Philosophy Tube / Oliver Lennard / Oliver "Olly" Thorn / Abigail Thorn - Breadtube's Patrick Bateman.

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One comment, but lo, it has been flagged as offensive?
I wonder what verbal assault it contains?
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Aha. Due to the fact that the reply contains no directed abuse, swearing or such, we can take it that it got a warning notice because the person will have been instantly blocked by Tube, thus alerting twitter to auto-flag.

He really does nowt to deserve the mantel of Trans activist, which he hassles the media and his subscribes to bestow officially on him, a la 'please vote for my LGBT award, would really help my career ngl'

fucker wont even argue the toss for his own side, is not interested in any persuasion or representation of any sort, nor apparently does he seem to care about the ever increasing numbers of people who are being herded into this only to regret it- who he himself is, nauseatingly, responsible for a great deal of soon to be future de-transitioners.

He's such a fkn hack, he doesnt even really bother to fight for his cause, misguided as it is. He will trot out a line, but he wont debate *anyone* and when the devoted tubelets dare try to come to him with a few of the ramifications of the problems he's pointed them toward, they are 'unloading on him' and threatening his sanctified space- the proximity markers of which he will constantly move, with reprimand.

totalcock.

(the article is a very sad read)

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Just caught sight of this interesting-headed individual ;
By the sounds of what we've discussed regarding overabundant space and features; think we have potential mould-cast for Toobas New Look!
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What exactly is their obsession with landlords? I could understand huge management companies, or financial institutions gobbling up properties (Blackstone, etc.), but “Alice” and Olly seem to be talking about someone who owns one property. Personally, IMO, providing a shelter at fair market value and charging rent for it is way more ethical than grifting off of impressionable, sexually confused young people and using your parasocial relationship with them to market merch etc.

When Olly was on that retarded “queer” panel a few months back the host asked him what he wants for troons? He said equal health care and “free housing while we’re at it.” That would be “for starters.” The panel nodded approvingly. Like, what? Lol. Is this a part of Marxist thought? They just want “free” houses for everyone? Or just for troons? Honestly I’m asking? Is Olly an avowed Marxist? Or does he just throw out something like that to sound woke or whatever? Has he ever articulated his political worldview as far as economics?

And did I misunderstand or did Olly pop up in “Alice’s” thread about landlord exploitation to say he wants to fuck his landlord(s)?
 
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What exactly is their obsession with landlords? I could understand huge management companies, or financial institutions gobbling up properties (Blackstone, etc.), but “Alice” and Olly seem to be talking about someone who owns one property. Personally, IMO, providing a shelter at fair market value and charging rent for it is way more ethical than grifting off of impressionable, sexually confused young people and using your parasocial relationship with them to market merch etc.

When Olly was on that retarded “queer” panel a few months back the host asked him what he wants for troons? He said equal health care and “free housing while we’re at it.” That would be “for starters.” The panel nodded approvingly. Like, what? Lol. Is this a part of Marxist thought? They just want “free” houses for everyone? Or just for troons? Honestly I’m asking? Is Olly an avowed Marxist? Or does he just throw out something like that to sound woke or whatever? Has he ever articulated his political worldview as far as economics?

And did I misunderstand or did Olly pop up in “Alice’s” thread about landlord exploitation to say he wants to fuck his landlord(s)?

In communism there's a distinction between "personal" and "private" property, if you use it in your day to day life, it's personal, if you use it to extract wealth from others, its private. Communists believe that resources that are essential to survive and be productive in a modern, industrial society should not be in the hands of a wealthy few, so society should be oriented to allow everyone to engage in work meaningfully and profit from their work the way they would if they owned the business they work for. From the communist manifesto:
Question 2: What is the aim of the Communists?
Answer: To organise society in such a way that every member of it can develop and use all his capabilities and powers in complete freedom and without thereby infringing the basic conditions of this society.

I'm not interested in debating the ethics or rationality of communism because what difference does it make, but I will say it's funny that so many people fixate on the exact parts they think mean getting to sit around doing nothing.

Oh and Olly's "joke" is just this

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I'm not interested in debating the ethics or rationality of communism because what difference does it make,
Yes, agreed. I’m only interested in it inasmuch as what Olly has said, or what he presents as his views on such things.

I know he made the “Work” video which talked about “exploitation” etc, but I don’t know if we’ve heard him declare himself a socialist full stop. I’m just remarking on the fact that he tosses these things out but doesn’t really elucidate on anything, given that he’s a “philosopher” lol.

He said during the “queer” panel that he just wants one British political party to come out in full support of trans rights, regardless if it’s Tory or Labor. Or anything else. So I guess any class politics are well and truly in the rear view and it’s “trans power!” full steam ahead.

