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On one hand I can appreciate Save the Loli's concern's over being denied festive cakes and services but we have to protect our right to tell people to fuck off. If a business is not willing to serve a demographic then that group should tell that business to fuck off. Then, in a fair system, the loli rescue brigade can start up their own cake business with blackjack and hookers that'll cater to their needs.
 
i can demonstrate my points. Your monopoly theory, and all that horse shit can be shown false as trust busting was irrelevent by the time it was used and when they broke up bell it was split amongst the family so it's not like they didn't still colude as a cartel only now with state backing.
So because the government fucks up once that means it can never, ever, work. The trick is to keep the powerful working for society, which giving them free market never does because they'll just take it over too.
You're an idiot trying to use reductivism to enable your desire to control others.
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Libertarianism is small government, not anarchy. Government has one function; neutral arbiter of contracts. GoFundMe can remove whomever they want from their platform, they own it. But they don't have the right to take other people's money via fraud. You are retarded if you don't understand this, or do you believe that if someone knocks on your door and says they are hungry you are obligated to allow them to occupy your home indefinitely and to also feed them?
Not remotely the same, and also stupid because you're begging the banks to censor you.
Criminal enforcement is simply enforcement of social contracts.
Anti-Trust enforcement is simply enforcement of fair competition.
Border enforcement is simply another form of criminal enforcement. If you don't agree to the social agreement of the people who live here, go somewhere else.
That's not always an option, because what if I break down passing through an area that hates me? Or more practically in this world, why should I live in fear that people can unperson me for my political views? "Just make your own finance system bro!" is not an answer.
Corporations only gain the power they have because of government collusion. When people are allowed to compete fairly, that doesn't occur.
Horseshit, they'll just make a government they want. The state of fair competition you speak of is akin to communism--it's a goddamn mirage that if you follow it leads you nowhere but being a useful idiot for cutting taxes on business and letting them censor people. Corporations are there to get rich, not play charity (insomuch as it serves them getting rich). They have no incentive to permit fair rules and every incentive to corrupt a government.
Human rights are negative rights. You to not have a right TO things, only to not have things taken FROM you.
This is just inverse communism. Sorry, I have a right TO life and a right TO freedom which implies I GET certain things by virtue of being human. Not your libertarian fantasy world where people starve because "it's a private business and you didn't pay the Pfizer vaxx tax".

You are not entitled to someone else's labor. You do not have a right to someone else's banking just because they offer the service to some people. You don't have to use credit, and you don't have to shop online. And when enough people are pushed out, a new service will emerge to serve that new market voluntarily. You're mentally deficient if you don't think scabs are willing to make their money from the untouchables.
You're living in fantasy land if you think this actually happens. Just look at how these payment processors and bankers work over the past decade. You are as much a useful idiot for the WEF as any Reddit commie and have as solid a grasp on human nature and economics as they do too.
 
So because the government fucks up once that means it can never, ever, work. The trick is to keep the powerful working for society, which giving them free market never does because they'll just take it over too.
It's more than once. it's every time.
That's not always an option, because what if I break down passing through an area that hates me? Or more practically in this world, why should I live in fear that people can unperson me for my political views? "Just make your own finance system bro!" is not an answer.
They're doing it now you fucking retard. whats your excuse?
Horseshit, they'll just make a government they want. The state of fair competition you speak of is akin to communism--it's a goddamn mirage that if you follow it leads you nowhere but being a useful idiot for cutting taxes on business and letting them censor people. Corporations are there to get rich, not play charity (insomuch as it serves them getting rich). They have no incentive to permit fair rules and every incentive to corrupt a government.
Neither does government. force is the greatest principal.
This is just inverse communism. Sorry, I have a right TO life and a right TO freedom which implies I GET certain things by virtue of being human. Not your libertarian fantasy world where people starve because "it's a private business and you didn't pay the Pfizer vaxx tax".
You're living in fantasy land if you think this actually happens. Just look at how these payment processors and bankers work over the past decade. You are as much a useful idiot for the WEF as any Reddit commie and have as solid a grasp on human nature and economics as they do too.
You have no idea how the banks work which is more and more apparent. you can be a nigger all you want but when you get nig tier results thats what you get. People starved a whole lot under communism. I'm a useful idiot for self interest, whatever. your a nigger and you know if people could they would shun you.
 
