Philosophy Tube / Oliver Lennard / Oliver "Olly" Thorn / Abigail Thorn - Breadtube's Patrick Bateman.

[Owner of a Lonely Hole]

@narcissistic injury He reconciles it with his penis. Dude, it’s all a jerk fantasy. Your head will stop hurting about it the second you stop trying to apply logic.

 

[narcissistic injury]

a comprehensive alice post here: https://kiwifarms.net/threads/tranny-sideshows-on-social-media.33028/page-1350

can't quote it and i'm forum-incompetent

 

[AfghanBlue]

Seeing as Chube is just repeating himself ad infinit on twitter, and will be working on The NVM for a little while, we are gonna be short of milk, so i am making a diagnosis to end this chapter, as i think we're gonna have a slow one for a while.
He's a cow that doesn't produce a LOT of milk- its just that what he does produce its so SOUR. . people are not here for harmless lulz at Chube, like they are most cows; distanced by their inherent freakishness- Rather instead, it because he is so genuinely hateable.

This really is no good thing, for the health of any of our stomach linings.
So here is my current diagnosis:

Chube's patter is just crap.

So the following screencap is small potatoes, compared to the current tweets it sits around, repeated so often as to be propagandic: stale lies, shit state of it-
more crap about ' NHS Senior Admins (Tm) ' , more turning his own lies into common parlance 'I've heard it said in the UK that we should actually do away with the requirement for dysphoria", more audaciously casual, blatant misrepresentation of HRT uses etc, etc, etc..)

-it's a small thing compared to that stuff ( honestly I dunno how he doesn't bore himself rigid with it by now) BUT -
it really does drive home just how shit, talentless, boring comedically bereft and stunted he really is:

He really did say it best himself in some interview i think, talking about a previous video- chronologically, round about when he was on the precipice of wether he would self-reflect & grow - or wether he would self destruct and Enact Abigahoulism.

"this is trash with no worth and it could only be created by someone with a fundamentally uncreative soul" (viz//sic/ sorry, cba to check it up- but smt like that)

Everything he does is surface level, and all he can do on that surface is lash out at whoever looks like a target - whose only viability for his diet ire, is that they will currently be popular to bash.

For someone who claims to be a phiLOLsopher, and who is blatantly self obsessed, he seems somehow utterly immune to actually questioning his own reflexes and reactions; I mean, guess thats how we got the horror that is Abigail..
its just ironic, is all.

Its the same with the whole channel really. Instead of leaning into substance, and making interesting stuff with the ideas he is supposedly presenting, He leant into style- which he has none of and fundamentally misunderstands; he doesn't even understand irony, he is not cool, and never was a cool kid, but is just slightly too clever to be able to accept this- yet simultaneously not clever enough to be able to accept this.

I mean no wonder his shit has barley any engagement on there- no wonder he decided being Trooncess O' Terfland was the smart move; its literally the only thing that continues to get him any positive attention from any group,

Prognosis- once the wheels start coming way further off than they already are, we are likely to see some much wilder shit.
In the meantime.... oh to be a fly on the wall in the Oliver! rehearsal space.

EDIT

Spoiler: Alice Through The Cooking Class (eat the rich- learn how!)

@narcissistic injury
LOL so ofc 'Alice' (whats this cunts real name?) went to a VERY posh, well known private school too.

AND was also in the CCF- notable for only being set up in private schools- working class kids join the army cadets, air cadets, sea cadets, if they are interested in an of the forces; whereas private schools of a certain stature have the CCF built into them- with the express purpose of moulding future officers, not just the regular cannon fodder.

So at least two of the James Bond 'haters' had this background.
And yet its still sooooo out of the confines of believable possibility that Olly would be approached by a Royal patronage institute to do a little signal boosting here and there. Fucking embarrassing for them honestly, where is thier shame?
How can they have the gall to promote left politics, (and in A's case 'islam') in word only, doing literally nothing to back it up, ESPECIALLY when they have such obvious 'debt' as regards the whole thing?
I've said this before, but seriously, where is the shame?
(-misunderstand me not, I mean the shame we all have, for are we not all sinners, my child?)

