Kung Pow Cream
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Dear god, fun fur
Community Knitwits in the Fiber Arts Hobby - Drama in the fiber arts
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Amber the Hedgehog
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While you can go too far with it, most yarns aren't something in stock all the time, actually it's not that uncommon you can't get it again. Colors change even just between batches and on bigger projects you can easily tell. It's extremely normal that yarns are seasonal and when that season is over you can't get that yarn in that color or pattern again. Something similar probably but that exact no. If you have realistic plans for making something bigger or you just find one that you really really love then it's good idea to stock up little.
Material of the yarn affects how the end product functions. Not only do the yarns look different, some are more warm, some can take wear more, some are less itchy, some stretch and some don't and so fort. You just can't always get the results you are looking for with basic cheap acrylic.
I don't know about everyone else but when I do handcrafted gifts usually the end users are part of choosing the yarn, model and and so fort. The being able personalize is the biggest pro on making rather just buying and I'm spending my time on this so I want it to be used. It's specifically made for their needs and so the fancy stuff might be exactly what they want and need. For example I have mildly atopic skin and so most basic wools can feel super itchy so I invest little for something that doesn't irrate my skin if I'm doing a hat or a scarf for myself. Because the item is made especially for them it's not unusual that people bother taking care of it little better or tell me it needs to be easy to wash and we choose a yarn that is.
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If you want an example of shitty novelty yarns, here is this one I found that someone bought on a whim and asked what to do with and she was like "What should I crochet with this ?" and everyone was like "You don't..."Dear god, fun fur
Other yarns that are cursed are any yarn with tinsel or sparkly bits in it, with very few exceptions, they are scratchy to work with and the fabric they make is scratchy too. One time I found yarn that was metallic and was nothing but a thin strand of tinsel.
And yes, dye lots are super important if you want something uniform and why you often have no choice but to buy your yarn for a project all at once. Most of these people don't and just buy it on a whim because it is pretty or think they will do a project only for them not to and just have the yarn sit there for years.
Kung Pow Cream
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I've been working with yarn since like '08. I know yarn is different. You're basically explaining color to someone with sight. I'm literally talking about how people treat their products. Many people don't have the time to properly wash it or they simply forget that it's a special material so I just make sure it's feasible for the common person. Acrylic also can be warm. I'm not talking about red heart super saver or pound of love, I'm talking about a step above that or higher. There is such a thing as good acrylic. People are just weird and snooty about yarn.
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Ah, yes. Of course. It’s offensive to sex “workers”. Somehow. Because heaven forbid a prostitute be confused for a crocheter. The absolute INDIGNITY that anyone might assume you engage in… GRANNY HOBBIES!
Seriously, why is it offensive and why should I stop calling myself a hooker?
Amber the Hedgehog
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Oh definitely they are those that get way too into fancy yarn but to be fair I have absolutely no way of knowing what you or others reading this thread know so I just pointed out why fancy stuff can worth it. It's not always, I use locally most common 75% wool 25% polyamide yarn for basic socks, gloves and many other projects that aren't needing anything more specific. There definitely are good acrylic yarn, not my specialty but I have seen them.
But if we stick Snooty MacFancywools who only use the best speciality yarn, I think reasons are fairly similar to those braking about cooking with fancy expensive, rare and/or authentic ingredients. There are times when investing in ingredients is the key to improve a food quality and something you might want look into if you like cooking. The fancy ingredients might even be necessary to do something at all but often it's just about ego. It makes you feel better than others. You are different, more thoughtful, more knowledgeable and more invested. You make food that is special witch makes you special.
Oh that's a lovely meatloaf dear. I make mine from 100 % grassland raised cow mixed with Japanese firm tofu adding some local organic fresh herbs but this is fine too.
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The best thing about acrylic for gifts is that you can steam block it and it will stay in that shape forever. Which means you can make grandma a nice lace shawl for church without having to worry about her needing to have someone pin it out every time it needs a wash.
Or baby stuff, when babies are known for getting stuff everywhere. Wool can irritate a babies skin and cotton is heavy and can be hard to work with. Acrylic is perfect because it can take a beating and will look good for their children, if you use nice acrylic.
I also like it for big blankets because it's affordable. I made a twin size Minecraft blanket out of Hobby Lobby's I Love This Yarn, which is a nice substitute for RHSS because it comes in a wider range of colors and is much softer, and it cost me $70 total for all the skeins I needed. I shudder to think how much it would have cost for wool, even through Knit Picks or Hobbii. And I don't have to worry about how I'm going to clean it when my cats barf all over it.
