Russian Invasion of Ukraine (2022): Thread 1 - Ukrainian Liars vs Russian Liars with Air and Artillery Superiority

[Badungus Kabungus]

Will Putin actually fucking do it this time? I am constantly blueballed when it comes to this shit. All I want is a war in which the US is made to look incompetent and weak on the world stage.

Afghanistan wasn't enough of a shitshow?

 

[Super Book]

Will Putin actually fucking do it this time? I am constantly blueballed when it comes to this shit. All I want is a war in which the US is made to look incompetent and weak on the world stage.

I feel like Putin can still do that without a full scale war. Even if he pulls out he can easily spin the situation into Russia just doing routine military drills and paint the west as being a bunch of paranoid warmongers that were freaking out over nothing.

 

[AGPinochet]

Afghanistan wasn't enough of a shitshow?

I need more shitshows, I need bigger shitshows, I need the whole world to turn their backs on the Evil Empire that is the US. Shitshows involving Illiterate brown people is one thing, shitshows involving mostly literate white people AND Muh Russia would be amazing.

 

[Badungus Kabungus]

I need more shitshows, I need bigger shitshows, I need the whole world to turn their backs on the Evil Empire that is the US. Shitshows involving Illiterate brown people is one thing, shitshows involving mostly literate white people AND Muh Russia would be amazing.

Fair enough.

My wishes are simpler, I just want NATO to leave some surplus thermals laying around so my cousin from Odessa can hook me up. Also a UN blue helmet to use as a chamber pot.

 

[DumbDude42]

Afghanistan wasn't enough of a shitshow?

thousands of dead american soldiers, 20 years of wasted time, trillions of dollars worth of "nation building" efforts in the name of globohomo, all poured down the drain, and nothing to show for it lol

but the jews in washington never learn, they still see themselves as champions of a glorious new world order, and that will not change no matter how often they are rebuffed

 

[No Batty Boys in Jamaica]

Will Putin actually fucking do it this time? I am constantly blueballed when it comes to this shit. All I want is a war in which the US is made to look incompetent and weak on the world stage.

https://static1.squarespace.com/static/5f19ed0382525a1ca134124a/t/5f7d09c65a8dd315c8de38d3/1602030023380/Jean+Baudrillard%2C+The+Gulf+War+Did+Not+Take+Place+.pdf

It will not take place. There's a reason they always blueball you and leave you with non-events. It keeps people glued to the simulation and makes the whole system seem tangible and real without having to risk destroying it in an actual war.

Most likely, Biden and Putin negotiate and there is no invasion. Perhaps it comes down to a plebiscite or something involving buzzwords like national identity and self-determination.
Second most likely is a non-war, similar to what happened when Putin took Crimea or Abkhazia. Guaranteed victory, with the US/NATO drawing a line around the Ukrainian parts of Ukraine and letting Putin take the Russian-leaning parts that he doesn't already control. Ukranian military evacuates to the line. A few skirmishes, maybe one or two battles that would be considered tiny by WWII standards. Putin gets sanctioned to hell. Maybe negotiates some withdrawals in exchange for concessions. The rest of Ukraine joins NATO and Putin allows it in exchange for lifting the sanctions.

Least likely is WWIII.

 

[Sexual Chocolate]

China can’t take and hold Taiwan. It would be the biggest fucking bloodbath they’d face and lead to a shooting war with the US and much of the pacific. There’s no wiggle room with the US commitment to Taiwan. We will help them.

No, this is dumb (maybe we need a Taiwan sperging thread).

China can easily take, hold and assimilate Taiwan. It wouldn't even be a contest. They'd simply saturate the place with men, missiles and materiel, Taiwan's tiny, antiquated and yet highly corrupt military has no chance of stopping them.

