Russian Invasion of Ukraine (2022): Thread 1 - Ukrainian Liars vs Russian Liars with Air and Artillery Superiority

[Only A Retard Sometimes]

Look up "Operation Gladio" if you are not familiar with that part of NATO history.

what about it? stay behind operations are standard in such situations.

 

[Badungus Kabungus]

looks false

https://twitter.com/ELINTNews/status/1493051115189030912?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

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Interesting. Original tweet by BBC blue checkmark is still up too. Wouldn't be surprised if bongs are fucking around with gayops.

 

[Anne I. O'Nick]

And all this is a win-win for Russia. Either they get NATO concessions and Ukraine is a neutral buffer state between Russia and NATO, or they invade the Donbass and they have a vassal buffer state between Russia and NATO.

 

[Badungus Kabungus]

what about it? stay behind operations are standard in such situations.

You mean when NATO got a bunch of former Nazis to create terrorist cells and recruit neo-Nazis all over Europe using CIA funds? Worked out great, lol.

 

[hooboy]

And all this is a win-win for Russia. Either they get NATO concessions and Ukraine is a neutral buffer state between Russia and NATO, or they invade the Donbass and they have a vassal buffer state between Russia and NATO.

I can't tell if this is sarcasm

 

[whatever I feel like]

Well how about them apples.

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https://twitter.com/StephenNolan/status/1492971943582224395

https://archive.ph/n06VF

If that gets the Ukraine out of this that would leave them the biggest winners out of this. Retract a proposal that was going nowhere (NATO was not about to admit a new member state with part of its sovereign territory under foreign occupation and even if Europeans had the balls for it Hungary would have vetoed it.) but only after having gotten loads of weapons from friendly states+a reduction on restrictions of the type of weapons allowed to be exported to them. AND they would have brought the time to engage in increased hardening and "offensive defense" capabilities. AND since there's no binding agreement they could just reapply to NATO if they ever got those other things done.

But thats not going to be enough, war's still coming in spite of that proposal, because of all the things I just stated.

 

[Richardface]

It would be amusing if Russia uses these amassed forces to invade the Baltics rather than Ukraine and reveal NATO to be a hollow shell

 

[Techpriest]

It would be amusing if Russia uses these amassed forces to invade the Baltics rather than Ukraine and reveal NATO to be a hollow shell

They invade the Baltics there won't be a russian military in three months.

 

[дядя Боря]

They invade the Baltics there won't be a russian military in three months.

Forgot the source, but either when Ivans were invading Baltics or Finns, there were stories about occupation and dumb Ivan conscripts eating out of chamber pots (they looked far more fancy than their typical "dinner ware")

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Ukrainian bigwigs apparently fleeing the capitol. The Government itself apparently places to relocate to lviv if the ruskies start to move. the only remaining US diplomats in Ukraine will be there as well.

https://twitter.com/theragex/status/1492948031020441603

this is the original source article, from which, that paragraph is verbatim quoted by a whole lot of other sources:

https://www.pravda.com.ua/news/2022/02/13/7323857/

The article is kind of clickbatish. It does start that charter flight reservations were highest in 6 years. It also ends stating that two businessmen who took off, one is actually going on biz trip (planned 3 mo ago) with family staying, another one saying that it's just his jet is going for routine maintenance abroad.

Who knows, if I had a plane I'd probably take off to somewhere warmer for booze and hookers.

 

[Richardface]

They invade the Baltics there won't be a russian military in three months.

I'm sure the Germans would be happy that their gas is cut off and the Americans would be happy with all their cities being glowing craters

 

[Psychotron]

I'm actually surprised at the level of tensions, I was expecting a piecemeal annex of some land on the east, but this looks like they're going for the whole Ukie enchilada.

Absolutely think in this sitatuin in the name of peace we should just stop the whole NATO talks.

It's so easy to do a false flag these days with the easily compressible means of comms that social media is, but anything the West can do to be certain they are in fact the aggressor is for the best.

 

[Only A Retard Sometimes]

I'm sure the Germans would be happy that their gas is cut off and the Americans would be happy with all their cities being glowing craters

Its doubtful any US cities or Russia cities would be directly targeted in a nuclear exchange. The Russians have 1,600 deployable nukes (the rest of their weapons are dismantled or not mounted on rockets etc). the first thing you target are US missile silos, which are in the middle of nowhere. then you target naval airbases and finally naval bases. but remember each individual target needs more than 1 nuke to ensure a kill . Just ensuring each silo gets hit only 2 times takes 900 of their weapons off the table.

