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[Vesperus]

If this was real (hopefully not) then I would trust nobody. Just saying.

Man reduces women to sex organs, gets a stiffy. Film at 11.

 

[Mellow Malevolent]

Real talk, if there was magic surgery that actually implanted a fully working vagina with nerve endings, a womb etc. into a man or magic surgery to give women a cock with working testes that produce sperm etc. then I wouldn't have as big of an issue with the transitioning siutuation.

It's the fact that women get this non functioning meat sausage that can't handle penetration and men can get this fleshwound that can't take anything other than a dilator that horrifies me. How could anyone look at those abomnations and tell me that they're ok and a representation of their designated gender?

If biotech ever gets to this point then social mores will shift radically, and I doubt difference between the sexes will matter at all. To make something like that work, you'd have to go much further than just growing an organ (already basically an impossibility for us, even more basic ones like livers that are just undifferentiated cells are very experimental right now). You'd have to figure out how to integrate it into the nervous system, the vascular system, make changes to the endocrine system so hormonal effects don't destroy it or react with it, etc, which would involve a level of detail within the brain that wholly escapes us right now. At that level of plasticity with the human body, you're basically at full cyberpunk fantasy. You may as well just grow humans in test tubes and do away with sex entirely, and give everyone extra arms and dragon wings while you're at it. It's more like a successor species to humans being speculated on than anything relevant to society today.

 

[Allo Vera]

The joys of r/sex
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“What differences will I most likely have to keep in mind?”

Penis, dude. A penis.

Does anyone else think this was posted by a tranny? I just can’t imagine a so-called heterosexual man going on dates with a “girl” and not realising she’s a man until she drops the bombshell… and then still wanting to have sex with her. That’s just pure troon fantasy.

 

[Vesperus]

If biotech ever gets to this point then social mores will shift radically, and I doubt difference between the sexes will matter at all. To make something like that work, you'd have to go much further than just growing an organ (already basically an impossibility for us, even more basic ones like livers that are just undifferentiated cells are very experimental right now). You'd have to figure out how to integrate it into the nervous system, the vascular system, make changes to the endocrine system so hormonal effects don't destroy it or react with it, etc, which would involve a level of detail within the brain that wholly escapes us right now. At that level of plasticity with the human body, you're basically at full cyberpunk fantasy. You may as well just grow humans in test tubes and do away with sex entirely, and give everyone extra arms and dragon wings while you're at it. It's more like a successor species to humans being speculated on than anything relevant to society today.

The vascular system could be possibly be plumbed, and I'll assume we can do the endocrine thing eventually, but there is no way on God's Green Earth we are connecting the thousands upon thousands of nerves in a clitoris into a male brain (which, let's be honest chaps, has a single USB port labelled "cock").

At this point we're down to sapient AI as the easiest way to troon out.

 

[Retired Junta Member]

“What differences will I most likely have to keep in mind?”

Penis, dude. A penis.

Does anyone else think this was posted by a tranny? I just can’t imagine a so-called heterosexual man going on dates with a “girl” and not realising she’s a man until she drops the bombshell… and then still wanting to have sex with her. That’s just pure troon fantasy.

the fact that Op keeps repeating how much they don’t care and are chill with it is what sells the whole situation as fake imho.

 

[smug comporon]

You know what would be a giveaway if this story was true in the slightest? The way they dress. Every troon universally decided to dress in the most hideous way possible and it's honestly incredible.

 

[Mellow Malevolent]

I disagree with you. And in fact this kind of mentality of essentialism and the believe that 'life has only one set path and you can only be one thing that you're expected to be since childhood' is pretty harmful in other way. And sometimes 'circumstance' is partly self willed.

What you're saying, also means that everyone who has bad childhood is ruined for life because of the circumstances they couldn't control. I meant, the experiences will always be there... But you can also become 'someone else', not in the tranny way though, but a genuine personal development.

The idea that someone needs to be 'strictly something' is, in my opinion, what causes many troons in the first place. Many were once kids that were gender non-conforming or going to be gay but we're told they're failed male/female and decided to the double down the controlz the expectations.

Life is chaotic, and seemingly impossible things can happen. The poor can become rich and vice versa... But sadly making dick into vagina is really not possible... Sorry trannies.