That's not always an option, because what if I break down passing through an area that hates me? Or more practically in this world, why should I live in fear that people can unperson me for my political views? "Just make your own finance system bro!" is not an answer.
You shouldn't be trespassing in places you're not wanted. Demanding that government have the power to censor someone to stop them from censoring you is giving the government the power to censor you. Neither group should have that power.
Horseshit, they'll just make a government they want. The state of fair competition you speak of is akin to communism--it's a goddamn mirage that if you follow it leads you nowhere but being a useful idiot for cutting taxes on business and letting them censor people. Corporations are there to get rich, not play charity (insomuch as it serves them getting rich). They have no incentive to permit fair rules and every incentive to corrupt a government.
Then you shoot them. In a truly fair market, corporations don't exist. People play fairly, or they get killed. Like it or not, but life is a game of dominance. "Corporations" only exist because governments have merged with certain interests to bias the field of endeavor. If all businesses were made to compete evenly, instead of some being given special rules regarding taxation, some wouldn't be able to disadvantage their competition.
This is just inverse communism. Sorry, I have a right TO life and a right TO freedom which implies I GET certain things by virtue of being human. Not your libertarian fantasy world where people starve because "it's a private business and you didn't pay the Pfizer vaxx tax".
Wrong. You don't have a right to life. You have a right not to have your life taken from you. You don't have a right to freedom. You have a right not to have other people impose their will upon you. It's up to you to feed yourself. It's up to you to cloth yourself. It's up to you to find shelter. You don't get shit merely for existing, bugman.
You're living in fantasy land if you think this actually happens. Just look at how these payment processors and bankers work over the past decade. You are as much a useful idiot for the WEF as any Reddit commie and have as solid a grasp on human nature and economics as they do too.
Banks are corporations that are enabled to exist by the government providing them with privileges within the market. The WEF couldn't do what it does without colluding with government, and it maintains its influence by enforcing an artificial monopoly on the use of force.

All you have done is advocate for a Nanny state, simply demanding that it pander to you instead of someone else. Congratulations, you have demanded the system that brought us to this moment.

you know if people could they would shun you.
Ah, the beloved ignore button.
 
No, my issue is that people could discriminate against me. Barring exceptions like the gay cake thing (because he'd still bake a cake, just not one with that message on it), there is no reason you shouldn't serve me if you have a business and I am acting civil and lawful.

And yes, if Antifa acts civil and lawful, they should be served even at MAGA Cafe or wherever. The government exists to ensure a level playing field for everyone, which while some people take too far and use to justify UBI and shit, is generally a good principle. The fact a government might NOT be doing that is not an argument that a government shouldn't bother or shouldn't exist. That's where a fair democracy (not "Our Democracy") comes in, and if that doesn't work, then that's where protests like this come in.

Fact of the matter is capitalism is a force of nature, and if left unchecked will inevitably twist itself into monopolies, taking over governments, and every bit of nonsense we see today (supercapitalism). If a bit of slavery here and there stops these supercapitalists from denying me my rights because I'm not buying their product (Pfizer vaxx) or because of my political views, then crack that whip motherfucker.
No, my issue is that people could discriminate against me. Barring exceptions like the gay cake thing (because he'd still bake a cake, just not one with that message on it), there is no reason you shouldn't serve me if you have a business and I am acting civil and lawful.

And yes, if Antifa acts civil and lawful, they should be served even at MAGA Cafe or wherever. The government exists to ensure a level playing field for everyone, which while some people take too far and use to justify UBI and shit, is generally a good principle. The fact a government might NOT be doing that is not an argument that a government shouldn't bother or shouldn't exist. That's where a fair democracy (not "Our Democracy") comes in, and if that doesn't work, then that's where protests like this come in.

Fact of the matter is capitalism is a force of nature, and if left unchecked will inevitably twist itself into monopolies, taking over governments, and every bit of nonsense we see today (supercapitalism). If a bit of slavery here and there stops these supercapitalists from denying me my rights because I'm not buying their product (Pfizer vaxx) or because of my political views, then crack that whip motherfucker.

