Best fucked up books

[Jason Wynn]

Okay everyone can start laughing as I call Stephen King's IT. But there's a part in the book that's grossing me out and that's when Henry I believe puts a cat in a fridge and keeps it locked up. don't remember if the cat/dog whatever could escape but I can't handle animal abuse.

Patrick Hockstetter. I remember reading this when I was around 13 or so and getting to his chapter where it goes into how fucked up he was. Yeah, it was pretty disturbing, especially the part with his baby brother.

 

[LoveLonghairedCats]

Patrick Hockstetter. I remember reading this when I was around 13 or so and getting to his chapter where it goes into how fucked up he was. Yeah, it was pretty disturbing, especially the part with his baby brother.

I was much older,just 10 years ago or so (In my 20's) but still got upset from it. I don't even dare to read it again and don't have a need for it. Sorry. God I remember that part with his baby brother too and also a part when the kids where all outside,having beans and farting and put the farts on fire. Henry,Patrick don't know how the others are called but the 'losers club' saw it all and laughed.

Stephen King is fucked up in his books.

 

[admiral]

Wow! This is a blast from the past. I don't think I've ever come across any discussion of this before. I read it in an old anthology forever ago and it must have been good because I still remember it very well today. His comments on women vs. men, his grip on the armrest, the conversation at the party about leopards and the circumstances that set up the book at the beginning. And the ending as well.

Jordan Peterson as Weyland? That's alternately fantastic and horrifying. I still have the story. I think I might read it again, tonight.

I've never encountered someone else who's read it, although I do try and recommend it when I can. I'm a big fan of vampire novels, but I've got very specific tastes and I'm not a fan of romance, so it can be hard to find something that I actually enjoy. One of the major things I got from the novel was a new appreciation for Tosca, lmao.

Being a vampire novel enthusiast, I've seen my fair share of fucked up vampire books, good and bad. One of the most fucked up books i've read was Sins of the Blood, which is another vampire novel. It's about a brother and sister duo, in which the brother becomes a vampire and the sister is a vampire hunter. It's gross and there's a nasty as hell incest subplot towards the end, but it's got Vampire the Masquerade/Vampire Chronicles vibes (it's from the gothic era of vampire stories), and it's not badly written. Most vampire novels you get which are proper fucked are just thinly disguised porn, but Sins of the Blood has a certain veneer of legitimacy and credibility which elevates it somewhat from the rest and in a sense makes its fucked-upness worse, because it's not just some self-published wank fodder on kindle unlimited.

 

[eternal dog mongler]

Stephen King is fucked up in his books.

"masturbating retard killed by bees" and "child gangbang out of nowhere" got my vote as the weirdest things in It.

Stephen King was the GOAT when he was drinking simply because you never knew what the fuck was going to happen.

 

[LoveLonghairedCats]

"masturbating retard killed by bees" and "child gangbang out of nowhere" got my vote as the weirdest things in It.

Stephen King was the GOAT when he was drinking simply because you never knew what the fuck was going to happen.

Wait..you mean he was drunk when writing that? Am I that fucking stupid to not realise? Also Apt pupil is a sick book. Hehe,most when the kiddo had his first wet dream about raping a jewish female in a camp. Jesus. And I was reading that as a teenager mehehe.

 

[Flaming Carrot]

Wait..you mean he was drunk when writing that? Am I that fucking stupid to not realise? Also Apt pupil is a sick book. Hehe,most when the kiddo had his first wet dream about raping a jewish female in a camp. Jesus. And I was reading that as a teenager mehehe.

Both drunk and on drugs actually. So fucked up he doesn't remember writing Cujo. His wife and kids staged an intervention and almost left him because he was so out of control. I believe Needful Things is the first book he wrote after getting off drugs.

 

[cybertoaster]

I can second Starfish. I read it years ago. Helps that the author is himself a marine biologist and he sells the science behind the book very well. The other work I read by him was the novella Blindsight and was in fact the first thing I read by him. I strongly recommend that anyone who wants to read these go in without any context of synopses whatsoever. He's one of the few authors genuinely hard to predict without it being forced. There are some scenes I still remember vividly to this day.

I read this as a kid and it didn't make as strong an impression on me as some of the author's other works (both with and without the M.). I think it was because I didn't really get the horror of what the kid was doing. Maybe I was just keyed to a greater degree of trauma as a child that this didn't register. I also have to wonder, without spoilers, just how well that twist would go down today, all things considered.


Wow! This is a blast from the past. I don't think I've ever come across any discussion of this before. I read it in an old anthology forever ago and it must have been good because I still remember it very well today. His comments on women vs. men, his grip on the armrest, the conversation at the party about leopards and the circumstances that set up the book at the beginning. And the ending as well.

Jordan Peterson as Weyland? That's alternately fantastic and horrifying. I still have the story. I think I might read it again, tonight.

Glad to hear from someone else who likes the author! Blindsight is fucking awesome. It's the kind of book that can really shift the way you think about things, more so than Starfish though it's less "fucked up" . For anyone interested, they're both available to read for free on the author's website. Agreed on them being much better without spoilers, especially for Starfish due to how it develops towards the end.

