Canadian Truckers Convoy 2022 - The Leaf calls you a Nazi as he gasses you

[Zbk3VmLfujjzjxBd43tL]

They are already doing that, you can't kick them out and god forbid you not want one of the antifa fags in your business guess what you get hit with. Defamation and assault are crimes you go to jail. Your issue is the person who's doing it is being a jerk about it. Yes some people would have kept discriminating is forcing people who don't want to be near each other working out well today? The governments forcing it down your throat with a total monopoly of force and there is no private enterprise do to regulatory capture.

No, my issue is that people could discriminate against me. Barring exceptions like the gay cake thing (because he'd still bake a cake, just not one with that message on it), there is no reason you shouldn't serve me if you have a business and I am acting civil and lawful.

And yes, if Antifa acts civil and lawful, they should be served even at MAGA Cafe or wherever. The government exists to ensure a level playing field for everyone, which while some people take too far and use to justify UBI and shit, is generally a good principle. The fact a government might NOT be doing that is not an argument that a government shouldn't bother or shouldn't exist. That's where a fair democracy (not "Our Democracy") comes in, and if that doesn't work, then that's where protests like this come in.

Fact of the matter is capitalism is a force of nature, and if left unchecked will inevitably twist itself into monopolies, taking over governments, and every bit of nonsense we see today (supercapitalism). If a bit of slavery here and there stops these supercapitalists from denying me my rights because I'm not buying their product (Pfizer vaxx) or because of my political views, then crack that whip motherfucker.

 

[BrokLesnerd]

Although the feds have not invoked the Emergencies Act (because that requires consent from the mostly-conservative premiers, and when Trudeau asked, they told him to fuck off), I think most of the provincial mandates are technically legal on the basis of provincial states of emergency. Idk about your jurisdiciton, but I believe my province's public health extraordinary powers bullshit is nested into the state of emergency, which is why they refuse to lift it even though there is no emergency.

The premise of a state of emergency is that there is a pressing emergency, such as a major natural disaster or terrorist attack, which may require a faster response than the legislature is capable of legislating. That's fine, and those provisions should probably be there for when they are genuinely needed, but the laws are being abused in terms of the spirit of what the law is for. I cannot speak definitively about all provincial jurisdictions in Canada, but for many, a state of emergency is, by law, two weeks long, and then it ends. Where it gets silly is that, two years in, they will have renewed the state of emergency about 50 times in a row. There is absolutely no way that there are new, emergent aspects of this "emergency," two years into this. Whatever needs to be done can and must be done legally through the legislature. The reason this is technically legal is because the provincial state of emergency laws are written extremely poorly. It should obviously be illegal for a state of emergency to be renewed ad infinitum, along with all the suspensions of our rights and liberties that entails.

I think an interesting legal model can be found in the EU, of all places. They have the Schengen Area for visa-free travel, and they really do not want to suspend that because it kind of breaks the EU. Nevertheless, they have an emergency suspension clause that can be activated in an emergency. Those who designed this law, as aforementioned, really did not want this to be abused and renewed ad infinitum, so there is a built-in sunset clause. They have an initial use, then it can be renewed a certain amount up to a soft limit where certain legal tests need to be met, if met then it can be renewed a bit more, and finally it is automatically cancelled if it goes too long. I would be in favour of changing Canadian provincial state of emergency law in this manner, because there is clearly no emergency by definition,

and yet it keeps getting renewed for years straight because politicians are addicted to their emergency powers, and there are seemingly no checks/balances in place to make them go back to normal.

Sure, emergency powers are reasonable as a concept. But you still have to be able to demonstrate an actual emergency. OG Pandemic Covid, with it's 0.0007% transmission rate and 94% survival rate for at-risk populations, is not an emergency.

None of this is legal or reasonable when scrutinized. The only real path forward is to dissolve parliament and dismiss the Governor General, have the Queen herself use the Notwithstanding Clause to delete the Notwithstanding Clause and implement proper codified separation of federal and regional powers along with a presumption of wellness to guarantee that health is treated like law and forever based on evidence and not speculation, then appoint a new Governor General and hold elections.

