Preston Poulter et al v. Ali "Dean" Assaf et al (2021)

[Strix454]

So, they were offered a Rule 12(b) motion, for FREE, written by your ACTUAL ATTORNEY, and they STILL went with Spectre?

Dean went with Spectre. Vikki seems to have put everything on the process server dodging strategy which I would think not even Spectre would have advised.

 

[SargonF00t]

I don't recall.

When the lolsuit was first announced, I advised them both to get counsel. But they hesitated because the judge kicked Preston's suit back to him, and there was a good chance the case wouldn't proceed on it's merits. Vikki said she wouldn't bother getting a lawyer until she knew she needed to. Even when it was clear that she definitely needed to, she didn't bother, because she claims she was never served. (She still needs to. Now more than ever.)

I actually asked my lawyer if he'd represent these two broke-asses, but he said it was a conflict of interest, since Dean's case was far more complicated than mine, and he'd need to prioritize his first client, me, should problems arise. However, we invited Dean and Vikki to join in our Motion to Dismiss at no cost to them, which they both didn't seem interested in doing.

At that point, we really just stopped communicating about the lolsuit. Vikki sent me some stuff about the ComicsGate TM, though.

It seems like the stress of the legal process has caused them to lash out at you, with their strange new found obsession with you.

That is a shame as I like both of them, but they are not handling things well at the moment.

 

[Captain Manning]

Dean went with Spectre. Vikki seems to have put everything on the process server dodging strategy which I would think not even Spectre would have advised.

Sir, you may or may not be aware that you're talking about a man who claimed for the past ten or so years that he is a Captain in the Marine Corps. That he saved lives at the Boston Marathon bombing. That he guarded the U.S. Embassy in Israel and met Vilerat there. That he uncovered info on JMK so heinous that the FBI came to his hovel and made him take it down (conveniently after he was questioned by the site concerning its credibility). That he shot a meth-head in order to save the live of a cop.

I could go on... Fortunately, I don't have to, because there is entire thread filled to the brim with this ridiculousness.

He conveyed all these amazing stories under the same username, while endeavoring all along to become an e-celebrity. Because, naturally, when you become e-famous, people dig less into your past and not more (wouldn't you agree, @FROG?), and none of that crap would have been eventually exposed as utter crap.

In sum, he is absolutely that stupid. @Spectre_06 is dumber than @Shane_Yes_That_One.

THAT SAID, you're right. He probably didn't advise that. If only because it would garner him attention in the same way writing Dean's legal briefs would. He would have loved to try and write fuck up any response Vikki would have given too.

 

[I'm not a Robot]

However, we invited Dean and Vikki to join in our Motion to Dismiss at no cost to them, which they both didn't seem interested in doing.

I want to highlight this because it adds an astounding layer of incompetence to what Dean did. On July 26th, Ethan threw Dean a lifeline by offering him the opportunity to join in his motion to dismiss. Dean reportedly isn't interested. He was served the day before Ethan, so their deadlines are nearly identical.



Ethan filed his motion to dismiss the following week on August 4th. That same day, Dean's answer is filed, which inadvertently waived jurisdiction. There would not be a lawsuit against him today had he accepted the help, or stopped to think, "Why am I (and/or Spectre) working on an answer while Ethan's lawyer is prepping a motion to dismiss?" He probably could've gotten some free legal advice by asking Ethan to ask his lawyer what he should be doing. He had several opportunities to get out of this lawsuit and he choose poorly each and every time.

 

[Captain Manning]

I was watching @TheCosmicWarrior 's stream the other night while the Farms was down. Just to see if @FROG was gonna talk about what he posted here yesterday.

The answer is "not really," but he pretty clearly isn't having any of this shit and, given the recent revelation he just shared, I can't really blame him for being angry.

I'm too busy to clip right now, but the fireworks start near the end at the about the 2:06:48 mark (I have it queued up).

There would not be a lawsuit against him today had he accepted the help, or stopped to think, "Why am I (and/or Spectre) working on an answer while Ethan's lawyer is prepping a motion to dismiss?" He probably could've gotten some free legal advice by asking Ethan to ask his lawyer what he should be doing.

The only thing I can think of is maybe he (or they, since he offered help to both) didn't want to be indebted to the "Pie Man."

Which is dumb. Nobody likes Preston. He's the very definition of a pariah and common enemy of decent folk. No sane person would begrudge an alliance under such circumstances. If they do, they're dumb. Cliques become beyond gay when they begin they dictate actions to such a degree that they become self-destructive.