Blindsight its a mind-blowing novel for sure but the characters except Siri and Jukka are rather forgettable or unbearable. The author's blog its a mix of fedoratipping and boomer-tier politics, tho he does a few good takes here and there.

BTW has anyone seen the fan-made short of Blindsight?

If he ever had a chance to market this to studios this is it, but he seems rather uninterested in doing it.

 

[Johnny Clyde Cash]

I'd like to add to the group of people recommending Starfish. It's really good, and if I explained why more than anyone else in this thread has, I'd be ruining the experience. Just do it.

I was going to mention Guts, but that was literally the second post of this thread. I will say that I'm one of the people who passed out while reading that story. I'm not sure what it is about that story that got to me, because I'd read fucked up stuff like that before, but it happened. I find it really funny that the story is so well-known for causing people to pass out that when Chuck was doing readings of it on tour, they would have EMTs on standby to help people in the audience.

To add something else to the thread, I'll say that the ending of A Farewell to Arms was a complete gut punch and it took a couple days for me to recover.

 

[eternal dog mongler]

Both drunk and on drugs actually. So fucked up he doesn't remember writing Cujo. His wife and kids staged an intervention and almost left him because he was so out of control. I believe Needful Things is the first book he wrote after getting off drugs.

I still find it impressive that King was able to form a coherent plotline in It while blasted out of his mind on cocaine and alcohol. Tons of characters and over 1,000 pages.

 

[Fareal]

Re American Psycho.

A delightful little nugget of nasty in the book is the appearance of one “Alison Poole”, who Bateman casually reflects upon raping the previous summer. “Alison Poole” was in fact the IRL ex girlfriend of Ellis’ good buddy and fellow writer Jay McInerney, Lisa Druck. McInerney had already shat all over Lisa by making this very Alison Poole, a character in his novel Story of My Life, a recognisable portrait of her complete with high profile insurance fraud horse murders. (Yes, this happened.) In solidarity with his bro, Ellis had Alison get raped by a psychopath in his book.

Lisa went off, got married, failed to become an actress, and changed her name legally. So it was a little while before, in the wreckage of John Edwards’ failed presidential bid, when it was revealed that he had knocked up his mistress Rielle Hunter whilst his wife Elizabeth lay dying of cancer, that the media snapped to the fact that Rielle Hunter was actually Lisa Druck, or as we came to not-love her, Alison Poole.

Ellis doubled down by reintroducing her as a more developed character in Glamorama where she was a massive asshole. So, fairly accurate to IRL

 

[LoveLonghairedCats]

Holyy zjiet,I never realise that. I always thought he was a little weird, LMAO. Not remember writing Cujo? Okay I did drugs too but to forget a whole book I've wrote? Nah. TBH I like his drug and alcohol addicted books the most then. Sounds horrible.

Both drunk and on drugs actually. So fucked up he doesn't remember writing Cujo. His wife and kids staged an intervention and almost left him because he was so out of control. I believe Needful Things is the first book he wrote after getting off drugs.

 

[Isaac]

It's probably already been posted, but I really like The Triflers. It's one of my favorites, even if it has glaring flaws (amaturish, far too violent etc.) and it genuinely makes me wish Mumkey wrote novels instead of fucking around with YouTube videos.

 

[Orange Rhymer]

Blindsight its a mind-blowing novel for sure but the characters except Siri and Jukka are rather forgettable or unbearable. The author's blog its a mix of fedoratipping and boomer-tier politics, tho he does a few good takes here and there.

BTW has anyone seen the fan-made short of Blindsight?

If he ever had a chance to market this to studios this is it, but he seems rather uninterested in doing it.

It was...good. Really incredible 'in the moment', 10 min after I finished it... meh.
cryptic subplots. The Vampire character was _unbelievably stupid_. For all the 'I'm a phD, look at the 170 scientific papers I referenced' , he decided on _FUCKING VAMPIRES?!?!
Really?
I spent an hour trying to justify the vampire character. I came up with 'not really a vampire, author meant h. antesessor, ancestor of h. sapien.'
Nope, fucking Canadian meant actual Vampires.
This neckbeard has been to one-too-many Twilight-themed j/o parties
Oh, and remember right angles don't exist in nature. Everything is non-Euclidean.

For all his smarter-than-you sperging, he finds it plausible to create life, one (or several) atoms at a time in a living cyclotron

(but the philosophy was good)

 

[cybertoaster]

It was...good. Really incredible 'in the moment', 10 min after I finished it... meh.
cryptic subplots. The Vampire character was _unbelievably stupid_. For all the 'I'm a phD, look at the 170 scientific papers I referenced' , he decided on _FUCKING VAMPIRES?!?!
Really?
I spent an hour trying to justify the vampire character. I came up with 'not really a vampire, author meant h. antesessor, ancestor of h. sapien.'
Nope, fucking Canadian meant actual Vampires.
This neckbeard has been to one-too-many Twilight-themed j/o parties
Oh, and remember right angles don't exist in nature. Everything is non-Euclidean.