That will never happen, so the options are civil war leading to a new nation or eternal serfdom.

 

[Pissmaster]

The internet has the power to turn anyone with enough braincells and motivation into a genuine polymath. I have learned musical instruments, how to build/fix things, how to pick locks, how to code, etc etc all for basically free from the internet. Yet somehow it's just used as a path to porn, vidya, hugboxes, and outrage fuel by most people today.

It boggles my mind how so many people aren't self sufficient, especially when outside of literal disability there is no excuse to not be a god damned renaissance man. I'll bet most of that trucker crowd has more real skills than anyone whining from their pod, both from their job and from using the internet as a tool and invaluable resource to get whatever shit they wanna do in their spare time done. I like to think every honking canuck is another AvE, bless that man and his many talents.

To play devil's advocate, I'm sure we could find someone from before the days of widespread internet saying the same thing about libraries. Libraries even had the benefit of being relatively bereft of distractions, unlike the internet, where you have to go out of your way to avoid so many things purposefully designed to distract you. Not to mention, most people out there really aren't tech savvy at all, and get intimidated by things you and I don't even think about, like navigating file systems by GUI. People who seek out knowledge by their own volition are very rare.

 

[BrokLesnerd]

Libertarian nonsense like this is basically inverted communism, where you're either a naive idealistic fool or an already powerful bastard using it to keep exploiting the world. It turns out that sometimes, freedom actually is slavery

No, retard. If some faggot in a white hood or a black ski-mask in summertime shows up to smash your business, they're trying to deprive you of your livelihood, which is the same as depriving you of your life. You take your rifle and shoot them as God intended. Demanding that the government dictate anything about the operation of private business other than basic warranty of service is asking someone else to take over responsibility on your behalf.

Some sorts of slavery are correct if it stops businesses from discriminating against me because of my race, gender, or political ideology. Isn't it slavery to make banks process GiveSendGo's payments? Isn't GoFundMe good since they liberated themselves from the slavery of serving people they don't agree with?

Dear exceptional individual, the issue isn't that GFM told the truckers to fuck off. That's their right. What's wrong is that they tried to keep the money to funnel to their pet monkeys to break things.

The government exists to ensure a level playing field for everyone

A "level playing field" is an equal opportunity to compete, not an equal opportunity to be served or an equality of outcome.

No, my issue is that people could discriminate against me. Barring exceptions like the gay cake thing (because he'd still bake a cake, just not one with that message on it), there is no reason you shouldn't serve me if you have a business and I am acting civil and lawful.

My labor. My choice who I serve. Period. You don't control me.

 

[Balr0g]

An interesting take from /pol/ that's making the rounds:

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In essense it is the Guerilla warfare motto: a guerilla fighter doesn't need to win a battle. He just need not loose the battle. And to put it more practical in this case: what if the goverment tries to tow those massive trucks? From what I heard if a trucker does not comply and simply breaklocks his truck then getting it away is nearly impossible. Unless they want to try and airlift those "tanks" and good fucking luck with that

 

[z0mb0]

No, my issue is that people could discriminate against me. Barring exceptions like the gay cake thing (because he'd still bake a cake, just not one with that message on it), there is no reason you shouldn't serve me if you have a business and I am acting civil and lawful.

And yes, if Antifa acts civil and lawful, they should be served even at MAGA Cafe or wherever. The government exists to ensure a level playing field for everyone, which while some people take too far and use to justify UBI and shit, is generally a good principle. The fact a government might NOT be doing that is not an argument that a government shouldn't bother or shouldn't exist. That's where a fair democracy (not "Our Democracy") comes in, and if that doesn't work, then that's where protests like this come in.

