Jaron Seth Bloshinsky / Jazz Jennings / I Am Jazz - Puberty Blockers: Not Even Once

[Tasty Tatty]

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'How fucking dare you!'

That's an absolute Karen face.

"Excuse me, I'd like to talk with the manager of men, thank you."

 

[Muttnik]

Let me tell you, hanging out with guys is tons of fun and it's very easy if you have the same interests. It doesn't matter the gender or sexuality as long as you've got a good attitude and bring a sense of fun to the table.

Noah basically sat there and was waiting to be offended. There was zero effort to bro out with any of them.

 

[Troll Patrol]

Jesus Christ! Sander doesn't even know how to open a beer and the gay dude steps in and does it for him lol. Just when you think Sander can't get any more pathetic, he keeps delivering!

 

[OttoWest]

My current favorite theory is that he went for a couple weeks and then had a breakdown.

Autistic detective work (with a caveat that dates of IG posts are not necessarily synonymous with real life events):

Spoiler

Move-in Weekend for Harvard was Aug 23-25, 2019.

There’s nothing about this on Jazz’s IG. Instead during this time he’s promoting a charity thing with Mead for back to school season and an appearance on some ABC reality show. The Mead stuff was shot at home in Florida:


Then an asspat post. Note Sander has commented on everything:

Then on Sept 7th, this post about taking it one step at a time, clearly shot in Florida:

Then another Mead promotion on Sept 12. I remember the discussion at the time was if this was shot at Harvard; and while there is no commercial photography allowed on campus, that doesn’t mean Jeanette didn’t sneak a shot:

Another promo for the family’s Purple Rainbow (wtf?) charity scam, shot at home in Florida:

End of the Mead promo on Sept 23:

“Time off” post on Oct 1:

I think they did go up there at some point and Jazz freaked, but the social media timeline doesn’t match up to move-in and classes starting, and no randos came forward exclaiming that omg Jazz is in my class/dorm or even on campus so I’m not sure he even made it that far.

 

[Sinner's Sandwich]

On a scale of one to Biden, how likely is it that Jazz has handlers/wranglers that are there to help him coast through college? I don't see how anyone who hasn't socialized since tenth grade could possibly be able to handle something as overstimulating as college.

He already has a medical team so I won't be surprised if that's also the case.
[insert joke about professional Amhole dilation assistant here]

 

[all4mom2]

Ting or Bowers? Bowers is the one who said “You could be a p.orn star with all the pictures we’ve taken.”

It was one of the doctors they interviewed but rejected because said doctor was honest with them about the situation, saying it would be very difficult/involve more than one surgery. Irony.

Bowers made the "porn star" comment after the surgery.

 

[Tasty Tatty]

If Jazz actually went to Harvard, even for a couple of days, and then he had to leave, then it makes absolute sense that they're asking for proof that he's now fine, more than some suicide attempt.

Griffen exudes smug shifty jew energy in their call with the secretary of education where they are lobbying for it be illegal to say mean words to trannies. I think Jazz confused it with the "take a shit anywhere I want" legislation. In any case, Griffen is like an evil Boromir, Sander is the lesser (but no less evil) brother Faramir.

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Griffen is the nega-Sander (and vice versa). Sander thinks not wearing a shirt makes him cool and fun, Griffen thinks that, by wearing it, he's cool and smart.

 

[No Batty Boys in Jamaica]

I'm curious how much of a factor those meds are with Jazz's increasing weight issues.

An anon on /tv/ thought he saw a seroquel pill when Jazz was taking his meds. Seroquel is a second gen antipsychotic that is notorious for causing rapid weight gain. It fucks with blood sugar and appetite. Also causes lethargy which does not help because that means fewer calories burned. Only thing is, I looked up seroquel pills and they're tiny. Pharmanon would have to have a good eye to pick it out. It's plausible though; the kinds of psychiatrists Jazz would be seeing would prescribe an antipsychotic off label as a sleep aid and to supplement an antidepressant (big pharma has even started marketing antipsychotics as antidepressant-augmentation under different brand names, because they know many depressed people would be hesitant to take pills for people who are *actually* crazy. Look up Rexulti to learn more).

I want to go with Occam's razor though and stick with the theory that his surgery caused the weight gain. Having all the flesh between your legs fucked up can make it painful to walk and even sit down. Pain causes depression. Depression causes eating unless it's an ana-chan. That being said, it happened so rapidly. Only time I've seen people balloon that bad were whores in high school who got diagnosed with bipolar 1 in senior year of HS/freshman year of college and blew up from the antipsychotics. Or the girl who got type 1 diabetes and actually took the proper amount of insulin instead of occasionally taking lower doses to lose weight like 99% of girls with T1D do. Most fat people get fat gradually due to fast food and sedentary jobs, except for 600lb life tier people who were always fat.

I haven't seen many other troons puff out, so perhaps there is something else at play. Fat troons are usually already fat and surgery doesn't change it.