Presumably the only reason he has a landlord or still rents rather than owns is because he wants to get out of the UK and stalk Contra full time. I guess it’s hard to articulate your class analysis when exploiting teenagers and twenty somethings and your fetish take up all of your time.
 
It is funny to me that so much of breadtube is people with no clear ideology aside from complaining about bigotry in pop culture, which is one of the few things most working class people can agree is of interest to nobody besides academic busybodies. Even the trans rights thing is obvious culture war obsession with moralism rather than any materialistic concern (the trans wage gap statistic posted by antiwork jannies still gets a chuckle out of me. You'd think they'd know better than to post that immediately after one of their own admitted to walking dogs part time on national tv.)
 
I know that every so often we talk about KJB and that at that is not even that entertaining but I recently got into the mood to look back at the Craig movies (fuck you, he is the only Bond I have been alive to see) and I came to a realization, not that original, but one I want to share nonetheless.

> Chube has a podcast talking about a franchise that has been largely lambasted as misogynistic.
> Daniel Craig was put on blast for being a blonde short king, unlike the brown-haired, taller predecessors.
> Chube has brown hair and is a fucking transzilla.
> Chube did mention an actor of his profile (pre princess arc) would aspire to become the 007. Fair, if you are an actor there are roles you would love to play no matter what.
> Has a video with a cocktail dress and a horrendous Russian accent.

Is it safe to assume Chube may want to capitalize on the opportunity to play a female 007 or some other agent?
 
It is funny to me that so much of breadtube is people with no clear ideology aside from complaining about bigotry in pop culture, which is one of the few things most working class people can agree is of interest to nobody besides academic busybodies.
Isn't this completely true for approx. 95.7% of the CURRENT YEAR "commies"? Claiming to be communists while being completely detached from the actual working class, parading "progressive social justice&equity" causes instead of pursuing traditional left-wing policies, a total disregard for material reality, no solid knowledge and at best a sketchy understanding of economy and communist theory, a profound lack of real life experience. Perfectly describes Breadtube, its audience, and most of the "Modern Left".

I can respect Slavoj Zizek even if I don't agree with his politics or understand half of his philosophy. I won't even entertain the thought of respecting people whose hot takes include "HATSUNE MIKU WROTE HARRY POTTER SHE SAYS TRANS RIGHTS" and "just abolish the police and prisons, kill landlords, eat the rich, give us free shit now".
Is it safe to assume Chube may want to capitalize on the opportunity to play a female 007 or some other agent?
He might want to but if he's trying to become the first tranny 007 he's even more delusional than I thought. IMO the most "progressive" choice that isn't going to completely alienate the fan base would be Idris Elba - who could play the role based purely on his charisma, acting chops, and looks. Olly has none of those.
 
Yes, agreed. I’m only interested in it inasmuch as what Olly has said, or what he presents as his views on such things.

I know he made the “Work” video which talked about “exploitation” etc, but I don’t know if we’ve heard him declare himself a socialist full stop. I’m just remarking on the fact that he tosses these things out but doesn’t really elucidate on anything, given that he’s a “philosopher” lol.

He said during the “queer” panel that he just wants one British political party to come out in full support of trans rights, regardless if it’s Tory or Labor. Or anything else. So I guess any class politics are well and truly in the rear view and it’s “trans power!” full steam ahead.

Presumably the only reason he has a landlord or still rents rather than owns is because he wants to get out of the UK and stalk Contra full time. I guess it’s hard to articulate your class analysis when exploiting teenagers and twenty somethings and your fetish take up all of your time.
A part of me wants to bet that his landlord is actually his parents who seem like they almost certainly have a strong enough income that they own some extra property.

All this talk about surgery and PT's non-existent gate-keeping for medicalising young trans people has me thinking about a horrible and depressing Tweet I just read about a Detransitioner:
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What exactly is Olly's stance here about a young woman who was barely in her 20s and went whole hog on extreme medical procedures that clearly, irrevocably damaged her body and especially her ability to procreate that she now desperately regrets and wishes some medical authority hit the brakes on at some point?
 
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Come on Oliver, when are you going to reveal your brand new womanface? Did it not turn out the way you imagined or something?
Quoting a certain youtuber, "It always ends bad". Here's another tranny with his brand new balloon tits:
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That's a day we both know will never happen, Max. Also, his Twitter banner made me laugh.

Olly either got less or a lot more than he wanted.
 
Yeah for real. Tooba is many things but coy is not one of them, he will jump at the chance to get attention and these are the perfect circumstances for that. He's either unhappy with the results, still not healed enough to be presentable, or enjoying making everyone wait and daydreaming about the big reveal. His next video is supposedly due at the end of this month so perhaps he's planning for that to also be his face reveal. Just like Contra with "Beauty".
 
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