TGWTG Linkara / Lewis Lovhaug - HMMMMMMM? (Dead Gay Muppet Gangbang)

[Phil Ken Sebben]

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Well that looks like actual shit.

You can buy a skull prop online for less then $15 which would work. But Lewis prides himself on making his own props.

 

[Josterman]

Well that looks like actual shit.

You can buy a skull prop online for less then $15 which would work. But Lewis prides himself on making his own props.

god only wonders how he makes costumes as well

 

[Random Internet Person]

Well that looks like actual shit.

You can buy a skull prop online for less then $15 which would work. But Lewis prides himself on making his own props.

Are you saying he shouldn’t?

 

[Phil Ken Sebben]

Are you saying he shouldn’t?

Take a look at that skull and tell me again. This is what I expect from somebody in a high school production where the prop is far enough away that you can't see all the faults. This is going to be close up on camera.

He says "Indie horror". I see crap.

god only wonders how he makes costumes as well

I thought he bought those and maybe modded them.

 

[The tired cat]

I thought he bought those and maybe modded them.

You'd be correct. On a few occasions he apparently had to modify the costumes because they weren't his size.

 

[Random Internet Person]

Take a look at that skull and tell me again. This is what I expect from somebody in a high school production where the prop is far enough away that you can't see all the faults. This is going to be close up on camera.

He says "Indie horror". I see crap.

Skull looks cartoony. Like the head of a skeleton mascot.

 

[MisterBee]

You'd be correct. On a few occasions he apparently had to modify the costumes because they weren't his size.

 

[Adamska]

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Now I don't claim to be a great sfx artist, so let me muse on how expensive this idiot decision was to the best of my ability.

So Lewis bought several batches of $2.50 pantyhose and a cheap and rubbish fake skull, likely the 13 dollar one. I can't figure out what the skull model is, but it has pre-painted black eyes. Now, I don't know what the fuck he was thinking when he lacquered on those pantyhose layers, unless he was trying to go for skin.

If he was trying to go for a mummy; then he fucked up. Mummies' skin usually blackens due to how they're preserved. Also they look a hell of a lot better preserved than that, they usually keep some of their nasal structure at minimum. He'd have done better using moldable clay with coloring dyes in it IMO, since he'd be able to make the nose and so on. It also wouldn't even be that much more expensive tbh.

Or if he just wanted an evil skull that bleeds, wire up some blood lines into this 15 buck mask. With competent lighting you can even hide that it's a mask at all.

But this is Lewis, so of course he's going to show it all as previously mentioned.

 

[Josterman]

Now I don't claim to be a great sfx artist, so let me muse on how expensive this idiot decision was to the best of my ability.

So Lewis bought several batches of $2.50 pantyhose and a cheap and rubbish fake skull, likely the 13 dollar one. I can't figure out what the skull model is, but it has pre-painted black eyes. Now, I don't know what the fuck he was thinking when he lacquered on those pantyhose layers, unless he was trying to go for skin.

If he was trying to go for a mummy; then he fucked up. Mummies' skin usually blackens due to how they're preserved. Also they look a hell of a lot better preserved than that, they usually keep some of their nasal structure at minimum. He'd have done better using moldable clay with coloring dyes in it IMO, since he'd be able to make the nose and so on. It also wouldn't even be that much more expensive tbh.

Or if he just wanted an evil skull that bleeds, wire up some blood lines into this 15 buck mask. With competent lighting you can even hide that it's a mask at all.

But this is Lewis, so of course he's going to show it all as previously mentioned.

but course he is not

 

[MisterBee]

Now I don't claim to be a great sfx artist, so let me muse on how expensive this idiot decision was to the best of my ability.

So Lewis bought several batches of $2.50 pantyhose and a cheap and rubbish fake skull, likely the 13 dollar one. I can't figure out what the skull model is, but it has pre-painted black eyes. Now, I don't know what the fuck he was thinking when he lacquered on those pantyhose layers, unless he was trying to go for skin.

If he was trying to go for a mummy; then he fucked up. Mummies' skin usually blackens due to how they're preserved. Also they look a hell of a lot better preserved than that, they usually keep some of their nasal structure at minimum. He'd have done better using moldable clay with coloring dyes in it IMO, since he'd be able to make the nose and so on. It also wouldn't even be that much more expensive tbh.

Or if he just wanted an evil skull that bleeds, wire up some blood lines into this 15 buck mask. With competent lighting you can even hide that it's a mask at all.

But this is Lewis, so of course he's going to show it all as previously mentioned.