I love natural fibers, but I love acrylic too. Even some cheap acrylic has its uses.
It's not. It's just virtue signaling by progressive holier than thou ~sex positive sex work is work~ morons. It's like how saying colored people is ~totes offensive~ but people of color is a-ok, even though it's the exact same thing.
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I haven’t seen it mentioned in the thread but there is the almighty wool vs. cotton vs. acrylic for baby blankets debate (I’m not sure people are even arguing about it anymore but it’s worth a mention)
If your baby happens to catch fire:
Wool can self-extinguish because it’s not particularly flammable, hopefully saving the baby.
Cotton will catch, presumably allowing your child to burn to death.
Acrylic will melt and attach to baby’s flesh, disfiguring it for life!
Now, the wool thing made perfect sense back in the day. No electricity, candles everywhere. Genuine fire risk. But wool can be scratchy (depending on quality) and hot and some babies are allergic.
Cotton makes more sense to use in the modern era because it’s breathable and lightweight. You’re much less likely to have a fire in baby’s room nowadays because of good ol’ electricity.
Acrylic is used a lot because it’s cheap, easy to wash, and it’s available pretty much everywhere. Again, because we have electricity it’s much less likely you’ll be dealing with fire very often, but if the blanket happens to catch fire the plastic will melt and cause serious burns.
It really is up to personal preference these days (how frequent are house-fires anymore?) but you’ll still find a few people that violently insist on using wool.
Thanks for coming to my TED Talk.
If your baby happens to catch fire:
Wool can self-extinguish because it’s not particularly flammable, hopefully saving the baby.
Cotton will catch, presumably allowing your child to burn to death.
Acrylic will melt and attach to baby’s flesh, disfiguring it for life!
Now, the wool thing made perfect sense back in the day. No electricity, candles everywhere. Genuine fire risk. But wool can be scratchy (depending on quality) and hot and some babies are allergic.
Cotton makes more sense to use in the modern era because it’s breathable and lightweight. You’re much less likely to have a fire in baby’s room nowadays because of good ol’ electricity.
Acrylic is used a lot because it’s cheap, easy to wash, and it’s available pretty much everywhere. Again, because we have electricity it’s much less likely you’ll be dealing with fire very often, but if the blanket happens to catch fire the plastic will melt and cause serious burns.
It really is up to personal preference these days (how frequent are house-fires anymore?) but you’ll still find a few people that violently insist on using wool.
Thanks for coming to my TED Talk.
Personally I just go for whatever’s softest and let the recipient know what fibers are in there
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Oooh, the same editor who did this:
They are hypocrites though, I remember one designer having her shop closed, because she named one of her patterns "gypsy" and when they tried to force her to change it (via wordfilter iirc) she just changed it minimally, she did that multiple times. Her patterns are still listed, but you can only buy them off-site:
It was this one:
They gave her some days before they closed her shop, so she sent everyone of her former buyers an email with a coupon of 20% (iirc).
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Yeah, anytime there is mod ~drama~ on Rav it's always because of this mod. Every time I look at the edits and think this is much ado about nothing, and I always hear about it from the same people who make such a big deal about how Ebil Ravelry is for redesigning their site.
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Update on the grifter:
Priorities! Weed before welfare.
Priorities! Weed before welfare.
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Can we talk about dumb cows here? This is a personal cow of mine, she doesn't produce much, but when she does!
This pattern is Unicorn With a Smile. As you can see the hat is modeled on a child with their face redacted because, well, minor child.
This is the exceptional comment this cow left on this pattern.
I cut out the name because she might Google herself and DFE and there goes my (limited) lulz.
This pattern is Unicorn With a Smile. As you can see the hat is modeled on a child with their face redacted because, well, minor child.
This is the exceptional comment this cow left on this pattern.
I cut out the name because she might Google herself and DFE and there goes my (limited) lulz.
Kung Pow Cream
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I could probably have a field day observing the munchies in certain discussion boards. That place is probably filled with cows.Can we talk about dumb cows here? This is a personal cow of mine, she doesn't produce much, but when she does!View attachment 2963977
This pattern is Unicorn With a Smile. As you can see the hat is modeled on a child with their face redacted because, well, minor child.
This is the exceptional comment this cow left on this pattern.View attachment 2963976
I cut out the name because she might Google herself and DFE and there goes my (limited) lulz.
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Just Lazy, Stupid and Godless alone probably. It's so big and high traffic.
