Russian Invasion of Ukraine (2022): Thread 1 - Ukrainian Liars vs Russian Liars with Air and Artillery Superiority

[Randall Fragg]

You know what, I've become so disillusioned with the basic humanity of the elite-technocrats that I can totally see them try to start WW3/nuclear holocaust as a big 'fuck you' table flip to the plebs.

 

[Kujo Jotaro]

You know what, I've become so disillusioned with the basic humanity of the elite-technocrats that I can totally see them try to start WW3/nuclear holocaust as a big 'fuck you' table flip to the plebs.

They can start whatever they want, pleb moral is at a historical low; at least 75% of zoomers would be conscientious objectors.

 

[RainwaterDrop]

You know what, I've become so disillusioned with the basic humanity of the elite-technocrats that I can totally see them try to start WW3/nuclear holocaust as a big 'fuck you' table flip to the plebs.

Nobody with a functioning brain would do that. They would lose everything within seconds, even a very well stocked Yacht or compound would eventually run out of power, food and other resources. As far as I know there are no billionaires with personal nuclear reactors available, so they can't really retreat to private bunkers in the even of a nuclear exchange!

In the event of a nuclear war the very thing these people have, resources and power over the State, vanish as society breaks down. There are no winners in nuclear wars!

Russia is clearly saber rattling to the point of war becoming a real possibility, but it remains to be seen whether this will work out!

 

[Nacho Man Randy Salsa]

The West has grown so complacent since the 90s they don't think Putin will do shit if they cross the border.

Anyone that remembers Cold War MAD are either retired or dead.

 

[SmugAutist]

You know what, I've become so disillusioned with the basic humanity of the elite-technocrats that I can totally see them try to start WW3/nuclear holocaust as a big 'fuck you' table flip to the plebs.

Trust me, the Cathedral doesn't want this to happen. At fucking all. They want America to continue being the global hegemon as an assurance to their way of life and their businesses. A full on conflict will upend that system, especially if the US decides to not intervene because America is not ready as a nation to go to a war of this magnitude.

Yes, the US has the resources to go to war and defeat the Russians, but man, it would be, by far, the most destructive conflict America would go into because this time, you don't have extremely powerful allies to take the brunt of the casualties for us like it happened in WW1 and 2. You have Poland, who is currently building their military and are not ready yet, Germany, who might help but not in the frontlines, France, who is busy rebuilding their colonial empire in Africa and couldn't give a shit about Eastern Europe, and the less we talk about the British Army the better.

The US could just say "fuck this" and not show, but at that point, they lose their global hegemon authority, and you will have countries that once looked to the US for protection realize that they need to build back their militaries. Countires like Turkey, France, Japan, and the UK, and the world changes drastically now that you have several world powers back in business.

The globohomo want stability, and this war will be a catastrophic upset to global stability.

 

[Henry V]

As of now, there is a noticeable lack of ceasefire violations which typically have been occurring at least once every day for the past few months. There hasn't been any in over 3 days which might suggest a regrouping of separatist forces.

 

[KiwiSeperatist]

As of now, there is a noticeable lack of ceasefire violations which typically have been occurring at least once every day for the past few months. There hasn't been any in over 3 days which might suggest a regrouping of separatist forces.
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[Henry V]

what app or website are you using?

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[KiwiSeperatist]

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Thanks.

 

[Simple Moving Average]

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Very useful, thanks.

 

[ChefKiss]

Trust me, the Cathedral doesn't want this to happen. At fucking all. They want America to continue being the global hegemon as an assurance to their way of life and their businesses. A full on conflict will upend that system, especially if the US decides to not intervene because America is not ready as a nation to go to a war of this magnitude.

No they don't, they're all in on china and they're in danger of losing a lot, Russia and America getting into a slapfight is the only way for China to get on top now

 

[LillWeeb]

If Russia don't do anything buy end of month im calling bs on all of this , just saying

 

[SmugAutist]

No they don't, they're all in on china and they're in danger of losing a lot, Russia and America getting into a slapfight is the only way for China to get on top now

China is completely fucked. Economically and most importantly, demographically, they're going to have a rough decade when the gravy train goes out. China is also extremely fucking unpredictable. The globohomo loved them when they opened up their markets with Deng Xiaoping but with Xi, they're going back to Maoist ideals that will fuck their businesses in China. The US is far more stable than China.

