Careercow Donald J Trump - 45th/47th President of the USA, convicted felon, Epstein bro, Putin simp, serial liar, sore loser, cheat and the Chris-Chan of Presidents. THIS IS NOT A POLITICAL DEBATE THREAD.

Miss Tommie Jayne Wasserberg said:
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i'm pretty sure that more people voted for nobody than both of them combined. Nobody definitely beat them both in a landslide. So much of America has been disenchanted by the scam that nobody has been winning every election since 1968. What little democracy there was in America died with JFK. It's been a corporatist kakistocracy ever since.

The swing vote for Biden came from a lot of hard work by queer and indigenous community leaders to get the vote out and Biden has totally pissed on all of them by letting the Equality Act slide and jumping right into bed with the fossil fuel companies.
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Frosty_Glass said:
you shouldn't be allowed to vote
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you shouldn't be allowed to LIVE
 
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Anyone thinking hillary or orange man or anyone with any real power is ever seeing a jail cell is so asstardedly stupid as to not be listened to. No president or presidential candidate of serious concern will ever do time even if they raped an infant on live tv. Not Biden not Kamala not Pence. Just stop.
 
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LettuceMan said:
Politics is boring in general. I prefer my elected officials be uninteresting but doing their jobs than be “amusing” and fuck around on tax payer dime doing jack shit ala Trump, MTG, Maddison Cawthorne, etc etc.
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To me, he was the most entertaining politician, the way how he shittalked Kim Jong Un was legendary. But then again, he was not in charge of my nation... merely in charge of our most important ally outside the EU... so basically, not that much to laugh about when you think about it.
TheSockiestSock said:
The plan was enacted over the weekend... Only you never saw it.

Biden, his cabinet, and tons of both Dem and Republican senators and other officials were arrested. Proof of their vast crimes was shown. They were court martialed and found guilty.

However, it was decided this was too much for the American people to accept. Overturning the election and showing the crimes of these politicians could lead to Civil War.

So an agreement was reached: Biden and other deep state elements wI'll be allowed to move freely and serve their terms. President Trump would "concede" and leave office. But this is all for appearances.

Behind the scenes, Donald J. Trump is still President. This plan, known as Shadowprez, was seen as a last resort. But it worked.

Anything that happens in the next 4 years is actually President Trumps doing.

#MAGA
#WWG1WGA
#SHADOWPRESIDENT
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The crazy thing is, that is what German Qtards believed was going on in Germany unironically in 2020.
Merkel and a few other politicians caught the Beijing Blight and had to go into quarantine, sending out occasional video messages, so of course that meant Day X had finally come. :story:

These Qtard faggots genuinely thought this was Trump doing a coup-d'etat (on their behalf!) to overthrow the secret shadow-rule of the SHAEF.
Sandnigger said:
Did you forget that Trump started a trade war with China that crewed over soybean farmers ?
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Telling china to get stuffed was a decent enough idea, Trump just did jack fucking squat to actually confront china and its influence in any meaningful way. Whan a nation like china is taking root all across the globe and slowly grabbing whatever resources entire continents such as Africa have to offer, the correct way to confront that isn't to hunker up in your America First bubble and bitch about tariffs.

It wasn't just ineffectual china politics, it was outright embarassing. Australia, Japan, South Korea and a few other nations wantes to team up with the US and start a free trade zone in Asia to boost their own strength and limit chinese influence. Trump pulled out of those talks when he took over and for a short moment, it looked like those nations would team up with china (hoping to influence china through the backdoor of international trade). I can't even comprehend how fucking dumb Trump is to almost serve two entire continents tied up in a neat free trade ribbon on a silver platter to the chinese while he wails about how evil the yellow peril is.
Sandnigger said:
Did you forget that Trump imposed tariffs for non-US steel that screwed not only the EU, USA's main ally, but also any average Joe in the US that needed steel ?
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Another glorious highlight. If the US can't provide steel at competetive prices or in the necessary quantity, bitching about trade imbalance is not going to make up for those deficits when you introduce tariffs. All you do is hike up prices of production, which will make your products even less appealing on the international market. This only becomes funnier when you consider that he also put tariffs on cars not made in the US to push back against VW and other European car companies. Bit of an oopsie-doodle, since VW has a massive factory in Tennessee that churns out 150k cars a year, so the tariffs don't apply to them. Other car companies dodged the tax via similar means.

