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The siren song of appealing to a deranged, incredibly tiny, yet loud minority is apparently too strong for politicians to resist, so now we have they/them weirdos in the government. Splendid.

Robin actually went to Afghanistan, Kuwait, etc. and performed for soldiers. He was a good guy that was open with the problems he struggled with.

We can't say the same for people like George Carlin, but I'm pretty confident RW would not have been sucking woke establishment cock if he were alive now.
Robin Williams would be bashing Trump non-stop because, if he was still alive, he was basically doing ANY job he could to pay off his alimony after his wife divorced him. NOT bashing Trump would have meant that Robin wouldn't get work and be in deep shit with the legal system due to his wife fucking him over and then some with the divorce demanding that he keep her up as though he was at the peak of his career and not on the downward slide part of it.
 
Article: https://longisland.news12.com/biden-warns-putin-of-severe-costs-of-ukraine-invasion
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Biden warns Putin of 'severe costs' of Ukraine invasion​

WASHINGTON - President Joe Biden told Russia’s Vladimir Putin that invading Ukraine would cause “widespread human suffering” and that the West was committed to diplomacy to end the crisis but “equally prepared for other scenarios,” the White House said Saturday. It offered no suggestion that the hourlong call diminished the threat of an imminent war in Europe.

Biden also said the United States and its allies would respond “decisively and impose swift and severe costs” if the Kremlin attacked its neighbor, according to the White House.

The two presidents spoke a day after Biden's national security adviser, Jake Sullivan, warned that U.S. intelligence shows a Russian invasion could begin within days and before the Winter Olympics in Beijing end on Feb. 20.

Russia denies it intends to invade but has massed well over 100,000 troops near the Ukrainian border and has sent troops to exercises in neighboring Belarus, encircling Ukraine on three sides. U.S. officials say Russia’s buildup of firepower has reached the point where it could invade on short notice.

“President Biden was clear with President Putin that while the United States remains prepared to engage in diplomacy, in full coordination with our Allies and partners, we are equally prepared for other scenarios,” the White House statement said.

The call was “professional and substantive” but produced “no fundamental change in the dynamic that has been unfolding now for several weeks,” according to a senior administration official who briefed reporters following the call on condition of anonymity.

The official added that it remains unclear whether Putin has made a final decision to move forward with military action.

Yuri Ushakov, Putin’s top foreign policy aide, said that while tensions have been escalating for months, in recent days "the situation has simply been brought to the point of absurdity.”

He said Biden mentioned the possible sanctions that could be imposed on Russia, but “this issue was not the focus during a fairly long conversation with the Russian leader.”

Before talking to Biden, Putin had a telephone call with French President Emmanuel Macron, who met with him in Moscow earlier in the week to try to resolve the biggest security crisis between Russia and the West since the Cold War. A Kremlin summary of the call suggested that little progress was made toward cooling down the tensions.

In a sign that American officials are getting ready for a worst-case scenario, the United States announced plans to evacuate most of its staff from the embassy in the Ukrainian capital, and Britain joined other European nations in urging its citizens to leave Ukraine.

The timing of any possible Russian military action remained a key question.

The U.S. picked up intelligence that Russia is looking at Wednesday as a target date, according to a U.S. official familiar with the findings. The official, who was not authorized to speak publicly and did so only on condition of anonymity, would not say how definitive the intelligence was.

A Kremlin statement about the Putin-Macron call referred to “provocative speculations about an allegedly planned Russian ‘invasion’ of Ukraine.” Russia has consistently denied that it plans military action against its neighbor.

Putin also complained in the call that the United States and NATO have not responded satisfactorily to Russian demands that Ukraine be prohibited from joining the military alliance and that NATO pull back forces from Eastern Europe.

Biden has said the U.S. military will not enter a war in Ukraine, but he has promised severe economic sanctions against Moscow, in concert with international allies.

U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken said he told his Russian counterpart Saturday that “further Russian aggression would be met with a resolute, massive and united trans-Atlantic response.”

Meanwhile, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy tried to project calm as he observed military exercises Saturday near Crimea, the peninsula that Russia seized from Ukraine in 2014.

"We are not afraid, we're without panic, all is under control,” he said.

Ukrainian armed forces chief commander Lt. Gen. Valeriy Zaluzhny and Defense Minister Oleksiy Reznikov issued a more defiant joint statement.

“We are ready to meet the enemy, and not with flowers, but with Stingers, Javelins and NLAWs” - anti-tank and -aircraft weapons, they said. “Welcome to hell!”

U.S. Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin and his Russian counterpart, Sergei Shoigu, also held telephone discussions on Saturday.

Further U.S.-Russia tensions arose on Saturday when the Defense Ministry summoned the U.S. embassy’s military attache after it said the navy detected an American submarine in Russian waters near the Kuril Islands in the Pacific. The submarine declined orders to leave, but departed after the navy used unspecified “appropriate means,” the ministry said.