More importantly, Taiwan isn't planning to stop them and doesn't have the stomach to try. They won't fight very hard or for very long, most Taiwanese are fatalistic about this. You can't win a fight you've already lost in your head. Here's what the Taiwanese army is actually like:

Yes, the inability of the ROC military, especially the Army, to fill its own ranks is a problem. But the trash they fill it with is an even larger one. I would ask ex-conscripts questions like, "Would you know how to find cover if you were ambushed?", "Were you ever trained on how to move around if the other side controlled the skies?", "Were you ever taught what to do if the guy next to you was shot in the arm?," "Did they ever tell you anything about the weapons, organization, or tactics of the PLA?" or "Did they teach you how to get from point A to point B without cell service, you know, using a map?" Negatives across the board. What they could tell me were stories of officers communicating orders through Whatsapp, time spent learning Army songs and doing yard-work instead of on maneuver drills, and how the totality of their marksmanship training consisted of firing one magazine from a single (prone) position on some eight to ten occasions.

The US will not fight a world war for the sake of Taiwan, any more than it will for Ukraine ( ). That's what strategic ambiguity means: a bluff. Bluffs can work just fine against third-rate shithole countries, but not so much when the other guy knows he can kick your ass.

The Chinese can already kick the US Navy's ass in their home field of the South China Sea. They're pumping out hypersonic missiles, capital ships and stealth fighters faster than the US and its allies put together. If war happened tomorrow, they would quickly destroy any carrier battle groups dumb enough to sail within striking distance. By the time Australia gets a couple of nuclear subs to annoy the People's Liberation Army Navy, sometime in the 2040's, the Chinks will have the largest and most modern navy in the world. Taiwan will be an obedient Chinese province long before then.

People don't always realize when an era ends. It took a series of escalating disasters, riots, shortages and military fiascos before the Roman Empire stopped being a thing, and there were Brits still dreaming about the sun never setting on their empire in 1945. The French even deluded themselves they could hold on to Indochina and North Africa well into the 50's and 60's. The US has been sleepwalking thru history since 1991, but even somnambulists wake up eventually.

 

[DumbDude42]

No, this is dumb (maybe we need a Taiwan sperging thread).

China can easily take, hold and assimilate Taiwan. It wouldn't even be a contest. They'd simply saturate the place with men, missiles and materiel, Taiwan's tiny, antiquated and yet highly corrupt military has no chance of stopping them.

More importantly, Taiwan isn't planning to stop them and doesn't have the stomach to try. They won't fight very hard or for very long, most Taiwanese are fatalistic about this. You can't win a fight you've already lost in your head. Here's what the Taiwanese army is actually like:



The US will not fight a world war for the sake of Taiwan, any more than it will for Ukraine ( ). That's what strategic ambiguity means: a bluff. Bluffs can work just fine against third-rate shithole countries, but not so much when the other guy knows he can kick your ass.

The Chinese can already kick the US Navy's ass in their home field of the South China Sea. They're pumping out hypersonic missiles, capital ships and stealth fighters faster than the US and its allies put together. If war happened tomorrow, they would quickly destroy any carrier battle groups dumb enough to sail within striking distance. By the time Australia gets a couple of nuclear subs to annoy the People's Liberation Army Navy, sometime in the 2040's, the Chinks will have the largest and most modern navy in the world. Taiwan will be an obedient Chinese province long before then.

People don't always realize when an era ends. It took a series of escalating disasters, riots, shortages and military fiascos before the Roman Empire stopped being a thing, and there were Brits still dreaming about the sun never setting on their empire in 1945. The French even deluded themselves they could hold on to Indochina and North Africa well into the 50's and 60's. The US has been sleepwalking thru history since 1991, but even somnambulists wake up eventually.

hard disagree on the military assessment. while the taiwanese forces are indeed not worth taking seriously, the chinese navy would get wiped off the map by the americans if an actual war were to break out.

 

[iNEEDthatMoney]

Putin is just a sad panda, seated between two near-eastern dictatorships, all alone, not even shown on his own Russian TV (because he was sleeping) Is that the uber macho superpower leader?

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Not wearing a mask like a boss, unlike the rest of the sheep.

