Trump Enslavement Syndrome - Orange man good. /r/The_Donald and any public demonstration of rabid pro-Trump enthusiasm in spite of all reason.

[LeChampion1992]

I don't think republicans have a monopoly on anti-Semitism, god no. Plenty of people on the far-left especially confuse anti-zionism with out and out apologia for the kind of Islamist lunatic who bombs a bus full of kids. Like I'm using the word "fascist" a lot in this thread but I really am not saying that to be provocative or alarmist or even insulting. I'm talking like actual dictionary definition shit. Maybe not so much when I'm writing because who the fuck wants to read something boring, but when I'm THINKING about this stuff I try to pretend to be a martian. Dispassionate. If I'm comparing republicans to Nazis it's because they just so happen getting more and more similar to them. We all got our biases but I try to be cognizant of that.

Anyway, I think the US has been in for a sort of cultural/political reckoning for a long time. We've always had deep divisions as a society for more reasons then anybody can list. But between neoliberalism's aftermath, exploding inequality, and traditional protestant cultural norms starting to fall apart we're all just kind of at each other's throats and pissed off. And when an entire country is pissed off shit gets weird and dangerous very, very, quickly.

I mean I can tell you it's dangerous because we've destroyed the societal glues and tried to replace it with queer identity and cultural relativism. That's not a way to make society succeed.

 

[What the shit]

What are the Trumpers saying about Donald Trump clogging toilets with classified documents?

 

[b0x]

You lot enjoy projecting really hard about the kinds of media you consume. Seditious conspiracy is a pretty big charge, you know. The USC defines it as:

sorry I was going for the dictionary definition.

coup d’état, also called coup, the sudden, violent overthrow of an existing government by a small group.

According the USC, that means this guy successfully performed a coup!

 

[James Edwin]

lol only retard would think storming the capitol was a part of the plan

you faggots stormed the capitol because you wanted some kind of spazzoid revolution, well you got it, the optics didnt work out did it

this is why i will always shit on tankies that are all about 'revolution, not voting', its not going to work you fuck, you are not getting your precious revolution

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

sorry I was going for the dictionary definition.



According the USC, that means this guy successfully performed a coup!

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What do you think they were trying to do by storming the place where the certification vote was happening? You still haven't answered that, because you know I am right about the elderly, obese conman you have a love for

 

[b0x]

What do you think they were trying to do by storming the place where the certification vote was happening? You still haven't answered that, because you know I am right about the elderly, obese conman you have a love for

The people who stormed the Capitol were idiots and deserve being punished by the law. It doesn't mean you get to hold 50 of them without charge for a year though.

I just find it hard to believe these guys were going to overpower the armed police and bodyguards and stop the count. Shouldn't that Policeman be killing them all right now anyway? They are insurrectionists. Pretty odd.

 

[JaneThough]

His bump stock ban was stupid, his pardons were stupid. He got it completely wrong in the Central park 5 case.

Yep. He's a grade A retard.

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

The people who stormed the Capitol were idiots and deserve being punished by the law. It doesn't mean you get to hold 50 of them without charge for a year though.

I just find it hard to believe these guys were going to overpower the armed police and bodyguards and stop the count. Shouldn't that Policeman be killing them all right now anyway? They are insurrectionists. Pretty odd.
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You underestimate how hard it would be for capitol police to stop a group of 50 armed people, and was way more than 50 people trying to do it.

An attempted coup should be the most heinous act one can commit, but you Republicans are fine with it because it was to benefit the elderly, obese conman you want to have sex with

 

[b0x]

An attempted coup should be the most heinous act one can commit, but you Republicans are fine with it because it was to benefit the elderly, obese conman you want to have sex with

Uh no I'm fine with them being charged and going to jail. As I said, I just think it's wrong to hold someone for a year without charges.

And what's up with you with Trump and sex anyway?

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

Uh no I'm fine with them being charged and going to jail. As I said, I just think it's wrong to hold someone for a year without charges.

Uh huh. You are defending them pretty hard here, champ.

And what's up with you with Trump and sex anyway?

You tell me, you Republicans seem to want to have sex with him with how enamored you are with him

 

[Rich Evans Ayypologist]

According the USC, that means this guy successfully performed a coup!

I literally gave you the definition for sedition. Let me do it again, with a bold emphasis for our very special boy:

If two or more persons in any State or Territory, or in any place subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, conspire to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the Government of the United States, or to levy war against them, or to oppose by force the authority thereof, or by force to prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of any law of the United States, or by force to seize, take, or possess any property of the United States contrary to the authority thereof, they shall each be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both.

Listen, I know what you're doing. You didn't know the Oath Keepers got hit with sedition.
You're trying to play semantics to save face, because you (for some reason) really, really care what people think about you in this thread.

