Cultcow Russell Greer / Mr. Green / @ just_some_dude_named_russell29 / A Safer Nevada PAC - Swift-Obsessed Sex Pest, Convicted of E-Stalking, "Eggshell Skull Plaintiff" Pro Se Litigant, Homeless, aspiring brothel owner

[AnOminous]

That Red Bull media situation is an indictment on the whole of the USA, surely. I’d love it if a USA lawfag could explain what really happened, because SURELY no court accepted that dumbfucks thought they would grow wings if they drank it. I bet it’s a media creation, like they did about the woman who was severely burned by a drive-through coffee.

That article is a little deceptive, because it implies that people believed that they would literally physically grow wings. This was not a claim in the lawsuit. The claim was that it falsely implied, not just with the "wings" slogan but with other claims that it would improve your reaction speed and physical stamina, completely unsubstantiated claims.

Also it was a settlement over a large class and while $13 million sounds ridiculous, it's nuisance value for that kind of claim and that huge of a company. The settlement, $10 for any Red Bull drinker who actually sacrificed their dignity to fill in the claim form by claiming they were idiots who thought an energy drink would actually give them wings, was probably a fraction of whatever those drinkers had spent on them over the years.

Here's the actual settlement btw: https://web.archive.org/web/20151208032000/http://www.energydrinksettlement.com/

 

[artilleryfroth]

That article is a little deceptive, because it implies that people believed that they would literally physically grow wings. This was not a claim in the lawsuit. The claim was that it falsely implied, not just with the "wings" slogan but with other claims that it would improve your reaction speed and physical stamina, completely unsubstantiated claims.

Also it was a settlement over a large class and while $13 million sounds ridiculous, it's nuisance value for that kind of claim and that huge of a company. The settlement, $10 for any Red Bull drinker who actually sacrificed their dignity to fill in the claim form by claiming they were idiots who thought an energy drink would actually give them wings, was probably a fraction of whatever those drinkers had spent on them over the years.

Here's the actual settlement btw: https://web.archive.org/web/20151208032000/http://www.energydrinksettlement.com/

I knew somebody could give us the reality. Thank you!

 

[AnOminous]

I knew somebody could give us the reality. Thank you!

And to be fair I do think it's ridiculous that people can be sued for such obvious "puffery," which does not mean remotely what Russ thinks it means, it's not really an enormous injustice. Some Red Bull customers got $10 for free. And probably spend some of that on a Red Bull.

 

[BluntyBitch]

Did you see his shirt in the "I Get You" early pitch?

Just skip through and look at the front of his shirt.

1i had forgotten how funny this was!

So firstly, he keeps looking up at the camera and it reflects in his glasses - CREEPY. don't you have your own song memorized Russ? U don't need a teleprompter with actual music on your kindle do you? Seriously the chords were middle school shit, late elementary if you had an early start in piano

At 9minites towards the end he is banging his tard hands on octaves in his left I'm dead! , and also does the creepy look at the camera thing.

The clicking of his chintsy keyboard keys, it's louder than the damn shitty speaker in that keyboard, sheesh. the crappy slide he did, like how do you screw up a piano slide??? Well Russell managed, it was... Inconsistent, for a second or two flashy show of a trick or something. It didn't sound good, the slide is to accentuate the note it's leading to, it's a buildup, it's not meant to stand out until it's over and you're back on Do (or So, but Rustie like major keys cuz they're the only type of key he has mastered, hence his obsession with pop music, as all those songs are written by monkeys who throw darts at the pop song formula boards, because pop music is hilariously easy as fuck if you're a musician, fuck even most pop songs have cheap sheet music with lyrics and chords and basic piano parts. It's where Rustie learned the rare art of the ability to read music)

omg there is so much to shit on Russell but musically he's such a terrible terrible player,
Not like we knew he wasn't a joke.

Maybe he's born with it. Maybe it's Moebius.

Unironically, the several famous and successful and funny and married Moebius folks that have come up in this thread, could wear this shirt and actually pull it off,because their personalities arent infected by whatever infected pipsqueak.

Not Rustie tho.

There's both a family guy episode and a American dad episode where Peter and Roger want to get roasted but get all butthurt cuz they want the power and prestige that comes with the ability to have oneself roasted, but oif course do not understand that the point of roasting is to tell hilarious ly mean jokes about the man of the hour.

This is the legal argument equivalent of "my mom said I'm handsome!"

"My birth adopted Mommy says I'm speshul!"

 

[RodgerDodger]

This is the legal argument equivalent of "my mom said I'm handsome!"

I love the way he presented his Copyright Clown Lawyers in the Null lolsuit asif they endorse his actions here.

