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[jje100010001]

I am going to be a bit more white pilled. I think we are going to see a little bit less woke shit coming from games for a while. A lot of the woke shit we saw happened when the economy was one of the best in decades. People had money to burn and didn't seem to care what they bought meaning that studios can shove "The Message" into whatever game they made. Now the economy is in the tank and games are more expensive now meaning gamers will be more picky with what they buy. Not only that but in leak emails to investors many of these studios admitted that woke shit sells poorly but beating the masses over the head with "The Message" was more important then sales. With the war between Sony and Microsoft they are going to have to choose what is more important. "The Message" or profits. In the end greed always wins out. Sure, games like God of Soy and Horizon Nicocado are going to be woke. However, those games where in development before the economy tanked and the war between Sony and Microsoft happened. I am going to be white pilled and believe that games that are going to go into development in the future will have less woke shit.

Maybe, though there are many examples of failing companies going woke, and the last things ideologues care about is a good product.

Yes, corporate cares, but the true believers will still try to work their message into their material.

Secondly, I am honestly wondering where the Overton window has settled- it definitely has moved left in some areas despite conservatives' best efforts, i.e. in gender and sexuality. This may ultimately mean that who we might see as radicals are now socially acceptable.

 

[Mooger Meng]

Maybe, though there are many examples of failing companies going woke, and the last things ideologues care about is a good product.

Yes, corporate cares, but the true believers will still try to work their message into their material.

Secondly, I am honestly wondering where the Overton window has settled- it definitely has moved left in some areas despite conservatives' best efforts, i.e. in gender and sexuality. This may ultimately mean that who we might see as radicals are now socially acceptable.

I recall hearing how back in the day, theatre companies that were about to go under would try to stage a production of Macbeth to try and turn their fortunes around. These efforts would usually crash and burn, and sometimes due to negligence, incompetence, or just plain inexperience, somebody would fucking die during a rehearsal. This happened enough that even the name Macbeth became a taboo within the acting circuit, instead being referred to as The Scottish Play and causing anyone working on a production of it that wasn't dogshit to take up all manner of silly rituals to stave off the "curse", much like tabletop gamers will sometimes go to silly lengths to try and appease the Dice Gods.
By the pricking of my thumbs, something woked this way comes...

 

[ZMOT]

Maybe, though there are many examples of failing companies going woke, and the last things ideologues care about is a good product.

Yes, corporate cares, but the true believers will still try to work their message into their material.

Secondly, I am honestly wondering where the Overton window has settled- it definitely has moved left in some areas despite conservatives' best efforts, i.e. in gender and sexuality. This may ultimately mean that who we might see as radicals are now socially acceptable.

at some point those people will be kicked out, not necessarily after cleaning house day of the rope style, but either the company goes under or pulls the ripcord and re-evaluates the contribution of meritless hacks that were a big reason for the downward trend in the first place.

besides, a lot of those people are just opportunists for money, power or out of sheer ignorance. when it's suddenly hip and cool to hate niggers and jews they gonna be the first ones to polish their leather boots to virtue signal to the rest of the world how hip and cool they are. spineless scum without principle or conviction.

I am going to be a bit more white pilled. I think we are going to see a little bit less woke shit coming from games for a while. A lot of the woke shit we saw happened when the economy was one of the best in decades. People had money to burn and didn't seem to care what they bought meaning that studios can shove "The Message" into whatever game they made. Now the economy is in the tank and games are more expensive now meaning gamers will be more picky with what they buy. Not only that but in leak emails to investors many of these studios admitted that woke shit sells poorly but beating the masses over the head with "The Message" was more important then sales. With the war between Sony and Microsoft they are going to have to choose what is more important. "The Message" or profits. In the end greed always wins out. Sure, games like God of Soy and Horizon Nicocado are going to be woke. However, those games were in development before the economy tanked and the war between Sony and Microsoft happened. I am going to be white pilled and believe that games that are going to go into development in the future will have less woke shit.