It's almost as hilarious as Reagan trying to push back Japanese cars on the US market in the 80s by forcing Japan to only export a fixed number of cars a year. How did that turn out? By being more scarce, the per-unit-price of Japanese cars exploded. Suddenly, Toyota, Honda etc. sold cars at such high prices that they more than made up for the lower number of cars being sold. Japan actually expanded their marketshare even more, so of course Reagan tried to reel them back in. But since they were such good allies, they just adhered to Reagans original deal for a couple more years while making a mint off of selling cars at inflated prices.
Sandnigger said:
Edit: as for Ukraine, the reason the US wants to protect it and Georgia for that manner is not only they are prospective NATO countries but also a buffer between NATO and Russia. If Ukraine falls, the whole East-European former-Soviet Union bloc will be under constant threat. Even if Russia wouldn't invade them, the prospect would be enough to destabilize those countries (that were barely second-world countries anyway).
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Ukraine is also a prime staging ground to strike out against Moscow. That's part of the reason why Putin would shit his pants if Ukraine would join NATO. It's less than 500km from northern Ukraine to Moscow, less distance than even from Estonia, let alone Finnland or Poland.

Ironically, Russian attempts to keep Ukraine out of the US/NATO sphere of influence meant that Ukraine has really fucking solid reasons to join NATO.

Also, bit of a sidenote, Trump bitching about MUH 2% GDP DEFENSE SPENDING was also prime tardrage salt. He insinuated that countries like Germany (who are below the 2% margin) owe the difference to the US. That's hilarious enough on its own, but I have to marvel at him -of all people- not realizing that we can take our sweet fucking time to spend 2%. The NATO agreement is to spend that amount of money by 2024, not earlier. Also, bonuspoints for Trump insinuating that the US might not intervene on behalf of certain member states of NATO if they don't feel like it. Way to undermine international trust and the political influence of your own nation.

Trump is a really shitty real estate hustler if that's how he operates. Let's be honest, if this clown wasn't born into fame and fortune, he'd be a rando packing paper bags in a Walmart. And he'd be packing boxes of eggs first and throw the gallon-jug of milk right on top.
 
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GraveDanger said:
Imagine wanting to vote for Trump again after he lost to Joe Biden. Joe Biden was one of the weaker Democratic candidates,
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Didn't he barely even leave his bunker during the entire campaign? And when he did it looked like they were spending the bare minimum.
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That's why people are suspicious of the most voted for President in the history of the United states. It just doesn't add up. If that's the way things worked then Hillary should've disappeared during her entire campaign run and won in a landslide.
 
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There was definitely more energy before the pandemic when Biden came around in 2018 for midterms. Then again progressives and centrists were still getting along and even I had to take my own picture I took with the man down because frankly he just gives off skeevy vibes I don’t want to associate with (and why I ultimately didn’t vote for him).

But vibes aren’t proof and while there is ample circumstantial stuff after fifty years in public anyone is going to be like that barring someone totally irrelevant. I dunno at that level all politicians are pretty much vampires who traded their souls for power and the best you can hope for is that they actually deign to pass some shit you advocate for (and it works the way you think it will and doesn’t turn in a second Cultural Revolution).
 
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Didn't he barely even leave his bunker during the entire campaign? And when he did it looked like they were spending the bare minimum.
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That's why people are suspicious of the most voted for President in the history of the United states. It just doesn't add up. If that's the way things worked then Hillary should've disappeared during her entire campaign run and won in a landslide.
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The person you're replying to is just a troll sock account

Though as for that, most people who'd vote Democrat wouldn't be the types of people who would turn out big for rallies in 2020. It's honestly really hard to compare 2020 to normal election years. To further add on, getting the most votes doesn't mean that people would like you, it's just who people think they'll get less fucked in the ass by. I voted for Trump in 2020 only because he'd have less time left compared to Biden who could have two terms and that a Trump 2024 campaign would be cringeworthy (and given his rallies and still bitching about voter fraud, it only proved me right.)
 
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Sandnigger said:
I also hate the fact that the Democratic party usis superdelegates to fuck over nominations if the candidate that the corporate democrats want is not the one that the democratic voters want.

About Trump: last few pages there were people saying how he didn't screw the average white boi over during his presidency or that he had fewer fuck-ups than Biden. Did you forget that Trump started a trade war with China that crewed over soybean farmers ? Did you forget that Trump imposed tariffs for non-US steel that screwed not only the EU, USA's main ally, but also any average Joe in the US that needed steel ? Like farmers that were planning to build silos ? Did you forget trump wanted to start a trade war with Canada and Mexico, USA's closest allies and neighbouring contries over NAFTA, renegotiate the deal but changing essentially nothing that would help the average american and call it a win ?

I swear, people seem to have the collective memory of goldfish sometimes.

Edit: as for Ukraine, the reason the US wants to protect it and Georgia for that manner is not only they are prospective NATO countries but also a buffer between NATO and Russia. If Ukraine falls, the whole East-European former-Soviet Union bloc will be under constant threat. Even if Russia wouldn't invade them, the prospect would be enough to destabilize those countries (that were barely second-world countries anyway).
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People ignore this, they only hear what they want to hear and disregard the rest.
 
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moseph.jartelli said:
No he wasn't. The DNC pushed him the hardest. There were other viable candidates, but the establishment didn't want them, and boomers only trust people from thier own dysfunctional generation.
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IIRC, Joe Biden comes from the generation directly preceding the Baby Boomers; the Silent Generation.
 
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