This is why (and fundamentally cos I like her anyway) Contra triumphs hands down, no contest in 'is this person deserving of any dislike?''

She has shame, she drips with it, and she acts accordingly and henceforth is absolved of it. And it is nothing copared to the shame these two should be DROWNING in.

Edit II: dubl trubl-
Fkn hell, so this has ended up as a gargantuan post, but, I only just got round to checking out @esmeggs 4chan link-

i mean like obviously the red highlighted one reads so absurdly its probably a troll but like...has PT deleted that Clover tweet reply? cos i haven't/can't see it and it was only the other day?
as if, maybe he did really reply on the chan and really did freak and delete his post lmao

fr tho , i think he deleted that clover post.? i know he's a couple younger than me, but just a couple and i dont remember that cartoon and i bet he didnt watch it as a kid either- he's just jumping on whatever lame twitter troon train is going a la mode.

 

[narcissistic injury]

How long will PT wait for surgery recovery to present his beauty to the world? That oughta provide some milk

I am dying for some hot hot chube action




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Alice’s husband’s Instagram is the saddest and weirdest. No Alice to be seen

https://www.instagram.com/christophercaldwellkelly/

 

[AfghanBlue]

Alice’s husband’s Instagram is the saddest and weirdest. No Alice to be seen

https://www.instagram.com/christophercaldwellkelly/

oh… wow he really is kinda weird.
genuinely not to be horrible or anything but like.. do you think there’s something wrong with him? physically i mean.
he looks like he’s had maybe a stroke or he’s getting those schizophrenia monthly arse injections which are just a giant chemical cosh .. just seems to wander around taking pictures off himself looking like an advert for benzo abuse.

he also seems to have unadvisedly decided he has ‘a side’ and that every photo should be taken from this …more flattering ? angle, but it just makes every picture look weirdly calculated and “same hell, different day” a la Kevin Gibes.
also AMAB, my arse.

 

[PennyAni]

I'm a bit confused- who is "Clover" and why are we (they) sure it's Contra?

(Asking as a child of the 90s; Clover was a fan nickname for Courtney Love back in the day. I was in all of the Hole fan clubs, don't judge me)

 

[A Dark Day Indeed]

I'm a bit confused- who is "Clover" and why are we (they) sure it's Contra?

(Asking as a child of the 90s; Clover was a fan nickname for Courtney Love back in the day. I was in all of the Hole fan clubs, don't judge me)

He's been hornyposting about Totally Spies lately. It was mid-aughties animated show about three highschool valley girls who were also sexy superspies. These days it's mostly remembered for the mountains of obvious fetish shit the creator was able to cram into it; it carved some grooves into quite a few millennials. Clover was the name of the superficial blonde one, naturally.

 

[esmeggs]

He's in America now for FFS. Good luck.
@AfghanBlue People on tttt pretend to be Olly all the time to be silly. Also I dropped your horse piss drawing in this thread for you since others were posting old mspaints.

 

[PennyAni]

also AMAB, my arse.

Oh yeah, had the same exact thought. Would put money on it, I think.

I'm sorry (not really) but "an uptick in abuse" made me laugh. What abuse? Did a few more mean lesbians online start making fun of you?

Ok so I wasn't misremembering and it seems he actually did throw a diva fit over the microphone. Amazing.

All in character for the openly unrepentant uber-asshole persona he's beein trying on more and more this past year.

Maybe he associates being a "real woman" with being a raging bitch? That would also fit his general profile....in oh so many ways.

Also-- this may have been posted before, and apologies for not having the tumblr app....but it was my first time seeing this particular fan question/opinion for Chube. What a fucking asshole lol.

 

[doja tiger]

All in character for the openly unrepentant uber-asshole persona he's beein trying on more and more this past year.

Maybe he associates being a "real woman" with being a raging bitch? That would also fit his general profile....in oh so many ways.

Also-- this may have been posted before, and apologies for not having the tumblr app....but it was my first time seeing this particular fan question/opinion for Chube. What a fucking asshole lol.