For all his smarter-than-you sperging, he finds it plausible to create life, one (or several) atoms at a time in a living cyclotron

(but the philosophy was good)

Oh I know, I remember when a friend first told me about the book being all hard-scifi only to drop the word vampire and it almost got me out of reading it. He should've gone with anything else really but I guess between right angles give them epilepsy and them being predators of humans coupled with the cross being one of the oldest human symbols kinda makes the whole thing about so many cultures around the world believing in something like vampires fit with the whole idea that it was an actual hominid that hunted us for thousands of years, since h.sapiens its around 300,000 years old but human civilization its 12,000 at the most.

You're wrong on the rest tho, the "vampires" were no ancestors but a kind of subspecies, IIRC the book hints that they are not that far from us which is why they didnt come up in the fossil record because the differences are in all the soft tissues and not the bones. And the right angles well I guess some rock formations might have killed a few with seizures but the idea is that there weren't that many "vampires" to begin with, like Neanderthals, and so when its key prey began living in places full of right angles it basically fucked them all.

Consider how a slight change in the ocean's Ph level destroyed all 15000 species of trilobites.

 

[Overly Serious]

ut the characters except Siri and Jukka are rather forgettable or unbearable

It's the future. Everyone will be unbearable in the future.

 

[Orange Rhymer]

Oh I know, I remember when a friend first told me about the book being all hard-scifi only to drop the word vampire and it almost got me out of reading it. He should've gone with anything else really but I guess between right angles give them epilepsy and them being predators of humans coupled with the cross being one of the oldest human symbols kinda makes the whole thing about so many cultures around the world believing in something like vampires fit with the whole idea that it was an actual hominid that hunted us for thousands of years, since h.sapiens its around 300,000 years old but human civilization its 12,000 at the most.

You're wrong on the rest tho, the "vampires" were no ancestors but a kind of subspecies, IIRC the book hints that they are not that far from us which is why they didnt come up in the fossil record because the differences are in all the soft tissues and not the bones. And the right angles well I guess some rock formations might have killed a few with seizures but the idea is that there weren't that many "vampires" to begin with, like Neanderthals, and so when its key prey began living in places full of right angles it basically fucked them all.

Consider how a slight change in the ocean's Ph level destroyed all 15000 species of trilobites.

I know that the vampires weren't a subspecies - but the book didn't fully explain that at first, just kept using the term after a _very_ brief introduction (which is good writing, btw).
That sent me to reference ancestors that ate h. sapien. Turns out there was one, at least one that was caught with the goods - h. antesssor. In the ice age as well.
Whether they ate the dead, hunted humans, or did it for religon/ritual - no one knows.
The ice age was tough, probably can't waste good meat. Prion diseases take decades to surface, you need to survive until tomorrow.

Nature has tons of right angles. Any tree on the shore or field facing the horizon would send them into convulsions, I guess? Musta been a lot of gangstas hanging out around lonely trees... Plus, after all the sperging about how the 'brain is a liar' and 'vision is a lie', we get this?
(also, right angles are a concept. A concept cannot send you into a seizure. If you are traveling along the photo-epileptic explanation, consider that the eye has _damn_ poor resolution. If a contrasting white marble window frame sends Dracula into convulsions, then so would random tree branches against the blue sky.)
Admit it, the Vampire theme really sucked. Poorly considered, silly, and thematically disharmonious.
He wanted that hot-cruel vampire penis, but didn't want a religious connection. Because, fedora.

"There are no monsters, only people. Somehow, that's even worse."

Spoiler: I Hope You Found the Hidden 1488 Philosophy in the Story

Why are leftist intellectuals always the most racist and fascist?
...and I'm not gonna help you find it, if you want it- find it.

 

[MirrorNoir]

Can you guys help me find the name of a fucked up book I heard about a while back? It's about a crazy ass killer who, as one of those insane quirks designed to make him super demented, spent his free time raising hamsters and making them shoes that he forced them to wear?

 

[Isaac]

Reynard The Fox. It's a Frankish beast fable that's quite violent and explicit. I just thought it was going to be something like
Fantastic Mr. Fox.

Spoiler: Reynard The Fox spoiler

The protagonist rapes a woman, pisses in the eyes of his adversary while fighting and mauls his testicles.

 

[AnOminous]

Reynard The Fox. It's a Frankish beast fable that's quite violent and explicit. I just thought it was going to be something like
Fantastic Mr. Fox.

It's rather in the same vein as Canterbury Tales and other popular fiction of the period in being fairly ribald.

 

[Caesare]

"masturbating retard killed by bees" and "child gangbang out of nowhere" got my vote as the weirdest things in It.

I think those things in the freezer that killed Patrick were supposed to be some kind of flying leeches.

It's rather in the same vein as Canterbury Tales and other popular fiction of the period in being fairly ribald.

We read that in high school and it's when I first learned that people always wrote about filthy things. The miller's tale has a line where he's talking about fucking some woman that goes something like "Yes it was very nice, I turned her over several times last night." lol

I remember my class getting quite the kick out of Canterbury Tales.