The issue is that "belonging" is a social and cultural phenomena, not based on what your body looks like. Troons are trying to force entry into communities by a weird type of mimicry, almost like cuckoo in a nest. I think the easiest example is probably Indigenous heritage versus belonging to a registered tribe/first nation. In Canada, there are plenty of people who share a substantial amount of their genetic material with the indigenous peoples of the continent, but that doesn't make them kin in a cultural or social sense with the Indigenous nations who share their genetic ancestry. It's active identification by the in group that confers identity, not slapping on makeup to look indigenous or claiming you have some genetic link (see Warren).

In fact, in regards to sex, there's plenty of cases in history where women in particular were accepted as honorary men, due to purely cultural reasons, which is literally what an actual "trans" identity would be. Hatshepsut is depicted with a beard because it was a masculine symbol of power, and her role as pharaoh conferred on her honorary manhood. The Saudis still do this for any female head of state or high ranking dignitary that comes to visit them, they grant them honorary man status (see my previous post re: special positions and strict gender roles).

The reverse I think you'd find to be much more rare, because the feminine was so often considered inferior to the masculine in many societies, so you usually ended up with third categories, but despite how misogynistic gay men can be, I'd say the fact that gay men and straight women are also very often very close friends in a way women usually aren't with straight men is, in a sense, showing that belonging to the imagined community of "womanhood" does happen, when it's based on a strong relationship and mutual respect. MTF Trannies are literally trying to brute force their way into being accepted in the "woman" community, by arguing that being a eunuch makes them a woman and that the actual members of that community don't get a say in deciding whether they get included.

Sort of in keeping with the transracial backlash, for some reason, womanhood is the only case where society is perfectly willing to let the outsiders barge in. As this thread has demonstrated well I think, nobody is super worried about the FTMs. They're a joke, the community of men is really not accepting them, and in terms of sports and washrooms and everything other sex segregated space, they are the ones most at risk. So yes, it's once again women who are disadvantaged... I wonder why... hmmm....

 

[Vesperus]

I disagree with you. And in fact this kind of mentality of essentialism and the believe that 'life has only one set path and you can only be one thing that you're expected to be since childhood' is pretty harmful in other way. And sometimes 'circumstance' is partly self willed.

What you're saying, also means that everyone who has bad childhood is ruined for life because of the circumstances they couldn't control. I meant, the experiences will always be there... But you can also become 'someone else', not in the tranny way though, but a genuine personal development.

The idea that someone needs to be 'strictly something' is, in my opinion, what causes many troons in the first place. Many were once kids that were gender non-conforming or going to be gay but we're told they're failed male/female and decided to the double down the controlz the expectations.

Life is chaotic, and seemingly impossible things can happen. The poor can become rich and vice versa... But sadly making dick into vagina is really not possible... Sorry trannies.

No, people who have a bad childhood with a cock can have great adulthood with a cock. Look at Edward Barnard, who basically grew up in mud and became one the most respected astromomers in American history. But he still had a cock.

It wouldn't matter if he beat his cock like a piñata and scooped it out like an ice-cream sundae, he is/was always a bloke with a cock.

Speaking of humble beginnings, I once met CERN physicist Prof. Brian Cox (CBE, FRS) . At the time he was playing keyboard for D:Ream, and I think I threw a pint of lager at him.

 

[Surfin Terf]

Real talk, if there was magic surgery that actually implanted a fully working vagina with nerve endings, a womb etc. into a man or magic surgery to give women a cock with working testes that produce sperm etc. then I wouldn't have as big of an issue with the transitioning siutuation.

It's the fact that women get this non functioning meat sausage that can't handle penetration and men can get this fleshwound that can't take anything other than a dilator that horrifies me. How could anyone look at those abomnations and tell me that they're ok and a representation of their designated gender?

I thought about this quite a bit, and to be honest even if there were skeletal feminization (somehow) and completely functional reproductive organs including breasts/uterus/testicles etc could be attached to a person, the fact of the matter is you can't change who a person is through surgery.

Suppose for a minute that I'm some white guy who spent his life in an upper class environment, went to private school, took piano lessons etc. and one day I get self-conscious cause a bunch of people make fun of me for being sheltered, so I go get gang tattoos, I pay some gang to to tell people I'm a member, hell I even start carrying a gun around and threatening people with it.