Plus, they have to nuke the UK, France, Germany, Turkey, and the other NATO countries too.

i doubt more than 500,000 would die from nuclear blasts directly in the US. The Arms reduction treaties have made nuclear war largely survivable.

 

[Tiggletown]

Its doubtful any US cities or Russia cities would be directly targeted in a nuclear exchange. The Russians have 1,600 deployable nukes (the rest of their weapons are dismantled or not mounted on rockets etc). the first thing you target are US missile silos, which are in the middle of nowhere. then you target naval airbases and finally naval bases. but remember each individual target needs more than 1 nuke to ensure a kill . Just ensuring each silo gets hit only 2 times takes 900 of their weapons off the table.

Plus, they have to nuke the UK, France, Germany, Turkey, and the other NATO countries too.

i doubt more than 500,000 would die from nuclear blasts directly in the US. The Arms reduction treaties have made nuclear war largely survivable.

Combined with the U.S's scifi anti nuke safeguards that we totally don't have floating up in space right now.

 

[IKOL]

this is journalism in cy + 7
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i hope russia nukes this fucking shithole

>tik tok
>washington post

Peak journalism here, comrades, it's over, they know! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARHGH!

The Government itself apparently places to relocate to lviv if the ruskies start to move.

Oh, really? They better. Like, right now. Not because of Russians about to drop by for Horylka, but because Poles would like to warmly hug their dear neighbors in suffocating manner. I'm okay with that.

 

[Stoneheart]

what about it? stay behind operations are standard in such situations.

Yeah but normaly they stay inactive till an occupation or a coup happens.
Gladio went for full Terrorism very fast and without any change in leadership...

 

[Richardface]

>tik tok
>washington post

Peak journalism here, comrades, it's over, they know! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARHGH!




Oh, really? They better. Like, right now. Not because of Russians about to drop by for Horylka, but because Poles would like to warmly hug their dear neighbors in suffocating manner. I'm okay with that.

Actually getting to divide up the Ukrainians with the Russkis might finally get the Poles over the rozbiory

 

[Considered HARMful]

What is notable is of course that the Ukraine-NATO issue is entirely of Russia/Putin's own making. Ukraine, broadly, was not interested in joining NATO until after the annexation of Crimea in March '14, at which point the idea of an international mutual self defense organisation became appealing:
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I gather at least some (most?) of those post-2014 polls are not taking into account the populations of Donetsk, Luhansk and Crimea

They invade the Baltics there won't be a russian military in three months.

How so?

 

[Cincinnatus]

Honestly I've given up on Russia invading Ukraine. I think we will be stuck in the simulation forever.

 

[Tour of Italy]

Its doubtful any US cities or Russia cities would be directly targeted in a nuclear exchange. The Russians have 1,600 deployable nukes (the rest of their weapons are dismantled or not mounted on rockets etc). the first thing you target are US missile silos, which are in the middle of nowhere. then you target naval airbases and finally naval bases. but remember each individual target needs more than 1 nuke to ensure a kill . Just ensuring each silo gets hit only 2 times takes 900 of their weapons off the table.

Plus, they have to nuke the UK, France, Germany, Turkey, and the other NATO countries too.

i doubt more than 500,000 would die from nuclear blasts directly in the US. The Arms reduction treaties have made nuclear war largely survivable.

Norfolk Naval Base, the heart of America’s Atlantic navy and the prime strategic target to crippling our ability to deploy and repair our aircraft carriers and submarines, is in a major metropolitan area with nearly 2 million people.

That’s just one example.

This is a fucking dumb take.

 

[mr.moon1488]

What is notable is of course that the Ukraine-NATO issue is entirely of Russia/Putin's own making. Ukraine, broadly, was not interested in joining NATO until after the annexation of Crimea in March '14, at which point the idea of an international mutual self defense organisation became appealing:
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It wasn't interested in joining NATO, but that whole thing got started because it was interested in joining the EU, which was really a bigger redline for Russia than what NATO is. Ukraine joining NATO would be a potential threat for Russia in the form of possible future military actions. Ukraine joining the EU would be an absolute threat for Russia in the form of the inevitable subversion that would leak into Russia.