Plagued Consoomers / Consoomer Culture - Because if it has a recogniseable brand on it, I’d buy it!

[NoReturn]

Haven’t they done this already? I seem to recall there being entire Disney-sponsored and Disney-themed gated communities in Florida.

That one was the one around Disneyland. They're dropping this abomination as a stand-alone subdivision in the Coachella Valley.

 

[LinkinParkxNaruto[AMV]]

PL: I know someone who is too much into Kpop, well a specific band at the very least. Listens mostly from that band and thinks most bands from Kpop are pretty good but as a result, tends to be a narcissist and has too much pride. I can tell you that the moment you consoom anything from Korea that is mostly Kpop, Kdrama or any part of their culture, they will immediately adopt a holier-than-thou attitude to their culture, especially if they were anime weebs from the past.

I am not very well versed with kpop but i read somewhere that is suposed to be very heavily linked to the SK government as a prtected industry. Maybe it is a psy ops after all.

There's an old conspiracy theory that claims the CIA was behind part of the counter culture in America and mentions how a lot of psichedelic rock musicians came from CIA families, maybe is a version of that and some MK ultra type programing going on with those shitty boybands.

 

[Yaks]

Haven’t they done this already? I seem to recall there being entire Disney-sponsored and Disney-themed gated communities in Florida.

…Epcot?

No, Celebration, FL. It was/is awful.

 

[ten dollars off]

I think part of the problem is that you never know if you'll want to read that book again. Same thing goes with video games or movies. You might read, watch or play it once and think immediately afterwards that you'll never do it again. But then a few years down the road you suddenly want to and since you still have it in your collection you can.

I like the idea of a large collection I can return to, but books especially take up so much space that I have found it better to just rebuy a book down the road as wanted -- usually at a cheaper price due to their depreciation. Same goes for disc-based games and more mainstream movies. I look at my current rate of media consumption, what I am likely to be spending my free time on the next few years, and weigh that against the convenience of having the media item onhand. I try to hold onto stuff I foresee being harder to get in the future, though.

 

[LKjfiert]

I am not very well versed with kpop but i read somewhere that is suposed to be very heavily linked to the SK government as a prtected industry. Maybe it is a psy ops after all.

There's an old conspiracy theory that claims the CIA was behind part of the counter culture in America and mentions how a lot of psichedelic rock musicians came from CIA families, maybe is a version of that and some MK ultra type programing going on with those shitty boybands.

The grand canyon theory is normally incorrect, most of them lived in a normal distance around military bases (they were normally an hour or two away, normally if they give you a house close to them the distance is around 15 minutes) and most of their fathers had shitty normal military jobs because A. they had an history with the US military and after that they stopped going to them AKA most US men on that time B. they just lived with a father which was a military personnel, which is extremely common on the US.

Even then, the byrds and frank zappa where the ones with these families (Zappa with a closer history with them, doesn't make him an US controlled entity tho), frank normally showed an extreme disdain for the way the US army behaved:

“Government is the Entertainment division of the military-industrial complex.”​

and the way it normally hated the way hippies behaved with we're only in for the money, calling them sold and goverment controlled.

A propaganda which tells you to not follow converted trends and saying to you that you shouldn't trust something is a very shitty puppet, even more when it recommends you to work hard.

Aside from this. The reason Kpop is so protected is because it generates a lot of money (this is done with food industries in the US) and because they are used as gigolos (man prostitutes).

The real deal with the MKULTRA was based around other things, music is very much a very limited art form and the feelings it generates normally are very subjective.

Even then, the reasons women like them isn't MKULTRA related, is just teenage hormones and wanting to fuck them, this happens with idols and porn in general, this increases because the material is given on extreme doses on all their media, even more because woman normally hide most of the physical part (they are more emotional, but the body still matters, men are normally like that too, but we have more enticing material to work with), if wanting to fuck is part of a brainwashing scheme, then it is a very underdeveloped system.

