Let's pretend for one moment that he does die before the election, just for the funsies. What happens then? Will the nomination revert to option number 2, aka Bernie Sanders? Or will his running mate automatically replace him just the way Vice-President is supposted to step in after the Big Man in the White House chokes on a piece of matzo? Does he even have a running mate yet?
US Joe Biden News Megathread - The Other Biden Derangement Syndrome Thread (with a side order of Fauci Derangement Syndrome)
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Neither does Biden. And Trump's easiest counter would be to get a VP that does know a thing or two about war. While a bit of a meme, Gabbard would not be a terrible option there. Or any of the non-RINO, Non-Warhawk vets in Congres (Yes they exist, they are just quieter).
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Activating reserves/NG. They'd be ready much quicker than drafting people. Sending US tactical air power to the Baltics/Poland/Romania/Bulgaria/Turkey. Sending carriers to the Med. Carriers into the Baltics.
Long war...start drafting people for infantry. Takes minimum nine months to get trained troops to units. But will women be drafted?
Best for all to step back.
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Man, the news is never boring in the horrifying ways. I for one salute our brave soldiers soon to be fighting for transgenderism in Russia.
If anything does happen I'd put more stock in large amounts of "advisors" circa 1964 Nam style shenanigans.
But what do we know without hindsight. How many people in 1914 knew that a single gunman would start WW1?
If it does get out of control I could see India/Pakistan and China/Taiwan kicking off too. Way too many national grudges stewing for too long.
If anything does happen I'd put more stock in large amounts of "advisors" circa 1964 Nam style shenanigans.
But what do we know without hindsight. How many people in 1914 knew that a single gunman would start WW1?
If it does get out of control I could see India/Pakistan and China/Taiwan kicking off too. Way too many national grudges stewing for too long.
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If America start a major war in Eastern Europe because some old pants-shitting cunt couldn't stay popular after stealing an election, it might be time for Europe to join the ruskies.
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Trump graduated from the NY Military Academy so he probably does understand war and its consequences better than Nursing Home Joe. He also has no reason to cover up his crimes in the Ukraine because he didn't commit any, unlike Biden and his offspring (along with other members of Congress and their offspring).
Ukraine is absolutely irrelevant to the US, which should tell you a great deal of the culpability of those screaming the loudest we should commit resources and deploy troops there.
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Ok now is a good time for someone to berate you and sperg about Drumpfkins real quick. Cringe take.
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Biden's going to walk us into another war isn't he?
Rather then just understanding why Russia is uncomfortable being surrounded by NATO countries, the Dem's will use this as a chance to flag wave and drum up some support.
Man, we are so fucked if Putin goes through because Biden and Co will start another war without thinking,
Rather then just understanding why Russia is uncomfortable being surrounded by NATO countries, the Dem's will use this as a chance to flag wave and drum up some support.
Man, we are so fucked if Putin goes through because Biden and Co will start another war without thinking,
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I'm no political expert, but I think the only thing worse for Joey's poll numbers than getting into a war would be to reinstate the draft. That's not a bridge anyone wants to cross with how unpopular an idea it's been since the Vietnam War (even before), and yet I can totally see the senile fuck thinking it's a great idea. The one saving grace is that I believe Congress would have to pass a law to get another draft going, and I'm pretty sure there's enough people there who know their political futures would be shot to hell if they tried it.
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Rather have people just desert the military at that point like Lee and other Southerners did during the Civil War.
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The Ukrainian conflict is interesting.
It also taught me Jen Psaki was a glowie spokeswoman for the State Department before her current role as a Biden Press Janny.
Modern development (2021-now)
It also taught me Jen Psaki was a glowie spokeswoman for the State Department before her current role as a Biden Press Janny.
