytapels, and the other one is old and dead. Plus he has the same person in his pfp on multiple sites.

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Well, my fellow farmers of the kiwi, I propose Boxershorts is not James Garcia, the Filipino pants fetishist, but actually Emil Roytapel of California.

Thoughts?

We know Boxxy's family are eastern euros who moved to the USA, Boxxy is supposed to be around 30, a pedo, a white supremacist, a 4chan user, studied business AND is into cars - and ALL of that checks out with this guy, Emil Roytapel

Name: Emil V. Roytapel
DOB: 5/4/1990
Address:
125 Alienta Ln
Rancho Mission Viejo, CA 92694
Phone: (213) 537-7745
Email: jj8***@gmail.com, eroy****@yahoo.com


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He got sued lmao

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Orthodox stuff, more proof he's eastern euro

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4chan user, like boxershorts

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Seems some things never change :)
You fucking Kang 👑

Then let this thread die.
The reason it's almost 600 pages is because you know that in your hearts I haven't lost the debate and you keep coming back to hear the same repetitive talking points.
I've been here long enough to see that you're all virtue signaling to each other for social approval rather than address real social issues.
“Was it your plan to get caught?”

If we were in Europe then my views on Age of Consent would be mostly normal
then maybe you should go back to Russia.

Really, you have broken down that your down this (((white))) nationalist path because of you can’t climb up the corporate ladder because you’re white and because of hiring quotas and the like. Just go back to Russia, it’s very white and you will have a desirable skill of English and shitposting.

Emil real 100% question: what is it with the far right people and the age of consent? Every single one of you fags seem to end up going into AoC spirals.
You fags are so obsessed with it that I swear that if any of you were to rise to power your first call to action would be to remove age of consent (or lower it).

I don’t think Hitlers first day in office was “Hanz, get me ze age of consent laws and ze hawtest 12 year olds you know…”
 
JFC if I see a 32 year old with a 13 year old, my first thought is "that's his daughter." I keep trending towards being nice to this Gypsy because I like schizos, then he reminds us all he wants to fuck a 7th grader.

Box doesn't like this

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And would prefer this

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But couldn't even get this

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What more can I say?
 
@Syntaxion, is there any info on Momma Box? What is she doing to support our Not-White Lord and Savior?
The only relatives I could find:

Vladislav Emilyevich Roytapel;

the dog trainer mentioned before, due to age I'm assuming his uncle.

Vladlen Roytapel;

Succesful realtor in southern Cali, can be confirmed part of the family because of his linkedin and facebook friends.


His brother, probably? He's 29yo

Kayla Ann Roytapel (née Wilkinson);

Wive of Vladlen, would be Emil's sister-in-law

Antonina Petrovna Roytapel;

Haven't looked into her much, but she's mentioned on Vladislav's site:


She looks relatively young, she's probably his sister

Igor Roytapel;

Friends with the other ones on facebook, lives in Israel

I wonder if his mother uses the that surname. So far I only checked Roytapels.

it's also worth mentioning the exact nation of origin is a bit hard to pin down. Many family members are mentioned to be Russian, from the Kazakh border, but multiple family members claim to have been born in Baku, Kazakhstan (according to their social media).

Vladislav, the dog whisperer, claims to have lived in Moldova, and claims to speak Romanian and Turkish (which makes sense for a Kazakh, I guess). Maybe the family moved around Eastern Europe in the early 90s after the USSR, before settling in the US?
 
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Actually, I assume Antonina Petrovna Roytapel is his mother (or aunt). The pic on Vlad's site is clearly a placeholder. According to background checkers, she's 58 years old:

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So clearly not his sister. Infact, according to Vlad's facebook, she's is wive. So either Emil's mother or aunt.

She has two linkedin accounts, one with a picture;
LinkedIn
LinkedIn2

She works in IT, and apparantly also at Vlad's dog center. Worth mentioning that she, just like Vlad, studied in Moldova.

But come to think of it, no mention of Vlad and Antonina's kids, and no mention of Vladlev's and Emil's parents - are mr dog whisperer and Antonina his parents? Did they have Emil back when they lived in Moldova?

Emil appears in Antonina and Vlad's friend list, but neither on the friendlist of his brother nor his sister-in-law.

Edit: there's more stuff on Vlad's facebook and site that make me think that, yes, the dog whisperer and this Antonina are his parents, while the realtor is his brother. Since Vlad was born in 1962 in Baku, Kazakhstan, he moved to Moldova in 1980, had Emil 10 years later before moving to the US in 1995 and settling in California a while later
 
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Then let this thread die.
The reason it's almost 600 pages is because you know that in your hearts I haven't lost the debate and you keep coming back to hear the same repetitive talking points.
I've been here long enough to see that you're all virtue signaling to each other for social approval rather than address real social issues.
Not wanting to sleep with kids isn’t virtue signaling.
 
What?

I can guarantee you that more people in the US identify as white nationalists or black nationalists than want to "lower the age of consent to high school range".

You thought wrong.
I'm a zoomer and old enough to drink in my country.

I don't.

I think many people think 17 is the same as 18 and maybe 16 too.
AoC below 16 is a harder sell but still doable to at least 14.
If leftists were serious, they could easily lower AoC to 14-16 with little pushback, far less then they received for transgenderism.

White Nationalism or Nationalism in general in incredibly unpopular because most whites know good non whites and bad whites, compartmentalize the racial problems such as white flight and think we can ignore or overcome any racial tension.
Most Whites believe that rejecting people because of their race is wrong and America should be a nation of immigrants where everyone is given an opportunity to succeed. (Ronald Reagan vision)
Most White Americans don't care if they become a minority, don't care if their grandkids are mixed race, think crime and intelligence is cultural and think America will remain the same nation when whites are replaced.
Most White Americans are completely on board with population replacement and white genocide, they just want leftists to stop being mean to Whites, maybe not teach CRT?
Even the Whites who claim to support borders and think open borders is insane still want massive legal immigration to the point that Whites are replaced.
Most Whites have completely rejected biology and eugenics in favor of not hurting people's feelings.
Anti racism is the most successful propaganda campaign in recent human history.
These people are so weak that they can't even stop affirmative action and they're starting to lose on the reparations argument.

"Haha left is soo crazy" and even "left is anti white" is an easy sell but, "becoming a minority is a mistake" is an incredibly difficult sell. "well I have non white friends and everything is okay so who cares if we become a minority?" or "only leftists care about race. You must be a leftist." I think this convo shows the power of echo chambers and bubbles. Your perspective is inverted from reality.

@Pee Cola If I wanted to grift easily. Grifting AoC as a leftist would be the easiest grift. I bet a large percentage of them would support it and there would be no risk of deplatforming. WN despite being milquetoast online is incredibly unpopular IRL.
 
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