 

[pr3nt177]

I knew somebody could give us the reality. Thank you!

The point being really, yeah many will have gone in on the lawsuit for any possible $$ to be had, some genuinely disappointed in the stamina angle but I bet there were a few that believed the slogan...nowt as queer as folk, as they say around here.

My only surprise was that the UK allowed the advertising - Trade Descriptions Act / Advertising Standards Authority (ASA).

 

[artilleryfroth]

And to be fair I do think it's ridiculous that people can be sued for such obvious "puffery," which does not mean remotely what Russ thinks it means, it's not really an enormous injustice. Some Red Bull customers got $10 for free. And probably spend some of that on a Red Bull.

Totally agree.
Russ though, should get costs against him for various reasons, including his use of “puffery”.
We wish.

 

[Fwiffo]

1i had forgotten how funny this was!

So firstly, he keeps looking up at the camera and it reflects in his glasses - CREEPY. don't you have your own song memorized Russ? U don't need a teleprompter with actual music on your kindle do you? Seriously the chords were middle school shit, late elementary if you had an early start in piano

At 9minites towards the end he is banging his tard hands on octaves in his left I'm dead! , and also does the creepy look at the camera thing.

The clicking of his chintsy keyboard keys, it's louder than the damn shitty speaker in that keyboard, sheesh. the crappy slide he did, like how do you screw up a piano slide??? Well Russell managed, it was... Inconsistent, for a second or two flashy show of a trick or something. It didn't sound good, the slide is to accentuate the note it's leading to, it's a buildup, it's not meant to stand out until it's over and you're back on Do (or So, but Rustie like major keys cuz they're the only type of key he has mastered, hence his obsession with pop music, as all those songs are written by monkeys who throw darts at the pop song formula boards, because pop music is hilariously easy as fuck if you're a musician, fuck even most pop songs have cheap sheet music with lyrics and chords and basic piano parts. It's where Rustie learned the rare art of the ability to read music)

omg there is so much to shit on Russell but musically he's such a terrible terrible player,
Not like we knew he wasn't a joke.



Unironically, the several famous and successful and funny and married Moebius folks that have come up in this thread, could wear this shirt and actually pull it off,because their personalities arent infected by whatever infected pipsqueak.

Not Rustie tho.

There's both a family guy episode and a American dad episode where Peter and Roger want to get roasted but get all butthurt cuz they want the power and prestige that comes with the ability to have oneself roasted, but oif course do not understand that the point of roasting is to tell hilarious ly mean jokes about the man of the hour.


"My birth adopted Mommy says I'm speshul!"

My favourite is that sad little Charleston he does near the end.

 

[artilleryfroth]

And to be fair I do think it's ridiculous that people can be sued for such obvious "puffery," which does not mean remotely what Russ thinks it means, it's not really an enormous injustice. Some Red Bull customers got $10 for free. And probably spend some of that on a Red Bull.

It’s a bit vomitous to see Russ call his lies “puffery” in context where he thinks he is a law expert.

 

[FernandoPooTragedy]

Is it weird that I've come to anticipate Greer drops almost as much as I anticipate my paycheck?

Pipsqueak needs the validation of others in these things because there is some tiny part of him that probably has some idea of how he is viewed, and this is how he combats that. Russ is a narcissistic piece of shit and very, very stupid, but he's not a sociopath. He knows morality and that for people it matters, he just doesn't think he should be judged by those standards, so he needs the appearance of other people agreeing to it to try and argue his points.

Unfortunately for him, his points are so mind-blowingly stupid that it makes it clear that these people who agree with him either don't exist or don't actually agree with him. But he's too stupid to figure that tidbit out.

 

[Constellationzero]

Oh my days. This arsehole (who is now claiming discrimination under the ADA, mind) seriously wanted to go on prime time TV and say the third step to overcoming your disability is to fucking DANCE lmao

(also, Mobious is a new one)

ETA: Now with more actual dancing, in a way that helps with your disability.

Charleston! Charleston! Made in Twain Estates!
Some dance, some prance
I'll say there's nothing finer than the


Charleston, Charleston, gee how you can spittle;
Every step you do, makes my Pipsqueak drool.
With my PowerPoints, I look like a fool!


Lump dance, plight dance will be a back number;
But the Charleston, the new Charleston,
That dance is surely a comer.


Sometime, you'll dance it one time,
That dance called Charleston,
Made in Twain Estates!

 

[REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!]

Oh my days. This arsehole (who is now claiming discrimination under the ADA, mind) seriously wanted to go on prime time TV and say the third step to overcoming your disability is to fucking DANCE lmao

(also, Mobious is a new one)

ETA: Now with more actual dancing, in a way that helps with your disability.