that's the natural course of things that will happen inevitably, since as you mentioned at some point people won't have the money to afford a big enough space to store their funko pop collection, let alone buy it in the first place.

the question is what happens after that, and thanks to wokeshit and covid knocking over the already struggling retail space I don't see some things coming back, comics being one of them. the MCU made billions, which I assume that was because they have replaced the summer blockbuster movie of old and were actually enjoyable movies, not because it was featuring heroes most people didn't know or care about - even if you wanted to get into the comics themselves you suddenly were confronted with decades of material, and even if you thought "I'll just grab the most recent one" it was quite different from the movies, not to mention retarded woke shit. no kid was gonna read those, and if you were not growing up with superhero comics, what reason would you have to suddenly order them from somewhere (since most stores have folded by now)?

nostalgia is a big pull, so big that hollywood and videogames try to milk it hard now that they're out of ideas, but that doesn't work if there's simply no nostalgia for those things in the first place. how many kids do you expect are gonna buy star wars merchandise in 10-15 years? sure, there are still people creaming themselves when luke skywalker shows up, but again that's mostly nostalgia for a time when star wars wasn't complete dogshit.
so inevitably they will come up with new shit that isn't woke because they have to, but some things have been ruined for good, and it will take a long time to get that taste out of people's mouth, if ever.

 

[Dom Cruise]

besides, a lot of those people are just opportunists for money, power or out of sheer ignorance. when it's suddenly hip and cool to hate niggers and jews they gonna be the first ones to polish their leather boots to virtue signal to the rest of the world how hip and cool they are. spinless scum without principle or conviction.

This is dead on, many of these same people were making rape jokes with the best of them in the 2000s and if things changed in the future they'd be the first to go "oh, I was never Woke"

They're band wagon hoppers plain and simple.

 

[Begemot]

I am going to be a bit more white pilled. I think we are going to see a little bit less woke shit coming from games for a while. A lot of the woke shit we saw happened when the economy was one of the best in decades. People had money to burn and didn't seem to care what they bought meaning that studios can shove "The Message" into whatever game they made. Now the economy is in the tank and games are more expensive now meaning gamers will be more picky with what they buy. Not only that but in leak emails to investors many of these studios admitted that woke shit sells poorly but beating the masses over the head with "The Message" was more important then sales. With the war between Sony and Microsoft they are going to have to choose what is more important. "The Message" or profits. In the end greed always wins out. Sure, games like God of Soy and Horizon Nicocado are going to be woke. However, those games were in development before the economy tanked and the war between Sony and Microsoft happened. I am going to be white pilled and believe that games that are going to go into development in the future will have less woke shit.

You think Horizon Zero Dawn was woke? How?

 

[PaladinBoo]

You think Horizon Zero Dawn was woke? How?

No, the next one will be. Look at the character design for the main character. She looks like Nicocado Avocado. I think the main dev even said that they went out of their way to make the main character not be pretty because pretty girls can't be strong. Their words not mine.

 

[Resident Evil]

Spoiler: Autistic Rant

All I'm gonna say is this game's worst enemy wasn't even the politics- it's the pacing, man.
The goddamn pacing of this game is a little. Idk, fucking atrocious? It feels like it could've been 2 games or 1 game with at least some semblance of build up with Abby.

Contrary to most people I actually like Abby. They just made her human way too fucking late and as a result- no, actually, they do this with everyone. No time to process a death, just run and gun, with 0 time to mourn except in a flashback or remnant of them 5-10 hours after they died, in which by that point, I don't feel connected! I don't feel bad man.

Make me root for both of them and come back feeling somber. Instead of this depressing and desperate gambit to make me give a shit- hand me control of Abby. right at the start.

"Whoa, what the fuck, you penis. We literally don't know her. And why would we care." says the strawman stuffed so full he reflects the average american body type.