Alternatively, Spectre conned them. That's me trying REALLY hard to give them absolutely every benefit of the doubt. Which is a avenue that is rapidly being walled off.

He had several opportunities to get out of this lawsuit and he choose poorly each and every time.

Watching Dean throughout all this is like watching a Palestinian child throw rocks at Israeli AFVs. Yeah, the kid's got balls, but he's also ineffectual and retarded.

I think I just ran out of "niceness" concerning this whole thing. Get some help, Dean. Or, fuck off with this shit. Because right now you come off as a crybaby retard megafaggot. Calling Ethan a scumbag multiple times on your show rings hollow when he graciously offered to help you out of your very serious predicament. What the hell were you even thinking? What does Ribbitcoin have to do with any of this? When you reach that far back, it becomes obvious to people that you're REALLY reaching in order to fling dirt at FROG.

 

[Strix454]

I think I just ran out of "niceness" concerning this whole thing. Get some help, Dean. Or, fuck off with this shit. Because right now you come off as a crybaby retard megafaggot. Calling Ethan a scumbag multiple times on your show rings hollow when he graciously offered to help you out of your very serious predicament. What the hell were you even thinking? What does Ribbitcoin have to do with any of this? When you reach that far back, it becomes obvious to people that you're REALLY reaching in order to fling dirt at FROG.

It seems like something happened backstage recently between them all. There has to be some reason why they have gone from toleration of each other back to open hostility. It might be as simple as them being angry
that EVS was successful in getting out of the case. But something seems to have changed. Nothing public that I know of accounts for it.

FROG appearing on streams with Testefy and JDA would make them angry though. They really seemed to put more energy into their feud with JDA/Testefy than they did in defending
themselves legally. Their current hostility to FROG could be explained by leftover JDA/Triangle rage.

I could see Dean being influenced in a bad way by Spectre earlier. It was certainly in Spectre's interests that Dean turn down FROG's offer. I mean if Dean did that, Spectre wouldn't get to show off on the internet.
And that is what it seems like Spectre's biggest priority was. Spectre was certainly capable of conning someone like Dean into thinking he was a legal genius. And all the lunacy around spectre that came out on
the farms during the course of the case doesn't seem to have made Dean think twice about anything he was doing.

 

[FROG]

It seems like something happened backstage recently between them all. There has to be some reason why they have gone from toleration of each other back to open hostility. It might be as simple as them being angry
that EVS was successful in getting out of the case. But something seems to have changed. Nothing public that I know of accounts for it.

FROG appearing on streams with Testefy and JDA would make them angry though. They really seemed to put energy into their feud with JDA/Testefy than they did in defending
themselves legally. Their current hostility to FROG could be explained by leftover JDA/Triangle rage.

I could see Dean being influenced in a bad way by Spectre earlier. It was certainly in Spectre's interests that Dean turn down FROG's offer. I mean if Dean did that, Spectre wouldn't get to show off on the internet.
And that is what it seems like Spectre's biggest priority was. Spectre was certainly capable of conning someone like Dean into thinking he was a legal genius. And all the lunacy around spectre that came out on
the farms during the course of the case doesn't seem to have made Dean think twice about anything he was doing.

It's 100% anger at JDA and Testefy HD.

 

[5t3n0g0ph3r]

It's 100% anger at JDA and Testefy HD.

To Dean, @VIkkiVerse: There's no sense in getting angry over a dead man.
You should be more concerned about @PocketJacks & Lamont.

 

[Captain Manning]

And all the lunacy around spectre that came out on the farms during the course of the case doesn't seem to have made Dean think twice about anything he was doing.

Oh, Dean had a "response" to the Spectre thread, but @5t3n0g0ph3r has made it clear he doesn't want it detailed in this lawsuit=specific thread, and I am gonna respect his wishes/directiive. You can catch glimpses of it in the Spectre thread if you're curious. The mods in the Gunt sub-forum seem perfectly amenable to discussing it there. They weren't happy with the mess.

Given what happened, I should be more angry at Dean than I am, but the thing is that supporting a Preston/Lamont win seems like supporting the anti-Christ and wanting to watch the world burn. It's shortsighted and immature. I don't want to go that far. I don't even agree with everything @FROG said on JDA's stream. Especially about being happy about them losing (though I comprehend and empathize with the anger given what they've been doing these past few weeks).

More on point though, the Spectre thread went up after Dean's brief was submitted. And that was the very last thing that was submitted. There was no Spectre-written objection to the Magistrate Judge's recommendation. Or any objection. So maybe Dean did learn the value of not relying on stolen valor, lies, and incompetence, but... of course.... by then it was too late.