Fact of the matter is capitalism is a force of nature, and if left unchecked will inevitably twist itself into monopolies, taking over governments, and every bit of nonsense we see today (supercapitalism). If a bit of slavery here and there stops these supercapitalists from denying me my rights because I'm not buying their product (Pfizer vaxx) or because of my political views, then crack that whip motherfucker.

Iron rules gold. Governments control the corpos. They have a guaranteed income from you the citizen and all the guns. So what they discriminate against you? or me? or anyone? would they be successful? maybe, maybe not we'll have to let those natural forces decide. Pfizer can't make you do shit. The man with a gun and a badge can. And no if i had some antifa/blm type walk into my business i should be allowed to toss them right the fuck out. You don't have a right to anyone else's labor.

Sure, emergency powers are reasonable as a concept. But you still have to be able to demonstrate an actual emergency. OG Pandemic Covid, with it's 0.0007% transmission rate and 94% survival rate for at-risk populations, is not an emergency.

None of this is legal or reasonable when scrutinized. The only real path forward is to dissolve parliament and dismiss the Governor General, have the Queen herself use the Notwithstanding Clause to delete the Notwithstanding Clause and implement proper codified separation of federal and regional powers along with a presumption of wellness to guarantee that health is treated like law and forever based on evidence and not speculation, then appoint a new Governor General and hold elections.

That will never happen, so the options are civil war leading to a new nation or eternal serfdom.

Emergancy powers need to be clearly defined, enumerated and have concrete timers on them. otherwise you get the FBI which was made to fight the mob. now they are the mob.

 

[Juan's Sombrero]

Is there anything too faggoty for leftists to proclaim with righteous indignation?

Trick question?

 

[AGuntyPaajet]

https://twitter.com/TheRealKeean/status/1490906405851004930

OUCH: India's ambassador just eviscerated Trudeau over his cowardice and hypocrisy when dealing with the protesters. Trudeau tried to tell
@narendramodi
how to deal with their farmers, and then goes into hiding when his truckers rise up. #India

 

[Zbk3VmLfujjzjxBd43tL]

Capitalism is small business and free markets. Once you have large corporations that are granted special privileges and are allowed to influence, guide, or even purchase policy from the government, you've crossed the bridge into Corporatism, which is just another word for Fascism.

If the government didn't prop them up most of those big corps. would collapse and fall in on themselves though.

This is just as much special pleading as the TH-THAT WASN'T REAL COMMUNISM people use. Capitalism left unchecked takes over governments to advance itself. If no government exists, then it will form a structure that is a government in all but name. Because why shouldn't it? The goal is to make money.

Dear exceptional individual, the issue isn't that GFM told the truckers to fuck off. That's their right. What's wrong is that they tried to keep the money to funnel to their pet monkeys to break things.

Cool, so mass censorship based on political beliefs is good so long as you be polite about the money you stole. Why aren't you standing with the WEF anyway when you're actively advocating for the tools they use to enforce their neoliberal hellscape? Too many Jews?

My labor. My choice who I serve. Period. You don't control me.

Not yet, but corporate simps like you hiding behind the guise of "muh freedoms" are number two in the gulag right after the globalists and their simps because you're nothing but an enabler for them.

Iron rules gold. Governments control the corpos. They have a guaranteed income from you the citizen and all the guns. So what they discriminate against you? or me? or anyone? would they be successful? maybe, maybe not we'll have to let those natural forces decide. Pfizer can't make you do shit. The man with a gun and a badge can. And no if i had some antifa/blm type walk into my business i should be allowed to toss them right the fuck out. You don't have a right to anyone else's labor.

But I do have a right to your labor, because you're operating as a business that delivers a service and I'm doing nothing wrong. This is the same logic justifying the rule by the powerful that means no one processes your bank payments.

 

[BrokLesnerd]

concrete timers

That's a tough one to co-sign. I see where you're coming from, and I agree with your principle, but if you stipulate that emergency powers can only be active for, say, a period of 14 days, what happens if the emergency is still ongoing on day 15?