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someone: *asks a question*
Tube: this is an attack on my mental health, you're literally killing trans people and I owe you nothing

sure, there's no obligation to be nice to everyone all the time... but he's just so passively aggressive towards everyone, especially towards people who care about him enough to message him. was he like that before the transition? I don't remember that level of entitlement and aggression before this whole Abbie circus

 

[fax machine]

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He's in America now for FFS. Good luck.

Best of luck to the Chube on his faceshopping, and best of luck to us filling this dry spell. It's going to be nothing but petty bullshit from me in the next 1.5 months, so let me start with Jesus Christ please find another joke about America — there's plenty of material. He's done this "haha America only good for breakfast sandwiches" bit multiple times already. Why does he always beat his bits to death? The breakfast sandwiches, the hot blondes, the dictionary definitions devolving into gibberish, the incest lady, the TERF Island seething, and on and on and on. Dude doesn't know how to let a thing breathe. Not that he's especially funny in the first place, but even good jokes are destroyed by this kind of static repetition.

He's as creative in his comedy as in his philosophy videos. I'd say he has the energy of a mirror, but somehow he also manages to flop at mirroring human behavior when he acts.

Amused & mystified by the suggestion that @PhilosophyTube does not tweet opinions, as if "abolish dysphoria as a clinical diagnosis," "pilot schemes are segregation," "medical gatekeeping is transphobia," and "fuck the NHS and BBC" are not opinions. The consequent implication is that these ideas are, to his mind, branding, which is sinister as fuck because what kind of ghoul hops on fringe political campaigns with enormous ramifications on the health of a country to build a personal brand?

To be fair, he isn't alone. Most online political squabbles are driven by personal branding more than anything else. But most people feel enough shame not to admit it so transparently.

oh… wow he really is kinda weird.
genuinely not to be horrible or anything but like.. do you think there’s something wrong with him? physically i mean.
he looks like he’s had maybe a stroke or he’s getting those schizophrenia monthly arse injections which are just a giant chemical cosh .. just seems to wander around taking pictures off himself looking like an advert for benzo abuse.

He tweets often about his experiences with hospitals and various illnesses, chronic and otherwise.

Spoiler: slim selection; much more on his account

Usually I take people at their word with these things, but this guy is married to Muslimah lesbian socialist Alice Caldwell-Kelly, so... you know. Who knows. Maybe someone with medical knowledge can shed some light.

also AMAB, my arse.

He's posted a fair few photos from his youth and childhood.

Spoiler: idk

ymmv but I find that generally stealth trans people don't air out their pasts like that.

 

[Pencilvester]

oh… wow he really is kinda weird.
genuinely not to be horrible or anything but like.. do you think there’s something wrong with him? physically i mean.
he looks like he’s had maybe a stroke or he’s getting those schizophrenia monthly arse injections which are just a giant chemical cosh .. just seems to wander around taking pictures off himself looking like an advert for benzo abuse.

he also seems to have unadvisedly decided he has ‘a side’ and that every photo should be taken from this …more flattering ? angle, but it just makes every picture look weirdly calculated and “same hell, different day” a la Kevin Gibes.
also AMAB, my arse.

He reminds me of the weird ESPer kids from Akira

Best of luck to the Chube on his faceshopping, and best of luck to us filling this dry spell. It's going to be nothing but petty bullshit from me in the next 1.5 months, so let me start with Jesus Christ please find another joke about America — there's plenty of material. He's done this "haha America only good for breakfast sandwiches" bit multiple times already. Why does he always beat his bits to death? The breakfast sandwiches, the hot blondes, the dictionary definitions devolving into gibberish, the incest lady, the TERF Island seething, and on and on and on. Dude doesn't know how to let a thing breathe. Not that he's especially funny in the first place, but even good jokes are destroyed by this kind of static repetition.

He's as creative in his comedy as in his philosophy videos. I'd say he has the energy of a mirror, but somehow he also manages to flop at mirroring human behavior when he acts.

