NeoGAF & ResetERA - The Hilarious N̶e̶v̶e̶r̶e̶n̶d̶i̶n̶g̶ Splintering "Gaming" Forum Circus

[Alcoholism]

I hate when "Thing A" happens, so to fix that, I propose doing "Thing A" as a solution.

 

[RetardEra]

I can't imagine going through life this miserable. These fuckers are NEVER happy.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/it-may-seem-like-a-minor-thing-but-seeing-black-characters-without-lighter-palms-or-soles-when-applicable-feels-weird-now.549601/

 

[Coily]

Sifu has hurt the feelings of the 10000000 gazillion Chinamen who make up the Great Chinese Wall of Steel.

Resetera won't allow it.

 

[jallsballs]

I see some reviewers and Resetera are going off on Sifu now.
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later in that topic they find out that the team did indeed have chinese people consulting to ensure that everything was authentic or whatever, and now they are just bitching about grammar

 

[Marissa Moira]

Sifu is very much a AA title that people have long requested and then once it comes out they wind up hating it because it has unrefined aspects that AA games were known for.

The return to AA gaming won't happen because the people who want it look through everything in the past with rose colored glasses. Like there's a reason why we never got another Mark of Kri Game/Rise of The Kansai.

Sifu has major difficulty spikes and combat could be a bit more cohesive, it's not a bad game. But it's not going to appease the people who think they remember AA games being closer to AAA games,

 

[Shaka Brah]

Sifu is very much a AA title that people have long requested and then once it comes out they wind up hating it because it has unrefined aspects that AA games were known for.

The return to AA gaming won't happen because the people who want it look through everything in the past with rose colored glasses. Like there's a reason why we never got another Mark of Kri Game/Rise of The Kansai.

Sifu has major difficulty spikes and combat could be a bit more cohesive, it's not a bad game. But it's not going to appease the people who think they remember AA games being closer to AAA games,

The only good AA or B games will continue to be random autism projects that get picked up by publishers. Stuff like Subnautica.

 

[Leftism Respecter]

I see some reviewers and Resetera are going off on Sifu now.
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I saw an article about this “controversy” on The Verge. Somehow they always manage to write about the same topics in perfect sync with each other.

These clowns will hate you if your game lacks diversity, hate you if your diverse game lacks diverse developers, hate you if your diverse game made by diverse developers lacks the right kind of diversity (black lesbian trannies), they’ll even hate you you if you’re diverse game made by diverse developers has nothing but the right kind of diversity. These are not happy people and no amount of appeasement will change that.

 

[RudeRoasts]

later in that topic they find out that the team did indeed have chinese people consulting to ensure that everything was authentic or whatever, and now they are just bitching about grammar

Can confirm.



The humanity!!
How many recent games, movies and television series have indulged in pigeon Latin to the tune of 0 pushback? Cry moar, honestly.





"Get consultants for your fictional tribes".
Consultants apparently aren't enough anymore, and if past threads are any indications, hirings aren't enough either.

The return to AA gaming won't happen because the people who want it look through everything in the past with rose colored glasses. Like there's a reason why we never got another Mark of Kri Game/Rise of The Kansai.

I would argue that games like Mark of Kri were AAA for their time. We look at that stuff as rough around the edges, but that was gaming pre-HD period. Mark of Kri was still at the top end of what mainstream game development could produce though.

But the point still stands. In fact, it's strengthened. These people wouldn't last five with early 2000s games and franchises that engaged in Asian settings and/or the obligatory Chinatown level without blowing steam our of their ears.

 

[jallsballs]

I appreciate how the narrative shifted from "they cant even do the bare minimum of hiring consultants" to "ok well maybe they did but they should have replaced the whites on the dev team with asians"

They won't even acknowledge that their initial demands were actually met before moving the goalposts (again)

 

[Agarathium1066]

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"Get consultants for your fictional tribes".
Consultants apparently aren't enough anymore, and if past threads are any indications, hirings aren't enough either.

Sure I'll jump right on that when I see a consultant on the fictional god of death worshipping tribe of the Pwonga-bonga-jonga or whatever the fuck is put into a particular world build. Or stop screaming like a banshee when people actually speak or notice a facet of a culture that isn't white. That's how you get generic european settings that they will then inevitably bitch up a storm about.

 

[Next Task]

ResetERA jannies have no sense of humor, and this further confirms it.

It's worse - they have a sense of anti-humour. They don't just not get or like comedy, they actively are attempting to remove humour because it's 'problematic punching down'. They're permanent, serious Debbie Downers looking to destroy all forms of unapproved fun and laughter.

That seems weirdly harsh, but look at just Nepenthe's posting history for example and it fits perfectly. Everything is political and nothing is entertaining or funny. Those are the rules.

 

[Leftism Respecter]

Is it even legal to hire people with specific racial/ethnic requirements? Not sure what the laws are in wherever Sifu was made, but pretty sure that’s not legal in America.

What if a black guy applies to your game about Chinese culture? I guess he should be rejected, even if he is an expert on Chinese culture. Because he has to be Chinese (or any other East Asian, as long as he looks kinda Chinese it’s okay apparently) or it doesn’t count.

 

[ForTheHoard]

Is it even legal to hire people with specific racial/ethnic requirements? Not sure what the laws are in wherever Sifu was made, but pretty sure that’s not legal in America.