With that cleared up, I'll spoonfeed you the parts of the legal document you didn't look at that are relevant (p. 9):

The conspirators carried out the conspiracy through the following manner and
Imeans, among others:
II.
a. Preparing for and coordinating travel to Washington, D.C., to use force to stop the
lawful transfer of presidential power;
b. Organizing into teams that were prepared and willing to use force and to transport
firearms and ammunition into Washington, D.C.;
c. Recruiting members and affiliates to participate in the conspiracy;
d. Organizing trainings to teach and learn paramilitary combat tactics;
e. Bringing and contributing firearms, ammunition, and related equipment to the QRF
staging areas outside Washington, D.C.;
f. Bringing and contributing paramilitary gear, weapons, and supplies-including
knives, batons, camouflaged combat uniforms, tactical vests with plates, helmets,
eye protection, and radio equipment-to the Capitol grounds;
g. Breaching and attempting to take control of the Capitol grounds and building on
January 6, 2021, in an effort to prevent, hinder, and delay the Certification of the
Electoral College vote;
h. Using force against law enforcement officers while inside the Capitol on January
6, 2021;
1. Continuing to plot, after January 6, 2021, to oppose by force the lawful transfer of
presidential power; and
J. Using websites, social media, text messagmg, and encrypted messagmg
applications to communicate with co-conspirators and others

According the USC, that means this guy successfully performed a coup!

I didn't realize that a coup had to succeed in order to be tried as if the perpetrators were attempting one. Your suggestion is that so long as they failed, they didn't do anything.

It isn't just that they brought firearms and gear to the capitol, either, to qualify for that sedition charge. See, they actually talked about performing the violent overthrow of the US government, many times, among each other. And I'm pretty sure that being tried for sedition is what happens to people who attempt a coup, although you have shown off some true intellect in the suggestion that the beer hall putsch never happened because it didn't succeed.

 

[eternal dog mongler]

Uh no I'm fine with them being charged and going to jail. As I said, I just think it's wrong to hold someone for a year without charges.

Would you support it for Islamist terrorists living in the US who have made actionable threats?

 

[John Merston]

If you aren't 70 years old, why do you have the political views of a boomer?

Left-wingers told him he was a creep for enjoying anime and vidya with sexualized underage girls, so he joined the far right.

 

[feedtheoctopus]

Uh no I'm fine with them being charged and going to jail. As I said, I just think it's wrong to hold someone for a year without charges.

And what's up with you with Trump and sex anyway?

You know you're still not answering my question: what would they have done if they ran into AOC in the capital?

I mean I can tell you it's dangerous because we've destroyed the societal glues and tried to replace it with queer identity and cultural relativism. That's not a way to make society succeed.

Speaking as a card carrying faggot, while I understand that our rapidly changing sexual and gender norms are disruptive and frightening to people who were brought up in a culture where the nuclear family was considered the center of all existence, I also have to laugh at the idea that change and disruption is inherently evil. Never mind that gay culture is somehow the replacement. Literally nobody but faggot zoomers on twitter gives a shit about Rupaul.

 

[Steamboat_Bill]

You know you're still not answering my question: what would they have done if they ran into AOC in the capital?

More to the point, what would they have done if they ran into Tim Scott?

I didn't realize that a coup had to succeed in order to be tried as if the perpetrators were attempting one. Your suggestion is that so long as they failed, they didn't do anything.

"Do they give a Nobel Prize for attempted chemistry?"

 

[feedtheoctopus]

More to the point, what would they have done if they ran into Tim Scott?

Well I can tell you what I would have done, which in encourage him to learn embroidery

 

[Wormy]

His bump stock ban was stupid, his pardons were stupid. He got it completely wrong in the Central park 5 case.

Okay, fair cop.

So why be that contrary in a thread where we shit on Trump cultists?

 

[LeChampion1992]

You know you're still not answering my question: what would they have done if they ran into AOC in the capital?

Speaking as a card carrying faggot, while I understand that our rapidly changing sexual and gender norms are disruptive and frightening to people who were brought up in a culture where the nuclear family was considered the center of all existence, I also have to laugh at the idea that change and disruption is inherently evil. Never mind that gay culture is somehow the replacement. Literally nobody but faggot zoomers on twitter gives a shit about Rupaul.

I mean to be honest western civilization is built on the idea of a strong nuclear family. It might be radically darwinistic but I think promoting alternative sexualities in the long term is harmful.
Nuclear family's tend to be more successful and stable on average. When you don't have that you tend to have alot of single mothers and young men often raised by single mothers have higher rates of mental illness, substance abuse issues and poverty. Promotion of long term immorality in society has it's consequences.
It's great you can be yourself but it comes with responsibility.

 

[snailslime]

I mean to be honest western civilization is built on the idea of a strong nuclear family. It might be radically darwinistic but I think promoting alternative sexualities in the long term is harmful.
Nuclear family's tend to be more successful and stable on average. When you don't have that you tend to have alot of single mothers and young men often raised by single mothers have higher rates of mental illness, substance abuse issues and poverty. Promotion of long term immorality in society has it's consequences.
It's great you can be yourself but it comes with responsibility.

where did "western" family values come from?

 

[Techpriest]

The nuclear family isn’t even the traditional western family, the traditional western family ranges from polygamous households to multi generation ones depending on the time scale you’re looking at for traditional.