Does that change anything about where I'm from? Even if I could completely convince people I really am from the streets nothing I wear, say or do is a signifier of where I come from, it's only a costume of who I'd like people to see me as. Even if I did start getting into gang conflicts/selling drugs etc it would be the actions of a tourist and not someone who was forced by circumstance into that role.

In that same way "passing" is irrelevant to me. If you were socialized as a man and your life was lived that way, it doesn't go away because you act out some stereotype of womanhood.

Maybe I'm wrong, but with the prevalence of social media there seems to be a lot of people who've become so preoccupied with the image they present they have to tell everyone what to think of them, instead of just accepting that some anxiety over how you're being seen by others is totally natural. In that sense I can't help but feel wanting to be seen as a woman stems from the same sort of obsession that drives influencers, fitness/finance gurus, etc.

I think that pretty much everyone in this thread at this point fully believes that TiMs aren't women and TiFs aren't men. But let's just imagine that medicine or society or whatever developed to the point that we mostly did believe that men could become women and women could become men. No matter how we reached that point, I think we can all agree that a person can disagree with that premise and still be a reasonable person. Hell, even if we all absolutely believed that transwomen are women and transmen are men and that anything short of that was a fringe idea, it still wouldn't preclude anyone who held it from being a respectable person as long as they at least didn't go out of their way to discriminate against trans people.

That's how gay rights works. I don't have to believe that lesbians actually are attracted to women. I can believe that gay guys are faking it. As long as I a) don't discriminate against gay people b) don't aggressively push my crackpot beliefs then no one really should care. All I need to do is treat them the way that I would treat a straight person, I don't have to believe that they really like fucking their same-sex spouse but that is legally their spouse regardless. Gay rights don't include a right to validation from me. Neither do black rights, Jewish rights, or any of these rights. I can think that these people are all faking it and don't really exist, but other than not discriminating against them they don't necessarily need anything from me.

Trans rights activism is the only one that requires me to believe (or at least pretend that I believe) that transwomen are women and transmen are men. In NYC I can be fined for using the "wrong" pronouns; it would be crazy enough if I could be punished for "misgendering" someone to their face, but these pronouns are always third person so my language is being policed even if they don't hear it. It's hard to think of how gay rights could even potentially reach this level of intrusiveness.

And really, that's why we make fun of trannies here. Not because we disagree about their sex (or at least not solely because of that) but because they're all-around lunatics. The (incredibly rare) down-to-earth tranny who dresses like a man/woman of their age and is otherwise normal will at worst have an unflattering selfie of them posted in this thread with a couple mocking comments. They're still crazy, but not really worth mentioning.

 

[TekTruck]

I found this interesting tidbit about Meg. She is also a really big fan of Schuyler Bailar, I wonder if these two would do a collab one day.
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This is from an interview she gave for Popsugar back in june 2021.
Speaking of Bailar, she came with a new post defending trannies in sport. Oh boy this is going to be a shit show
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Love how she included woman beater Fallon Fox and penis waver Lia Thomas in the picture. Plus that nigga with the 2905 tank top doesn't even look in any shape or form like a woman. He looks like a man, just look at his muscle build ffs. He doesn't even try.
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I love how she brings these serious issues yet he doesn't see the problem with at least 2 of them in the picture, Fallon Fox broke a woman's skull and Lia is a fucking cunt who doesn't give a shit about women. Don't these problems enter in the misogyny category?
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Love how you can't apply this retarded logic to other issues. Imagine if instead of "YOU AREN'T AN EXPERT NOR AFFECTED BY THIS ISSUE". I ain't a woman but I can say for sure a man beating a woman in domestic violence is a bad thing, I ain't affected nor an expert on domestic violence but is just common sense. The reason why people are jumping so much on the issue of trannies joining woman categories in sports is that the have an unfair fucking advantage. I can be seen clear as day, dimwit. Also grammar correction ching chong but it's " a trans woman" not women.
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Lia Thomas set record after record in the women category, it is enough proof that the rules and regulations need to change and exclude trannies from sports, forever. Just because they didn't won any Olympic medals is a dumb point. Trannies were allowed in the Olympics because of the fact that the facts at the time were different, 2003 was a long ass time ago, science evolves and changes, but it seems not in the benefit for you, Bailar. It is known to any dipshit at this point that men, no matter what, are on average stronger than women.
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Well Bailar, expect the stats above to go way higher once you let even more trannies in. The women in Lia Thomas' team are already increasing that mental health stat, almost a lot of them have some form of depression at this point. Also the injuries one once you let more trans women in combat sports.
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Of course, she has to include an educational segment. I'm sorry biological woman Bailar, I'm never going to address you as a woman pretending to be a men ever again.
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I like how she acts as aww it's ok you little transphobes and TERFs, Bailar is here to teach you how to be a good trans ally, here join my reeducation concentration camp I mean read these trans resources to be more educated.
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No comment at this point, this dumbass thinks she is doing something really smart here. Man I can't stand this troon, she really is an insufferable, annoying and downright evil. She really is a cunt at this point, she doesn't care, she has enough money to keep going with this nonsesnse till the end of time. And even worse she probably can succed at letting even more trannies in sports because of the money she has.