 

[potato in mah painus]

I need more shitshows, I need bigger shitshows, I need the whole world to turn their backs on the Evil Empire that is the US. Shitshows involving Illiterate brown people is one thing, shitshows involving mostly literate white people AND Muh Russia would be amazing.

Man this is becoming my favorite phrase to parrot on this site:
"Be careful what you wish for, you might not like the results."

You think the US is bad, you have no idea the horror living under China's thumb is going to be like.

 

[Sithis]

No, this is dumb (maybe we need a Taiwan sperging thread).

China can easily take, hold and assimilate Taiwan. It wouldn't even be a contest. They'd simply saturate the place with men, missiles and materiel, Taiwan's tiny, antiquated and yet highly corrupt military has no chance of stopping them.

More importantly, Taiwan isn't planning to stop them and doesn't have the stomach to try. They won't fight very hard or for very long, most Taiwanese are fatalistic about this. You can't win a fight you've already lost in your head. Here's what the Taiwanese army is actually like:



The US will not fight a world war for the sake of Taiwan, any more than it will for Ukraine ( ). That's what strategic ambiguity means: a bluff. Bluffs can work just fine against third-rate shithole countries, but not so much when the other guy knows he can kick your ass.

The Chinese can already kick the US Navy's ass in their home field of the South China Sea. They're pumping out hypersonic missiles, capital ships and stealth fighters faster than the US and its allies put together. If war happened tomorrow, they would quickly destroy any carrier battle groups dumb enough to sail within striking distance. By the time Australia gets a couple of nuclear subs to annoy the People's Liberation Army Navy, sometime in the 2040's, the Chinks will have the largest and most modern navy in the world. Taiwan will be an obedient Chinese province long before then.

People don't always realize when an era ends. It took a series of escalating disasters, riots, shortages and military fiascos before the Roman Empire stopped being a thing, and there were Brits still dreaming about the sun never setting on their empire in 1945. The French even deluded themselves they could hold on to Indochina and North Africa well into the 50's and 60's. The US has been sleepwalking thru history since 1991, but even somnambulists wake up eventually.

Nice try chinkshill but despite our currently shitty leadership the US would still curbstomp China in a conventional war. Theres a reason they haven't tried to start shit just yet and are instead fighting us by subverting our culture, stealing our tech and poisoning our economy. But in a shit hits the fan, just got real scenario, unless they're willing to glass the earth full Judgment Day style with nukes, any major war they try to start will just result in hundreds of millions of dead chinks courtesy of the US having an annual near-trillion dollar war chest and the international community jumping in for old times sake. And no one, not even Russia, would be willing to go to war for them if it came down to it. Why go to war to protect someone who holds your debt when you can let someone else kill them off and take the chance that your debt gets forgotten?

Anyway this is the Russia/Ukraine thread let's all talk about what a faggot Putin is for not giving us our happening yet and speculate on the best ways to find incoming Ukrainian war brides

 

[DumbDude42]

Man this is becoming my favorite phrase to parrot on this site:
"Be careful what you wish for, you might not like the results."

You think the US is bad, you have no idea the horror living under China's thumb is going to be like.

us world order is so fucking gay, being a subject of red china unironically looks like a decent alternative for some

 

[Sexual Chocolate]

hard disagree on the military assessment. while the taiwanese forces are indeed not worth taking seriously, the chinese navy would get wiped off the map by the americans if an actual war were to break out.

Sad to say, they already have more than enough (and good enough) hardware to deny the US Navy access to Taiwan.

The situation looks something like this:


In a hypothetical reenactment of the Battle of Leyte Gulf, the (current) US Navy might win against the (current) PLAN, due to better training, more experience and some technological advantages the Chinks still don't have. But that's why China would just spam any US CSG with missiles until it sinks. The PLA Rocket Force - by itself - is bigger than most national armies. 100,000 men in charge of several thousand new and increasingly capable missiles. No combination of US / UK / Australian / Indian / Japanese ships could carry enough missiles and planes in theater to overcome China's home field advantage, the only way to defeat them would be total thermonuclear war, which nobody wants.