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Amused & mystified by the suggestion that @PhilosophyTube does not tweet opinions, as if "abolish dysphoria as a clinical diagnosis," "pilot schemes are segregation," "medical gatekeeping is transphobia," and "fuck the NHS and BBC" are not opinions. The consequent implication is that these ideas are, to his mind, branding, which is sinister as fuck because what kind of ghoul hops on fringe political campaigns with enormous ramifications on the health of a country to build a personal brand?

To be fair, he isn't alone. Most online political squabbles are driven by personal branding more than anything else. But most people feel enough shame not to admit it so transparently.


He tweets often about his experiences with hospitals and various illnesses, chronic and otherwise.

Spoiler: slim selection; much more on his account

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Usually I take people at their word with these things, but this guy is married to Muslimah lesbian socialist Alice Caldwell-Kelly, so... you know. Who knows. Maybe someone with medical knowledge can shed some light.


He's posted a fair few photos from his youth and childhood.

Spoiler: idk

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ymmv but I find that generally stealth trans people don't air out their pasts like that.

The "sea-blood" disease is Thalassemia. I'd definitely believe he's chronically ill based on how he looks, but then again I was pretty sure he was FtM so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

[narcissistic injury]

oh… wow he really is kinda weird.
genuinely not to be horrible or anything but like.. do you think there’s something wrong with him? physically i mean.
he looks like he’s had maybe a stroke or he’s getting those schizophrenia monthly arse injections which are just a giant chemical cosh .. just seems to wander around taking pictures off himself looking like an advert for benzo abuse.

he also seems to have unadvisedly decided he has ‘a side’ and that every photo should be taken from this …more flattering ? angle, but it just makes every picture look weirdly calculated and “same hell, different day” a la Kevin Gibes.
also AMAB, my arse.

Best of luck to the Chube on his faceshopping, and best of luck to us filling this dry spell. It's going to be nothing but petty bullshit from me in the next 1.5 months, so let me start with Jesus Christ please find another joke about America — there's plenty of material. He's done this "haha America only good for breakfast sandwiches" bit multiple times already. Why does he always beat his bits to death? The breakfast sandwiches, the hot blondes, the dictionary definitions devolving into gibberish, the incest lady, the TERF Island seething, and on and on and on. Dude doesn't know how to let a thing breathe. Not that he's especially funny in the first place, but even good jokes are destroyed by this kind of static repetition.

He's as creative in his comedy as in his philosophy videos. I'd say he has the energy of a mirror, but somehow he also manages to flop at mirroring human behavior when he acts.

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Amused & mystified by the suggestion that @PhilosophyTube does not tweet opinions, as if "abolish dysphoria as a clinical diagnosis," "pilot schemes are segregation," "medical gatekeeping is transphobia," and "fuck the NHS and BBC" are not opinions. The consequent implication is that these ideas are, to his mind, branding, which is sinister as fuck because what kind of ghoul hops on fringe political campaigns with enormous ramifications on the health of a country to build a personal brand?

To be fair, he isn't alone. Most online political squabbles are driven by personal branding more than anything else. But most people feel enough shame not to admit it so transparently.


He tweets often about his experiences with hospitals and various illnesses, chronic and otherwise.

Spoiler: slim selection; much more on his account

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Usually I take people at their word with these things, but this guy is married to Muslimah lesbian socialist Alice Caldwell-Kelly, so... you know. Who knows. Maybe someone with medical knowledge can shed some light.


He's posted a fair few photos from his youth and childhood.

Spoiler: idk

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ymmv but I find that generally stealth trans people don't air out their pasts like that.

He reminds me of the weird ESPer kids from Akira
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The "sea-blood" disease is Thalassemia. I'd definitely believe he's chronically ill based on how he looks, but then again I was pretty sure he was FtM so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

yes i do think he looks unwell..... however psych is my game so im not really very familiar with physical health anymore....

he's got a weird, low tone, bloaty chub look that looks like medication. not antipsychotic injections though - those patients have their metabolisms fucked with on the antipsychotics so they just get fat - and usually if someone is sensitive in that regards they will get faaaaaaaaat. He doesn’t have that weight gain look

when i saw some of the pix of his body and facial hair distribution I wondered if he was trans. I did some hunting and this morning I gave a listen to the KJB podcast that he guest stars in and he has a normal male voice (not one of those grating hoarse testosterone-d female voices) and given that plus the pix above i don't think he's trans. I think his body is just off because of illness and/or treatment (medication)

the podcast is so fucked. they didn't even introduce him. he was just kind of there and seemed shy and soft spoken. he didn't say anything at all for the first bit. When he did speak up, it was way more interesting and thought provoking than this disgusting superbad-style garbage that Princess Abi and Alice are farting out.