There's more minor drama on Twitter. A designer Tweeted this:
Most replies were agreeing with her, because honestly duh. Lace needs aggressive blocking otherwise it looks like shit.
One person though got their panties in a twist:
:eyeroll:
Though the second commenter has a point about gifts that need special care IMO.
This prompted said designer to backtrack her statement (weak sauce).
Which leads me to these subtweets:
Whatever.
Oh, and bitching about Ravelry? Must be a day that ends in Y.
PL: I've got a few patterns up on Ravelry and PayHip. Guess where I've made all my sales? If you guessed Ravelry you get this shiny
because that's where all the knitters are.ETA: these tweets I just saw. These people.
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Yeah, as someone who crochets lace mostly, blocking is pretty important, but yes it is true that it requires a lot of space depending on how big the piece is that you sometimes don't have depending on where you live, especially if you have pets and don't have a separate room for crafting stuff. Still, this is just one person's opinion, she isn't the Word of God among lace knitters/crocheters, these people don't know how to take things with a grain of salt at all.
Luckily, I don't see a lot of drama among the Craft Yarn Council which is the organization that standardizes yarn and pattern notation. They do have this instructors certification program for knitting and crocheting that looks like a total scam. Why would you need a certification to teach people? From what I heard your assignments have to pass inspection to get the certification so it isn't like a certification mill, but still, why? Most people don't care. One of the things I hate is useless certifications and credentials that mean nothing.
Luckily, I don't see a lot of drama among the Craft Yarn Council which is the organization that standardizes yarn and pattern notation. They do have this instructors certification program for knitting and crocheting that looks like a total scam. Why would you need a certification to teach people? From what I heard your assignments have to pass inspection to get the certification so it isn't like a certification mill, but still, why? Most people don't care. One of the things I hate is useless certifications and credentials that mean nothing.
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"b-but disabilities" holy shit shut up and stop making disabled people sound like they're unable to do anything. I really do feel like people keep throwing disabled people into arguments to make their side seem rational but they don't actually care about disabled people. Where's the push for more ergonomic knitting styles? Why aren't people pushing for more ergonomic crochet hooks?
I have seen knitters develop a way to knit one handed and no one is talking about that.
Look at this person:
She got some tips (I have no idea why she thinks she has to bend down, I think she's just retarded) and she's going to try it again.
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Agreed. Disabilities doesn't necessarily mean you can't do stuff, it often means finding another way to do stuff. Or accepting that you can't do things and doing different things. I don't have space to pin out huge multi-skein shawls. So I don't do them. Simple as.
Most things don't need pinned out and stretched to be blocked anyway. Kate Atherley posts threads about this all the time because in a lot of cases stretching is the opposite of what you want. Most cases it's wash, lay flat, shape gently, let dry. Lace really is the only exception.
If you cannot get down on the floor use a table or a bed. Use a fan to speed up drying time. Buy a steamer (or use an iron) and pin it out on the bed, lace won't be as nice as wet blocking but it's quicker.
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I don't do crochet nor know how to make lace but people like this sounds lazy. Why make lace if you're not going to finalise it? Why start something that requires a level of commitment? Just don't do it!Just Lazy, Stupid and Godless alone probably. It's so big and high traffic.
There's more minor drama on Twitter. A designer Tweeted this:
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Most replies were agreeing with her, because honestly duh. Lace needs aggressive blocking otherwise it looks like shit.
One person though got their panties in a twist:
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:eyeroll:
Though the second commenter has a point about gifts that need special care IMO.
This prompted said designer to backtrack her statement (weak sauce).
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Which leads me to these subtweets:
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Whatever.
Oh, and bitching about Ravelry? Must be a day that ends in Y.
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PL: I've got a few patterns up on Ravelry and PayHip. Guess where I've made all my sales? If you guessed Ravelry you get this shiny
ETA: these tweets I just saw. These people.
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Problem solved.
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This is knitted lace we're talking about, but it applies to crochet too. The thing with lace, at least with natural fibers, is that the holes and details disappear because the fabric contracts and generally looks like a mess.
To make your project look great you need to soak it in water, and stretch it waaaaaay out, pin it in place and let it dry. The difference is night and day.
See here for examples.
I mean, there's no knitting police. If you don't want to block your lace? Don't. It's your project. But it's going to look like crap compared to what it could look like, so don't complain to the designer (which is apparently what set this whole thing off).
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Wow, I see what you mean! They look really cool!
People have the time and effort to make lace but they don't have those cheap foam puzzle blocks nor the time to finalise their projects?