Notice the absence of trans men, I wonder why?

 

[ShitInMyMouth]

The joys of r/sex
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What part of "fuck the dude in the dress in the arse" does he not understand?

 

[Mellow Malevolent]

The vascular system could be possibly be plumbed, and I'll assume we can do the endocrine thing eventually, but there is no way on God's Green Earth we are connecting the thousands upon thousands of nerves in a clitoris into a male brain (which, let's be honest chaps, has a single USB port labelled "cock").

At this point we're down to sapient AI as the easiest way to troon out.

It would be interesting if we did find ways to modify hormone production to mimic the opposite sex though, because it we actually managed to get it so that it wasn't the very crude mechanism of a pill of one type or two types of sex hormones daily, i'd imagine you'd start seeing very weird and radical changes in behavior in unexpected ways. I'm sure the first trans people to sign up would find out very quickly that they had no fucking clue how much of their authentic identity was their actual sex manifesting in their neurotransmitters. It's the thing I find so absurd about HRT, is that the claim that it somehow relieves brainfog is like believing that dialysis is giving you a better outcome than your own kidneys do. The trans conception of hormones is reductive to the point of childishness.

I think that pretty much everyone in this thread at this point fully believes that TiMs aren't women and TiFs aren't men. But let's just imagine that medicine or society or whatever developed to the point that we mostly did believe that men could become women and women could become men. No matter how we reached that point, I think we can all agree that a person can disagree with that premise and still be a reasonable person. Hell, even if we all absolutely believed that transwomen are women and transmen are men and that anything short of that was a fringe idea, it still wouldn't preclude anyone who held it from being a respectable person as long as they at least didn't go out of their way to discriminate against trans people.

That's how gay rights works. I don't have to believe that lesbians actually are attracted to women. I can believe that gay guys are faking it. As long as I a) don't discriminate against gay people b) don't aggressively push my crackpot beliefs then no one really should care. All I need to do is treat them the way that I would treat a straight person, I don't have to believe that they really like fucking their same-sex spouse but that is legally their spouse regardless. Gay rights don't include a right to validation from me. Neither do black rights, Jewish rights, or any of these rights. I can think that these people are all faking it and don't really exist, but other than not discriminating against them they don't necessarily need anything from me.

Trans rights activism is the only one that requires me to believe (or at least pretend that I believe) that transwomen are women and transmen are men. In NYC I can be fined for using the "wrong" pronouns; it would be crazy enough if I could be punished for "misgendering" someone to their face, but these pronouns are always third person so my language is being policed even if they don't hear it. It's hard to think of how gay rights could even potentially reach this level of intrusiveness.

And really, that's why we make fun of trannies here. Not because we disagree about their sex (or at least not solely because of that) but because they're all-around lunatics. The (incredibly rare) down-to-earth tranny who dresses like a man/woman of their age and is otherwise normal will at worst have an unflattering selfie of them posted in this thread with a couple mocking comments. They're still crazy, but not really worth mentioning.