 

[LinkinParkxNaruto[AMV]]

I like the idea of a large collection I can return to, but books especially take up so much space that I have found it better to just rebuy a book down the road as wanted -- usually at a cheaper price due to their depreciation. Same goes for disc-based games and more mainstream movies. I look at my current rate of media consumption, what I am likely to be spending my free time on the next few years, and weigh that against the convenience of having the media item onhand. I try to hold onto stuff I foresee being harder to get in the future, though.

i don't own many physical books but most of the ones i do own i bought second hand for very cheap and in pretty decent condition. I think most cities have their spots for trading and reselling used books, those are always a good option if all you care is reading rather than just collecting rare editions.

The grand canyon theory is normally incorrect, most of them lived in a normal distance around military bases (they were normally an hour or two away, normally if they give you a house close to them the distance is around 15 minutes) and most of their fathers had shitty normal military jobs because A. they had an history with the US military and after that they stopped going to them AKA most US men on that time B. they just lived with a father which was a military personnel, which is extremely common on the US.

Even then, the byrds and frank zappa where the ones with these families (Zappa with a closer history with them, doesn't make him an US controlled entity tho), frank normally showed an extreme disdain for the way the US army behaved:

“Government is the Entertainment division of the military-industrial complex.”​

and the way it normally hated the way hippies behaved with we're only in for the money, calling them sold and goverment controlled.

A propaganda which tells you to not follow converted trends and saying to you that you shouldn't trust something is a very shitty puppet, even more when it recommends you to work hard.

Aside from this. The reason Kpop is so protected is because it generates a lot of money (this is done with food industries in the US) and because they are used as gigolos (man prostitutes).

The real deal with the MKULTRA was based around other things, music is very much a very limited art form and the feelings it generates normally are very subjective.

Even then, the reasons women like them isn't MKULTRA related, is just teenage hormones and wanting to fuck them, this happens with idols and porn in general, this increases because the material is given on extreme doses on all their media, even more because woman normally hide most of the physical part (they are more emotional, but the body still matters, men are normally like that too, but we have more enticing material to work with), if wanting to fuck is part of a brainwashing scheme, then it is a very underdeveloped system.

sounds just like what a glowie will want us to think

 

[LKjfiert]

i don't own many physical books but most of the ones i do own i bought second hand for very cheap and in pretty decent condition. I think most cities have their spots for trading and reselling used books, those are always a good option if all you care is reading rather than just collecting rare editions.


sounds just like what a glowie will want us to think

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glowies already have movies, they don't need music.

 

[Saxxon]

Holy shit, dudes.

It's a Disney subdivision.

Frank Miller's Soy City consooming coming soon to Disney+

 

[Zbk3VmLfujjzjxBd43tL]

I am not very well versed with kpop but i read somewhere that is suposed to be very heavily linked to the SK government as a prtected industry. Maybe it is a psy ops after all.

This is true. The South Korean government vigorously promotes and spreads K-pop (and also K-Drama) everywhere as part of its soft-power scheme. This is why there's a huge backlash in Japan (although it's popular there too), many K-pop idols are banned in China (for being too feminine/sexual), and listening to K-pop or watching K-drama gets you the death sentence in North Korea. Some say K-pop is associated with even more nefarious forces to spread degenerate Western cultural elements since K-pop appears to bridge the gap from more "Asian" sort of pop music from Japan, Taiwan, or China to US pop music. This is why the K-pop stans on Twitter are all associated with spamming leftist establishment politics.

 

[ten dollars off]

listening to K-pop or watching K-drama gets you the death sentence in North Korea.

Problem?

 

[b0x]

PL: I know someone who is too much into Kpop, well a specific band at the very least.

Kpop is another consumerist culture all it's own. For example, if you are a big fan and want to get the invite to the exclusive fanmeets to hold hands with the idols. You need to buy somewhere around 50 of the idol(s) albums. Because theres a chance that one of them may have an invite for the fanmeet inside. Also, at the fanmeet, sometimes there will be exclusive merch to buy.





On top of this, inside each album will be a photocard, so you also have to buy multiple albums to get the whole set.



Then if you end up buying a ticket to a concert, there are certain exclusive items only available for sale at the merch shop at the concerts.