Once again, it should be emphasized that none of this would have made its way into Spectre's thread (and TWO MATI episodes by Null) if it weren't for Spectre himself.

Then (in this thread):

Now (on D&V's show):

I still don't know what to make of this. I guess some Kiwifarmer named @Spectre_06 ran a gay op against Spectre in this thread by openly claiming to write Dean's motion? Damn anti-Spectre gay ops emanating from Spectre! These anti-Spectre gay ops are truly getting out of hand now! Now Spectre will have to report himself to General Mattis.

BTW @FROG, Spectre claimed he only copied your lawyer's motion for "wording." Make of that whatever you will.

It's 100% anger at JDA and Testefy HD.

That makes no sense.

I'm not saying you're lying or wrong, I'm just saying it makes no sense. Nothing about the way any of this was handled makes any goddamned sense.

 

[FROG]

Given what happened, I should be more angry at Dean than I am, but the thing is that supporting a Preston/Lamont win seems like supporting the anti-Christ and wanting to watch the world burn. It's shortsighted and immature. I don't want to go that far. I don't even agree with everything @FROG said on JDA's stream. Especially about being happy about them losing (though I comprehend and empathize with the anger given what they've been doing these past few weeks).

Obviously that rant was from anger, and even though Vikki and Dean are two societal burdens and coprophages, I can't in good conscience support punishing them by handing Preston Poulter any kind of a victory.

So please excuse me.

That makes no sense.

I'm not saying you're lying or wrong, I'm just saying it makes no sense. Nothing about the way any of this was handled makes any goddamned sense.

When it comes down to it, the help I was offering them still required them to hire lawyers. Even cheap lawyers seem to be out of their budget. So the answer was an unspoken "no thanks" from Dean. Spectre_06 was free of charge, after all.

Vikki is still going to try to avoid the judgment against her by saying she was never served, but she'll need a lawyer to make that happen. So I'm pretty sure she's going to attempt to ignore the default judgment. Maybe she'll surprise us.

Here's the other reason Vikki and Dean are very mad at me right now:

1. Vikki and Dean hate Testefy HD.
2. JDA was streaming with Testefy HD. Vikki and Dean now hate JDA.
3. I was streaming with Vikki and Dean now and then. They liked me.
4. I was also streaming with JDA, while Testefy was guest hosting. This bothered them.
5. Vikki and Dean did a video takedown of JDA for reason #2. It wasn't good.
6. JDA efapped the video takedown, and laughed at it. His efap was fun.
7. I said that JDA's efap was more persuasive than their takedown video. Vikki and Dean seethed.
8. I began to enjoy Testefy HD's toned down sense of humor, and his Liamology enthusiasm. I said so.
9. Preston's case against me was dismissed without prejudice for jurisdiction.
10. I pointed out here on KF that Dean was still fucked, and that Vikki still needs a lawyer.

And now we're here.

Update: @VIkkiVerse denies all of this and says she doesn't actually care either way about me, nor presumably Jon Del Arroz or Testefy HD.

 

[Captain Manning]

Obviously that rant was from anger, and even though Vikki and Dean are two societal burdens and coprophages, I can't in good conscience support punishing them by handing Preston Poulter any kind of a victory.

So please excuse me.

I figured as much. You are right to be angry. I just wanted to make it clear why I can't in good conscience give everything you said a thumbs up.

It sucks that you tried to help and they slapped away the olive branch and are trying (rather incompetently, IMO) to bury you now.

When it comes down to it, the help I was offering them still required them to hire lawyers. Even cheap lawyers seem to be out of their budget. So the answer was an unspoken "no thanks" from Dean. Spectre_06 was free of charge, after all.

Vikki is still going to try to avoid the judgment against her by saying she was never served, but she'll need a lawyer to make that happen. So I'm pretty sure she's going to attempt to ignore the default judgment. Maybe she'll surprise us.

Here's the other reason Vikki and Dean are very mad at me right now:

1. Vikki and Dean hate Testefy HD.
2. JDA was streaming with Testefy HD. Vikki and Dean now hate JDA.
3. I was streaming with Vikki and Dean now and then. They liked me.
4. I was also streaming with JDA, while Testefy was guest hosting. This bothered them.
5. Vikki and Dean did a video takedown of JDA for reason #2. It wasn't good.
6. JDA efapped the video takedown, and laughed at it. His efap was fun.
7. I said that JDA's efap was more persuasive than their takedown video. Vikki and Dean seethed.
8. I began to enjoy Testefy HD's toned down sense of humor, and his Liamology enthusiasm. I said so.
9. Preston's case against me was dismissed without prejudice for jurisdiction.
10. I pointed out here on KF that Dean was still fucked, and that Vikki still needs a lawyer.