And, that's kind of what I want. We're not given context to her at first. She's making this journey with some randoms we'll get to know better as opposed to "OOPS! All meaningless deaths" we got in TOLU2. We get hints of who she was. She was a playful but adventurous girl who loved her boyfriend and wanted a future where one day she'd live a full life. Recently her father made a major break through but she never knew what it was. Forward a bit and she's grieving post genocide of the fire flies, and finds documents, evidence of contact, notes and footage all about the circumstances- some crazy fuck ran in and murdered her father and kidnapped someone who could've given her that life.

She sees white and all she is and becomes- anger, vengance, wrath. She ditches her boyfriend, trains up, roids out, practices all on her wn and begins recruiting friends and random wanderers to her cause- to find the cure and killed the man who destroyed her entire world and left THE world to die.

That man was Joel, and the cure was Ellie. We slowly get this information piece by piece until we get to the death scene of Joel, where that reveal is more explicitly made. It'd be like most of TLOU- understandable and horrifying, heart breaking. Joel puts up a hell of a fight but he's 1 guy against a small army. He was caught off gaurd.

Ellie is traumatized and in a sort of mix between Abby and Joel she goes on a murder rampage to hunt down Abby, murdering all her recruits one by one, driven by agony and fueled by a need for justice- or rather, vengance wearing it's mask. She drives away her wife, and in her pursuit to kill abby, has gotten rid of everyone who's alive and well with her.

They rock the shit out of each other until they're mutilated, bloody, and damaged, but when Abby sees the kill- she just. Doesn't go for it. She's broken. She's lost an eye. She just wanted to save the world, and now she's back at square one. Her mistake caused the 2nd firefly genocide, and she triggered it- it's in part her fault. Ironically, although she has lost her sight, her faults have become more clear then ever. This damages yet sobers her, as she momentarily takes care of an unconcious Ellie before going off as far as she can. Shes had enough of vengance for a life time- it broke her heart and the world in half twice for her- she can't afford it in life or death.

Ellie wakes up and feels. Pretty empty. Hollow. Hurt. She sobers up to near the banks, the fog rolling deep as her mind clears in contrast. She lost nearly everything and has not much of anything to show for it but severed fingers and body lacerated to hell. She drags herself through back her entire journey to come back home to a bitter Dina with her child. They work it out despite horrible tension, and they live a happy life, seeing their private home prosper. Rarely bothered. But she'll feel that pain forever in more ways then one.

Both of them will.

Vengeance is a vice, and they payed with their soul, their heart, body, mind, and their world as they knew it, for it.
It's not a happy ending in a way at all, but it's an ending where both realize their error and come back with that lesson unforgettably marked on them. It ends with Abby traveling across the united states to find her personal purpose and learn to have her dreams again, while ellie stays in her home, and tries to achieve her dreams right here where she belngs- with the people she loved- dead and living.

Someone's probably done this in thread and in more detail but I just wanted it off my chest tbh.

 

[PaladinBoo]

This is dead on, many of these same people were making rape jokes with the best of them in the 2000s and if things changed in the future they'd be the first to go "oh, I was never Woke"

They're band wagon hoppers plain and simple.

The same can be said with a lot of these people. Mortal Kombat received a lot of controversy back in the day for being being super violent and having the female characters be very sexualized. At the time it was the Religious Right who were calling for censorship. The devs for Mortal Kombat refused to give in to censorship and instead made the games more violent and the female characters more sexualized. At the time it was popular to go against the Religious Right so the devs of Mortal Kombat did just that. Now though being Woke is what is in so the devs for Mortal Kombat made the female fighters less sexualized and added Woke shit like Jax's Wakanda ending in the latest Mortal Kombat. All these devs are gutless trend chasers and when being Woke isn't popular anymore with the Left Wing circles they will go right back to making games violent and the female characters sexualized.