What if a black guy applies to your game about Chinese culture? I guess he should be rejected, even if he is an expert on Chinese culture. Because he has to be Chinese (or any other East Asian, as long as he looks kinda Chinese it’s okay apparently) or it doesn’t count.

US laws are conflicting with racially based hiring. It was going to go to the Supreme Court but the lawsuit was dropped when the executive changed hands.

 

[Far Queue]

I saw an article about this “controversy” on The Verge. Somehow they always manage to write about the same topics in perfect sync with each other.

These clowns will hate you if your game lacks diversity, hate you if your diverse game lacks diverse developers, hate you if your diverse game made by diverse developers lacks the right kind of diversity (black lesbian trannies), they’ll even hate you you if you’re diverse game made by diverse developers has nothing but the right kind of diversity. These are not happy people and no amount of appeasement will change that.

In the spirit of "no such thing as bad publicity" I think more small developers should just try to take advantage of the collective outrage from these idiots as a form of free marketing. It's not even particularly hard to come up with an idea that will rattle the cage enough to set that pack of howler monkeys off either. Just take a game set in space or in the future and add some bit about no one being transgender because all humans are tube babies created in carefully controlled environments to prevent birth defects. Just make all characters bisexual and asian or some weird shit like that in order ensure some infighting amongst the troop an enjoy the shit fit.

 

[AutoGuyNoFile]

The developers of Sifu, Sloclap, are apparently French and their studio consists of 60 employees total. But what gets me is REEEEEE asking for them to hire Chinese developers to make the game. BITCH IT'S THEIR GAME! This isn't something Sony wanted made, they didn't PICK the developer, they ARE the developer! The fuck did you expect them to do? Fire and replace themselves?! (it's retard era, obviously the answer is "yes")

In the spirit of "no such thing as bad publicity" I think more small developers should just try to take advantage of the collective outrage from these idiots as a form of free marketing. It's not even particularly hard to come up with an idea that will rattle the cage enough to set that pack of howler monkeys off either. Just take a game set in space or in the future and add some bit about no one being transgender because all humans are tube babies created in carefully controlled environments to prevent birth defects. Just make all characters bisexual and asian or some weird shit like that in order ensure some infighting amongst the troop an enjoy the shit fit.

Oh I've already made a vow that if I EVER get a game off the ground, every game I make will contain a sexy black girl with a huge ass. Both because there aren't enough sexy black ladies with a huge asses in videogames (trust me, I'm an expert on this) and because it would short circuit these idiots. On one hand OMG BLACK QUEEN on the other hand OH NO SHE'S HOT! How many sexy black girls have you seen running around in bikini mail? EXACTLY. That's a problem what needs solvin'!

 

[Leftism Respecter]

In the spirit of "no such thing as bad publicity" I think more small developers should just try to take advantage of the collective outrage from these idiots as a form of free marketing. It's not even particularly hard to come up with an idea that will rattle the cage enough to set that pack of howler monkeys off either. Just take a game set in space or in the future and add some bit about no one being transgender because all humans are tube babies created in carefully controlled environments to prevent birth defects. Just make all characters bisexual and asian or some weird shit like that in order ensure some infighting amongst the troop an enjoy the shit fit.

I have resolved that if I ever make a game, at least one character will be a black man voiced by a white guy.

 

[Morethanabitfoolish]

While I know that there is some merit in getting people with actual experience of whatever you are trying to depict I love that their demand to do so also runs contrary some of the site's own standards.

"Trust lived experiences, there's no way to replicate them and no-one who's not actually had those can fully understand them!"
"So trans women don't know what it's like to be a woman then?"

"This martial arts series need more Asian people consulting for the martial arts stuff!"
"Didn't we decide like a decade back that" all Chinese people know karate" was a dumb stereotype?"


And so on.

 

[PaulBearer]

While I know that there is some merit in getting people with actual experience of whatever you are trying to depict I love that their demand to do so also runs contrary some of the site's own standards.

"Trust lived experiences, there's no way to replicate them and no-one who's not actually had those can fully understand them!"
"So trans women don't know what it's like to be a woman then?"

"This martial arts series need more Asian people consulting for the martial arts stuff!"
"Didn't we decide like a decade back that" all Chinese people know karate" was a dumb stereotype?"


And so on.

Chinks do kung-fu, It's the Japs that do Karate.

 

[Morethanabitfoolish]

Chinks do kung-fu, It's the Japs that do Karate.

I'm culturally insensitive.

 

[AirdropShitposts]

While I know that there is some merit in getting people with actual experience of whatever you are trying to depict I love that their demand to do so also runs contrary some of the site's own standards.

"Trust lived experiences, there's no way to replicate them and no-one who's not actually had those can fully understand them!"
"So trans women don't know what it's like to be a woman then?"

"This martial arts series need more Asian people consulting for the martial arts stuff!"
"Didn't we decide like a decade back that" all Chinese people know karate" was a dumb stereotype?"


And so on.

The big one:
"Race is just a social construct"
"Race is the most important and maybe the only necessary thing to know about someone"

These people are so far up their own asses with race essentialism that they demand cultural apartheid over multiculturalism. (A word I've noticed that they've started redefining much like "racism" to promote the idea of racial separatism.)