Essentially, it’s a way to delay and disrupt Russian plans and possible excuses they’ll try and make

US citizens fleeing Ukraine isn't going to delay or disrupt anything on the Russian side, and claiming it's to "stop a false flag" ( ) is weapons grade copium.

Idk why the Biden gerontocracy keeps releasing panicky statements, but the simplest explanation is they feel burned by the fall of Kabul and don't need any more bad headlines about US citizens left behind, should those pesky Russians invade (they won't). If they sound retarded, just remember these are the people who had Joe wish a "winter of illness and death" on Americans as a Christmas present.

Nice try chinkshill but despite our currently shitty leadership the US would still curbstomp China in a conventional war.

Lol calm down brother

 

[hooboy]

cool text wall chinkshill

 

[Ahriman]

Not sure if posted already:

Three days ago, in a jarring answer to a question from the media, Russian President Vladimir Putin said allowing Ukraine to join NATO would increase the prospects of a Russia-NATO conflict that could turn nuclear. Putin’s assertion, made in the context of a complicated hypothetical about an unlikely Ukrainian attempt to take Crimea back from Russia, came during a joint press conference with the President of France, Emmanuel Macron. With over 100,000 Russian troops amassed at Ukraine’s border, the conference was originally called to discuss ways to de-escalate the situation. However, about 45 minutes into the meeting, Putin made it clear there were some lines that could not be crossed without severe and possibly even nuclear consequences.

 

[Random Internet Person]

https://www.cnn.com/2022/02/11/politics/ukraine-russia-washington-white-house/index.html?fbclid=IwAR3r9jhy_g-gATCt0JJzuLLlE7YYH0hH7MEUBs2G3HpsCl3LttDtKIFWps4

https://archive.ph/pNqut

(CNN)President Joe Biden plans to speak with Russian President Vladimir Putin on Saturday, a person familiar with the matter said, as the US warns Russia could attack Ukraine using bombs and missiles at any moment.
The high-stakes talks come at what US officials describe as a critical juncture in the ongoing crisis. A significant increase of Russian ground forces and military assets have surrounded Ukraine, and Putin could decide at any moment to activate them into a deadly invasion.
He hasn't decided whether to act, the White House said Friday. But that has not stopped American officials from dramatically increasing their warnings an attack is now a "distinct possibility" and could occur swiftly.

Biden's phone conversation with Putin -- scheduled for 11 a.m. ET Saturday, according to the Kremlin -- will be his first since the end of December. Since then, the number of Russian troops near Ukraine has increased and the prospects of an invasion have increased, according to American intelligence assessments.