Yeah, I've been trying to find a way to articulate this idea, but this is getting to the core of it. Trans people need validating and belonging from other communities as a core premise of their "rights". If you think about a neutral rights framework, it would state non-discriminations in cases where there's not compelling societal interest (ie women's sports), and formal equality before the law. Troons are not asking for that. They aren't asking to remove the barrier to men entering women's sports, or desegregation of all sex segregated areas in society, they are specifically demanding that everyone else accept their self-definition of their identity, and treat them according to that.

E: Content:

It really doesn't matter how jacked the arms get, you can tell that trans men started as women. It's in the face most of all.

 

[Muggsy]

Yeah, I've been trying to find a way to articulate this idea, but this is getting to the core of it. Trans people need validating and belonging from other communities as a core premise of their "rights". If you think about a neutral rights framework, it would state non-discriminations in cases where there's not compelling societal interest (ie women's sports), and formal equality before the law. Troons are not asking for that. They aren't asking to remove the barrier to men entering women's sports, or desegregation of all sex segregated areas in society, they are specifically demanding that everyone else accept their self-definition of their identity, and treat them according to that.

Because trans acceptance is inherently difficult, moreso than gay acceptance as pointed out by the previous post. You could have an entire relationship with someone and never know anything about their partner or love life because those are inherently personal things - I'm sure I've had coworkers I never knew were gay, because there's no reason for it to ever come up. Gender is so outwardly present and well-defined that getting an entire society to look the other way on it is an extremely uphill battle because it factors into every aspect of culture - not just love, partnerships, sex and other personal closed-door matters but things as basic as language are now up for debate. It's one thing to redefine what marriage means to a culture, but now they're trying to redefine marriage, language, sports, workplace standards, childhood... all at once. This is what makes it so ridiculously over-the-top, and how it becomes very obvious that the issue is forced.

 

[Rampant Rat]

This is probably one of the worst
The usual suspects tell him autogynephilia isn't real:

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>AGP is pseudoscience even tho you and thousands of other men perfectly exhibit the pattern of behavior as described by Blanchard.
>Brain gender sex is real science, guys! A single study with very few participants said so! A proper scientist scanned dem brains and it proves that we are real women! Trans periods are reaaayul!

Somebody please tell me why they cannot accept that it's just a fetish, when they are so eager to highlight every other perverted behavior they indulge in?
Including, but not limited to;
• Diapers
• Sadism/Masochism
• Humiliation
• Furry
• Daddy/Mommy dom/Little girl
• Ageplay
• Hentai body pillows and figurines.
• Rape
• Force-feminization/Sissification
• Exhibitionism
• Voyeurism
Edit: • Lactation, how could I forget that one
(Lemme know if I missed anything, I feel like we need an AGP bingo card infographic)
Why draw the line at cross dressing?

Shitting yourself in a diaper with Disney princesses on is somehow ok but being a man who gets hard wearing lingerie?
"OH NO THAT'S JUST TOO DEGENERATE 4 ME. This is an authentic biological identity ya see my brain is female. Cis women get erect when they wear panties right?"

I've typed that out and it has dawned on me that they need to call it an identity because its the only way that they will be permitted to cross dress in public...
I suppose having the law cajole people into validating them just fuels them euphoria boners.
Forcing non-consenting people to view you indulge in a fetish and going so far as have children validate it...
Ya know what? It checks out

 

[changeyourdipe]