Adding to the sense of crisis, the Pentagon ordered an additional 3,000 U.S. troops to Poland to reassure allies.
The U.S. has urged all American citizens in Ukraine to leave the country immediately, and Sullivan said those who remain should not expect the U.S. military to rescue them in the event that air and rail transportation is severed after a Russian invasion.

The Biden administration has been warning for weeks that Russia could invade Ukraine soon, but U.S. officials had previously said the Kremlin would likely wait until after the Winter Games ended so as not to antagonize China.

Sullivan told reporters on Friday that U.S. intelligence shows that Russia could take invade during the Olympics. He said military action could start with missile and air attacks, followed by a ground offensive.

“Russia has all the forces it needs to conduct a major military action,” Sullivan said, adding that “Russia could choose, in very short order, to commence a major military action against Ukraine.” He said the scale of such an invasion could range from a limited incursion to a strike on Kyiv, the capital.

Russia scoffed at the U.S. talk of urgency.

“The hysteria of the White House is more indicative than ever,” said Maria Zakharova, a Russian Foreign Ministry spokeswoman. “The Anglo-Saxons need a war. At any cost. Provocations, misinformation and threats are a favorite method of solving their own problems.”

Zakharova said her country had “optimized” staffing at its own embassy in Kyiv in response to concerns about possible military actions from the Ukrainian side.

In addition to the more than 100,000 ground troops that U.S. officials say Russia has assembled along Ukraine’s eastern and southern borders, the Russians have deployed missile, air, naval and special operations forces, as well as supplies to sustain a war. This week, Russia moved six amphibious assault ships into the Black Sea, augmenting its capability to land marines on the coast.

Biden has bolstered the U.S. military presence in Europe as reassurance to allies on NATO’s eastern flank. The 3,000 additional soldiers ordered to Poland come on top of 1,700 who are on their way there. The U.S. Army also is shifting 1,000 soldiers from Germany to Romania, which like Poland shares a border with Ukraine.

Russia is demanding that the West keep former Soviet countries out of NATO. It also wants NATO to refrain from deploying weapons near its border and to roll back alliance forces from Eastern Europe - demands flatly rejected by the West.

Russia and Ukraine have been locked in a bitter conflict since 2014, when Ukraine’s Kremlin-friendly leader was driven from office by a popular uprising. Moscow responded by annexing the Crimean Peninsula and then backing a separatist insurgency in eastern Ukraine, where fighting has killed over 14,000 people.

A 2015 peace deal brokered by France and Germany helped halt large-scale battles, but regular skirmishes have continued, and efforts to reach a political settlement have stalled.
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Durham: Tech Exec Working with Clinton-Tied Lawyer Spied on Trump Tower, White House​


Special Counsel John Durham reportedly said in a new court filing that a technology executive working with a Clinton-tied lawyer accessed White House servers as well as Internet data for Trump Tower and elsewhere in connection with an effort to dig up dirt on Donald Trump and establish a “narrative” linking him to Russia.

The February 11 motion, obtained by Fox News and the Washington Examiner, pertains to potential conflicts of interest regarding the defense team for Michael Sussmann, the indicted lawyer who had been working for the Hillary Clinton campaign.

In the court filing, Durham wrote that he has evidence Sussmann’s other client, “Technology Executive-1,” exploited Internet traffic data on “(i) a particular healthcare provider, (ii) Trump Tower, (iii) Donald Trump’s Central Park West apartment building, and (iv) the Executive Office of the President of the United States (EOP).”
 

Durham: Tech Exec Working with Clinton-Tied Lawyer Spied on Trump Tower, White House​


Special Counsel John Durham reportedly said in a new court filing that a technology executive working with a Clinton-tied lawyer accessed White House servers as well as Internet data for Trump Tower and elsewhere in connection with an effort to dig up dirt on Donald Trump and establish a “narrative” linking him to Russia.

The February 11 motion, obtained by Fox News and the Washington Examiner, pertains to potential conflicts of interest regarding the defense team for Michael Sussmann, the indicted lawyer who had been working for the Hillary Clinton campaign.

In the court filing, Durham wrote that he has evidence Sussmann’s other client, “Technology Executive-1,” exploited Internet traffic data on “(i) a particular healthcare provider, (ii) Trump Tower, (iii) Donald Trump’s Central Park West apartment building, and (iv) the Executive Office of the President of the United States (EOP).”
I miss HK-47. He had the best insights into this scandal.
 