Putin has also engaged a series of Western leaders in talks that have so far appeared fruitless in defusing the situation. The Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs Friday accused Western countries and the media is spreading a "large-scale disinformation campaign," which promotes the thesis about an allegedly impending Russian invasion of Ukraine.
"At the end of 2021 and the beginning of 2022, the global information space faced a media campaign unprecedented in its scale and sophistication, the purpose of which is to convince the world community that the Russian Federation is preparing an invasion of the territory of Ukraine," the Ministry said in a statement published on its website, accusing Western nations and media outlets of spreading disinformation "in order to divert attention from their own aggressive actions."
US national security adviser Jake Sullivan said Friday the two men would speak by phone but didn't specify when. The President was planning the spend the weekend at the Camp David presidential retreat.
Earlier Friday, Sullivan warned a Russian assault on Ukraine could begin soon, beginning with aerial bombings and missile attacks. He advised all Americans to depart the country for their own safety as quickly as possible.
"Any American in Ukraine should leave as soon as possible, and in any event in the next 24 to 48 hours," Sullivan said. "We obviously cannot predict the future, we don't know exactly what is going to happen. But the risk is now high enough and the threat is now immediate enough that this is what prudence demands."
"If a Russian attack on Ukraine proceeds, it is likely to begin with aerial bombings and missile attacks that could obviously kill civilians without regard to their nationality. A subsequent ground invasion would obviously involve the onslaught of a massive force," he continued.
The warning came just before a senior defense official told CNN that Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin had ordered 3,000 more soldiers from the 82nd Airborne Division to deploy to Poland, joining the 1,700 already there. The soldiers are there to help Americans who may try to leave Ukraine.
The State Department is calling Americans in Ukraine to find out if they have plans to leave as the US continues to urge Americans to leave the country. Lee Humerian, an American living in Ukraine with his family and working as a missionary, told CNN that he got a call from the State Department Friday, asking if he had plans to leave the country.
The official asked if he read the most recent email from the State Department encouraging Americans to leave, according to Humerian. He told the official he had read it and he did not have plans to leave. Humerian registered with the State Department's program that tracks Americans abroad. The State Department did not immediately respond to request for comment about these calls.
Despite those warnings, Sullivan added that it's not clear if Putin has decided to invade Ukraine.
"I want to be crystal clear. A final decision has not been taken by President Putin, but we have a sufficient level of concern based on what we're see on the ground and what our intelligence analysts have picked up that we're sending this clear message and it remains a message that we have now been sending for some time. And it is an urgent message because we're in an urgent situation," Sullivan said.
Later, he said there was a "very distinct possibility" that Russia would act militarily, but couldn't pinpoint when or how.
"I'm not going to get into intelligence information, but if you look at forces in both Belarus and in Russia on the other side of the Ukrainian border from the north and from the east, the Russians are in a position to be able to mount a major military action in Ukraine in day now," he said.
Earlier Friday, US Secretary of State Antony Blinken said the US believes a Russian invasion of Ukraine could begin "at any time," including during the ongoing Olympics in Beijing. He also said the US continues "to see very troubling signs of Russian escalation, including new forces arriving at the Ukrainian border."

Abrupt Situation Room meeting​

On Thursday evening, Biden's aides attended an abruptly scheduled meeting in the basement Situation Room that was called in the context of Russia's escalating military buildup. It had not been organized in advance, a source familiar with the meeting said. Biden joined for part of the meeting.
Afterward, officials began warning publicly that Russia could invade Ukraine before the end of the Beijing Olympics, which conclude February 20.
"We continue to see signs of Russian escalation including new forces arriving at the Ukrainian border. As we've said before, we are in the window when an invasion could begin at any time should Vladimir Putin decide to order it," Sullivan said Thursday. "I do want to be clear, it could begin during the Olympics, despite a lot of speculation that it will only happen after the Olympics."
"Russians are in a position to be able to mount a major military action in Ukraine any day now," Sullivan said.
The urgent messages from Biden's top aides came a week after the administration had decided to no longer use the word "imminent" to describe the likelihood of an invasion.
"I used that once. I think others have used that once. And then we stopped using it because I think it sent a message that we weren't intending to send, which was that we knew President Putin had made a decision," press secretary Jen Psaki said.

US planning to pull observers from Ukraine, send troops to Poland​

The fears over an invasion has led to the US planning to pull its impartial observers from the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe mission in Ukraine as the security environment deteriorates, two sources familiar with the discussions said.
The Biden administration is also discussing the possibility of further reducing the number of staff at the US Embassy in Kyiv and pulling other US government employees out of Ukraine amid new US intelligence suggesting that Russia could move to attack Ukraine prior to the end of the Beijing Olympics next week.
The US has estimated that Russia has more than 100,000 troops near the Ukraine border, with thousands added just this week, according to an administration official.
"We're continuing to draw down our embassy," Blinken said during a press conference on Friday. "We will continue that process. And we've also been very clear that any American citizens who remain in Ukraine should leave now."
OSCE observers' "main tasks are to observe and report in an impartial and objective way on the situation in Ukraine; and to facilitate dialogue among all parties to the crisis," according to their website. They also have been responsible for tracking ceasefire violations in eastern Ukraine.
The US last month ordered the departure of diplomats' family members from the US Embassy in Kyiv and allowed nonessential personnel to leave on a voluntary basis.
CNN has reached out to OSCE and State Department for comment.
As the plans are made for the observers are made to leave Ukraine, the troops from the 82nd Airborne will be heading to neighboring Poland.
The soldiers will fall under the command of Maj. Gen. Christopher Donahue, who was the commander of forces during the final evacuation and withdrawal from Afghanistan.
Three hundred members of the 18th Airborne Corps have also arrived in Germany, the official said. They are under the command of Lt. Gen. Michael Kurilla, who's slated to be the next head of US Central Command.
This group of 5,000 troops will "reassure our NATO allies, deter any potential aggression against NATO's eastern flank, train with host-nation forces, and contribute to a wide range of contingencies," the senior defense official said.
On Wednesday, CNN reported that the White House has approved a plan for members of the 82nd Airborne in Poland to help Americans who may try to leave Ukraine. The troops will begin setting up processing areas and temporary shelters.