And now we're here.

Okay, that explains it better. Thank you.

Also, that's lame. They're being fucking lame.

 

[Manwithn0n0men]

@FROG I know you have better things to do with your life right now Bro......

but please get sanctions on Preston and sell the rights to collect money on him. He deserves all the pestilence in the world

 

[TheCosmicWarrior]

1. Vikki and Dean hate Testefy HD.
2. JDA was streaming with Testefy HD. Vikki and Dean now hate JDA.
3. I was streaming with Vikki and Dean now and then. They liked me.
4. I was also streaming with JDA, while Testefy was guest hosting. This bothered them.
5. Vikki and Dean did a video takedown of JDA for reason #2. It wasn't good.
6. JDA efapped the video takedown, and laughed at it. His efap was fun.
7. I said that JDA's efap was more persuasive than their takedown video. Vikki and Dean seethed.
8. I began to enjoy Testefy HD's toned down sense of humor, and his Liamology enthusiasm. I said so.
9. Preston's case against me was dismissed without prejudice for jurisdiction.
10. I pointed out here on KF that Dean was still fucked, and that Vikki still needs a lawyer.

And now we're here.

Vikki hates both of us cuz of a dead guy. It's ridiculous. So sad to watch.

 

[Manwithn0n0men]

Vikki hates both of us cuz of a dead guy. It's ridiculous. So sad to watch.

Also I feel said I don't know who most of the people in this E-Drama are

 

[Captain Manning]

Also I feel said I don't know who most of the people in this E-Drama are

They're not really important. That's the point. Retarded Internet beef is now distracting from the far more serious issue of two people idiots losing an IRL lolsuit because of too much focus on the aforementioned completely unrelated Internet beef.

 

[Simply Outplayed-HD]

Aren't Dean and Vicki's whole thing comics artists whose comics come out later than the kickstarter said it would? Pretty hypocritical that the grifting they did for their own lolsuit wasn't spent on an actual lawyer.

Maybe I'm missing something but they just don't seem to make sense, they're madder at EVS than they are at Spectre. EVS would have gotten them out of the lolsuit for free despite him not liking them! I'm pretty sure that free advice from this thread would have been better than the pockmarked stolen valor retards attempt.

 

[Captain Manning]

Aren't Dean and Vicki's whole thing comics artists whose comics come out later than the kickstarter said it would? Pretty hypocritical that the grifting they did for their own lolsuit wasn't spent on an actual lawyer.

Shhhh! We're not supposed to talk about that GFM! We're supposed to be talking about some completely unrelated shit @FROG did back in 2018.

Actually, @FROG just mentioned something on his livestream tonight that expands what he said in this thread.

$1.130 might have been enough to hire Lionel Hutz from the Spingfield Shopping Mall for the SOLE AND LIMITED purpose of signing onto the motion that Ethan's lawyers drafted. That's basically all he or she would have had to do. Review and sign. Lionel Hutz can manage that. Spectre can't, because the UPL would have been caught out if he put his signature to it and had his named entered on the docket sheet.

Queued to the appropriate point:

When it comes to legal representation... believe it or not.... this...

...is still better than this...

 

[Manwithn0n0men]

Not signing the motion to dismiss with Ethan is pretty dumb

Everyone who doesn't like being in cuck porn would win and Preston would lose

 

[RodgerDodger]

Aren't Dean and Vicki's whole thing comics artists whose comics come out later than the kickstarter said it would? Pretty hypocritical that the grifting they did for their own lolsuit wasn't spent on an actual lawyer.

Maybe I'm missing something but they just don't seem to make sense, they're madder at EVS than they are at Spectre. EVS would have gotten them out of the lolsuit for free despite him not liking them! I'm pretty sure that free advice from this thread would have been better than the pockmarked stolen valor retards attempt.

Well no. He wasn't getting them out of the LOL suit for free. And that's what pissed them off. They still each needed to hire a lawyer. But it would have been as minimal cost as those things go. What pissed them off is they wanted Ethan to get them off for free. With no outlay on their part.

 

[Captain Manning]

What pissed them off is they wanted Ethan to get them off for free. With no outlay on their part.

Where are you getting that? Did they say that? Do tell.

Whatever they're pissed off about, I think we can all agree at this point it's dumb, and they need to pull their heads out of their asses.