Also, mummy bandages usually have some aging/yellowing/browning on it. Adam Savage has shown how to age things before on the cheap on his youtube channel for free. Literally that's the weirdest part of this; that info on how to handle prop making on the cheap has been available for years, but he's still doing stuff like a 13 year old trying to make a garage movie.

 

[Johnny Clyde Cash]

Hear me out, but given the material he's working with, I'd say he's actually putting too much effort into the prop.

I had no idea what 'Lost Skeleton of Cadavra' was and just assumed it was an old B-movie, so I looked it up, and it's a B-movie parody movie from 2001.

Basically it's a parody of Manos: The Hands of Fate, Plan 9 from Outer Space, or any number of shlocky horror movies that would end up on MST3K. I watched through the trailer and my overwhelming reaction was "...okay?" You got a bunch of people together and made a deliberately cheesy B-movie with flat line delivery, flat camerawork, and goofy looking props, all 'shot' in black and white. Hooray?

The problem is that what made those original movies so funny is that the film makers were really trying to make serious films. As RLM have said dozens of times, earnestness is the secret ingredient behind So Bad They're Good movies. Without it you just have a bunch of people deliberately wasting your time.

And that's just the original movie. Lewis is making a FANFILM based on that. So it's another layer of low-effort film making on top of the original one. While I don't think being deliberately low-effort is good humor, if you wanted to nail the premise, you should have gone so hilariously low-effort that it came back around to be funny again. I'm talking 'the guy is literally just wrapped in toilet paper and the layers don't even cover him properly' levels of not even trying. It would certainly make more sense for what he's doing than anything resembling a photo-realistic prop, which seems to be what he's at least attempting.

I don't know. All the layers of irony are fucking with my brain. Just try making something deliberately good for once bro.

 

[indigoisviolet]

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You touch one tranny dick and the next thing you know you're a serial killer taunting the police on social media.

 

[MisterBee]

Hear me out, but given the material he's working with, I'd say he's actually putting too much effort into the prop.

I had no idea what 'Lost Skeleton of Cadavra' was and just assumed it was an old B-movie, so I looked it up, and it's a B-movie parody movie from 2001.

Basically it's a parody of Manos: The Hands of Fate, Plan 9 from Outer Space, or any number of shlocky horror movies that would end up on MST3K. I watched through the trailer and my overwhelming reaction was "...okay?" You got a bunch of people together and made a deliberately cheesy B-movie with flat line delivery, flat camerawork, and goofy looking props, all 'shot' in black and white. Hooray?

The problem is that what made those original movies so funny is that the film makers were really trying to make serious films. As RLM have said dozens of times, earnestness is the secret ingredient behind So Bad They're Good movies. Without it you just have a bunch of people deliberately wasting your time.

And that's just the original movie. Lewis is making a FANFILM based on that. So it's another layer of low-effort film making on top of the original one. While I don't think being deliberately low-effort is good humor, if you wanted to nail the premise, you should have gone so hilariously low-effort that it came back around to be funny again. I'm talking 'the guy is literally just wrapped in toilet paper and the layers don't even cover him properly' levels of not even trying. It would certainly make more sense for what he's doing than anything resembling a photo-realistic prop, which seems to be what he's at least attempting.

I don't know. All the layers of irony are fucking with my brain. Just try making something deliberately good for once bro.

A part of it is effort, and I think saying 'low effort' isn't accurate. 'Misplaced effort' is more truthful. Like 'The Giant Claw' looks just plain bad. But someone spent time making the thing. There was legit effort, and legit attempts to make something with the limited budgets and effects of the time. Despite everything else, you laugh because it's bad, but you respect because you know some propmaker spent a weekend painstakingly making the Giant Claw.

Like look at Manos. The Master's cloak with the hands motif. You can't say that was truly 'low effort'. Someone spent a weekend making it, and it does what it was intended to do; look like hands on a cloak. Lewis is a different beast. He spends no effort and expects the same love. Like with the 'robot skeleton' Mechakara from his movie. He honestly thought the door open reveal would have the rest of his contributors shitting their pants at him spraypainting a science class skeleton model and propping it up. They laughed and he was pissed.

 

[Josterman]

You touch one tranny dick and the next thing you know you're a serial killer taunting the police on social media.

It puts the lotion in the basket

 

[Adamska]

Hear me out, but given the material he's working with, I'd say he's actually putting too much effort into the prop.

I had no idea what 'Lost Skeleton of Cadavra' was and just assumed it was an old B-movie, so I looked it up, and it's a B-movie parody movie from 2001.

