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These eyes look like someone trying really, really hard to pick a fight with you for no discernible reason and are thus a little unsettling. That, or they look blank and soulless which is in itself creepy.
I feel like most of the FtMs I've ever had to put up with have this image or idealized masculinity that they try to emulate of being an annoying, aggressive douchebag, I guess because that's just what men "are". So just like the constant misogyny of trooned men who only value femininity as a fetishistic object, and the hypocrisy of both for reinforcing gender norms in their own twisted way, troon women seem to consider toxic masculinity an ideal to strive for

Also, I'm amazed there's not a single letterman jacket to be found in any of these
 
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I feel like most of the FtMs I've ever had to put up with have this image or idealized masculinity that they try to emulate of being an annoying, aggressive douchebag, I guess because that's just what men "are". So just like the constant misogyny of trooned men who only value femininity as a fetishistic object, and the hypocrisy of both for reinforcing gender norms in their own twisted way, troon women seem to consider toxic masculinity an ideal to strive for

Also, I'm amazed there's not a single letterman jacket to be found in any of these
letterman jackets have been out of style for 50 years
 
I have said elsewhere and will say again, I will believe these sad little specimens are real men when they start doing admirable masculine things, such as joining the Marines, becoming firefighters, or working to rehabilitate incarcerated teens. Hell, even charging selflessly in to break up a bar fight.

Show us what you’re made of, “guys”. Until then, posing meaningfully and trying to look manly with your pale little faces and misery-filled eyes ain’t gonna cut it.
 
They are just as deranged but in a different manner, I think. Again, the differences between men's and women's socialization as well the biological differences between males and females. I have no doubt Cris Cyborg could beat a good number of men up but that simply isn't true for most females, meaning the danger they generally pose isn't as severe as a raging AGP built like a brick shithouse.

Here's a new-ish looking selfie of Nady "Milo" Stewart:
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And here's a group photo of Mallory "Danny" Lavery (née Ortberg, top) and her wifeband Joseph "Grace" Lavery (né Lavery, center) from their wonderful thread:
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These eyes aren't saying "I'm gonna kill you, rape your still warm corpse, then make a skin suit out of you", they're saying "I want to be free from the hell of this existence". The threat isn't directed outwards against other people or even lifeless objects, it's directed inwards.
Nady/Milo just looks like any other #kwurky!!XDDD theater girl trying to not be like the other girls. Probably because that's what she was when she started on her path to troondom.
 
I feel like most of the FtMs I've ever had to put up with have this image or idealized masculinity that they try to emulate of being an annoying, aggressive douchebag, I guess because that's just what men "are". So just like the constant misogyny of trooned men who only value femininity as a fetishistic object, and the hypocrisy of both for reinforcing gender norms in their own twisted way, troon women seem to consider toxic masculinity an ideal to strive for

Also, I'm amazed there's not a single letterman jacket to be found in any of these
They couldn't get the bf, so they became the bf.
 
Here's a specimen for ya.
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If it wasn't for the trans flag in the background or the mangled chest, I'd think that the dude had always been a man.
 
It’s like the surgeon sneezed while they were deciding where to put the nipples back on.

But that reasonably passing FTM is actually a good illustration about why most don’t achieve that level of passing: this person has a strong browbone, which most adult white males have and which (most, not all) females and younger males do not.

Once you notice that it’s the lack of brow ridge you’re seeing, everything else falls into place:
  • Why do younger, beardless FTMs look like 13 year old boys even when they're in their early 20s? Boys around that age haven’t yet developed the full “adult male” bone structure, so your brain interprets their face as younger.
  • Why do older FTMs look so… weird? Because they have the other features of adult men (facial hair, weathered skin) while still having that flat upper face that your brain associates with women and children.
  • Why do non-whites tend to pass better as the opposite sex? White people tend to have the most sexual dimorphism in the browbone. East Asians of both sexes for example tend to have flatter upper faces (speaking extremely generally here; obviously there are exceptions).
 
They are just as deranged but in a different manner, I think. Again, the differences between men's and women's socialization as well the biological differences between males and females. I have no doubt Cris Cyborg could beat a good number of men up but that simply isn't true for most females, meaning the danger they generally pose isn't as severe as a raging AGP built like a brick shithouse.

Here's a new-ish looking selfie of Nady "Milo" Stewart:
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And here's a group photo of Mallory "Danny" Lavery (née Ortberg, top) and her wifeband Joseph "Grace" Lavery (né Lavery, center) from their wonderful thread:
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These eyes aren't saying "I'm gonna kill you, rape your still warm corpse, then make a skin suit out of you", they're saying "I want to be free from the hell of this existence". The threat isn't directed outwards against other people or even lifeless objects, it's directed inwards.

Looks like Sargon isn't the most stuck-in-2015-person after all
 
Here's a specimen for ya.
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If it wasn't for the trans flag in the background or the mangled chest, I'd think that the dude had always been a man.
Like the MTF, if you see them on their own without any people around, a few could pass purely on aesthetics. But put them in a lineup of True and Honest Males/Females and it becomes evident when Gimli is hanging out with the menfolk. This person is most likely petite as all hell and barely clears five foot.

Even a genuine short statured man has a kind of bulky architecture underpinning all the externals.
 
Male eye's are sunken in and have a different shape.
When you say “sunken in” you are probably referring to the eyes being under a protruding brow ridge, as I was talking about in my post. The woman in the picture has an unusually strong brow ridge for a female, which is why she passes to some people.

Male:

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Female:

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Keep in mind I am talking averages. Some females have very strong brows (particularly northern Europeans, although that is just my unscientific observation) and some ethnicities have a flatter brow in both sexes.
 
Why does it seem like the FtM's that get "top" surgery have surgeons that have absolutely no idea where male nipples are supposed to go? Do the people doing these mastectomies not have a plastic surgeon come in and do the final aesthetics and closing?

I have seen similar horror shows with actual women who have had mastectomies related to cancer when it is done by a general surgeon. Some of them the nipples aren't even horizontally aligned. It's scary. Who in their right mind wouldn't have a plastic surgeon do the final aesthetics and closing? You will not only have the best aesthetic outcome, but plastic surgeons are the only surgeons that know the correct tricks in order to minimize/hide scaring. Some plastic surgeons are so good at it, I was amazed to learn the patient has even had a major reconstruction. Without an actual inspection up close, you wouldn't even know they ever had anything done. Some of the talent in plastic surgery is mind blowing. (and some of them would be better off doing horror sfx in Hollywood).
 
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