his baby/childhood pix are so sweet though. i feel badly for him. so sad

 

[AfghanBlue]

Best of luck to the Chube on his faceshopping, and best of luck to us filling this dry spell. It's going to be nothing but petty bullshit from me in the next 1.5 months, so let me start with Jesus Christ please find another joke about America — there's plenty of material. He's done this "haha America only good for breakfast sandwiches" bit multiple times already. Why does he always beat his bits to death? The breakfast sandwiches, the hot blondes, the dictionary definitions devolving into gibberish, the incest lady, the TERF Island seething, and on and on and on. Dude doesn't know how to let a thing breathe. Not that he's especially funny in the first place, but even good jokes are destroyed by this kind of static repetition.

He's as creative in his comedy as in his philosophy videos. I'd say he has the energy of a mirror, but somehow he also manages to flop at mirroring human behavior when he acts.

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Amused & mystified by the suggestion that @PhilosophyTube does not tweet opinions, as if "abolish dysphoria as a clinical diagnosis," "pilot schemes are segregation," "medical gatekeeping is transphobia," and "fuck the NHS and BBC" are not opinions. The consequent implication is that these ideas are, to his mind, branding, which is sinister as fuck because what kind of ghoul hops on fringe political campaigns with enormous ramifications on the health of a country to build a personal brand?

To be fair, he isn't alone. Most online political squabbles are driven by personal branding more than anything else. But most people feel enough shame not to admit it so transparently.


He tweets often about his experiences with hospitals and various illnesses, chronic and otherwise.

Spoiler: slim selection; much more on his account

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Usually I take people at their word with these things, but this guy is married to Muslimah lesbian socialist Alice Caldwell-Kelly, so... you know. Who knows. Maybe someone with medical knowledge can shed some light.


He's posted a fair few photos from his youth and childhood.

Spoiler: idk

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ymmv but I find that generally stealth trans people don't air out their pasts like that.

....huhh, i was gonna call his illness bullshit, but honestly maybe it is something cos he looks weird af now.He looks way less fucking weirdo TIF in these old pictures.
bitchass move tho, moaning about getting a couple blood tests and vaccinations on a free health service which really aint bad , a slight inconvenience you should be grateful exists for you.


Also, the cringe of the ppl commenting
"awesome sounding genetic illness dude!"
''damn i hope that sucks i hope it turns out to be easily curable and if so you have a not bad time doing such dude"

all brands of patheticism / online pointlessism on show here

@Pencilvester man i STILL havent watched Akira despite my pal being on case about it since legit 2002

EDIT- i feel bad for him now after reading @narcissistic injury take on hearing him in the podcast. . I need CHUBE to pick the fuck up to direct some rage or lulz at. weird lil guy probably just fancied a visa a hitched on to whatever horse.

 

[AirdropShitposts]

TERF Island is definitely different from the US, but I doubt anything in that post would be "seriously libelous" there either even if he is the "most well-known trans person in the country." (Which, don't tell the other trans people because they're also the center of the universe.) Especially since this is pretty anon. I guess if Oliver wants to subpoena 4chan for the IP he's welcome to.

I certainly hope no Kiwi Farmers would dare suggest that "most well-known trans person in the country" is a predator.

 

[AfghanBlue]

TERF Island is definitely different from the US, but I doubt anything in that post would be "seriously libelous" there either even if he is the "most well-known trans person in the country." (Which, don't tell the other trans people because they're also the center of the universe.) Especially since this is pretty anon. I guess if Oliver wants to subpoena 4chan for the IP he's welcome to.