It's almost like they're doing this war solely to get rid of dirt they have in Ukraine or something.....
A dude in our family is planning a family reunion in Florida later this year. Said dude is also in service. If shit pops off in Ukraine, he says he'll most likely get deployed, meaning he won't be able to be there for the family reunion he helped plan. LET'S GO BRANDON! (:_(
 
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“The hysteria of the White House is more indicative than ever,” said Maria Zakharova, a Russian Foreign Ministry spokeswoman. “The Anglo-Saxons need a war. At any cost. Provocations, misinformation and threats are a favorite method of solving their own problems.”
This right here sums up the current Ukraine situation entirely. The neocon class want a war, they're desperate for a war, and Putin simply isn't obliging. He has no reason to invade: Ukraine isn't joining NATO anytime soon and there's nothing Russia cannot gain from the region it already doesn't have the means to do so. Best evidence of this is the reporting over this weekend of feelers over potentially recognizing the Russian annexation of Crimea as legitimate via further peaceful negotiation. The stage is being set to kick this can down the road another decade given the NATO requirement for any potential member to have no outstanding border disputes before admission. Cannot change a key treaty tenet so simply move the dominate Russia timeline back a bit.

Oh and all the hysteria over Russia moving its embassy staff out of Ukraine too? Maybe Russia wants to avoid its personnel getting tied up in a false flag forcing a nationalist response. Western media has wholly bought the American narrative hook, line, and sinker.
 
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This right here sums up the current Ukraine situation entirely. The neocon class want a war, they're desperate for a war, and Putin simply isn't obliging. He has no reason to invade: Ukraine isn't joining NATO anytime soon and there's nothing Russia cannot gain from the region it already doesn't have the means to do so. Best evidence of this is the reporting over this weekend of feelers over potentially recognizing the Russian annexation of Crimea as legitimate via further peaceful negotiation. The stage is being set to kick this can down the road another decade given the NATO requirement for any potential member to have no outstanding border disputes before admission. Cannot change a key treaty tenet so simply move the dominate Russia timeline back a bit.

Oh and all the hysteria over Russia moving its embassy staff out of Ukraine too? Maybe Russia wants to avoid its personnel getting tied up in a false flag forcing a nationalist response. Western media has wholly bought the American narrative hook, line, and sinker.
Not likely, additional ships including Russia's one active Kirov class cruiser put to see last not from the Northern Fleet and are likely headed toward the Med and the 4th Guards Armored Division of the 1st Tank Army has been reinforced with additional BUK M3 (SA-27 Grizzly) medium air defense assets and surface to surface ballistic missile SS-26 Iskander-M. The Baltic Fleet was reinforced by a Kilo class submarine that cleared the dardanelles earlier today. The Russian State Duma is to consider a motion to recognize the independence of the Donets Peoples Republic and the Luhansk Peoples Republic, after which the will use the pretext of threatened genocide of the people of the people the residents of these newly recognized "nations" as pretext for attacking Ukraine, the leader of the Donets Peoples Republic has already said as much publicly.

Edit, Forgot to add that SU-34 Fullback fighter bomber squadrons have been have been moved to an airfield on the southern side of the sea of Azov directly opposite Mariupol.
 
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My understanding is the Durham report is a pretty big deal because it directly confirms Hill dog paid people to spy on trump before and after he became president. Not only spy, but also create a false Russia narrative by hacking his email servers.

She did this with the help of the current national security adviser, Jake Sulivan and a bunch of fuckers in the Ukraine. This might be the hidden goose reason for stoking tensions in the region.

It's basically watergate times 10. Even if she gets out free as a bird she's not going to be able to openly run for president in 2024. I cant seem to post pictures at the moment, but Poso has a lot more details.
 
The Russian State Duma is to consider a motion to recognize the independence of the Donets Peoples Republic and the Luhansk Peoples Republic, after which the will use the pretext of threatened genocide of the people of the people the residents of these newly recognized "nations" as pretext for attacking Ukraine, the leader of the Donets Peoples Republic has already said as much publicly.
The key missing here though is that the Ukrainian government doesn't currently occupy both regions - they've been under rebel control for years at this stage. A Russian declaration does nothing to push invasion since Ukraine hasn't tried crushing the rebels for a while now, it's basically a warning that Russia will should any attempt be made, similar to the situation with Abkhazia and South Ossetia.

Such a thing will not happen since the whole point of this charade is to have Russia attack - Ukraine doing the enforcement eliminates a key casus bellum for NATO and the US. If Ukraine was going to enforce its sovereignty it would've already done so and not keep making official remarks about how Russia isn't going to invade anytime soon or requesting the intelligence the CIA is using to push this narrative.
 
My understanding is the Durham report is a pretty big deal because it directly confirms Hill dog paid people to spy on trump before and after he became president. Not only spy, but also create a false Russia narrative by hacking his email servers.

She did this with the help of the current national security adviser, Jake Sulivan and a bunch of fuckers in the Ukraine. This might be the hidden goose reason for stoking tensions in the region.

It's basically watergate times 10. Even if she gets out free as a bird she's not going to be able to openly run for president in 2024. I cant seem to post pictures at the moment, but Poso has a lot more details.
Doesn't matter because she won't be prosecuted simply because if she was, then the Left will definitely prosecute Trump, et. al.
 
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