To put it clear we're in a period of Uber capitalism and Uber Liberalism. Essentially western Liberalisms decay is creating a west that is either highly nationalistic or highly Marxist. All governments have a moral duty to ensure the rule of law. In a country like the United States we should have a rule of law that is as objective as possible. When it comes to the court system ideally no matter your class, race, or gender. One theoretically should get a fair trial. For the most part despite societal flaws it does work if pushed.
But one of the worrying trends that lolberts forget even ayan rand understood the concepts of emergency. Like if it's a warzone yeah it is a moral duty of the state or the powerful to instill law and order and rule of law.

You're an idiot trying to use reductivism to enable your desire to control others.

Libertarianism is small government, not anarchy. Government has one function; neutral arbiter of contracts. GoFundMe can remove whomever they want from their platform, they own it. But they don't have the right to take other people's money via fraud. You are retarded if you don't understand this, or do you believe that if someone knocks on your door and says they are hungry you are obligated to allow them to occupy your home indefinitely and to also feed them?

Criminal enforcement is simply enforcement of social contracts.
Anti-Trust enforcement is simply enforcement of fair competition.
Border enforcement is simply another form of criminal enforcement. If you don't agree to the social agreement of the people who live here, go somewhere else.

Corporations only gain the power they have because of government collusion. When people are allowed to compete fairly, that doesn't occur.

Human rights are negative rights. You to not have a right TO things, only to not have things taken FROM you.

You are not entitled to someone else's labor. You do not have a right to someone else's banking just because they offer the service to some people. You don't have to use credit, and you don't have to shop online. And when enough people are pushed out, a new service will emerge to serve that new market voluntarily. You're mentally deficient if you don't think scabs are willing to make their money from the untouchables.

I don't understand why people think libertarianism means no government. I think lolberts who don't understand the role and function of the state or worrying as they will leave the door for neo Marxists. It's like Austin in 2010 was a libertarian/liberal city Alex Jones was a city treasure. It was live free or die in Texas.
In 2022 it's now a shithole that feels like no one cares as the progressive rich kids became wine Karen's and moved away pricing out working class people even more.
 
On one hand I can appreciate Save the Loli's concern's over being denied festive cakes and services but we have to protect our right to tell people to fuck off. If a business is not willing to serve a demographic then that group should tell that business to fuck off. Then, in a fair system, the loli rescue brigade can start up their own cake business with blackjack and hookers that'll cater to their needs.
Don't you know? The Corporations will magically ensure that pederasts can't operate their own business without the assistance of government regulating competition out of the market or taxing competition out of business. That's why we need government to save us and ensure that other people provide services to us when we demand it!
 
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They are that dumb. This is the same kind of crowd that pushes CRT, they would go after kids 100%.
I didn't say it was stupid for a reason. Some things are self-evident and take more than mere stupidity to do. One of those things is fucking with people's children.

I don't think anyone would enforce such an order and no politician would have the balls to pull the trigger in the first place.
 
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I only said a private citizen doesn't have to serve you. if we all live under the government we all have should have the same rules apply. and a gov's duty is to protect property rights of its citizens. Wars, disasters and somthing like smallpox can all be classified as an emergency i only advocate extreme caution in giving the government power and not making it crystal the limits. i'm no ancap just like HHH's critique of the state. hoppe knew his shit
 
Don't you know? The Corporations will magically ensure that pederasts can't operate their own business without the assistance of government regulating competition out of the market or taxing competition out of business. That's why we need government to save us and ensure that other people provide services to us when we demand it!
Oh thank God. I was worried that if some asshole didn't want to serve me I'd have to pick up my balls and do something about it myself.
 
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I only said a private citizen doesn't have to serve you. if we all live under the government we all have should have the same rules apply. and a gov's duty is to protect property rights of its citizens. Wars, disasters and somthing like smallpox can all be classified as an emergency i only advocate extreme caution in giving the government power and not making it crystal the limits. i'm no ancap just like HHH's critique of the state. hoppe knew his shit
Just ignore that nigger, too.
 
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Yeah if the gov't tries this things will go from peaceful to violent. I pray then that the police/military break ranks and arrest Trudeau if he suggests this. Taking away people's children for peacefully protesting is the actions of a very desperate regieme. Please Lord Jesus don't let it come to this!
 