I certainly hope no Kiwi Farmers would dare suggest that "most well-known trans person in the country" is a predator.

seems like he whole Libel thing became a meme- its up in the air whose fault it is tho, between Chube and Stehpanie'SNL275' his poor unloved whiteknight.

it still funny tho cos, though I honestly cba to thorougly check, but I am pretty sure Chube deleted his lame kids TV hornypost anyway- i aint seen it about on his twitter hence.

 

[AssignedEva]

Best of luck to the Chube on his faceshopping, and best of luck to us filling this dry spell. It's going to be nothing but petty bullshit from me in the next 1.5 months, so let me start with Jesus Christ please find another joke about America — there's plenty of material. He's done this "haha America only good for breakfast sandwiches" bit multiple times already. Why does he always beat his bits to death? The breakfast sandwiches, the hot blondes, the dictionary definitions devolving into gibberish, the incest lady, the TERF Island seething, and on and on and on.

I wonder what will happen if the FFS is horribly botched?

I'd expect some level of cope about "the swelling is still going down" for a while, but would Ollie have the self awareness to recognise it was botched? He does seem to think he's super hot as is. But if he recognised he was botched would he freak out and refuse to go on camera?

Also the reason he does this dumb stuff about America is because he's a lazy posho so he adopts the most basic "we're better than those classless Americans hohohoho" posturing.

 

[Futaba]

was he like that before the transition? I don't remember that level of entitlement and aggression before this whole Abbie circus

I have been thinking about this observation quite a bit. Transwomen often say they suffer from transmisogyny - an opression that is specific to being trans. There is no real oppression that transwomen face - its bullshit. However, I think people do tire from the overtly feminine performance of transwomen a lot faster.

With transwomen like Olly we have a perfect control group of his former self to test this. I have had his pre troon videos on in the background and honestly I dont think anything has materially changed in the way he presents ideas or the ideas in general. In his pre troon videos he is obnoxiously confident, constantly pandering and is quite evidently feeling himself but I am able to stomach it a lot better than his performances as Abigail. Because in some ways I expect this chauvanistic, boombastic, camp behaviour from a male but it just doesnt fly when you are a woman.

There are rhetorical tools that women use to make others listen to them because quite often we are subconsciously dismissed. Olly has none of these tools having been socialised as male which makes his Abigail videos so jarring. Its the male interpretation of what a woman is that I find eternally interesting. I am sad to admit that by seeing what transwomen think women are has made me lose respect for men as a class - its the eternal bruh moment.

On the Alice topic - I have never seen a biography of such failure. This man has even failed at being gay.

 

[LeChampion1992]

I have been thinking about this observation quite a bit. Transwomen often say they suffer from transmisogyny - an opression that is specific to being trans. There is no real oppression that transwomen face - its bullshit. However, I think people do tire from the overtly feminine performance of transwomen a lot faster.

With transwomen like Olly we have a perfect control group of his former self to test this. I have had his pre troon videos on in the background and honestly I dont think anything has materially changed in the way he presents ideas or the ideas in general. In his pre troon videos he is obnoxiously confident, constantly pandering and is quite evidently feeling himself but I am able to stomach it a lot better than his performances as Abigail. Because in some ways I expect this chauvanistic, boombastic, camp behaviour from a male but it just doesnt fly when you are a woman.

There are rhetorical tools that women use to make others listen to them because quite often we are subconsciously dismissed. Olly has none of these tools having been socialised as male which makes his Abigail videos so jarring. Its the male interpretation of what a woman is that I find eternally interesting. I am sad to admit that by seeing what transwomen think women are has made me lose respect for men as a class - its the eternal bruh moment.

On the Alice topic - I have never seen a biography of such failure. This man has even failed at being gay.

I mean Abigail aka olly boy is stuck in a mental trap.

They're essentially trying to be more oppressed/more marginalized as an individual because being a straight white male and saying what they're saying would disqualify them. The reason is because they believe in intersectionality.

The only reason philosophy tube can be taken seriously now is because they're a trans person they're oppressed.

It's stupid but I would argue this is why olly transitioned.

 

[narcissistic injury]

My frustration with lack of chube info led me to channel my inner homemaker Olly (nigella vid) and sew a throw pillow last night

#chubespo