 

[ZMOT]

The same can be said with a lot of these people. Mortal Kombat received a lot of controversy back in the day for being being super violent and having the female characters be very sexualized. At the time it was the Religious Right who were calling for censorship. The devs for Mortal Kombat refused to give in to censorship and instead made the games more violent and the female characters more sexualized. At the time it was popular to go against the Religious Right so the devs of Mortal Kombat did just that. Now though being Woke is what is in so the devs for Mortal Kombat made the female fighters less sexualized and added Woke shit like Jax's Wakanda ending in the latest Mortal Kombat. All these devs are gutless trend chasers and when being Woke isn't popular anymore with the Left Wing circles they will go right back to making games violent and the female characters sexualized.

there was also no danger shitting on the religious right which were more or less considered fundie nutjobs, it didn't affect sales, PR or even personal lifes.

 

[Prester John]

Cuckman's dream standalone Abby sequel is very very unlikely to ever see the light of day and he only has himself to blame. He's not Hideo Kojima where he can be retarded and still succeed.

Wasn't he promoted to president of Naughty Dog? I would think the president of Naughty Dog would be able to push through his Abby sequel. If they didn't want him to have that power, they shouldn't have made him president.

 

[ZMOT]

Wasn't he promoted to president of Naughty Dog? I would think the president of Naughty Dog would be able to push through his Abby sequel. If they didn't want him to have that power, they shouldn't have made him president.

also puts a noose around his neck, if it bombs there's no one else to blame.

 

[Sekirodiealot]

I am going to be a bit more white pilled. I think we are going to see a little bit less woke shit coming from games for a while. A lot of the woke shit we saw happened when the economy was one of the best in decades. People had money to burn and didn't seem to care what they bought meaning that studios can shove "The Message" into whatever game they made. Now the economy is in the tank and games are more expensive now meaning gamers will be more picky with what they buy. Not only that but in leak emails to investors many of these studios admitted that woke shit sells poorly but beating the masses over the head with "The Message" was more important then sales. With the war between Sony and Microsoft they are going to have to choose what is more important. "The Message" or profits. In the end greed always wins out. Sure, games like God of Soy and Horizon Nicocado are going to be woke. However, those games were in development before the economy tanked and the war between Sony and Microsoft happened. I am going to be white pilled and believe that games that are going to go into development in the future will have less woke shit.

I wonder would woke shit die out like thr westboro Baptist church type conservatives did in the 2000s.

 

[Bob Page]

I wonder would woke shit die out like thr westboro Baptist church type conservatives did in the 2000s.

First time I've heard of the WBC in a long time, pretty much forgot about them after their old leader carked it. Yeah, part of me wants to believe all that would fizzle out like the WBC-type loons but... I dunno. Wherever the woke-twats go, like vampires, they'll suck anything fun out of whatever everyone enjoys.

 

[Syaoran Li]

I wonder would woke shit die out like thr westboro Baptist church type conservatives did in the 2000s.

Difficult to tell. Most of the power of woke comes from the fact that they're backed by the corporate elites that run the country and the neoliberal politicians who work with said corporations.

Most of the corporate bigwigs view the wokesters as useful idiots at most and I'd say most of the higher-ups don't actually believe in any of that crap. The only ones who I think might be "true believers" are Larry Fink and maybe Jack Dorsey and his Indian successor.

The Religious Right in the 90's were in a similar position where nearly all their influence on a national level came from the fact that neocons and their corporate allies backed the Religious Right as useful idiots but once they quit being useful, the corporate elites did a 180 on the whole thing.

Now, a lot of edgy trad LARP'ers and Zoomers will say that fundies dindu nuffin and the Religious Right didn't have near the amount of power as the Woke Left does, but there's actually a reason for that and it's not what the trads think.

The Religious Right was a lot more decentralized and so were the big corporations that backed them.

Back in the 90's, everything was a lot more decentralized whereas now you have about six or seven mega-corporations running damn near everything.

People were fed up with the fundies by the time that Clinton was reelected and it became fashionable to rebel against them and even after a brief second wind under Bush following 9/11, the rebellious sentiment became even stronger.

I'd say a lot of the same sentiment would be there against the Woke Left but because the powers backing it are a lot more centralized, any popular resistance is more easily quashed.