I found this interesting tidbit about Meg. She is also a really big fan of Schuyler Bailar, I wonder if these two would do a collab one day.
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This is from an interview she gave for Popsugar back in june 2021.
Speaking of Bailar, she came with a new post defending trannies in sport. Oh boy this is going to be a shit show
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Love how she included woman beater Fallon Fox and penis waver Lia Thomas in the picture. Plus that nigga with the 2905 tank top doesn't even look in any shape or form like a woman. He looks like a man, just look at his muscle build ffs. He doesn't even try.
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I love how she brings these serious issues yet he doesn't see the problem with at least 2 of them in the picture, Fallon Fox broke a woman's skull and Lia is a fucking cunt who doesn't give a shit about women. Don't these problems enter in the misogyny category?
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Love how you can't apply this retarded logic to other issues. Imagine if instead of "YOU AREN'T AN EXPERT NOR AFFECTED BY THIS ISSUE". I ain't a woman but I can say for sure a man beating a woman in domestic violence is a bad thing, I ain't affected nor an expert on domestic violence but is just common sense. The reason why people are jumping so much on the issue of trannies joining woman categories in sports is that the have an unfair fucking advantage. I can be seen clear as day, dimwit. Also grammar correction ching chong but it's " a trans woman" not women.
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Lia Thomas set record after record in the women category, it is enough proof that the rules and regulations need to change and exclude trannies from sports, forever. Just because they didn't won any Olympic medals is a dumb point. Trannies were allowed in the Olympics because of the fact that the facts at the time were different, 2003 was a long ass time ago, science evolves and changes, but it seems not in the benefit for you, Bailar. It is known to any dipshit at this point that men, no matter what, are on average stronger than women.
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Well Bailar, expect the stats above to go way higher once you let even more trannies in. The women in Lia Thomas' team are already increasing that mental health stat, almost a lot of them have some form of depression at this point. Also the injuries one once you let more trans women in combat sports.
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Of course, she has to include an educational segment. I'm sorry biological woman Bailar, I'm never going to address you as a woman pretending to be a men ever again.
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I like how she acts as aww it's ok you little transphobes and TERFs, Bailar is here to teach you how to be a good trans ally, here join my reeducation concentration camp I mean read these trans resources to be more educated.
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No comment at this point, this dumbass thinks she is doing something really smart here. Man I can't stand this troon, she really is an insufferable, annoying and downright evil. She really is a cunt at this point, she doesn't care, she has enough money to keep going with this nonsesnse till the end of time. And even worse she probably can succed at letting even more trannies in sports because of the money she has.

Yes they do FREAKS, get your nasty dick away from woman’s sports.

 

[Zyklon Ben's Poison Pen]

it's once again women who are disadvantaged... I wonder why... hmmm....

Well physical size obviously,
Its a consequence of equal rights, if you are are equal then you have defend your territory by yourselves. These troons used feminist style oppression Olympics and bullied their way in.
I would really like to have our gendered biological sex based spaces back too, gee I wonder Which Particular Movement Started Invading Whose Space? Hmm?
Regardless these troons are beyond a joke and a cancer and they need to be gone.

 

[Corn Flakes]

I feel like you're getting my post wrong. I still hate troons and think they're delusional like every other people here - especially the last bit, so I'm not making an excuse for them. What I am replying to the original post is that it implies that you're supposedly 'locked up' into a certain type of socialising forever, you cannot change yourself in any social sense, and any attempt for self-development is just a farce and a costume... I'm directly replying to the 'rich guy that joins the gang' metaphor, which I don't think it fits with troonism too much.

I think the point is that despite changing who you are right now, you can't change your past. And you can't change the fact that you also existed in the transitional state (get it?) between what you were and what you are. These are things that existed and they can't be ignored, because they're still part of you.

A tranny pretending to be a woman doesn't change the fact that he was raised as a man and that he is and has always biologically been a man. Just like the rich kid dealing in drugs might fit in perfectly now, but it doesn't change the fact he didn't have to grow in the ghetto like the ones around him. It's something that can be overlooked if you act the part, but it's something must always be accounted for because someone can always bring it up to discredit you. There's a reason trannies use the term "deadname" instead of "previous name" or "birth name". They're trying to literally wipe out their past, to pretend they were a different person and that there was no continuity between what they were and what they are now.

But guess what? The drug-dealing rich kid will always have someone trying to muscle him over for not being "true gangsta". The tranny will always have someone dredging up their past. They must be ready to deal with it in a mature way, but trannies at least very rarely do.

 

[Non Binary 2 Spirit]

They really don't. Troons complaining about how much effort they put into "looking good" while claiming that biological women don't have to try at all makes me MATI.

Go find a blonde beach babe on IG that has the "I woke up like this" look going on while she prepares a breakfast smoothie in her kitchen. She didn't wake up like that, she's just good at "no makeup" makeup and she takes care of herself. She diets, she exercises, she goes to the salon once a month for a cut and color touch up, she shaves or waxes, she has a strict skincare routine, she keeps her nails filed and clean, she practices daily good grooming (that one feminine thing that troons fully reject). That morning before her casual photoshoot she put on tinted moisturizer, curled her lashes, applied a light coat of mascara, filled in her brows, applied tinted lip balm, combed her hair, and hit the roots with some dry shampoo. Then consider that this woman put thought into what haircut and color would look best on her while complementing her skin tone, is aware that the shape of her brows can make a difference, and selects makeup based on what will make her look bright and healthy.