You also have the official lightstick of each group or soloist to shake in the air at concerts to show your support.




Finally you have the corporate approved fanchant to shout at stages or concerts, recorded by the group so you know what to shout.

Thats just the official stuff. Fans have been known to pay for all sorts of information just to get closer to their idols. There are information brokers that deal in stuff like candid photos, schedules, bookings, Flight Manifests, mobile phone numbers, email addresses, family addresses etc

You can even pay money to ensure your idol gets the most votes on music shows in Korea.


Oh I almost forgot, the cross promotion. In SK, Idols endorse everything. School Uniforms. Fashion. Food. Drinks. When they are old enough, alcohol, lingerie etc etc.

They even create music videos exclusively for the bigger deals.

 

[ten dollars off]

I'd be a lot more forgiving of all that consumption and obsessiveness if the artists were, say, influential legacy acts with a long, rich history and who pioneered genre innovation and musical techniques over a ten album discography.

But when they are basically teenagers grown in vats by corporations, then forced on the public through sheer brute force marketing, it's just depressing.

 

[verissimus]

That one was the one around Disneyland. They're dropping this abomination as a stand-alone subdivision in the Coachella Valley.
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How does Disney even have money for this? Aren't they in debt?

 

[LillWeeb]

Super Bowl parties are a huge thing and if you aren't into football the commercials are a welcome reprieve since it at least gives you something to watch and talk about, that's really the main appeal of them.

I didn't know people caring about super bowl commercials is still being a thing. I remember them being more of a 2000's thing especially around 2006 As a kids back then people use to quote or talk about them for days afterward. ( i think we all remember the old godaddy.com commercials as an example.) I thought all that died out about 2013ish.

 

[NoReturn]

I am not very well versed with kpop but i read somewhere that is suposed to be very heavily linked to the SK government as a prtected industry.

Aside from this. The reason Kpop is so protected is because it generates a lot of money (this is done with food industries in the US) and because they are used as gigolos (man prostitutes).

This is true. The South Korean government vigorously promotes and spreads K-pop (and also K-Drama) everywhere as part of its soft-power scheme.

There's an old conspiracy theory that claims the CIA was behind part of the counter culture in America

>conspiracy theory

maybe is a version of that and some MK ultra type programing going on with those shitty boybands.

Even then, the reasons women like them isn't MKULTRA related, is just teenage hormones and wanting to fuck them, this happens with idols and porn in general, this increases because the material is given on extreme doses on all their media, even more because woman normally hide most of the physical part (they are more emotional, but the body still matters, men are normally like that too, but we have more enticing material to work with), if wanting to fuck is part of a brainwashing scheme, then it is a very underdeveloped system.

No, Celebration, FL. It was/is awful.

Tell us more.

 

[Gay Mouth]

How does Disney even have money for this? Aren't they in debt?

Subdivisions are a nearly failproof money machine. It's a gamble like any venture, sure. Buy a large plot of cheap land, draw a plan to maximize appeal while minimizing space (large 3-5 bed homes, that have a very small yard and practically a small alley between them) split the parcel up into pieces as small as possible, build cheaply and plant fresh landscaping. All of a sudden your $125,000 acreage is 200 parcels, each worth $125k for the land alone, and $400k-$1M with the house in mind. All you have to do is convince people to buy your houses made of ticky-tacky and move in. If you sell too cheap, it gets filled up with people buying their first home out of the ghetto and quickly falls into ruin. Or you can establish a Home Owner's association to keep the neighborhood uniform. If you sell high, you get those upper middle class houses with swimming pools where Italian real estate agents and chiropractors move in, generally improving the house with decoration and landscaping. But either way, you still made some money. It can only really fail if you colossally fuck up, like building where there's absolutely no demand, building ugly houses, or speculatively building during a housing market collapse. If Disney is hurting for cash they might as well shit out another planned community.

 

[Yaks]

Tell us more.

So, for those not in the know, Celebration, FL was a community designed by Disney and isnt very far from the parks, built in 1995. The town itself was held to probably the most intense HOA type standards you can image, being it's Disney. It was peddled in advertisements as "The America you Remember", white picket fences, no signs of poverty, the perfect 50s family sitcom town. This is how they sold it to the whales, some of whom would buy several houses over the years in Celebration and just keep moving between them, while also working in the parks.