- In 1994, Russia, Ukraine and the US, among other nations allied with each other, signed the Budapest Memorandum on Security Assurances, where Belarus, Ukraine and Kazakhstan give up their nukes
- If breached, US assures it will come to Ukraine's aid
- China and France also call for assurances on Ukrainian soverign security, but never really commit
- U.S. apparently has a public position where the treaty is "non-legally binding" so literally anyone can just do whatever they want
- Treaty was supposedly still publically respected by US and Russia after the expiration of START I talks in 2009, another denuclearization treaty
- In 2014 with the invasion of Crimea, the deal is breached by Russia
- Pro-Sepratists groups on the border protested the new Ukrainian government as corrupt
- Government cracks down on protests
- Russia gives aid to Sepratists
- Minor battles go on and off in 2014 until a ceasefire is made and almost immediately broken
- Cools down in 2014 with minor developments until now
Modern development (2021-now)
- April 2021: NATO decides to do the largest drill in decades called DEFENDER EUROPE 13 within Ukraine and pisses off Russia
- Ukrainian spokespeople literally calling it for preperation for armed conflict with Russia
- Russia doesn't want Ukraine in NATO, because it means missiles could hit Moscow in less than 10 minutes from that range
- Russians mobilize on Ukrainian border
- Ukraine asks for NATO membership
- Russia says any further escalation would mean it could take a wide range of actions including destroy Ukraine if Russian citizens were harmed
- Germany attempts to tard wrangle
- September 2021: NATO does more drills in Ukraine, pissing off Russia more and says building up Ukrainian war supply was crossing a red line
- US deploys warships in Black Sea, pissing off Russia more
- Russia builds up 100k soldiers on the border
- November 2021: Ukraine states Russia is trying to destroy its government; Russia declines.
- Nov 30: Putin literally says its because of missiles in Ukraine being able to hit Moscow in 5-10 minutes depending on their tech, which is unacceptable to him
- NATO responds that only Ukraine has the right to join NATO if it wants, with no veto from Russia
- December 2021: Ukraine deploys 125k troops to combat Pro-Russian Sepratists on border, and even started to dronestrike them
- Russia moves artillery to border
- NATO gives Ukrainians more equipment, Russia states its giving Ukrainian forces supplies to "take dangerous steps" that will be suppressed.
- January 2022: Britian starts giving Ukraine anti armor defenses, Russians arrive in Belarus for training and preparation
- Biden says an invasion would be the biggest threat to world peace since WWII.
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I'm not entirely sure how Biden thinks getting us into an armed conflict in Eastern Europe is going to help his poll numbers. Most polls I have seen shows most American's are not in favor of getting involved, plus everything he does will remind everyone of his incompetence in Afghanistan.
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When Army units start deploying. Navy/Marines are mobile enough to move fighting forces in and out with a few days notice, but the Army is a lot more time consuming and expensive to move around. They have a shitload of people and a shitload of equipment, so dedicating the resources to put them somewhere they aren't is usually pretty telling.
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"Well, it worked for Dubya."
I don't think its all him. He may put his thumb up on it, but he is being goaded on by a media that wants retribution after "Russia hacked the 2016 election to instill Putin's Puppit Drumphler" and the Military Industrial Complex, who wants a new grift to spend money on after Trump cut off Afganistan.
It's sadly all FUBAR with little chances of resolving quietly, especially since people want it to happen.
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Dubya also had a blank check written by the American people. He had total support after 9/11 to invade Afghanistan and it was also good enough to invade Iraq because Burgers were too stupid to understand that Saddam =/= Taliban. The only casus belli Biden "has" is to start a civil war and that's a blunder no matter what.
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How exactly did Russia manage to pull that off with practically no response from the west. Wasn't that Sudetenland annexation 2.0?
My schizo theory now is that Joe needed all the troops out of Afghanistan ASAP to redeploy to the eastern front.
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Serious question: how many PMCs would take that contract? Shooting backwards joggers and ragheads is one thing, but how do they plan on getting paid if their actions are answered with the spetznaz? They might work as bodyguards or for some secret squirrel shit, but you can't fight a war with them
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Yes and no. The Russians created a fait accompli on the ground before the glowies even realized they were up to something. As far as I know, nobody's clear on how they did it. Guess the spooks were too busy trying to entrap downies to actually pay attention to what people they can't charge with process crimes we're doing.
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Good question. It depends on how much hazard pay they're getting and how much Soros bux Biden can use.
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