Basically it's a parody of Manos: The Hands of Fate, Plan 9 from Outer Space, or any number of shlocky horror movies that would end up on MST3K. I watched through the trailer and my overwhelming reaction was "...okay?" You got a bunch of people together and made a deliberately cheesy B-movie with flat line delivery, flat camerawork, and goofy looking props, all 'shot' in black and white. Hooray?

They're even shittier than a B-movie, since rather than actually make one shitpost film about a specific type of B-movie, they inserted as many as they humanly could instead since they know they have even less talent than people like Wood and Corman. There was no way they had the patience or ability to actually write a 75 - 90 minute script of one bad movie, so they did this to hide that fact.

The problem is that what made those original movies so funny is that the film makers were really trying to make serious films. As RLM have said dozens of times, earnestness is the secret ingredient behind So Bad They're Good movies. Without it you just have a bunch of people deliberately wasting your time.

And that's another issue; they couldn't be arsed to find period film cameras, and they don't bother to have the actors try in any of these fucking scenes I saw. They are hiding their incompetence behind post-ironic snark, just like Lewis.

Also like the RLM crew since they were too bitchmade to try and seriously film Space Cop. Love 'em, but that fucked their film IMO.

And that's just the original movie. Lewis is making a FANFILM based on that. So it's another layer of low-effort film making on top of the original one. While I don't think being deliberately low-effort is good humor, if you wanted to nail the premise, you should have gone so hilariously low-effort that it came back around to be funny again. I'm talking 'the guy is literally just wrapped in toilet paper and the layers don't even cover him properly' levels of not even trying. It would certainly make more sense for what he's doing than anything resembling a photo-realistic prop, which seems to be what he's at least attempting.

I don't know. All the layers of irony are fucking with my brain. Just try making something deliberately good for once bro.

It also doesn't help that the skeleton prop in that bad film still looked better and had an iota more effort.

Lewis is lazier and more delusional than those fucks were.

 

[Johnny Clyde Cash]

A part of it is effort, and I think saying 'low effort' isn't accurate. 'Misplaced effort' is more truthful. Like 'The Giant Claw' looks just plain bad. But someone spent time making the thing. There was legit effort, and legit attempts to make something with the limited budgets and effects of the time. Despite everything else, you laugh because it's bad, but you respect because you know some propmaker spent a weekend painstakingly making the Giant Claw.

Like look at Manos. The Master's cloak with the hands motif. You can't say that was truly 'low effort'. Someone spent a weekend making it, and it does what it was intended to do; look like hands on a cloak. Lewis is a different beast. He spends no effort and expects the same love. Like with the 'robot skeleton' Mechakara from his movie. He honestly thought the door open reveal would have the rest of his contributors shitting their pants at him spraypainting a science class skeleton model and propping it up. They laughed and he was pissed.

'Misplaced effort' is a really good clarification, because almost all Hollywood props look pretty fake and stupid when they're not filmed correctly. If you don't know how to hide the metaphorical (sometimes literal) seams of your props and costumes through lighting, cinematography and editing, then even the best props in the world will still look like trash.

I think that's another fun part of B movies, is seeing the 'town coming together' around the movie, even if it does end up a giant turd. It's more fun seeing the variability in quality rather than just seeing one guy lazily go through all of the steps themselves with no real flair behind it because they just want to skip to the part where they get credit for doing everything.

 

[MisterBee]

'Misplaced effort' is a really good clarification, because almost all Hollywood props look pretty fake and stupid when they're not filmed correctly. If you don't know how to hide the metaphorical (sometimes literal) seams of your props and costumes through lighting, cinematography and editing, then even the best props in the world will still look like trash.

Look at Lewis's movie. The 'walls' of his spaceship looked flat and like he had a pattern painted/printed on flat particle board. Production photos showed that the walls were heavily textured with lots of details. Because of Lewis's subpar cinematography and lighting, the walls looked like shit. He still spent over $10k on those walls BTW.

I think that's another fun part of B movies, is seeing the 'town coming together' around the movie, even if it does end up a giant turd. It's more fun seeing the variability in quality rather than just seeing one guy lazily go through all of the steps themselves with no real flair behind it because they just want to skip to the part where they get credit for doing everything.

'Town coming together' really embodies it. Rarely, but it is known, where the cumulative effort rises above any individual part. Lewis's productions will never do that, because as much as he crows about being collaborative, as the leakers revealed, his other contributors think he's a nightmare director.

 

[Random Internet Person]

 

[Josterman]

Oh god they even work worse

 

[Common Shadow]

Fuck, it's The Curious Case of Benjamin Glutton. I can only imagine his diet and lifestyle, but I might puke all over the place if I think about it even a little.