I think I've been drinking too much... I swear Broklesnerd and Save the Loli are actually agreeing with each other yet they think they aren't?
No. Pederast demands that someone else force people to provide them service. I think people should be left alone. Property rights all extend from ownership of self. If your labor can be compelled to be given to another, you don't own you.

Yeah if the gov't tries this things will go from peaceful to violent. I pray then that the police/military break ranks and arrest Trudeau if he suggests this. Taking away people's children for peacefully protesting is the actions of a very desperate regieme. Please Lord Jesus don't let it come to this!
We're past that. He was desperate when he restricted the ability of the people to obtain passports and allowed provinces to restrict movement. Rule of Law died two years ago.
 
So because the government fucks up once that means it can never, ever, work. The trick is to keep the powerful working for society, which giving them free market never does because they'll just take it over too.


((Governments have worse track records then free markets. Governments are great at drawing borders, declaring war, building militaries, collecting taxes and etc..
Even if you have good, smart, and benevolent people running the government. Who is to say their replacement won't just be an exceptional idiot and tank things and leave while the getting is still good.))

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Not remotely the same, and also stupid because you're begging the banks to censor you.

((In a ideal world there would be plenty of options when it comes to banking. But we unfortunately have a large and mass concentration of wealth and power that allows a bunch of janny trannies, Karen's, and overpaid bugmen to run the world so to speak.))

That's not always an option, because what if I break down passing through an area that hates me? Or more practically in this world, why should I live in fear that people can unperson me for my political views? "Just make your own finance system bro!" is not an answer.
((You make arguments here. At the same time just building your own finance system isn't a feasible option yet. If you serve the public you should be expected to serve all members of the public unless there is a legitimate reason. Ie you have a tresspass order against this person.))

Horseshit, they'll just make a government they want. The state of fair competition you speak of is akin to communism--it's a goddamn mirage that if you follow it leads you nowhere but being a useful idiot for cutting taxes on business and letting them censor people. Corporations are there to get rich, not play charity (insomuch as it serves them getting rich). They have no incentive to permit fair rules and every incentive to corrupt a government.
((Well build and start working, collectively organizing and build your own parallel institutions then long-term. The only way to destroy this generation of elite long term is undermine them. It's not going to happen overnight that just doesn't occur. Corporations have one goal aquire power like all systems even the us and Canadian governments bastions of liberal democracies as prone to leaders trying to aquire more power then needed. Inequality won't be fixed by any moderate reforms. It's only solved by disease, disaster, war, and revolution.))


This is just inverse communism. Sorry, I have a right TO life and a right TO freedom which implies I GET certain things by virtue of being human. Not your libertarian fantasy world where people starve because "it's a private business and you didn't pay the Pfizer vaxx tax".
((Except more people starve in a world where the government has more regulations then a near anarchy systems. Markets ie normal people, businesses, and etc.. are more efficient at running the market then let's say the organization of economic affairs. There is a reason why communist countries tended to fail within 40-80 years meanwhile capitalist/mixed market economies work better.
People tend to be more apathetic when the government does something. Meanwhile people love to get involved in charity and community. A fascist or strict corporatist approach is what we're in.


You're living in fantasy land if you think this actually happens. Just look at how these payment processors and bankers work over the past decade. You are as much a useful idiot for the WEF as any Reddit commie and have as solid a grasp on human nature and economics as they do too.
 
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Trudeau would. He's not the one who has to enforce it.
With how he looks lately I think he's worried he won't live as long as his Cuban father did.

As far as the lolbert argument, I think everyone's talking past each other instead of interacting with each other's ideas. @Save the Loli and @BrokLesnerd both make good points.
 
I think I've been drinking too much... I swear Broklesnerd and Save the Loli are actually agreeing with each other yet they think they aren't?
Well I think they both agree the system's fucked but can't agree about what's wrong with it. All I know is that without the capital letters I read BrokLesnerd as Brokle Snerd and that amuses me too much.
 
With how he looks lately I think he's worried he won't live as long as his Cuban father did.

As far as the lolbert argument, I think everyone's talking past each other instead of interacting with each other's ideas. @Save the Loli and @BrokLesnerd both make good points.
No. There is no value in the argument that self ownership should be regulated by the state. Any such regulation nullifies the concept of self ownership.
 
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