Ultimately, "emergency powers" shouldn't exist. In a significant enough situation to justify them, in the context of a legitimately free society, people will rise to the occasion without the insistence of government. Emergency due to violence? The militia should have that shit under control before the government is in a position to react. Natural disaster? Civic-minded people won't stop to consider laws before aiding each other. Economic instability? Free markets regulate themselves. As long as the government lets things take their course, the problem will work itself out. Public Health Crisis? People can sort that shit out for themselves via basic observation skills.

Emergency powers are only necessary when a government is allowed to supplant God while also being a Nanny, making the governed weak husks of what they should be. People dislike freedom because competition requires work. Too bad existence is competition against nature and entropy.

 

[Smity Werbenjagermanjensen]

Also to end my ‘everyone point and laugh at stupid Communists’ rant the next time you meet one ask them how Marx saw Communism coming about? Answer: he never figured it out. He decided it would be helped along by The Party somehow but not how capitalism would fail or what the superior Collectivist system would look like before he croaked. Result: there is no one standard set for what a successful Communist government is supposed to be BECAUSE NO ONE FINISHED THE FUCKING THEORY BEFORE IMPLEMENTING IT. This has led to hilarious times like the holodomor, the Great Leap Forward, the famines of North Korea, and can’t forget those fun times in glorious Venezuela. So yeah capitalism may not be the best system in the world and I won’t be one to rah rah for it but anyone past a teenager wearing a Che Guevara shirt is a laughable loser.

The fact that Communists still apply Marx's ideals to today's world is all you need to know to not take them seriously. When Marx wasn't six feet under, company towns were still common in Europe and were basically everywhere in the United States, company's could literally lock their workers in buildings with no emergency escape route, and worker's rights and safety wasn't a thing at all. Of course this still happens in shitholes across the world, but hasn't been a thing in the developed world for a century.

 

[Juan's Sombrero]

It's funny. Two years ago, CNN put out an article that basically said Covid would go down if reparations to black people were paid.

If you think that article doesn't exist, just Google it. It'll be the very first result.

 

[z0mb0]

This is just as much special pleading as the TH-THAT WASN'T REAL COMMUNISM people use. Capitalism left unchecked takes over governments to advance itself. If no government exists, then it will form a structure that is a government in all but name. Because why shouldn't it? The goal is to make money.

i can demonstrate my points. Your monopoly theory, and all that horse shit can be shown false as trust busting was irrelevent by the time it was used and when they broke up bell it was split amongst the family so it's not like they didn't still colude as a cartel only now with state backing.

Cool, so mass censorship based on political beliefs is good so long as you be polite about the money you stole. Why aren't you standing with the WEF anyway when you're actively advocating for the tools they use to enforce their neoliberal hellscape? Too many Jews?

No, violating a contract is why they are being sued. theft is still a crime dipshit. Yes the state enforced and ran banking cartels run the world. great job do i have to go back to the end the fed talking points here? also yes. not a fan.

Not yet, but corporate simps like you hiding behind the guise of "muh freedoms" are number two in the gulag right after the globalists and their simps because you're nothing but an enabler for them.

Your using freedoms as an unjustified concern proves what you are, sub par and needs someone to care for them like a child and im guessing a sped class one.

But I do have a right to your labor, because you're operating as a business that delivers a service and I'm doing nothing wrong. This is the same logic justifying the rule by the powerful that means no one processes your bank payments.

wrong is relative. You do not have a right to my labor you gibs loving fuck. THE PAYMENT PROCESSORS ARE A PRODUCT OF REGULATORY CAPTURE. They aren't processing it now and there's little recourse is there? your pointing to hypotheticals i can point to reality.

 

[BrokLesnerd]

This is just as much special pleading as the TH-THAT WASN'T REAL COMMUNISM people use. Capitalism left unchecked takes over governments to advance itself. If no government exists, then it will form a structure that is a government in all but name. Because why shouldn't it? The goal is to make money.