My life is complete, I can die happy now. That was truly a gift, our cups runeth over!

 

[Bridgeburner]

Laughing at Rusty aside, what will happen when arbitration comes? Are documents for that also public?

 

[AnOminous]

Laughing at Rusty aside, what will happen when arbitration comes? Are documents for that also public?

No and under the JAMS Rules, the proceedings are private and confidential, and the arbitrator can issue further orders.


I can think of a few people who would have a direct interest. Anyone who qualified to appear could lose their spot if the Arbitrator forced Fremantle to put on Ratface. It also says the Arbitrator "may" exclude any non-Party. So if anyone figured out how to find out when it was happening, it's possible they'd let you attend, but my guess is they probably wouldn't if either party objected. I guarantee Russ would object.

So anyone contemplating trying that, don't drive too far.

 

[Useful_Mistake]

Also wanna throw my hat in the ring of appreciation for @Useful_Mistake, you've brought more to this thread in the past couple months than most people have for years.

EDTI TO ADD; Many many thanks to @Useful_Mistake, @The Great Citracett, @AnOminous, @GargoyleGorl, and all the others who contribute so much great stuff to this thread.

Big shout out to @Useful_Mistake for helping us normies understand.

You're welcome.

I bet it’s a media creation, like they did about the woman who was severely burned by a drive-through coffee.

That did happen though, but the case was a lot more nuanced than "silly women do spill coffee do big mad lawsuit". The lawsuit is a nice expose on the horrible practices McDonalds employs, and the coffee was so hot that she suffered third degree burns in her pelvic region. She literally suffered over 10 grand in medical treatment for this, and wasn't fully healed either (at the start of the lawsuit). She ended up winning $200,000 in compensatory damages, which was reduced by 20 percent to $160,000. In addition, they awarded her $2.7 million in punitive damages

 

[Cheesegirl78]

You're welcome.

That did happen though, but the case was a lot more nuanced than "silly women do spill coffee do big mad lawsuit". The lawsuit is a nice expose on the horrible practices McDonalds employs, and the coffee was so hot that she suffered third degree burns in her pelvic region. She literally suffered over 10 grand in medical treatment for this, and wasn't fully healed either (at the start of the lawsuit). She ended up winning $200,000 in compensatory damages, which was reduced by 20 percent to $160,000. In addition, they awarded her $2.7 million in punitive damages

I have to admit I thought this woman was a grifter until I learned the extent of her injuries, what she really wanted from McDonald's and McDonald's responses.

She deserved every penny she got.

 

[Useful_Mistake]

Brief in Opposition to Request for Judicial Notice by Plaintiff Russell G Greer

Spoiler: Images

Molly is still not allowed to practice:

 

[cromit]

The only thing I have to add onto the thread at this point is that, even if Russ wrote the Hof statement, that’s not exactly ‘out of line.’ Attorneys write statements for witnesses to sign, affidavits for affiants to swear to, and even expert reports for engineers, doctors, and economists to put their names on, and that’s a normal part of doing business.

The difference is that nowhere in a legitimate affidavit will you see a “Mr. Hof believes.” He’s already signing the witness statement indicating he believes that, there’s no need to reiterate it. Also, affiants generally speak in first person when they do things like list their credentials (such as “I went to such and such school and got XYZ degree”).

The other thing, which I shouldn’t even have to point out but Russ literally is this stupid, is that whoever’s doing the legal drafting will at least TALK to the potential witness first to get the facts, and then put the draft by the witness to make sure it still represents the facts the witness needs to be ready to swear to. And we know Russ just made this shit up, in addition to being a shitty draftsman.

 

[Cheesegirl78]

Compares himself to Ted Bundy...

 

[Useful_Mistake]

The only thing I have to add onto the thread at this point is that, even if Russ wrote the Hof statement, that’s not exactly ‘out of line.’ Attorneys write statements for witnesses to sign, affidavits for affiants to swear to, and even expert reports for engineers, doctors, and economists to put their names on, and that’s a normal part of doing business.

The idea is that if Russ made this himself, he probably forged the signature too. Which is not good. I think that's what most people are going at

The other thing, which I shouldn’t even have to point out but Russ literally is this stupid, is that whoever’s doing the legal drafting will at least TALK to the potential witness first to get the facts, and then put the draft by the witness to make sure it still represents the facts the witness needs to be ready to swear to.

You would think so, but then again, Monica Rial and her lawyer forgot to ask their main witness. Her main witness testified against her and debunked her lies, all because they forgot to make a phone call to see if he'd be a good witness and just assumed that he would be. So, this does happen.