 

[Behavioral Sink]

Jeanette continues to make me mad at the TV. There is no need to interfere in the grooming habits of a 21 year old. And if you do want to wax someone's legs, try watching a damn youtube tutorial first maybe. (I don't use the stuff, but know from the most casual of media exposure that she wasn't applying it well.) I agree with everyone who thinks that was purely because Jeanette enjoys causing Jazz pain and humiliation.

Raymond was a breath of fresh air. He seems so rational, caring, and grounded. While the ribbon thing may seem silly, it's the most thoughtful activity anyone has planned for poor Jazz. His family keeps arranging potato sack races, and skiing accidents. Raymond found a fun, gentle movement exercise more appropriate to Jazz's fitness level. He seems to have a much better approach to Jazz's mental health. And he was very careful but firm in telling Jeanette to back off. I really hope this guy is a real friend, not just a paid actor.

I wanted one of Sander's friends to ask Noah: "If trans men are men, why are you whining like a little bitch?"

 

[Putin Bot]

Only thing is, I looked up seroquel pills and they're tiny.

Seroquel pills are only tiny if they're 25mg or 50mg. Once you get to 100mg and over, the pills start to become bigger. And if those tiny pills are seroquel, then the side effects are minimum. Doctors prescribe Seroquel in 25mg to 50mg for patients to help with sleep, and I've never heard of those people complaining about side effects, except for maybe the first two weeks where they're still adjusting to it and wake up groggy in the morning.

If I could see the picture of the pills, I could more easily say what mg they are, and whether they're the immediate release or the extended. As I've said, there is a huge difference between IR and XR in terms of side effects. Though it's also possible that he's on both kinds. It's not unheard of for a patient to take both types, but I think that it's very uncommon nowadays. It's possible Jazz could take a low dose immediate release in the morning, then take the XR at night (what better way to keep him drugged up). But this is just pure speculation, and just from my knowledge of seroquel and how it's used.

 

[Gussielove]

Be honest, did ANY of us notice before the show pointed it out?


But vocalising that pain would mean more surgery.

Sometimes it's easier to complain about small pains when you're hiding the big ones.

If she stops dilating and let's it all just heal, does she risk impairing her ability to pee? Would scar tissue overwhelm the urinary opening?

 

[Dolomite]

In any case, Griffen is like an evil Boromir, Sander is the lesser (but no less evil) brother Faramir.

At least Faramir gets redeemed. I don't see that happening with Sander anytime soon.

 

[Gussielove]

Jeanette continues to make me mad at the TV. There is no need to interfere in the grooming habits of a 21 year old. And if you do want to wax someone's legs, try watching a damn youtube tutorial first maybe. (I don't use the stuff, but know from the most casual of media exposure that she wasn't applying it well.) I agree with everyone who thinks that was purely because Jeanette enjoys causing Jazz pain and humiliation.

Raymond was a breath of fresh air. He seems so rational, caring, and grounded. While the ribbon thing may seem silly, it's the most thoughtful activity anyone has planned for poor Jazz. His family keeps arranging potato sack races, and skiing accidents. Raymond found a fun, gentle movement exercise more appropriate to Jazz's fitness level. He seems to have a much better approach to Jazz's mental health. And he was very careful but firm in telling Jeanette to back off. I really hope this guy is a real friend, not just a paid actor.

I wanted one of Sander's friends to ask Noah: "If trans men are men, why are you whining like a little bitch?"

Raymond told Jeanette she should book a return flight, with the caveat, "you can always change it", which she would and which she would turn into a major drama... "Jazz is oversleeping, so I am having to change my plane ticket again!". What was the point of that?

An anon on /tv/ thought he saw a seroquel pill when Jazz was taking his meds. Seroquel is a second gen antipsychotic that is notorious for causing rapid weight gain. It fucks with blood sugar and appetite. Also causes lethargy which does not help because that means fewer calories burned. Only thing is, I looked up seroquel pills and they're tiny. Pharmanon would have to have a good eye to pick it out. It's plausible though; the kinds of psychiatrists Jazz would be seeing would prescribe an antipsychotic off label as a sleep aid and to supplement an antidepressant (big pharma has even started marketing antipsychotics as antidepressant-augmentation under different brand names, because they know many depressed people would be hesitant to take pills for people who are *actually* crazy. Look up Rexulti to learn more).

I want to go with Occam's razor though and stick with the theory that his surgery caused the weight gain. Having all the flesh between your legs fucked up can make it painful to walk and even sit down. Pain causes depression. Depression causes eating unless it's an ana-chan. That being said, it happened so rapidly. Only time I've seen people balloon that bad were whores in high school who got diagnosed with bipolar 1 in senior year of HS/freshman year of college and blew up from the antipsychotics. Or the girl who got type 1 diabetes and actually took the proper amount of insulin instead of occasionally taking lower doses to lose weight like 99% of girls with T1D do. Most fat people get fat gradually due to fast food and sedentary jobs, except for 600lb life tier people who were always fat.

I haven't seen many other troons puff out, so perhaps there is something else at play. Fat troons are usually already fat and surgery doesn't change it.