'The risk of conflict in Europe is real'​

Biden on Thursday urged Americans in Ukraine to leave the country immediately, warning that "things could go crazy quickly" in the region.
"American citizens should leave now," Biden said in an interview that was taped Thursday with NBC News' Lester Holt.
The President spoke with the leaders from Canada, the United Kingdom, France, Germany, Italy, Poland, Romania, NATO, the European Commission, and the European Council in a call that lasted more than an hour Friday morning.
Some leaders on the call later expressed concerns about the risk of invasion and urged the redoubling of diplomatic efforts with Russia.
NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg said in a statement that "the risk of conflict in Europe is real."
"Participants made clear that any further Russian aggression against Ukraine would come at a high cost, while reiterating that they were ready to continue dialogue with Russia," he said.
A Downing Street spokesperson said United Kingdom Prime Minister Boris Johnson had told allies on the call that he feared for the security of Europe due to the situation in Ukraine.
"He impressed the need for NATO allies to make it absolutely clear that there will be a heavy package of economic sanctions ready to go, should Russia make the devastating and destructive decision to invade Ukraine," the spokesperson said.
Later Friday, a British diplomat told CNN that staff are not evacuating the British Embassy in Kyiv, but they are "temporarily removing all nonessential staff and dependents" and "a core team will remain to continue with essential duties."
The French government said in a statement that the leaders on the call with allies discussed Russian military exercises that recently began in Belarus, stating that the "leaders remain extremely vigilant in this regard."
French President Emmanuel Macron and Putin will speak on Saturday, according to Elysee Palace.
Tweets from the German government about the meeting said "(a)llies are determined to impose swift sanctions on Russia, should there be further violations of Ukraine's territorial integrity and sovereignty" and that "(t)he goal is to prevent a war in Europe."
And the European Commission said the group had underscored its support for Ukraine and its final adoption of an emergency financial assistance package.
European Commission President Ursula Von der Leyen indicated that sanctions against Russia would concern the financial and energy sectors, as well as exports of high-tech products, according to a statement.
This story has been updated with more reporting.
CNN's Oren Liebermann, Barbara Starr, Kevin Liptak, Xiaofei Xu, David Wilkinson and Sharon Braithwaite contributed to this report.

 

[Still Anonymous For This]

No, this is dumb (maybe we need a Taiwan sperging thread).

China can easily take, hold and assimilate Taiwan. It wouldn't even be a contest. They'd simply saturate the place with men, missiles and materiel, Taiwan's tiny, antiquated and yet highly corrupt military has no chance of stopping them.

More importantly, Taiwan isn't planning to stop them and doesn't have the stomach to try. They won't fight very hard or for very long, most Taiwanese are fatalistic about this. You can't win a fight you've already lost in your head. Here's what the Taiwanese army is actually like:



The US will not fight a world war for the sake of Taiwan, any more than it will for Ukraine ( ). That's what strategic ambiguity means: a bluff. Bluffs can work just fine against third-rate shithole countries, but not so much when the other guy knows he can kick your ass.