They had a school system, which didn't have homework, grades, or books, and was hemorrhaging students. It had huge segregation problems I'm told as well. Most of the businesses died during the recession and Disney sold the quaint business district to another company even before the recession hit because they didnt want to take care of it anymore.

The condos were never actually maintained pretty much after 2000 (You know, the 5 year mark where some minor things always start needing a little TLC) to the point some residents had to leave because the leak they'd been reporting for 5+ years finally made their condo uninhabitable. With the specifics of the condo's law, residents could not fix their property themselves and had to go with the Town Center Foundation for major repairs. They rarely, if ever, responded to repair requests. Despite taking in roughtly $25,000 each month total from condo residents specifically for maintenance, when the time came in 2016 (yes that long) to do repairs, the money was nowhere to be seen. They informed the residents they accumulatively owed over 4-million dollars in repairs, or around $90k each.

Since 2019 the residents have been in a legal battle with the new management, which they initially won, but the owners disputed the decision and afaik it's still ongoing.

TLDR: Disney built the same exact thing and abandoned it after 5 years, leaving residents with cheaply built homes that are currently falling apart and they can't do anything about it.

So, these are just Celebration, FL 2.0 minus the school district.

 

[LKjfiert]

>conspiracy theory

Tell us more.

Modern art was the man related, but things like beefheart or zappa weren't, unlike the nihilistic, uninteresting and controlled behaviors, these musicians were related to meaning, defined art and great modification of old tradition, they were things which related to a complete way related to your effort and will, obviously they were some things in the hippie scene which were converted into awful shit, but the OG were always honest in their ideals, even more when they denounced the problems of general goverments.

Another thing we need to understand is that not all abstract art was the man related, even more when in 1966 it stopped.

The difference between real abstract art and the the man one is that the the man one is normally extremely sharp, reflexive of death or abuse, in comparison, even in the abstract age of beefheart after his more defined works (albums and figures), beefheart has the reflection of life, weirdness with a real purpose and an endearing reflection of his person.

Look at these two paintings, Beefheart has a extremely sharp, even childish instinct, but unlike things like pollock, beefheart has direct themes and reflects on the weirdness of the animal (by being a shiny beast coming from a river and a woman who was watching the beast).

Now look at pollock, it doesn't show nothing except an schizo retold of weirdness, it isn't ugly, but it is very destructive in comparison of the more focused nature of beefheart, non meaning isn't wrong, but it normally means that the art is trying too hard, which is the main problem and a way to detect the difference between real abstract art and the man one

 

[NoReturn]

TLDR: Disney built the same exact thing and abandoned it after 5 years, leaving residents with cheaply built homes that are currently falling apart and they can't do anything about it.

So, these are just Celebration, FL 2.0 minus the school district.

Looks like they're going to skip the 5 years and start with 3rd-party management from day 1. Check this out:

I found it at the bottom of their website.

Look at these two paintings, Beefheart has a extremely sharp, even childish instinct, but unlike things like pollock, beefheart has direct themes and reflects on the weirdness of the animal (by being a shiny beast coming to a river and a person watching it).

The Beefheart one reminds me of some graffiti I saw once. It was petroglyph-style and depicted a group of people with their arms raised walking toward a wifi signal and falling off a cliff into some water. (Yes, I know, very "I am 12 and this is deep." but it was so well-executed I couldn't hate it.)
It was kind of like the pictures below, but I've never been able to find it again because if you google "cave painting graffiti" or "petroglyph graffiti" most of the results are just vandalism.

 

[Yaks]

Looks like they're going to skip the 5 years and start with 3rd-party management from day 1. Check this out:
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I found it at the bottom of their website.

Smart on their part. I'm curious how long it'll last before it falls into disrepair too. I don't even feel bad for the people going to buy in. If you're gonna invest in home ownership, probably don't do it through a megacorporation that has a long history of building things then letting them fall apart soon after.