That's a lot of little things on their own, but they obviously add up. And again, that was a list for a "no makeup" makeup look. That wasn't a full face or complete hair styling routine. It can take a long time to learn what products work best for your hair and skin type, your needs, your goals, etc.. Some concealer formulas are amazing but they oxidize horribly. Some foundations are a perfect color match without mixing but cause breakouts. Don't even get me started on different mascara formulas and the wands.

My point is, women do have to try. All the time. Women experiment with different makeup formulas, obtain a good brush set, figure out makeup removal and skincare, change it up with age and environmental factors... it's anything but effortless, regardless of if they're going for a natural look or full blown glam. As dumb as it may sound, these beauty rituals take a certain level of knowledge, discipline, and self respect. I didn't even touch on fashion.

Troons think that growing out their unwashed hair and scribbling on pink lipstick (that's always the worst shade for their skin tone) is the same thing. It's not, and it never will be. Maybe if the filthy beasts practiced actual self care like therapy and touching grass, instead of forcing everyone to go along with their perverted delusions, they would feel happy in their own body. And if not, that's sad, but it's no excuse to cry TERF every time someone points out that they're unwell and a collection of ill-fitting skirts and drugs isn't the cure.

Loads of women do none of that shit and look fine, just because you believe the cosmetics industry hype and have memorized their marketing and can recite it chapter and verse doesn't mean anybody else has. Billions of women don't wear makeup and don't look at the instagram "model" of feminine behavior that you are obsessed with. You are projecting your consumerist insecurities on others.

 

[LinkinParkxNaruto[AMV]]

If biotech ever gets to this point then social mores will shift radically, and I doubt difference between the sexes will matter at all. To make something like that work, you'd have to go much further than just growing an organ (already basically an impossibility for us, even more basic ones like livers that are just undifferentiated cells are very experimental right now). You'd have to figure out how to integrate it into the nervous system, the vascular system, make changes to the endocrine system so hormonal effects don't destroy it or react with it, etc, which would involve a level of detail within the brain that wholly escapes us right now. At that level of plasticity with the human body, you're basically at full cyberpunk fantasy. You may as well just grow humans in test tubes and do away with sex entirely, and give everyone extra arms and dragon wings while you're at it. It's more like a successor species to humans being speculated on than anything relevant to society today.

What we get much sooner is a push for pod living and and spending every waking hour on some metaverse where as an ugly troon you can live as the big tiddy anime girl avatar with voice modulator you always dreamed of.


Thats how most of them already live. Terminally online where the roleplay never ends. Thats the people who are thrilled about the "you will own nothing and will be happy" new distopia. As long as they can be reddit jannys and groom on VR chat all day is their dream life separated from any kind of empirical reality.

 

[A Sentient Dumpster]

But let's just imagine that medicine or society or whatever developed to the point that we mostly did believe that men could become women and women could become men. No matter how we reached that point, I think we can all agree that a person can disagree with that premise and still be a reasonable person. Hell, even if we all absolutely believed that transwomen are women and transmen are men and that anything short of that was a fringe idea, it still wouldn't preclude anyone who held it from being a respectable person as long as they at least didn't go out of their way to discriminate against trans people.

This reminds me of the much lighter topic in the philosophy of transhumanism: at what point a hypothetical person with an increasing number of bionic replacements stops being a person and starts being a machine...

The reason I bring it up is that in introductory philosophy classes, people freely debate this (or used to, maybe things have changed with the rise of transgenderism). And there, one person could say that this transhumanist would still be a human until they're 100% machine, another person might say they're considered a unique blend, say a "cyborg" as soon as they have any implants. Amusingly, I think hardly anyone would argue that they could be called a "machine" after making some half-assed attempt at replacing some of their parts and modifying their outward appearance.

Obviously the parallel isn't perfect, but it's funny to me that transhumanism is considered a fun and free discussion topic, and transgenderism really isn't. Maybe if people with prosthetic limbs collectively demanded to be called robots under threat of suicide, then we wouldn't be allowed to debate that either.