At high doses seroquel is used as an antipsychotic, but it is actually classified as an antihistamine. Maybe at low doses? It is a powerful sleep inducer and would account for Jazz not being able to wake up. The scarier thing, though, is that aside from the almost universal weight gain patients experience, it causes long QT syndrome. Your heart gets weaker. You have less stamina.

 

[Julius Rosa]

If she stops dilating and let's it all just heal, does she risk impairing her ability to pee? Would scar tissue overwhelm the urinary opening?

My recollection in hearing discussions of this is that, if it closes up, it will create pockets of pus and necrotic tissue (leaking, smelly, painful, dangerous). So it isn't easy to just say f it, let the thing heal up, he would actually have to get another surgery to have the attempts at a "lining" removed so it can heal cleanly.

 

[RamblinRosie]

Raymond told Jeanette she should book a return flight, with the caveat, "you can always change it", which she would and which she would turn into a major drama... "Jazz is oversleeping, so I am having to change my plane ticket again!". What was the point of that?

I don't understand why we still treat "one way tickets" as some immutable life sentence. Like. You can just buy another one-way ticket back to Fl.

 

[sperginity]

My recollection in hearing discussions of this is that, if it closes up, it will create pockets of pus and necrotic tissue (leaking, smelly, painful, dangerous). So it isn't easy to just say f it, let the thing heal up, he would actually have to get another surgery to have the attempts at a "lining" removed so it can heal cleanly.

most things heal from the inside out (or the bottom up, however you want to think of it). Healing works best where there is better blood supply so it makes sense for it to happen deeper in the body and then outward. that seems to be the way it usually works with neovaginas as well. There are patients that have narrowing at the opening first and they run the risk of such a problem, but I haven't run into it in the SRS horrors thread.

when healing doesn't occur that way, it tends to take longer, and there tends to be extra scar created when whatever materials are inside are encapsulated by the body. It does not always result in a serious problem, but depending on what is inside a neovagina it really could. most of them have bacteria that is native to their assholes, which could cause problems when encapsulated.

The standard of care for large abscesses is to get the pus out, and pack the space with a long piece of gauze, with a little bit sticking out as a wick to get stuff to exude out. it has to be repacked by a wound care nurse at regular intervals until its smaller than a certain diameter. this is painful AF and has recently been rethought as the standard. there are some studies that show that fucking with it poses an equal or perhaps a greater threat than letting it possibly encapsulate, apparently it doesn't tend to encapsulate very often once it has been lanced.

 

[Law]

If she stops dilating and let's it all just heal, does she risk impairing her ability to pee? Would scar tissue overwhelm the urinary opening?

I think that the urethra is placed in front of and over the amhole. I don't think the surgeons are demented enough to make their patients pee out of the amhole. The amhole doesn't have any function besides getting dilators, dicks (optimistic), and douches shoved into it.
I hope that Jazz and other men who had this procedure can let their amholes heal without urination problems.

The comment about a one-way plane ticket being some sort of immutable life sentence got me thinking. Jeanette seems to be obsessed with permanence. If she buys a one-way ticket somewhere she's there forever! If Jazz's rot-pocket heals he's ruined forever! If he can't go to Harvard college ceases to exist! There is no plan B! Is this just black-and-white thinking stemming from her ill mind? Is it a manifestation of her control freak tendencies?
Jeanette really is quite insane.

 

[Thomas Eugene Paris]

no randos came forward exclaiming that omg Jazz is in my class/dorm or even on campus so I’m not sure he even made it that far.

This is a very interesting observation. In my experience, dormitory and roommate assignments are made well before move in day. Especially for freshmen, it's a good way to let students who may be uncertain or apprehensive get to know at least a few people before the academic year begins, as well as facilitating communication about who will bring what to share with roommates. I was a college student approximately one geologic age ago, and our dormitory assignments were made in the spring of our senior year of high school. Surely, if Jazz had actually intended to matriculate, he would have been assigned to a dormitory at the very least.

I don't even know if Harvard has traditional style two-person dormitory rooms. From my limited knowledge, they place freshmen in an apartment style "pod", with separate individual sleeping quarters clustered around a common living space shared by 4-5 people, possibly of mixed sex. I don't know if we have any alums of The College who can elaborate further.

It's interesting that nobody appears to have posted on Jazz's social media to say, "Hey, we're roommates!" or anything.

 

[OttoWest]

If she stops dilating and let's it all just heal, does she risk impairing her ability to pee? Would scar tissue overwhelm the urinary opening?

One of Jaron’s revision surgery involved attempting to remove excess erectile tissue. The tissue was putting pressure on the urethra causing Jaron’s piss stream to shoot upwards and outwards rather than down.

Phallo-having FTMs seem to have more issues with urination due to the length and placement of female urethras. Pretty much every phallo patient in the SRS horror shows thread has complained about something going wrong with her urethra post-op.

 

[Julius Rosa]

It's interesting that nobody appears to have posted on Jazz's social media to say, "Hey, we're roommates!" or anything.

At the end of season 6, when he was originally going to college, he talked to the camera about arranging for a single room so that he could have privacy for dilation. I have to imagine that the same is true this year.