 

[Pocket Dragoon]

The West has grown so complacent since the 90s they don't think Putin will do shit if they cross the border.

Anyone that remembers Cold War MAD are either retired or dead.

Biden was, but he doesn't remember how to take a shit by himself anymore.

Which is why I think even though Putin does remember, he's banking on American indecision & lack of meaningful reaction because there's a bunch of empty suits sitting at the helm. Which would honestly be for the best, in terms of overall life saved; sucks for Ukraine, but it's probably time to make nice with your cousins & forget about NATO & the EU.

And in any case, we won't be able to ship weapons to a Ukrainian insurgency, and neither will any of our proxies; so we won't be able to pull off anything like Syria or Libya.

 

[дядя Боря]

Occupation of Ukraine is even worse idea than occupation of Crimea. Putin may be off his rocker and surrounded by people who are trying to squeeze as much money as they can, but there are plenty of oligarchs further from the trough who don't need more and even bigger headaches. Russian companies that do business in Crimea get special treatment in EU, so most avoid that region like plague.


The land bridge to Transnistria makes no sense at all. The whole point of its existence is to be pain in ass, just like Donbass and Abkhasia. Russia doesn't not want to annex Donbass, they put together at least a couple of "referendums" to join Russia, got their pseudo-Russian passports, but Russia doesn't want them. It's a dotation region just like Crimea, it takes more money to run the place than what you get back even when shit wasn't destroyed to shit and stolen. In this state it's totally worthless, so at least some one in Kremlin has enough sense to say, thanks, but we don't want to annex this turd.

Crimea always been an arid peninsula with scant resources enough to support small population. So there is no problem maintaining and expanding military bases in Crimea. Agriculture and tard population be damned, Russia never gave shit about it all these years, sure as hell they don't want now. It's a dotation region, so it takes money to even occupy it, there is no profit in its ownership. They already had special agreement about naval base and paid comp which was waaaaay cheaper that this debacle. It's not just water, power has been shitty in Crimea as well and adjacent power stations in mainland Russia are already strained. The only strategy to improve Crimea is to depopulate it, which has been going on as is.

Ukraine is a big country, occupying the whole thing or more parts will be bad optics for Putin and Russia. He will get all the attention he is whoring for, but it would be bad attention. Anyone around him would not like it. oligharchs just want to grill make money, not parade around courts in EU.


Also last week Hague tribunal/court, whatever that faggy institute, officially recognized that Crimea is occupied, so when you go suing for damages you don't need to prove that some Russian company benefits from occupation, you simply reference this decision. Once you get a judgement in your favor you can go around EU banks demanding to freeze assets to collect, and take a wild guess where most Russian patriots keep their money (hint: not in Russia)?

 

[Borscht]

And in any case, we won't be able to ship weapons to a Ukrainian insurgency, and neither will any of our proxies; so we won't be able to pull off anything like Syria or Libya.

Why not? The Ukraineans won't refuse, and it's not like you don't have the entire NATO logistics infrastructure to take advantage of. Who is going to stop you?

 

[Pocket Dragoon]

Why not? The Ukraineans won't refuse, and it's not like you don't have the entire NATO logistics infrastructure to take advantage of. Who is going to stop you?

I'd say Ukraine's neighbors, to start. At the very least because they don't want any part of Putin putting the old band back together, nevermind that the fallout from a nasty protracted insurgency & allowing those same arms through will land on them first.

And besides that, there's no real way the US could maintain any sort of plausible deniability; it's not like anyone else has even close to the means or money needed to fund it.

 

[Badungus Kabungus]

1. Ukrainian intelligence announced that "separatists" have lost controls over chemical reservoirs belonging to Stirol, which was a major chemical/medical plant in East Europe before the war. They think chemical leak could be used as a pretense to invade.

Now where did I hear that premise before?

Oh yeah.

There's some chatter about a planned false flag by the Ukrainian army using American chemical weapons. No real proof of it yet, but will see what happens.

 

[Pocket Dragoon]

I'd say Ukraine's neighbors, to start. At the very least because they don't want any part of Putin putting the old band back together, nevermind that the fallout from a nasty protracted insurgency & allowing those same arms through will land on them first.

And besides that, there's no real way the US could maintain any sort of plausible deniability; it's not like anyone else has even close to the means or money needed to fund it.

 

[KiwiSeperatist]

Biden was, but he doesn't remember how to take a shit by himself anymore.

lol'd at this while reading