Cool, so mass censorship based on political beliefs is good so long as you be polite about the money you stole. Why aren't you standing with the WEF anyway when you're actively advocating for the tools they use to enforce their neoliberal hellscape? Too many Jews?

Not yet, but corporate simps like you hiding behind the guise of "muh freedoms" are number two in the gulag right after the globalists and their simps because you're nothing but an enabler for them.

But I do have a right to your labor, because you're operating as a business that delivers a service and I'm doing nothing wrong. This is the same logic justifying the rule by the powerful that means no one processes your bank payments.

You're an idiot trying to use reductivism to enable your desire to control others.

Libertarianism is small government, not anarchy. Government has one function; neutral arbiter of contracts. GoFundMe can remove whomever they want from their platform, they own it. But they don't have the right to take other people's money via fraud. You are retarded if you don't understand this, or do you believe that if someone knocks on your door and says they are hungry you are obligated to allow them to occupy your home indefinitely and to also feed them?

Criminal enforcement is simply enforcement of social contracts.
Anti-Trust enforcement is simply enforcement of fair competition.
Border enforcement is simply another form of criminal enforcement. If you don't agree to the social agreement of the people who live here, go somewhere else.

Corporations only gain the power they have because of government collusion. When people are allowed to compete fairly, that doesn't occur.

Human rights are negative rights. You to not have a right TO things, only to not have things taken FROM you.

You are not entitled to someone else's labor. You do not have a right to someone else's banking just because they offer the service to some people. You don't have to use credit, and you don't have to shop online. And when enough people are pushed out, a new service will emerge to serve that new market voluntarily. You're mentally deficient if you don't think scabs are willing to make their money from the untouchables.

 

[z0mb0]

That's a tough one to co-sign. I see where you're coming from, and I agree with your principle, but if you stipulate that emergency powers can only be active for, say, a period of 14 days, what happens if the emergency is still ongoing on day 15?

you start a whole new measure. not an extension. there would have to be agreed on time limits at the setting and phasing in and out and process.

 

[Two by Four]

To play devil's advocate, I'm sure we could find someone from before the days of widespread internet saying the same thing about libraries.

Spoiler: Off-topic

I'll agree that my sentiment isn't new and predates the Internet. However I can think of plenty limitations the library has which genuinely limit any one person's ability to learn.

You have to physically go to the library, depending where you live or if you are part of the filthy unvaxxed untermensch class this might not be an option.
Library needs to both have books on what you're interested in and a librarian to steer you to them. Big problem for niche, cutting edge, "illegal", or advanced topics.
You can't keep library books forever, or easily duplicate them.
Very few videos at library to demonstrate physical tasks.
Library isn't open 24/7

That's just off the top of my head, I'm sure there's more issues.

Now compare that to the Internet, where you can ask a search engine anything you like, whenever you like, and immediately find results. You maybe even a video of Pajeet explaining exactly what you need, and you can save all of this to read and re-read whenever the hell you want. I really struggle to think of any barrier to us all becoming Da Vinci-lites beyond motivation and IQ.

 

[BrokLesnerd]

you start a whole new measure. not an extension. there would have to be agreed on time limits at the setting and phasing in and out and process.

If it's an emergency you shouldn't be in a position to enact a measure. If you can sit down to do paperwork or make a proclamation, it's not an emergency.

 

[Dude Snakes]

Yeah Im still in shock over seeing this but it turns out the flag of Ottawa is a stylized 666, holy shit my city is run by satanists!

https://www.igocity.com/symbol/294/flag-of-ottawa-canada-3-sixes

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_Ottawa#/media/File:Flag_of_Ottawa,_Ontario.svg

 

[z0mb0]

If it's an emergency you shouldn't be in a position to enact a measure. If you can sit down to do paperwork or make a proclamation, it's not an emergency.

i'll agree in principal.

 

[Stoneheart]

I guess they did find a towing company to help the police out.

would be such a shame if they get doxed somewhere...