Plus the one advantage Woke has that the fundies didn't have is that they were in academia long before the corporate elites saw them as useful idiots. So they can more stealthily infiltrate.

Even with the academia strongholds taken into account, I'm not so sure wokesters would have gotten as far as they had if it weren't for the fact a tiny handful of massive and powerful corporations all are actively backing them up as useful idiots, unwitting pawns, and de facto shock troops.

If the corporate sector was as decentralized now as it was twenty or thirty years ago, the culture wars might be playing out differently.

 

[AnOminous]

I'd say a lot of the same sentiment would be there against the Woke Left but because the powers backing it are a lot more centralized, any popular resistance is more easily quashed.

The more pressure you put into repressing people, the more vicious they are when they finally unleash their resentment despite the pressure.

 

[Prester John]

Difficult to tell. Most of the power of woke comes from the fact that they're backed by the corporate elites that run the country and the neoliberal politicians who work with said corporations.

The Religious Right in the 90's were in a similar position where nearly all their influence on a national level came from the fact that neocons and their corporate allies backed the Religious Right as useful idiots but once they quit being useful, the corporate elites did a 180 on the whole thing.

Now, a lot of edgy trad LARP'ers and Zoomers will say that fundies dindu nuffin and the Religious Right didn't have near the amount of power as the Woke Left does, but there's actually a reason for that and it's not what the trads think.

The Religious Right was a lot more decentralized and so were the big corporations that backed them.

Back in the 90's, everything was a lot more decentralized whereas now you have about six or seven mega-corporations running damn near everything.

People were fed up with the fundies by the time that Clinton was reelected and it became fashionable to rebel against them and even after a brief second wind under Bush following 9/11, the rebellious sentiment became even stronger.

I'd say a lot of the same sentiment would be there against the Woke Left but because the powers backing it are a lot more centralized, any popular resistance is more easily quashed.

Plus the one advantage Woke has that the fundies didn't have is that they were in academia long before the corporate elites saw them as useful idiots. So they can more stealthily infiltrate.

Even with the academia strongholds taken into account, I'm not so sure wokesters would have gotten as far as they had if it weren't for the fact a tiny handful of massive and powerful corporations all are actively backing them up as useful idiots, unwitting pawns, and de facto shock troops.

If the corporate sector was as decentralized now as it was twenty or thirty years ago, the culture wars might be playing out differently.

Well, in a free market, non-woke alternatives could rise up and claim market share.

But we live in a world where big tech companies enjoy monopoly control over the means of distribution. We saw how Apple, Google, and Amazon coordinated to squelch Parler when it was starting to emerge as an alternative.

I don't think the market forces are working as intended in our current environment.

As for the entertainment industry, we live in the timeline where Captain Marble made over a billion dollars. Too many people will consume woke crap. It will course-correct, but it will take a long time.

 

[Marissa Moira]

No, the next one will be. Look at the character design for the main character. She looks like Nicocado Avocado. I think the main dev even said that they went out of their way to make the main character not be pretty because pretty girls can't be strong. Their words not mine.

They literally re-did her head in a later build

The whole thing is that the new mocap systems are supposed to capture the facial deformations of the actors and actresses themselves, so the faces have to be closer in proportions to real people because the skin weights/envelopes have to be similar.

The first initial reveal was more than likely fucked due to covid restrictions and they had to get something out because deadlines.

 

[Sekirodiealot]

 

[The Doom Slayer]

Yeah, speaking of, Sony gave a sales update for Horizon today...

And yet, still crickets for TLOU2's sales. Couldn't possibly imagine why.

 

[Marissa Moira]

Yeah, speaking of, Sony gave a sales update for Horizon today...

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And yet, still crickets for TLOU2's sales. Couldn't possibly imagine why.

20 million is roughly what the entire metroid series has sold over multiple decades in total.

TLOU1 is being rebranded into TLOU Part 1 supposedly, when the remaster hits with the supposed new name we'll probably get some updated numbers.