The Chinese can already kick the US Navy's ass in their home field of the South China Sea. They're pumping out hypersonic missiles, capital ships and stealth fighters faster than the US and its allies put together. If war happened tomorrow, they would quickly destroy any carrier battle groups dumb enough to sail within striking distance. By the time Australia gets a couple of nuclear subs to annoy the People's Liberation Army Navy, sometime in the 2040's, the Chinks will have the largest and most modern navy in the world. Taiwan will be an obedient Chinese province long before then.

People don't always realize when an era ends. It took a series of escalating disasters, riots, shortages and military fiascos before the Roman Empire stopped being a thing, and there were Brits still dreaming about the sun never setting on their empire in 1945. The French even deluded themselves they could hold on to Indochina and North Africa well into the 50's and 60's. The US has been sleepwalking thru history since 1991, but even somnambulists wake up eventually.

Ukraine is a backwater nation whose primary exports are potatoes and ugly mail order brides. Taiwan is a first world nation whose primary exports are chips placed onto almost every computer on the planet. America sent thousands of young men and women to die in a landlocked shit hole for twenty years. You don't think they're going to wage a war over one of the most important economies on the planet?

The Chinese have the same principle issue that the Soviets, and to a lesser extent the Russians, had with their military: they overwhelmingly rely on conscripts to serve in their military. This means their NCOs are trash, so their junior grade officers have to perform the tasks of both an officer and an NCO. This would be bad enough, but the PLA has an even worse problem:

The stupid niggers have no central command. Armored divisions do not talk to rocket forces. Rocket forces do not talk to the Navy. The Navy does not talk to aviation units. Aviation units don't talk to amphibious forces. This is all by autistic design, because the only thing your standard Chink Commie fears more than other Chink Commies is his own military. Who fucking cares if you've got twenty thousand anti-ship mega hyper super awesome missiles if the fucking Navy can't figure out how to tell the land based missiles where the carriers are sailing at?

Even if the Chinese develop a combined arms philosophy and develop an actual structure for their various retarded commands to coordinate with one another, the United States can still sit back well outside the range of whatever missiles the Chinese have and whittle down their anti-ship and anti-air batteries until they're either all destroyed or they're just out of ammunition. There's only one nation on the planet with the autism to sink billions of dollars in storing enough smart munitions to win back-to-back world wars and it isn't the fucking Chinese.

 

[Ero]

The solution is to just deport all the Russians and Ukrainians from Crimea, since y'all can't behave , and give it back the Crimean Tatars.

 

[Kramer on the phone]

Remember how one of Biden's campign's promises was being tough on Russia and now he just said "Yeah you're free to invade Ukraine, we're not gonna do shit to impeed you directly." God you just know that China is watching and thinking invading Taiwan without US military intervention is now a most likely scenario.

Say what you will about Biden he remembers what Barack probably said, the US is spent on war support. it blew its load back during the bush years, Biden knows the US wouldn't be able to handle a war now. it just pissed away a billion dollars because some dumb bitch forgot to put her landing gear on.

Taiwan wouldn't be able to handle itself either. between them korea and japan all 3 would probably not have enough troops to survive a zerg rush of chinese, i have a hard time believing westernized boys have the gumption to protect their shithole countries too. even the redditors of these countries admit they'd turn and run even if forced otherwise. "its a fuckload easier to ask someone else to die for their country"

If i was Chinese though i'd take out the TSMC factories first before we went in, TSMC is like Taiwan's virginity, once it loses that its considered worthless. no way in hell papa NATO will come to its aid once the Taiwan pussy has been blown out.

 

[Krokodil Overdose]

Say what you will about Biden he remembers what Barack probably said, the US is spent on war support. it blew its load back during the bush years, Biden knows the US wouldn't be able to handle a war now. it just pissed away a billion dollars because some dumb bitch forgot to put her landing gear on.

>Biden
>remembers
Lol guess again. Mother fucker can't remember what planet he's on these days, never mind the strategic implications of NATO. The consequences of the world's only superpower and effective guarantor of the global order being led by a geriatric retard are hard to overstate- if you don't believe me, remember that Russia only rolled out it's craziest demand (NATO withdraw to it's 1990 borders) after Biden's 2-hour senior moment on live TV.